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2001/9/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22604 Activity:insanely high |
9/23 Hey vthanh, kill your damn job! \_ Poll (yes I realize 1 vote of politburo weighs more than 99 votes) sqish: .. \_ After viewing vthanh resume, I switch from no squish \_ doesn't squishing depend on twink points or something that tom used to keep track of? This seems like a an offense that should recieve a *strong* warning not a squish. \_ After viewing vthanhs' resume, I switch from no squish to squish: he's not nor ever has been a student at cal. no squish: (99). \_ mr. vthanh. the fucking pc you use to log on to soda probably has more cpu power than soda. use IT for your stupid prime numberiser. \_ so i see, this machine should primarily be used for writing to a world writeable file. Why again do we need a 800 Mhz athlon for that? \_ his bc job is using up most of the cpu and makes interactive stuff on soda very slow. soda does plenty of other things besides letting people edit the motd, you fuck. \_ soda is also the mail server. it handles lots of mail. i guess it takes 800 Mhz to handle it all. \_ don't forget its also the web server. it also takes some amount of cpu power to support 100+ concurrent logins of people running all sorts of interactive programs. \_ what sort of interactive programs are those? \_ mostly tcsh, there are a lot of mudders on soda who telnet elsewhere too. oh, and wall takes a lot of cpu. \_ yeah, it's really annoying how people try to do math or do something that makes this machine compute. Damn it, i like an idle machine! - alum \_ emacs, pine, screen, irc, w3, w3m, lynx, etc \_ I think the point is, if it's for school-work, he should use a campus-machine; if it's for industry work, he should use a work machine, etc. \_ There is (and hopefully will be) no policy against using CSUA resources for schoolwork. If you have forgotten that the CSUA is a student organization meant to serve a university campus, you're hereby reminded of that. It is a different and orthogonal issue that Mr. Nguyen may not have chosen the best venue for running his job (even if it should turn out that it was being done for academic purposes), and should have consulted rootstaff beforehand to get pointed at a more appropriate CSUA resource to use for this task. -alexf \_ check out vthanh's resume, he's not a student at berkeley: M.S. Applied Mathematics, CSU Hayward, March 2002 B.S. Computer Science & B.S. Mathematics, CSU Hayward, June 1998 \_ ok fine this is a gray area, maybe he is hosing soda for classwork for grad school in hayward. he still shouldn't hose soda for his giant bc is my driver's license prime? jobs, he should use a different machine, one other than the one 99.9999 percent of the CSUA uses, it's rude and inconsiderate. \_exscuse me ignorance but doesn't the ticketing system only alot mr nguyen only a certain amount of processing cycles per second to prevent any one user from hogging the CPU? \_ that's a previous version of soda, this is no longer the case \_ can we make it the case again? \_ The lottery scheduling system wouldn't make a difference for someone running only one process. If he was running 5 jobs in parallel it would make a difference. -tom \_ what's he doing in a Berkeley student organization if he was never a Berkeley student? \_ Yeah, how did he get an account. I remember need my CAL student id to get an account. - yet another alum \_ From /csua/adm/doc/policies/processes: As a courtesy to others, do not run programs that take up too much CPU power for too long. Background processes belonging to users who are not logged on will be killed if they are taking inordinate amounts of processor time. Am I the only one who remembers any of the CSUA's policies? -geordan \_ I'm guessing that the vast majority of csua'ers know the policies and try not to break them. \_ Why would his process eating up all the leftover CPU cycles be a problem to others when he's running it with nice 20? I think the real problem is that his process has a big working set. Last I checked, RSS=24M and VSZ=73M. (BTW, I don't think non-Cal-students/alumni should be given soda accounts. Maybe he was once a student and then got kicked out and ended up in CSUH. -- yuen \_ nice 20 doesn't work like people think it does. |
2001/9/23 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22597 Activity:high |
9/20 Berkeley, as seen from New York: http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/2610.htm \_ Very intellectual, balanced, and thoughtful. Have a look at this week's Economist for some surprisingly reasonable articles. -John \_ wow, this is SO much like watchmen. I mean, was the NY Post what they based the "New Frontiersman" on? Anyone else draw parallels to the recent events to the end of watchmen? \_ what-evah. there are idiots everywhere. if some of berkeley's idiots fall on the extreme opposite end of the political spectrum from the idiots in most other areas, then so be it. \_ I believe idiots in Cornell or Yale has banned students from hanging flags from their dorm rooms. <insert ivory towers comment here> Sometimes I feel ASHAMED of graduating from Berkeley. I read the article and feel DISGUSTED about the crap that goes on in that silly place. Where are the patriots in Berkeley? Rise up and be heard! \_ I'm in New Haven now, and there are flags all over all the official Yale stuff, including the residential colleges where the undergrads all live. If there is a specific dorm room window ban, I'm sure it's some stupid fire hazard thing, not political. \_ All of it is accurate and correct. \_ [contentless ad hominem blather purged] \_ the whole thing was blown out of proportion. the nypost sucks ass anyway, did you read their little tirade blaming the bombing on the united nations? \_ What was blown out of proportion exactly? It's all true, accurate, correct, and precise. \_ Barbara Lee is not a Communist. Neither is Ron Dellums. Ron Dellums was chair of the House Armed Forces committe. -ausman \_ the world is collapsing, manhattan is about to generate a giant sinkhole and all of lower manhattan could fall into the hudson river, and they're concerned about bfd not putting flags on their trucks? I'm looking at the site and I see a column by John Gotti's daughter. Here's a great factual 100 percent correct column for you: http://www.nypost.com/commentary/32767.htm \_ I hate to break it to you, but the New York Post is the paper that New Yorkers who are too poor to subscribe to the New York Times read. It's a pretty sensationalistic, entertainment-first, news second kind of paper. \_ It has nothing to do with wealth. The Post is _the_ paper for New Yorkers. It's the local paper in the same way The San Francisco Comical is the bay area paper. Anyway, yes the paper is trash but the article is still 100% correct regarding Berkeley. Go ahead, correct something in the article and let us know where they went wrong. \_ The NY Post is like a real newspaper in the same way Hard Copy is like real news. \_ No, it's exactly like the SF Chron. Anyway, no one has yet said exactly what is inaccurate in the article. \_ "They would be rotting in jail for their political heresies, tortured with cattle prods. Or buried up to their necks in sand and stoned to death." - THis is the concluding thought, which to me, seems almost to say he wishes this is what happened to us "Berkeleyites".. We should demand an apology.... im not even sure though if the paper is worth asking an apology from... \_ "...which to me, seems almost to say he wishes this is what happened to us..." is a matter of your opinion and feeling. The fact remains that what he said is true. You'd be killed or permanently in jail in many countries for the same behavior. You live in the freest nation on the planet. Enjoy it, but don't piss on it. You've got no where better to go. \_ If this article is correct, then I think people in Berkeley are being idiots. However, I suspect that the writer is biased and more interested in insulting Berkeley and liberals in general than providing a reasonable opinion. For example, the writer refers to Rep. Lee voting against the resolution supporting the use of force. I saw a clip of Lee's speech on TV, and she wasn't arguing that we shouldn't use force. Instead, she was saying that we shouldn't act hastily in the heat of the moment and do something we might later regret (e.g. kill lots of innocent people). \_ Opinions are just that: opinion. There's no such thing as a reasonable or unreasonable opinion. Why is it so hard for some people to separate fact from opinion? I read Lee's comments about her vote right after her vote and "not act too hasty" was not her agenda. "Not act" was her agenda. |
2001/9/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:36309 Activity:nil |
9/17 Politburo, is that you? Hail motd censor king. |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:36300 Activity:nil |
9/14 to speak to the politburo fiat, were people inciting to riot or some such? the wonderful thing about world writable files is ... wait for it... you can DELETE as well as add... Unless the motd was being used to coordinate concerted attacks against the local mosque, get over your power trip, politburo, and return the motd to the people. --scotsman \_ Well, according to the info down below, it seems like the motd was fairly normal (and downright tame compared to last nov.) \_ yeah, FUCK politburo censoring. Let's vote politburo members off the island |
2001/9/15-16 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22473 Activity:low |
9/14 bombing afghanistan would solve nothing since they're already living in rubble: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/14/afghanistan/index.html oh and politburo: fuck you! |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22461 Activity:nil 62%like:36298 |
9/14 I'd like to make the following points: (1) If you haven't read wall.log yet (or don't know how to), at least one CSUA member had indicated to the Politburo that they felt threatened and scared by the racist comments in the MOTD. (2) The Politburo did not make this fact clear to the membership, that it was a basis for the closing of the MOTD. Instead, it is described as "anti-arab sentiment offending many members" in /csua/pub/minutes/F2001/0913.politburo. (no offense intended to the CSUA Secretary) You're all human beings. I'll let you figure out who was right and who was wrong here. You can then return to what you were doing, instead of feeling incredulous, righteous, wronged -- whatever. \_ I read wall.log and at least two of the comments have been clearly misinterpreted. They were ment to illustrate just how stupid a particular line of reasoning was. |
2001/8/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22284 Activity:nil |
8/28 How long do we get to keep our CSUA account? Will we get a warning if it is about to be closed? I have graduated but it is my connection to UCB. Thanks. \_ have you ever read the motd before? have you noticed alot of people here are in their thirties? \_ You know, I _have_ noticed that there are motd posts by people in their 30's... good thing everyone signs their YoB. --1976 \_ you can get an alumni.eecs account. \_ I can? How? \_ You keep your CSUA account until you get squished. Even after you die! \_ So don't do/SAY anything stupid! |
2001/8/19 [Computer/SW/Unix, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22174 Activity:nil |
8/19 [ Censoring trolls are the worst. -- stupid troll deletion daemon ] |
2001/8/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22127 Activity:very high |
8/15 how does one officially quit the csua? \_ You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. \_ you can mildly offend any officer and that'll get rid of you. But dont try censoring the MOTD, that'll never get you squished. \_ it'll get you squished if you're not on the politburo. if you're paolo, it won't. -tom \_ I am using my first amendment right to disagree with tom. \_ And I am using my second amendment rights to shoot you in the head. Nothing personal. \_ not to mention censor my posts, eh paolo? What an idiot. -tom \_ i don't believe there is a formal quit policy. You can probably just ask the pburo to rm your directory. - paolo (who actually tries to answer the question without libeling others) \_ I am expressing my first amendment right to disagree with tom. |
2001/8/15-16 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22123 Activity:high |
8/14 http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=5834 "Police Search Massage Parlor in Connection With Prostitution" So much for the local bordello. \_ only in berkeley would people be stupid enough to go to a place like that expecting a massage and "be shocked to find that massage was not the primary service offered." \_ That place has been in business for at least 10 years, when I first heard about it from a female-friend and probably before then. I think that's the place that always has the windows covered. \_ Established 1973 \_ I had a good time there, that's one of the few things I'm going miss about Berkeley. \_ Like always, it'll be back. Just waiting for the heat to die down Come and visit later \_ not if those punks at http://adjectivity.com rent out the space from under them! Seems like every time a house of ill repute goes down, adjectivity is there in it's place. \_ Can you elaborate on your experience there? \_ search google for "golden gypsy", find an interesting story. \_ You could close down Kip's, Or the Golden Bear, And nobody would care, But the heart and soul Of Berkeley's in Our Maison Derriere! \_ To shut it down now would be twisted, We just heard this place existed! \_ oh, you mean the White Horse? |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22006 Activity:nil |
8/4 motd nuked and partially restored... bitch. |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21999 Activity:high |
8/3 paolo, why did you lie to the CSUA and the politburo about your policy violations? -tom \_ Tom, what the fuck is your problem. What part of motd != politburo don't you understand. Are you even a student? \_ I have sent a complaint to the politburo already, and they have ignored it. Hence the public complaint. -tom the politburo's domain of responsibility. Tom is alleging that paolo used/uses a script to auto-munge the motd. I'm not - student, !paolo \_ Son, auto-munging of the motd is a squishable offense. That is the politburo's domain of responsibility. Tom is alleging that paolo used/uses a script to auto-munge the motd. I'm not sure I can explain any more clearly than that. -!tom \_ Daddy, how am I supposed to know that from Tom's post at the beginning of this thread? And, how does posting to the motd about the matter inform politburo? All it serves to do is rile the soda public, most of whom don't attend politburo meetings, and, even if they did, will NEVER be eligible for politburo again in this lifetime. Oh, and, by the by, are you a student? - 1st respondent \_ I had more details in the MOTD, but paolo keeps deleting them. What possible bearing does my student status have on the matter? -tom \_ i dont see why you can't answer his question --motd \_ We will be discussing paolo's conduct at the first CSUA General Meeting after the semester begins. \_ What part of "Tom wants to have an _open_ discussion" do you not understand. In this case, whether Tom is a student or not is irrelevant to whether or not Paolo is doing anything. |
2001/7/24-25 [Academia/StanfUrd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21931 Activity:high 66%like:21942 |
7/24 Do you date more in college? Or after college? \_ Yer mom is always available \_ Definitely after college. \_ In college. \_ After. \_ During. \_ In college. \_ In college. \_ Before. \_ You will never find as many young women ready, willing, and able as in college. Get it while you can. --dim \_ does that include stanford women? there is a stereotype they are too studious to date. \_ Too ugly to care. See Clinton, Chelsea. --dim \_ Even those in biz school? \_ Get out from behind your computer screen more often, d00d. \_ In college. \_ Definitely after. Never had the time in school. |
2001/6/18 [Computer, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21561 Activity:nil |
6/18 Henceforth, any discussion not related to Computer Science will be censored. The University does not pay you to discuss politics, religion, girls, or any of that superfluous stuff. Get back to work. -The Imperial Censor \_ [Threat to Imperial Censor censored] |
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2001/6/8-9 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21461 Activity:very high |
6/8 "Judge orders 19-year-old guy: No more sex" link:www.bayarea.com/c/breaking/docs/053992.htm \_ I just had sex last night, but didnt come. That guy should learn some control. \_ you are obviously a girl though. \_ girls are on soda? \_ This response does get old after awhile, y'know. \_ L1NUX. R1D3 B1KE. H07 AZN CHX. ED is the STANDARD. get used to it. \_ I have never met any of these girls that are yer not missing out _/ supposed to have accounts on soda. I suspect that the accounts were create by root in the days before psb in order to keep the poor geeks hopeful. The motd posts signed by women are obviously forgeries. \_ You need to get out more. There have been many confirmed sightings of soda females at past general meetings or in the distant history when the volleyball court was regularly used. \_ Confirmed by who? The politburo? Root? Can we really trust these sources? Since most sodans have never seen these so called "girls", it is safe to assume that they are a figment of a distrubed mind. mind. And if these "girls" exist, how come we never get a chance to date them? What is the point of allowing "girls" to use soda if these "girls" can't be put to good use helping poor geeks. \_ I am not a girl or woman. \_ then you didn't really "have sex". --bill \_ she's a man, baby! \_ You know what sucks more than not being able to have sex? Not being able to think about sex without doing it intentionally. \_ what the hell does this mean? \_ Guess he can join the wankers club, just like the average sodan. |
2001/5/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21363 Activity:nil 66%like:21361 |
5/25 [post on censorship censored] |
2001/5/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21361 Activity:nil 66%like:21363 |
5/25 [censorship discussion censored] |
2001/5/23-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21332 Activity:insanely high |
05/23 http://www.academia.org/topten2001.html \_ ACADEMIA IS AN EVIL COMMIE LIBERAL THING! FUCK ACADEMIA! \_ what a backwards and frighteneing organization \_ You and people like you make me ashamed to be affiliated with Berkeley. \_ Uh? Did you *read* the top ten list? You're just trolling, right? You think firing people because they mock the PC agenda in academia and in the arts is what made this country great? Even as a troll you're pretty scary. great? Or the kid they had sent to the psych ward for being Christian? Or walking around Berkeley nude is a reasonable part of a state sponsored education? Book burning in Berkeley? Madness.... true madness. \_ You have made up your mind that this prof. was fired for not being PC solely on the basis of a paragraph in this posting this link. And why do anti-left posts censored on the motd? Just let the discussion happen... one article? \_ You're right. It's all a lie. Thanks for keeping me informed with alternative information sources. None of it happened. It's just the VRWC. informed with alternative information sources. None of it happened. It's just the VRWC. informed with alternative information sources. None of it happened. It's just the VRWC. \_ That's what I'm saying. - Sen. H Clinton \_ That's hardly what I said. Why are you so offended \_ *LAUGH* There's no evidence because it gets censored! by someone requiring corroboration for an intreperation of events? \_ Offended? Only the left gets "offended". I object to you choosing 1 thing of 10 posted and making it as if that was the only thing said. Go do your own google search to disprove it. No one has a responsibility to do your counter research for you. \_ What exactly are you trying to accomplish by posting this link and the two below? Are you trying to show us that some people associated with the broad group that is the left engage in idiotic behavior sometimes? If so, we're all well aware of this, thanks. I think you'll be hard pressed to find a group with more than 10 people for which this isn't true. Are you trying to convince us that we should join the X-tian right? I don't think posting links to the motd is the path to success there. \_ more to the point is WHY you are so offended by someone posting this link. And why do anti-left posts get censored on the motd? Its good that the bad side of the left be exposed, just like the right gets hammered all the time, Just let the discussion happen... \_ I'm not offended, I just want to know what your goal is. Though I don't see evidence of the censorship you are talking about... \_ *LAUGH* There's no evidence because it gets ______ed! Must such an obvious concept be spelled out? Were you just trolling? Ow, my sides hurt from laughing. I love the motd. \_ My stuff gets "censored" all the time. Please look up the word "censor" and try again. Truth is fiction. War is peace. Welcome to the Brave New World. -ausman \_ Ok. Here it is from http://dictionary.com: v. tr. cen7sored, cen7sor7ing, cen7sors. To examine and expurgate. I don't think censor means what you think it means. \_ censor: 1.A person authorized to examine books, films, or other material and to remove or supress what is considered morally, politically, or otherwise objectionable. 2.An official, as in the armed forces, who examines personal mail and official dispatches to remove remove information considered secret or a risk to security. 3.One that condemns or censures. 4.One of two officials in ancient Rome responsible for taking the public census and supervising public behavior and morals. 5.Psychology. The agent in the unconscious that is responsible for censorship. The only definition that makes any sense at all with your problem is number 5, and I don't think you are either clever or self-aware enough to be referring to it. Please speak English, not NewSpeak. -ausman \_ hey dude, you looked up the wrong entry. you want the definition of censor the VERB. the other guy had it right. \_ It's only ausman. What did you expect? Like I said, it doesn't mean what he thinks it means. \_ Uh, dude -- we are discussing a URL you posted right now. And this is not the first time in the last several weeks that there has been a lengthy discussion about an article from a conservative news source. \_ Yes. Some sneak by. Most get deleted within a few minutes. The more solid the info in the URL, the more likely it is to get chopped. But you knew that. \_ A lot of students go to Cal for the Liberal/Radical rep, get bummed out when they meet actual radicals and reactionaries, and leave as NIMBY moderates. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose. \_ I came to Cal at 17 as a blank slate. Never thought anything about politics of any sort before college. I was inundated with PC-ism and left Cal as a conservative because what they said made more sense than the book burners and hypocrites on the left. \_ Now see here, this is a pity: if you'd gone to BYU, you'd be batting for the other side! \_ The truth is the truth. I didn't come away from Cal as a bible thumping social conservative. I came away from Cal thinking the entire PC agenda was a crock of shit. Had I attended BYU, the illogic of the left would remain the same. \_ Liberals *know* that they are correct, from thier point of view, censoring a non-liberal statement is the act of making sure that incorrect information is not spread around. After all, what would the world come to if people didn't all agree on the liberal point of view? |
2001/5/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21273 Activity:nil |
5/13 "troll" \_ "meta-troll" \_ I never metadata I didn't like \_ I demand an apology for this... \_ "yermom" \_ i'm sorry... \_ Has it come to this? |
2001/5/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21216 Activity:nil |
5/8 Motd nuked. \_ And there goes my erection. \_ aw, poor baby's stupidity tolerance exceeded? \_ shaddup nweaver |
2001/4/9 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20921 Activity:nil |
4/9 Hello fellow assholes! -Corntrollio \_ So this is what trolls have become? I like a good troll as much as the next guy but you have to at least *try*. Go back to troll 1A. |
2001/3/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20800 Activity:moderate |
3/15 Poetry for the People invites you to attend a night of poetry and protest this Thursday at the I-HOUSE, 2299 Piedmont Avenue, Chevron Auditorium (reception is at 6pm on the 2nd floor) The reading featuring poet/playwright Ntozake Shange at 7pm. Admission is 2 books, to help raise books for Berkeley High School's library, which has been closed for a year now. \_ Uh, who the fuck are you and why are you not addressing the spam that you have sent to csua@csua properly? \_ He is Paolo, boy wonder. \_ no fool, _I_ am paolo - batman. Remember, i sign my posts. why don't you sign your posts? \_ Nah-nah nah-nah nah-nah nah-nah. Batman! \_ I mean Leader! \_ you have 1 hour to sign this or it gets purged |
2001/2/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20691 Activity:nil 50%like:20675 |
2/23 Large, somewhat worn but reasonably nice couch, available for the troll pick-up (near Piedmont Ave., Oakland). troll http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~tom/couch1.jpg. Mail tom. troll \_ thank goodness you're getting a new one -- that one's pretty ugly! troll \_ it has a certain something... not a good certain something, troll but something. It shows a certain kind of... taste. troll \_ the kind known as "bad"? troll \_ I bought it for $50 from my roommate who was troll leaving town, 8 years ago. It is not troll particularly a reflection of my taste. And I troll challenge you to find a better couch for free. -tom |
2001/2/25 [Computer/SW/Unix, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20690 Activity:nil |
2/24 Is there a good reason why UNIX prohibits normal users from troll making NFS mounts? troll \_ Well, it's not as good as prohibiting ANYONE from making an troll NFS mount, but you have got to let SOMEONE do whatever they want on troll a system, NFS mounts, after all, aren't ALWAYS the wrong solution. troll (just usually). troll \_ Solaris automounter allows any user to mount a filesystem from troll remote host as long as it is exported to you. So there is a way troll to do this on unix. troll \_ automounter bad. very bad. evil. spawn of the devil. troll only bill's network neighborhood is worse. troll if you need automounter functionality use AFS (its free troll now). AFS good. troll \_ you don't do it, the autofs system does it for you. you troll as a normal user just make requests to autofs. you can not, troll as a normal user with normal user permissions, ask autofs troll to mount a NFS export on any arbitrary mount point, only troll on those mount points that autofs is configured to manage -- troll say /net, /home, /project, and you can not tell autofs, as troll a normal user, what mount options to use --jon troll \_ That's what I mean jon. Being able to mount things under troll /net is still much better than not being able to mount troll anything at all. troll \_ If you could mount any filesystem you want, anywhere you want, troll then you could do something like mount your own filesystem on troll /etc containing a passwd file in which you know the root passwd troll and give yourself root. (This is just one of many possibilities.) troll \_ First of all, both /etc and /etc/passwd already exist and troll they're both owned by root on that machine. You can't troll overwrite them. Second of all, if there were to be such troll thing as user-controlled NFS you shouldn't have any more troll permissions than you normally would. In other words, if I troll don't have permission to create a new file or directory in troll / I shouldn't have the permission to mount a drive at that troll location. troll \_ But I could remotely mount your home directory on my troll machine where I have root and su to the same uid/gid you troll have on the remote host and then fuck with your files troll over nfs as "you". Depending on how the mount points troll are exported, I could do the same to root owned files troll as well, such as /usr, /var, and others. Got the picture? troll \_ We're talking about user controlled NFS clients, not troll servers. As an NFS server, I, as root, would never troll let you mount my disk so that you can fuck around troll with it unless you had a legit reason in which case troll I would have created a little restricted sandbox troll directory for you to muck around with. But I think troll it would be a useful idea (and relatively safe) to troll have a SMB-like user-controlled mounting of remote troll filesystems. I have yet to see why this is unsafe. troll I have an account on CSUA called jondoe. On my troll Unix box at home I want to mount everything in troll ~jondoe at CSUA by supplying my jondoe username/ troll password pair and everything in ~jondoe is mounted troll on my home computer. CSUA will only let me access troll files in ~jondoe with the same permissions that troll jondoe himself would normally be able to access. troll \_ Yes. That's all well and good. Now explain what troll prevents me from setting up a jondoe account on _my_ troll home machine with _your_ uid/gui and mounting _your_ troll jondoe account. NFS has what sort of security to troll prevent this? None. Please explain why I couldn't troll do this. troll \_ First of all, even stock NFS controls what troll machines you export to. Obviously it would be troll silly to export csua home directories to the troll world with no restrictions, but if you trust troll a particular machine, this isn't a problem. troll And second, NFS does have the facility to troll use public-key authentication, though it's not troll often used around here. -tom troll \_ Because you have to have jondoe's password to do troll this. Think of it this way. jondoe logs into troll csua, and types some magical command called troll "nfsexport home-machine-ip" which exports HIS troll home directory to that IP. Or, he can run troll "nfsexport jondoe@csua", type in his CSUA troll password, and get access to his files. Yes, troll NFS has minimalistic security, but it doesn't troll have to be NFS, maybe another similar system. troll Now explain to me why this won't work, and why troll this system, which would seem very useful, troll isn't in place. troll \_ Yes! This is exactly what I mean. Why isn't this troll done? -original poster troll \_ Can you think about the potential problems? troll \_ jondoe is exporting. Different from mounting. troll What was your question again? troll \_ Switch to plan9. |
2001/2/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20689 Activity:nil |
2/24 Looking for a good tutorial for learning to program for the Palm. troll I'd prefer to be in a unix environment, but, whatever makes it troll easeies/most efficeint. pointers? troll \_ most people use MetroWerks CodeWarrior for Palm, so that'd be the troll most painless to use. (But it also costs money and is available for troll only Windows and MacOS.) For gcc, you'll need PRC-Tools troll ( http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/tools/gcc ). I found most troll tutorials to be long-winded and a waste of time (Palm's CodeWarrior troll tutorial is ~200 pages). I think the best way to learn would be to troll look at the sample code Palm provides and read the SDK companion and troll reference documents. You may find the Palm OS Programmer's FAQ troll useful ( http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/palm/faq ) --jameslin troll \_ Why would you want to program for palm? troll \_ because programming for WinCE is painful troll \_ Missing the point: why would you want to program for any troll the toyish hand held devices? troll \_ as opposed to which other hand held devices? -ali troll \_ Playstation, Xbox, etc. are all toys, too. Why would troll anyone want to program for them? |
2001/2/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20688 Activity:nil |
2/24 looking for a URL that references the fencing term that's pronounced troll too.shey. How is it spelled? What is it? troll \_ touche' troll \_ Or touché, in ISO Latin-1. It means "touched" in French. troll \_ note that most search engines don't index vowel diacritics troll separately, so searching for just "touche", without the accent, troll will get you what you need. -alexf troll \_ just like resume,huh? troll \_ Yeah, just like. Join this millenium. troll \_ millennium, even. |
2001/2/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20687 Activity:nil |
2/24 ok, so I'm thiknig of buying a new penis, since apparently troll honda decided that civic hatchbacks are not hip and sexy and troll discotinued them in '97. anyone got any bad/good experience? troll \_ You are buying a car?!? Oh the horror! Oh the humanity! troll Don't you care about our precious pale blue dot and its troll environment? If you buy a car, it will need gas. This is troll just the excuse that Dumbya Bush needs to install Oil Wells troll in Alaska and off the coast of California. troll Just because I lost is no reason to give up the fight! troll - Al Gore (Join Team Gore 2k4: The committee to retake troll the White House by Any Means Necessary) troll \_ Experience? No. But imagine what you'll look like when your troll little golf gets smacked by something 4 times bigger like a troll CSUAer on a bike with linux loaded laptop in hand.... troll \_ OSuX! OSuX! 1T'5 A11 A80U+ OSuX D00D! K3WL AKWUA & 5H1T! troll \_ 5UV! 5UV! 1T'5 A11 A80U+ 5UV D00D! GA5 GU55L3R & 5H1T! troll \_ R1D3 B1K3! RUN GN00/L1N5UX! D00D! - 3133T H@X0R troll \_ You probably be wanting one of these for your Golf: troll http://collegehumor.com/pictures/tailpipe.html troll |
2001/2/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20685 Activity:nil |
2/25 All motd trolls will now be marked with troll on the side. As troll such, all authors of trolls shall be subjected to horse troll whipping. troll \_ Uh whatever. A troll is in the eye of the beholder anyway. It's troll really the fault of the rest of you for encouraging it by responding troll or getting suckered into flame wars about it. troll \_ So why is the following a troll: troll "R1D3 B1K3! RUN GN00/L1N5UX! D00D! - 3133T H@X0R" troll While this one isn't a trool: troll 5UV! 5UV! 1T'5 A11 A80U+ 5UV D00D! GA5 GU55L3R & 5H1T! troll You have no standards. troll \_ Too much work. I only mark first and second level trolls. troll Plus, if a new thread comes under a troll it is automatically troll considered a troll. troll \_ If a thread is under a bridge, is it assumed to be a troll troll? |
2001/2/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20679 Activity:insanely high 64%like:20684 |
2/25 All motd trolls will now be marked with troll on the side. As such, all authors of trolls shall be subjected to horse whipping. troll \_ Uh whatever. A troll is in the eye of the beholder anyway. It's really the fault of the rest of you for encouraging it by responding or getting suckered into flame wars about it. \_ Uh whatever. A troll is in the eye of the beholder anyway. It's really the fault of the rest of you for encouraging it by responding or getting suckered into flame wars about it. \_ So why is the following a troll: "R1D3 B1K3! RUN GN00/L1N5UX! D00D! - 3133T H@X0R" While this one isn't a trool: 5UV! 5UV! 1T'5 A11 A80U+ 5UV D00D! GA5 GU55L3R & 5H1T! You have no standards. \_ Too much work. I only mark first and second level trolls. Plus, if a new thread comes under a troll it is automatically considered a troll. |
2001/2/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20659 Activity:kinda low |
2/22 Where do people buy acid in berkeley? \_ cloyne court. 2600 ridge rode. \_ Yeah, but who? (Not like I expect an actual name to show up on the motd) Just ask at the front door? \_ Yes. "Hi, I'm here to buy acid. Which room?" \_ does anyone on soda sell acid? \_ yes. just think about it, and read the aliases file. \_ Latimer Hall has lots of kinds of acid. \_ Also VLSB and LSA. Really strong acids too. You could probably get some free base to go along with your acid. (Pardon the puns). \_ Don't be stupid. \_ What the hell do you think those organic chemistry grad students are *really* doing? \_ Don't be stupid. \_ making speed. it was on the news a couple of years ago. responsible for 1/3 the meth supply of the state. Go Bears. \_ casa zimbabwe, look for it at http://www.usca.org ask for fliz or the house mgr. say you are looking for "a joyride". make sure they know it's acid, not e or special k that you want. get a pager number from the dealer he hooks you up with. \_ The USCA Coops Central Office. Ask anyone behind the counter. If they're out that day, they can direct you to the right coop house. |
2001/2/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20627 Activity:nil |
2/17 UC to consider dropping SAT I: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nyt/20010217/ts/head_of_u_of_california_seeks_to_end_sat_use_in_admissions_1.html [replaced by the anti-censor. stop censoring other people's post you fucking twit. first you say that urls will be purged unless they have a description. not only do i think that's stupid but this has a fucking description. we're not a facist society] |
2001/2/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20621 Activity:nil |
2/16 <DEAD>www.buyscraponline.com<DEAD> \_ [censor threat censored by anti-censor god] |
2001/2/14-15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Politics, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20594 Activity:high |
2/14 Lonely on 2/14? Call your mom. Get her something nice. \_ I already got yermom something nice. Why didn't you? You're a customer. \_ What if your mom is dead? -welch \_ of the 200+ sorried users, is this one's mother dead? \_ sigh. too many newbies. \_ #f. i've been around for years, this one must've escaped me. i feel so left out! |
2001/2/7-8 [Computer/SW/Unix, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20528 Activity:high |
2/7 Something wrong with csua ssh connection? \_ yes, the version just installed is known to be broken, and root is ignoring complaints about it. -tom \_ I think root is just ignoring you. \_ OpenSSH works fine for me. \_ maybe root has a tom-filter... \_ ipchains -A input -s tom -d politburo -j REJECT \_ if tom was cool and 31337 he could get thru since ipchains doesn't have state. \_ Too bad LinSUX doesn't have ipf/ipnat like REAL OSes! \_ At some point, when 2.4 is stable, we'll use iptables. \_ 2.4 is stable. 2.4.1 is out. iptables >> ipchains Use it: iptables -A INPUT -s top -d politburo -j DROP really is more accurate, as he was ignored, not told to shutup and go away. \_ Are all these people truly so moronic that they do not realize that soda is running FreeBSD? \_ enjoy it while it lasts, monkey boy. - Penguin Construction, you got boxes, we pave 'em. \_ Uh? It's a shell. It runs commands. As a non-admin user why do you give a flying rat's ass what the underlying kernel is? \_ uh? tcsh and bash are shells. linux and freebsd are operating systems. \_ Welcome tasty penguin. - THE DAEMON \_ What soda is not a 31337 L1NUX B0X!?! I'm quiting the csua. - B1K3 R1D3R \_ lemonade.csua already is. \_ what the hell is "nlogin"? |
2001/2/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20509 Activity:high |
2/5 If you have an idea for a CSUA-sponsored talk, no matter how lame it sounds, and you want to do it, don't wonder if you should or not. Just go into the office and demand support. Get involved. It can't be any lamer than the silent MOTD readers. \_I have to disagree here, there are some topics which don't yield themselves to discussion at a CSUA-sponsored talk. I once brought up having a WAREZ club, so all the people in CSUA could trade software. The officers flipped and talked about how after we graduated we would realize how much money pirates were stealing from us (as programmers in the real world) blah, blah, blah... Point is, my "idea" was blown out of the water, so think twice before bringing up an idea, it could be lame in other people's eyes even if it's way too cool in yours. \_ oh my god! The rejection! Yeah, you're right; if there's any chance you'll be rejected you better NOT EVEN TRY YOU FUCKING WANKY LOSER. WHY DON'T YOU JUST CRAWL INTO A HOLE AND DIE! \_ for one thing, it's not pronounced "juarez" -tom \_ I fell off the edge again. \_ First of all the idea needs to be legal. duh? \_ warez? grow up. pr0n is where it's at. \_ Where can I get my CSUA-sponsored pr0n? |
2001/1/3 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20222 Activity:high |
1/2 I asked Santa to give me this mysterious sexy blue hat CSUA chick for X-Mas but I didn't get it. How do I get it? \_ URL? \_ http://www-server.bcc.ac.uk/~zcapl61/santa.html \_ is this work safe? \_ yes, text only. "I simply write about my thoughts. Whatever happens happens, I hope they'll find a good editor because most of it is crap." \_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Editor. \_ Is that the one with the fish? |
2000/12/25-27 [Reference/Celebration, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20170 Activity:high 57%like:20576 |
1/24 CSUA Poll: Best Christmas Movie of All Time: - National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation 3 - A Christmas Story 3 - Die Hard! 1 - Batman Returns - paolo 1 - JINGLE ALL THE WAY 1 - Nightmare Before Christmas 1 - Grinch (the real one, not the JimC shit) 1 \_ But which one is the standard? Life's meaning is obscured without. -ED user without this. -ED user \_ The Christmas Carol is the standard, but it's been done to death. (It's a Wonderful Life is up there too, and has also been redone so many times it's mind-numbing.) \_ Charlie Brown Xmas Special. W/ score by Vince Geraldi. the bending of the tree by hanging 1 ornament. Classic. - paolo \_ Faces of Death II. That always gets me in the right mood. -John |
2000/12/9-12 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20058 Activity:high |
12/8 Since when did the http://www.Berkeley.edu search engine switch to google? (man, those other ones sucked) \_ The previous (Cha-Cha) one was a SIMS research project \_ I guess Stanford schooled us, once again. \_ Is there a reason to use any other seach engine but Google? Hotbot used to be good. I guess I still use Yahoo, which now has Google backend. \_ Hotbot just used Inktomi anyway \_ I still use AltaVista \_ Heathen throwback. \_ Brewer deserves it for being a pompous ass. \_ who is Brewer? \_ Corporate Whore Supreme of the cs dept. multimillionaire who teaches 169 on occasion and is otherwise very hard to find on campus \_ Holy shit! You mean he used his considerable skills, talents, and experience to improve his lot in life? How truly offensive! I feel, no, I *demand* that he hold true to his academic background and work for free for the betterment of all! If not, I'm going to protest by never attending another CS class again! Down with money making Profs! Up with the people! Where's that bh vodka glasses into the fire quote when you need it? You, sir, are an idiot. \_ You, sir, are a whore. \_ maybe such a busy multimillionaire shouldn't be teaching a class or conducting research if he's so busy. if he really did want to charge the university hundreds of thousands, that seems rather crass, since his position and research at the university is \_ Have you ever met him? Jeez! directly responsible for his wealth \_ No shit, he should share some of that wealth with UC. Aren't they using that NOW technology? \_ is he still a multi-millionaire with the current stock market woes? \_ http://biz.yahoo.com/t/83/5566.html \_ the reason the Berkeley home page is not using hotbot/ inktomi is that Brewer demanded like a million bucks for it. \_ is this true? \_ I'm not surprised, the going rate for search engine contracts for company intranets is around that range, like $50 per seat. So for 20,000 students, that's $1million. Yes, Brewer's a fucker. \_ The berkeley home page should be using "grep". \_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Search engine. |
2000/11/13-14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19754 Activity:low |
11/13 <DEAD>url-without-comments-deleted.com<DEAD> \_ Uh ok. More lefty censorship. Next time I'll put a comment in pointing out that the URL demonstrates the obviously unfair and biased nature of the Florida theft by the Daley/Gore ticket. |
2000/11/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:19619 Activity:very high 70%like:18804 75%like:19042 50%like:19423 53%like:19625 52%like:19628 |
10/31 /dev/da0e 1270240 1166771 1850 100% /var/mail \_ Whee! \_ This is why soda should just forward email. \_ Top 10 "offenders": \_ this is less than 10 mb. how is that even offensive. \_ This comes up every fucking month. Why don't we get some more goddamn disk space? \_ Because it's stupid to buy more disk for old machine when new machine with much more disk is already being set up. \_ yes sir - #1 slave \_ Faster, you lazy bastard! The disk is still full! -rw-rw---- 1 jon mail 9958427 Oct 31 16:27 jon -rw------- 1 rajah csua 8740763 Oct 31 14:38 rajah -rw-rw---- 1 apl mail 7178201 Oct 31 16:04 apl -rw------- 1 elizp csua 4827154 Oct 31 16:29 elizp -rw-rw---- 1 deschan mail 4024243 Oct 31 10:24 deschan -rw-rw---- 1 mackn mail 3963281 Oct 31 00:25 mackn -rw-rw---- 1 tpc mail 3874439 Oct 31 16:46 tpc -rw------- 1 ginocide csua 3826808 Oct 31 13:35 ginocide -rw------- 1 randyc mail 3813542 Oct 31 15:56 randyc -rw------- 1 gsu mail 3804333 Oct 31 10:14 gsu \_ Why doesn't someone in the politburo start giving warning notices to the disk hosers, and if they don't reply/delete mail/whatever after a certain number of days, then take corrective action into your own hands. \_ Because they don't care and shouldn't have to? Ask the VP to make a new policy that spools get stored in homes. This should've been done years ago. Use the source, Luke. \_ why can't we just deliver mail to user home directories already. Puts it under user quota and distributes the mail more evenly across the system's disks. \_ Because that makes too much sense. People have been saying exactly what you just said for years. \_ That's asinine. A lot of users have only 8 megs, and besides, from a dumbass user's standpoint you don't want a core dump to prevent you from getting mail. Disk space is cheap. \_ dumbass users should limit coredumpsize 0 |
2000/10/31-11/1 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19612 Activity:high 61%like:19626 |
10/30 Are there any 24 hr oil change places in/around Berkeley? \_ It's called the San Francisco Bay. Stop driving already. \_ No. Berkeley's retail stores as a set can be considered as a vast outdoor mall which closes at 11:30, after which the mall security (Berkeley PD) come to beat up and generally harass any remaining shoppers and/or loiterers (homeless). Thank you for shopping Berkeley! \_ being pissed about berkeley's businesses closing early is fine, but do you really want a 24 oil change place in your neighborhood? I've never even seen one anywhere. \_ Fuck NIMBYism. \_ AROUND motherfucker, do you know what it means? \_ No. Now fuck off. |
2000/10/27-28 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19578 Activity:very high |
10/26 Ugh, got a closed book closed notes exam, but I can bring ONE sheet of double side notes. Does that mean I can bring any sheet, like a 20"X16" double sided sheet? I'm not trolling. \_ bring this: http://www.casting-couch.com/tour/0036-11/images/010.jpg \_ Actually, it means that you should go to crate and barrel and purchase a large roll of butcher paper and xerox the entire book onto it and then bring it with you. DUH! \_ Microfiche. \_ hand-written? Or can you type it up and use abbreviations and then use a Xerox machine to reduce it? That's what I did for my poli-sci class. They gave the 8 essay questions beforehand and said 5 of these will be on the exam and you get to choose any 3 of them to answer. But can bring one 8.5x11" piece of paper. I prepared all my answers before the exam and spent the entire exam just copying text into my bluebook. Filled up the entire bluebook plus the back inside cover. \_ but in reality, how many of you used those sheets? Maybe all you needed was the comfort in having that sheet, and the trouble not having to memorize a few number of formulas. \_ there's only one occasion when bringing that piece of crap actually helped me. on my two physics 7b midterms, it just so happened that the exact example of a refraction problem copied out of a schaum's outline was on the test, (except for the numbers of course), and on another, the I had the equation for some Hydrogen quantum bs equation on my cheat. it was awesome b/c I way above mean on both, beating out the nerds who usually kicked my ass on exams. unfortunately, i got totally fucked on my final, but the glory was fun while it lasted. nothing like a good ego boost during the dark physics 7 series days. you should always go for closed book since the effort to memorize stuff is minimal, prevents from getting totally trashed on an open-book which is supposed to be "easy." \_ Open book can be easier depending on the prof. Olander, in NE and Komvopolus (sp?), Pruitt in ME, Gronsky, tested, make it close book. This one or two pages only stuff Weber in MSE gave open book exams that were pretty easy. Their exams would have been next to impossible had they been closed book since there was always too much to memorize. ----ranga \_ I usually found that creating the "cheat" sheet helped me more than the actual cheat sheet. Though in some ME classes the formulas came in handy. ----ranga \_ These are my favorite exam rules. No having to book-flip to search for stuff, and no memorizing of stupid formulae. Just put down the key stuff in the class which let you figure anything else out and don't worry. --PeterM \_ The other one (which I personally like) is having created or extracted a good 1-2 page appendix (EG, the back inside cover of P&H for 61c), which is included with the exam. A little more work in some respects, but very useful for the students without the chaos of an open book test. -nweaver \_ This is my absolute LEAST favorite exam rules. Look, if you want to make a hard exam testing concepts, gimme open book/open notes and I'll bookmark pages, mark-up lecture notes, whatever. If you want to give an easier exam where some memorization is being tested, make it closed book. This one or two pages only stuff just turns the whole thing into some game where people try and cram as much onto one sheet as possible... and the prof thinks he can ask open-book-type questions because "you should have written that important fact down." Grrr... I hate them. \_ the other option which i liked better were the classes that gave everyone the same cheat sheet attached to the exam. why make people memorize a ton of equations and why be unfair about cheat sheets? everybody knows ahead of time what they'll be provided with and everybody has access to all the same info during the exam... \_ I agree. I refused to play the game and brought in 2 pages of notes with huge handwriting. When the TA gave me trouble, I told him to compare the number of bits on my two sheets with the number of bits on the cram sheet of the person in front of me with microscopic handwritting. The TA gave up eventually. \_ Actually I'd have walked up to you and said, "Which page do you want? You can only keep one." And if you kept going on your two page thing I'd just fail you. Seriously. Unless you seemed to have a genuine, non-renegade, non-protest reason for bringing in two pages. But anyways, this was just to balance your remarks. \_ Because I have a vision problem and you're discriminating against me and everyone like me. -!not the two sheet person \_ Anyone who *needs* to bring in a sheet with teeny-tiny little writing on it is screwed anyway. I handwrote all my cheatsheets in normal writing and usually had about half a side left. \_ i don't think most people really need them. it's just an OK but rather time-consuming way to study for an exam as you are writing the notes. keep in mind that cal professors in engineering are mostly looking for understanding, and not the amount of crap that you blindly memorized. \_ Depends on the department. Some profs. in MSE really were interesed in whether or not your could memorize stuff from the book. |
2000/10/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19529 Activity:high |
10/19 One might think that a CS group at Berkeley could come up with a more advanced system of discourse than editing, without locks, a shared text file. \_ wall y, bumfuck. \_ It works. Don't like it? Use that genius of yours to find a better solution while still maintaining optional anonymity. \_ Perhaps we can make it a pseudo-device, that allows only serialized access to the file. \_ oh please. CSUA != CS, CSUA != XCF, CSUA == sys admin \_ fuck off. that's so 20th century. \_ Anonymity is key, boy! As well as elegance! World-writable motd's are very elegant. \_ hi marco |
2000/10/20 [Academia/GradSchool, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19528 Activity:moderate |
10/19 I'm taking an SITN NDO class. Unlike Berkeley the professor actually responds to you promptly. Also you can talk to them like normal people and you don't have to wait in line for the stupid office hours, or get defered to an undergrad TA like Berkeley jerk professors do. You can say StanfUrd for all I care, but it is simply a better school -Cal graduate \_ it's a stanford class? man, i was over at stanford dropping stuff off to my stanford buddy, and damn, there were babes walking all over campus! mind you, mostly white chicks, a few asians here and there, but damn, they were cute!!! much better looking than an cal women. i was glad i got lost looking for his damn lab =) \_ I've taken 5 or 6 NDO classes towards a masters degree and I've found the profs. to be quite friendly. They are usually interested in what your are doing at work and mostly answer questions promptly. The TA's kinda suck though, but I guess thats to be expected from them since they are still pretty young (younger than me that is). - Cal graduate who is happy with the farm \_ I've had the same experience at Cal with any prof I actually went up to. Perhaps you were just too lazy to get off your ass. |
2000/10/6-7 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19423 Activity:very high 50%like:19619 |
10/5 3865 100% /var/mail \_ I sense much mail bouncing tomorrow morning __ \__/ .\/ tweet tweet / /\ beeeeeyatch \____/ | | /\ /\ \_ Will Mark vi have more mail space? \_ When it becomes an IMAP-only server, yes! Welcome to the New Way. \_ Soda ought not dictate the method of reading/storing mail. - old geezer who still uses mh \_ Biggest offenders: --rw-rw---- 1 jon mail 15399014 Oct 6 00:22 jon \_ 16075605 Oct 6 13:28 jon --rw-rw---- 1 jon mail 0 Oct 6 13:40 /var/mail/jon --rw------- 1 tse mail 7157578 Oct 6 00:54 tse --rw-rw---- 1 muchandr mail 5164239 Oct 5 22:53 muchandr --rw-rw---- 1 sky mail 4765757 Oct 5 23:35 sky --rw------- 1 gsu mail 4387733 Oct 5 19:53 gsu --rw------- 1 rbola mail 4337005 Oct 5 21:42 rbola --rw-rw---- 1 jstanko mail 4208883 Oct 5 00:33 jstanko --rw-rw---- 1 jh mail 4097161 Oct 5 23:36 jh --rw-rw---- 1 klee mail 3988082 Oct 6 00:50 klee --rw-rw---- 1 rico mail 3917348 Oct 5 23:37 rico \_ Soda gains sentience, enforces mail reading policy. Film at 11. \_ Requiring an imap compatible reader is silly. Just dump it in home dirs and let people deal as they choose. \_ New list of "offenders" (All under 15 MB quota, but these sizes are still unbelieveably large): \_ Most of these "offenders" are way below the 15 meg quota alloted for mail. muchandr -> 5.0 M \_ Muchandr is a repeat offender. I think he falls under the three strikes rule, let's sorry him! sky -> 4.6 M gsu -> 4.2 M rbola -> 4.1 M jh -> 3.9 M \_ jh ought to be excused if he comes and playes netrek \_ jh ought to be excused if he comes and plays netrek for GB again, umd traitor scum. -John klee -> 3.8 M annes -> 3.7 M rico -> 3.7 M wendyg -> 3.7 M kube -> 3.6 M \_ imho, soda should just forward mail. \_ wrong. \_ An opinion can't be wrong. But it would be wrong to implement this opinion. \= okay, IMHO WRONG!!!! \_ Thanks. \_ This sounds like a good idea... there are plenty of other places people can do their email these days. \_ IMHO U 12 W210NG D00D! \_ imho, user email should wind up in user home directories, and email as you have to store gay porn. fall under user quota. \_ that's an interesting idea... but then people would \_ Where is it written anyone has a _right_ to store porn? never clear out their mailspool, they'd just let it collect in their 10 meg quota. \_ so?? its their 10 meg quota, who are you to decide what they store in it. They have just as much right to store email as you have to store hot gay porn. \_ if everyone on soda used their 10 megs of quota, we'd be screwed. - danh \_ Where is it written that anyone has a _right_ to store porn? \_ Where is it written that anyone has the _right_ to store email? \_ It isn't. The priviledge is part of having a unix account unless otherwise specified. Porn is not a promised or implied right or priviledge. \_ Argeed. Use mh. Save a mail spool. \_ Ermmm... no |
2000/9/27-28 [Computer/Networking, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19334 Activity:high |
9/26 When my client, get's disconnected I get a message "reset by peer" Does it mean, csua reset's my session or, My ISP disconnect's me, from the session? \_ Why all the extraneous apostrophes? don't people even pretend to know grammar anymore? \_ 311T3 Hax0012 D0 ! N33D G12AMMA12 D00D \_ It means that someone tried a tcp hijack on your ssh session and the server broke the connection. Otherwise, soda rebooted. \_ Or you hit soda's 24 hour keepalive timeout and your ISP's firewall isn't playing nicely. (Or your ISP session timed out & you reconnected with a new IP address.) \_ or soda crashed and rebooted. \_ It means your lost your connection. Why do you care? \_ Well, just wondering which side is doing the reset since it happens quite frequently, if it's not from csua, then I may be able to do something on my end to fix this problem. |
2000/9/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19309 Activity:nil |
9/21 Stupid stuff expunged. I'm deeply worried about the kind of people we are letting on soda these days. |
2000/9/8-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:19207 Activity:moderate |
9/8 Shouldnt there be a Trevor Buckingham entry in the CSUA Encyclopedia by now? \_ There's a Trevor entry in the Playboy encyclopedia. Something like loser, reject, etc... \_ where can i read the CSUA encyclopedia? --chris \_ www.csua then click "CSUA Encyclopedia"... or go here: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~appel/csua.html Note: No info on Trevor... what gives? \_ The encyclopaedia and be-boys do not lend themselves to cohabitation. |
2000/7/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18801 Activity:nil |
7/27 [ stupid troll about ali deleted ] - mad motd troll deleter |
2000/7/20-21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18725 Activity:high |
7/19 I would like to set my display to another machine that is listening for X11 on a port other than 6000. How can I? \_ If you set your DISPLAY to server:42, your X clients will connect to server on port 6000 + 42. This will work for any port above 6000. Connecting to ports under 6000 isn't supported, and negative numbers don't work, but you can specify large numbers and they'll be treated as negative -- for example, on a 32-bit system, server:4294967295 would connect to port 5999. \_ cool. How are you figuring that 429467295 = -1 ? (or 4294961295 = -1?)? \_ 2^32-1. Look up "two's complement" in any intro architecture/digital design text (150 and 61c texts included). \_ [ad hominem deleted. not everyone here is in CS, by major _or_ profession] \_ If they have no interest in CS, they have no business being in the CSUA \_ Bullshit. Go read the CSUA constitution and bylaws. \_ the csua is for people who can't get into cs and are desperately looking for some skills to learn so they don't have to flip burgers otherwise. \_ do you want fries with that? /_ The CSUA is for everyone. CS students and non students alike. - Paolo, CSUA President. - and on a personal note. Fuck you. \_ umm, moron, i have established interest by the intial question and the further asking for detail. As to the CENsor, thanks but no thanks; i would \_ Restoration of previous ad hominem: "This person is too dumb to be in CS." like to have been able to read the personal attack and it isn't even in ERic's motd archive. For info i was not in the major, i AM in the profession (if y'all accept blue-collar sys admining as part of "the profession") -TOP \_ I think whether they're "qualified" to be in the CSUA is irrelevant; whether they're qualified to participate in a discussion where they have no knowledge is the issue. -tom \_ The individual in question is _seeking_ said knowledge. Which leaves you, yet again, without a point. Shut the fuck up tom. |
2000/7/14-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18682 Activity:high |
7/14 Its been a while since my UCB days. Out of curiosity, what p are the most popular dorms students want to be in? \_ 343 soda \_ is that like WEB or 260 Evans? -- pre-Soda geek. \_ 238 Evans \_ yermom's guest house \_ that's only for cs dorks. typically, foothill, unit 3, and clark kerr (for people with cars) are the desired spots \_ Ride bike! I did. spots \_ Jeez, you lazy schmuk. I used to walk from clark kerr, until I rode bike. -- grouchy oldtime sodan \_ well, it was also fucking expensive and FAR, so there... -- he who walked alot in berkeley \_ Moron, there are other places to go besides driving to campus from the dorms. Life as a student is not just "wake up, go to lecture, eat, go to sleep, repeat". \_ of course not. There's also the hacking on random things. \_ and chasing after chicks. \_ and masturbating \_ What's with all the complaining i hear from recent grads about clark-kerr being "far"? Man, back in the 1980s, people were happy to be in Dwight-Derby (it's old name?) and nobody complained. Sheesh. Wimps. -- mid-1980s eecs major \_ fuck dorms, just live in a Student Group Office like vadim does in the XCF - well (former XCF) \_ XCF must die! - recent /. headline \_ Evans. -wnj |
2000/7/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18670 Activity:high 66%like:18076 |
7/13 censor this troll \_ xxxxxx xxxxx xxx Happy xxx xxx x xxxxxxxx (Response censored.) |
2000/7/13-14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18660 Activity:kinda low |
7/13 Why do my trolls get deleted so fast? There should be at least a 3 day turnaround on those threads. Special threads like asian girls and white guys or dateless soda l0sers should go on for at least one week. -motd troller #69 \_ aaron, is that you? \_ Just breed more. Works for me. Maybe you need practice. |
2000/6/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18563 Activity:high 55%like:17557 |
6/28 I've generated a list of popular trolls. Now I'm wondering what are some examples of a good meta-trolls? \_ self-referential ones are good. \_ Like, say, this one \_ Hello aaron! /- You people are ALL NUTS, sheesh! \_ Learn some English, buddy. |
2000/6/23-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Computer/SW] UID:18539 Activity:low |
6/23 <TROLL>What are employers looking for in web designers nowadays? Which books should I study up on?</TROLL> \_ <BLINK> Tags For Dumbasses, 3rd edition \_ <BLINK> Tags For Dumbasses, 3rd edition \_ </BLINK> -!dumbass \_ oh yea? |
2000/6/22 [Academia, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18521 Activity:nil |
6/23 What is the best (easiest) way to satisfy the American Cultures requirement together with the Humanities and Social Studies requirement for the College of Engineering? -ax \_ College of Engineering has the easiest Humanities/Social Science/ American Culture requirements a Cal student can have. How easy do you want it to be? \_ Anthro 163AC with Dundes was really really good. He tries to scare you off at the beginning, but if you stick with it, he grades really easy and you get to research anything from yermom jokes to stories told by welders. \_ Which ax is asking this question? -ax (Axel) |
2000/6/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18423 Activity:very high |
6/7 Does anyone know if its possible to take any uc berkeley class through extension - former student wanting more enlightenment \_ you can take any regular berkeley class provided it has room in it and the professor doesn't object. go visit the extension office for the relevant form. \_ Alan, is that you? \_ No, I already know the answer and if I didn't, know how to find it faster/better than asking on the motd. -alan- \_ Yes. Don't know the details, but I think this is common. Try extension's website or call them. \_ It's called "concurrent enrollment". Most of the big classes are restricted, though you can still ask for the prof's OK. Upper-division classes are usually fine. -tom \_ My father was showing up at all sorts of engineering and cs classes. Didn't sign up, didn't pay anything, and the profs appreciated having someone who _wanted_ to be in their class. Just show and talk to the profs if you don't need the grade on paper. \_ did he actually learn anything without doing HW + exams? \_ Academia rewls, industry sucks! GO BACK TO SCHOOL if you are \_ If people on the motd are so critical of acedemia why the hell did they even bother going to Berkeley in the first place? \_ I rule, yermom sucks! Who's your Master???? Who's your Master!?!?!?!? -- sky 'slavemaster' king serious on being enlightened. \_ I agree. -- motd academia god |
2000/5/31 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18370 Activity:nil |
5/30 Are the city engineers in Berkeley stupid? \_ Yes. 'Nuff said. Move on. Really no point on starting a thread on this. Why is it that the large streets (like University Ave. and parts of Telegraph) have their traffic lights timed to be red more often than green while the smaller streets that intersect them are green longer than red? \_ if you were so smart, you'd avoid driving on University and Telegraph near the campus and College and the other "big" streets \_ Even idiots don't drive near campus. I'm talking about right after Jack in the Crack (small street before Alcatraz) and the 24 on/off ramp (no big surface streets intersecting them). \_ That would be Oakland, yes no? \_ People who drive or walk on the smallers streets have their rights too! -opressed smaller street walker \_ They must be. How else can you explain the repaving of Hearst east of Oxford after 10 years of disrepair and then promptly beginning to tear it up again? \_ that's the university doing infrastructure shite, not the city \_ No no, you mean every 2 years when city council elections come up. \_ how about the widening of the sidewalk on Center St. by campus a few years ago -- how long did that take? 6 months? \_ Duh. Welcome to Berkeley. It's *intentional*. They _want_ to make it harder for drivers in Berkeley. Duh, duh, duh. \_ Pshaw. That implies that there's anything even remotely coherent in their 'planning'. I think blatant stupidity applied in the most shortsighted manner possible is closer to the mark. |
2000/5/30-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18368 Activity:very high |
5/30 Are the city engineers in Berkeley stupid? Why is it that the large streets (like University Ave. and parts of Telegraph) have their traffic lights timed to be red more often than green while the smaller streets that intersect them are green longer than red? \_ if you were so smart, you'd avoid driving on University and Telegraph near the campus and College and the other "big" streets \_ Even idiots don't drive near campus. I'm talking about right after Jack in the Crack (small street before Alcatraz) and the 24 on/off ramp (no big surface streets intersecting them). \_ That would be Oakland, yes no? \_ People who drive or walk on the smallers streets have their rights too! -opressed smaller street walker \_ They must be. How else can you explain the repaving of Hearst east of Oxford after 10 years of disrepair and then promptly beginning to tear it up again? \_ that's the university doing infrastructure shite, not the city \_ No no, you mean every 2 years when city council elections come up. \_ how about the widening of the sidewalk on Center St. by campus a few years ago -- how long did that take? 6 months? \_ Duh. Welcome to Berkeley. It's *intentional*. They _want_ to make it harder for drivers in Berkeley. Duh, duh, duh. \_ Pshaw. That implies that there's anything even remotely coherent in their 'planning'. I think blatant stupidity applied in the most shortsighted manner possible is closer to the mark. \_ Go to a city planning meeting. They spell it out in plain English. Car drivers are evil and must be punished. I wouldn't bother to make this up. When in Berkeley, you should never attribute stupidity when evil will suffice. You're talking about a place that wants to turn a bunch of dilapidated structures (not enough left to call them 'buildings' anymore) into historic landmarks, thus keeping prime real estate from being turned into job making businesses and screwing the owners. It's Berkeley. Wake up. \_ Man, everything related to the city of berkeley just sucks. Why was rent control removed? when demand is greater than supply \_ Because Pete Wilson outlawed rent control statewide. Berkeley fought tooth-and-nail, but can't escape state law. Get a clue you fucking whiner. rent control is good for the tenants. parking stinks, i think everyone w/ a car has paid at least 200 in parking tickets (me much more). Who here has parked at soda and gotten massive tickets?? Where do they expect people to park to go lab? \_ walk to lab, you fucking shithead. know how much i paid in tickets in 4 years at cal? nothing. go back to LA and drive around with the rest of the auto-worshiping shitheads. \_ you probably live close enough to walk. not everyone lives within walking distance. think b4 you speak \_ Ride Bike? Suck me bitch. This is the only city where they seem like they make life hard for the students, the non-students that generally make up the population of berkeley seem to want to make it hard for students to have proper accomodations... And how come we still have peoples park??? we need another unit... not a drugged&homeless gathering center. <sigh> \_ uh, rent control went away because vacancy rent control was \_ WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!???? \_ can't we all just get along? |
2000/5/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18339 Activity:nil 66%like:17613 |
5/24 man page troll deleted. \_ it wasnt a troll. just lack of clue. Since the answer to every question posted is always RTFM, I would have thought that "how do I RTFM?" might actually get an answer. \_ shell_prompt% man man |
2000/5/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18338 Activity:insanely high |
5/24 I think the "XXX troll deleted" messages are a bit uncalled for sometimes. I propose that if you are going to delete a post becuase you think it's a troll, you should sign your name, or maybe you should only need to sign your name when you delete a signed post. Comments? -emin \_ trolls never sign their names. That's part of what makes them trolls. -tom \_ don't think its that necessary. \_ people who delete stuff that they think is a troll are censors. censors ar fucking assholes. period. they just like to try to legitimize their censorship by signing or saying troll deleted. oh, an d did i say fuck you to all the censors? here: fuck you. |
2000/5/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18337 Activity:nil 66%like:17613 |
5/24 Troll about deleting trolls deleted. \_ It wasn't a troll. This is the kind of thing I was talking about. I restored my post. -emin |
2000/5/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18318 Activity:high 80%like:17613 |
5/22 Priceline-- troll deleted. \_ Damn it! I missed a troll. -disappointed |
2000/5/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18295 Activity:high |
5/18 http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~tpc/grrls Is this proper on CSUA? \_ doesn't seem to be violating any ucb rules. i'm not offended by it. \_ yes! thank you! \_ i fucking hate dorky ass girls. how bout more pics of brooke berry buckingham williams/whatever ==ham. \_ Possibly some copyright violation, but who's the owner? So who knows? |
2000/5/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Reference/BayArea] UID:18285 Activity:very high |
5/16 Any home owners here in soda? What area is still 'reasonable' to buy property these days in the East Bay? \_ Oakland (Temescal/Piedmont Ave/Grand Lake), Berkeley flatlands. -tom \_ I got a house last year in El Cerrito. -- jsjacob \_ What is your price range? And are you able to tolerate long commutes? Would you settle for a townhouse or it has to be a single family house? Is this a house for investment? How long do you plan to live there? Is school district important for you? There are a lot of questions that you have to answer before you can decide on an area. \_ a townhouse is settling? \_ Yes. \_ Exactly. Any answer would be worthless without knowing these things. Here's yet another example of an anonymous person having something more important to say than the two signed people who just babbled. I deleted those comments to save them from the embarrassment of a comparison to the anonymous reply. Also, I don't embrass easily. -- jsjacob Also, I don't embarass easily. -- jsjacob \_ I answered the first question, not the second. Also, I don't embarrass easily. -- jsjacob \_ 'Reasonable' is a matter of opinion and circumstance and can't be answered properly without more information. \_ get a fucking clue. -tom \_ Learn how to format your fucking motd posts so I don't have to guess who the fuck you're addressing. \_ the moron who deleted actual answers to the question in favor of his anonymous idiocy. -tom \_ You have to ask? A General answer to your General question: Q:East Bay A:Oakland Cheaper, close for most commute, near BART/bus/freeway \_ Anonymous cowards aside, you can get good deals on nice houses in good neighberhoods in Oakland, particularly Temescal, Piedmont Avenue, and Grand Lake. Other nice areas in Oakland (Rockridge, Montclair) are very expensive. Berkeley flatlands can be OK though they vary from street to street. -tom \_ to the anonymous coward who keeps deleting this: get a fucking life. -tom \_ forget about san francisco. even the crappiest neighborhoods are no longer reasonable. -- joeking |
2000/4/23-25 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18091 Activity:very high |
4/23 The must-have O'Reilly nutshell book http://www.ora.com/catalog/evilgenius \_ Have you showered or had sex at anytime in the last 15 years? Have you learned to use the TAB key, yet? Acquired the smallest shreds of a sense of humor, maybe? Keep working at it. \_ Do the books have new stuff are they just the online stuff in book form? \_ the online stuff. But this is worth the $12 just to show the genuine o'reilly title on your bookshelf :-) \_ Worth it if you're tripping all over yourself to show people that you're a total fucking loser geek, I guess. I'm sure it fits nicely in that blank space on your bookshelf right between the English-Klingon dictionary and the binder that holds your lovlingly xeroxed SCA guide on how to make your \_ KA'BAH! You want 'The Tragedy of Khamlet, Son of the Emperor Qo'nos', by Wil'yam Shax'pir. holds your lovingly xeroxed SCA guide on how to make your own armor. \_ umm, user friendly is like hte definition of not funny \_ I tried to read it a few times. It was a waste. I've since purged my mind of the unpleasantness. \_ it's amazing how many non-UNIX folks still manage to aquire, and then use, soda accounts. Or maybe you just feel offended that iliad could dare make fun of the Open/Net/FreeBSD wars. \_ ANY student enrolled in UC Berkeley may apply and receive csua membership and an account on the machine at soda.csua - paolo \_ Paolo, read the CSUA FAQ for once in your life: 1. How do I get a soda account? Soda accounts are ONLY for members of the CSUA. The CSUA is not an account provider -- we are an organization for people with an members of the ASUC may be active (voting) members, but other eligible folks are welcome to participate in CSUA activites and make use of our resources. We expect our members to be at least somewhat computer literate, and to have an interest in learning and experimenting. Because of that, and the fact that our staff are all volunteers, we don't serve the users in the same way someplaces like the OCF does. This doesn't mean soda is especially unreliable or uncared for, it just means we expect people to be better able to fend for themselves. that iliad could dare make fun of the Open/Net/FreeBSD wars. interest in computers and computer science. Any U.C. Berkeley living everyday thanking Tourvalds. student, faculty, or staff is eligible to become a member. Only \_ thank you for agreeing with me \_ user friendly is about as funny as being stuck in a room with a bunch of soft, puffy, geeks who last showered in '93 and keep parrotting bits from monty python and hitchhicker's guide. -aspo \_ Dude, these are the sort of people who wrote the OS you run, the networking protocols you indirectly make a living off of. So they can't all be rectally fixated biker studs like you. Go hangout with your well-adjusted loser friends and leave the geeks alone. \_ well for one I don't do ecommerce crap. Networking protocols don't have anything to do with what I do for a living. And yay. So a bunch of smelly, need-to-die geeks have written a bunch of computer software. Some of that software is worth using. %99.99 percent of it is as much crap as the worthless lives of the sad little sexless acne-scarred twits who wrote it. -aspo \_ What the fuck are you doing on soda, you evil little twit? \_ Uh, yeah, tell me more about "Illiad", uber-hacker extraordinaire. Perhaps Illiad was an early member of the CSRG, responsible for most of 2BSD? Or maybe Illiad stood at the shoulder of timid young newbie hacker Richard Stallman, making gentle suggestions that would later form a life philosophy? Or did he write one of those Johhny-come-lately "DUD3, L1NUX 1Z WAY K-RAD!!!1!!" 10-dimensional 76-bit-color window managers that you wannbe-UNIX-folk are always so fond of arguing over? Real men use twm. And they don't read User Friendly. \_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! \_ so geeks, wrote the OS, they have fame and they have $$$. I'm not living everyday thanking Tourvalds, Behlendorf, and Ylonen. \_ It's likely I was a "UNIX folk" when you were still in grade school. I find the comic to be painfully unfunny because it simply lacks any form of humor. It just isn't funny and not in the Berkeley, "How many lesbians does it take?" way. \_ Ah. I see your problem is just that you're an old curmugeon, who has already heard every joke in existance, back in 1950. Yes, there are stupid ones. But only about 1%. \_ http://www.sluggy.com is much more amusing. \_ sluggy is just as bad. \_ <DEAD>www.spacemoose.com<DEAD> is much more amusing. \_ http://www.chick.com is much more amusing. \_ http://www.mycomix.com to choose for yourself. \_ http://www.jerkcity.com is better than stoned gay sex. \_ http://hotzp.com/badboys/archives/021900.html \_ BBoCS! \_ http://www.yomomma.com \_ http://http://www.angryflower.com is better than flying fetuses |
2000/4/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18034 Activity:high |
4/17 What's a troll? - curious in Cali \_ Cool. It never occured to me to start a trollfest over the definition of the word 'troll'. Fellow troll, I salute you! \_ if you knew what you were doing, the thing above this is a troll. A message simply to get people to respond and argue, etc. just for the sake of it. \_ a stupid quesiton isn't REALLY a troll. A troll is somthing that pushes people's buttons that has been posted purely for the joy of watching people makes fools out of themselves by being full of justifed anger. A troll is NOT someone posting sometihng they legitimatly care about, nor is a troll someone making some stupid in-joke. \ Where is a good place to meet asian chicks is a troll \_ flamebait a subcategory, different category, or synonym? \_ a troll can also mean a certain type of creature found in Dungeons and Dragon games. I think trolls are also creatures guarding bridges, right? (yes, this isn't probably what the original poster was looking for). \_ troll is also a fishing term, I believe, where you try to get the fish to bite. \_ Anytime you're using a pole and hook you're trying to get the fish to bite. Trolling is when the boat is in motion, making the lure jump around like a living organism instead of a piece of plastic. \_ That should be trawling. \_ trolling is when you trawl with bits of computer geek guts as bait \_ no intelligent fish would take a bite on that... \_ intelligent and fish are two words that don't mix \_ what about flipper!? he's a dolphin! dolphin are fishies! \_ mammals. flipper is a mammal... and a rapist \_ Since when is flipper a rapist? A racist, sure we all know that but a rapist? |
2000/4/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18028 Activity:nil |
4/16 Troll, and troll response to troll, censored. |
2000/3/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17866 Activity:high |
3/26 Mail spool troll purged as per prior warning. \_ is it really a troll? \_ Yeah, he got me. It was a total troll. \_ I can smell a mail spool troll miles away. -purger \_ Maybe, but that wasn't a subtle troll, poor guy. |
2000/3/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17815 Activity:nil |
3/20 I want to read the mail that gets delivered to csua@csua, but I don't want to be on the mailing list. Is there a solution? \_ AFAIK, no. It shows up in the wall log, but I think mails to lwall get clipped to a certain length. Why not just use procmail to store it somewhere other than your inbox until you read it, then you can nuke it. -dans \_ Yeah, or maybe I can use procmail to save the last month's csua@csua e-mails in /csua/tmp so that everyone can read them. Or has someone done this already? \_ ~danh/csua-mail . enjoy. |
2000/3/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17786 Activity:very high 50%like:17967 60%like:19246 |
3/16 Clean your pr0n out of /csua/tmp \_ Fuck, now where am I gonna keep my Jenna pictures? \_ Who's Jenna? \_ if you have to ask... \_ Guh-duh! leik if you have to ask you don't know! Guh-har! Thats leik s0 clev0r!111 d00de!11 \_ Hi paolo! \_ whoa...there's porn in the tmp directory...i'm there =) |
2000/3/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17777 Activity:nil |
3/14 Leave it alone, dans. Stifling the racist and the stupid is not the correct way to deal with them. \_ What would you suggest? -curious \_ Why should anything be done? \_ Censoring them is wrong. They must be confronted, their views aired and addressed and put in their place in a public forum if it is a public forum where they spew. Anything less and you lend credibility. Why censor that which is easily debated and shown to be false? Only the truth gets censored and by doing so you falsely make it appear that their hatred has a basis in fact. \_ I'm not "curious", and I agree with you on this. If I thought it was an actual hate diatribe, then I would have left it to be skewered by public discourse. Thing is, it looked more like a troll than anything else. It was a direct quote from The Blues Brothers, I alluded to this in the message I put in place of the nuked thread. Someone else, I think kube, noticed it as well, posting a comment about hating Illinois nazis, another Blues Brothers allusion. -dans \_ Keeping in mind that most of the people here haven't seen the BB's and almost as many have no idea who Belushi is since he died when they were learning to walk.... \_ No one who has never seen the Blues Brothers should be allowed to join the CSUA \_ Hmm, we may have to add that to the Constitution. -dans \_ "We got two guys out here who look like they from the FBI or somethin'..." |
2000/3/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17776 Activity:high |
3/14 March Madness is here! Join the "CSUA" group on http://espn.com! \_ Fuck March Madness. \_ college hoops suck big dick, i agree. \_ March Madness?!!! Is there a Macy's at Hilltop or should I go to SF? \_ There's a Macy's at Hilltop. \_ Is it better to be NIT champion, or invited to the NCAA tourney and lose in one of the earlier rounds? \_ Better in what sense? In terms of respectability and prestige, I would say getting into the NCAA tournament, but in terms of preparing the team for the future, probably winning the NIT. \_ Better to make Sweet 16 in NCAA than win NIT. Better to win NIT than bow out of NCAA before Sweet 16. \_ Actually, depends on the team. Some are lucky just to make it to NIT and would call themselves successful just for making it that far. But some teams like Vanderbilt feel jilted for missing NCAA and feel NIT is "loser's bracket." \_ Not to be the spoil sport, but why does anyone care? \_ (Trying not to be flippant here), but there are those of us who enjoy watching sports. Does it make a difference in our lives? Most likely not. Are there things better to do? Probably yes. You could make the argument why should anyone care about anything, but that's a pointless path to take. Just accept that some people enjoy the NCAA tourney. \_ 'dont ask, dont tell' -- keep your closet habits in the closet. We dont want to hear about them. \_ By closet, I assume you mean habits we prefer not to display or are too embarrassed to reveal. Who says that's the case? \_ You're missing the point. I think the fellow is saying, "Stuff your whiny-ass, self-important opinions up your ass, sit-the-fuck-down, and save your specious justifications for someone that gives a damn." But that's just a guess on my part. \_ And my point is, who's to judge what's a topic that people around here give a damn? Does it have to be *nix related or geek-related? Does it have to involve trying to get laid? There's no answer. If you don't like a topic, ignore it. \_ Petulant whine deleted. \_ I censor all topics of no direct and immediate interest to me. \_ Just that the results of other people's sporting activities are about the least important thing I can imagine. Unless you're monetarily involved in some way they're completely meaningless to the workings of the world. Is that the point? The ultimate in vegging out? |
2000/3/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:17764 Activity:very high |
3/12 Stupid trolls deleted (again). Mail will stay in /var/mail where it belings. -your friend \_ Guh-duh! Clean up your mail spools! Especially all you people who never login or read the motd but receive tons of mail here! Yeah! That'll fix it! And oh yeah! Put a bigger disk in soda! Duh! Kewl! I just solve the mail spool problem for leik 2 munths with a s00per kewl idea! Buy more disk! Wh0a! I'm smart! |
2000/3/10-12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17734 Activity:high |
3/10 Is there still a difference between US and int'l encryption on browsers? Yes. I'm assuming you know what the difference is, but if you don't, I'd be glad to explain it. -dans \_ Maybe not. I thought only US version is 128 bit strong encryption but now it seems that int'l version is also like that. Does that have to do with the recent legislation? \_ Ah, I forgot. Recent legislation allows companies to export strong encryption on a case by case basis. I'm unfortunately not aware of the gory legal details. What you suggest sounds quite possible though. -dans \_ Once again we see dans mouthing off about something he knows nothing about.... \_ You nuked my response to this as well as someone's followup comment stating that it wasn't legislation, but executive action, and that it hadn't gone into effect yet. You also nuked my response to your asanine comment pointing out that 1) My original reponse, that the difference still exists is correct and 2) I very clearly stated that I am uncertain of the gory legal details. Either add something useful or piss off, but don't nuke useful responses. -dans \_ You nuked someone's followup comment stating that it wasn't legislation, but executive action, and that it hadn't gone into effect yet. You also nuked my response to your asanine \_ English 1A comment pointing out that 1) My original reponse, that the difference still exists is correct and 2) I very clearly stated that I am uncertain of the gory legal details. Either add something useful or piss off, but don't nuke useful responses. -dans P.S. Sign yer posts you twink. \_ I nuked nothing. Go fuck yourself. The motd got nuked flat many times today and I restored the copy I had which was better than the zero bytes here. Did I tell you to \_ Go fuck yourself. When your done, go stick your head in a pig. While you're at it, sign yer posts. -dans go fuck yourself, yet? Oh yes, I did. -happily not dans \_ Go fuck yourself. Repeat. Then go stick your head in a pig. _/o \/ \@ _________ \___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I Lung Ass Anatomically correct ears Lung Ass | (after one level of indirection) | |Apple II _/o \/ \@ __v______v O_ )=( ____I_ <______ O2 --> mouth --> >___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I _n_ ______ | || v | |Apple II _/| ______ | || O2 --> mouth --> O>___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I _/x \/ \@ __v______vv O_ )=( ____I_ <O_____ O2 --> mouth --> O>___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I<--- also cooked ^ \ II II II II / | \___________________________/ Apple I ^ | plate Then sign yer posts you twink. -dans \_ Once again dans reaches new heights of maturity and leadership on the motd. \_ Yes, and the motd has always been such a bastion of maturity in this sober and reserved organization. -dans \_ The pig lacks a mouth. How does it eat? \_ Now that you've added a mouth so the pig can eat, where does the food go after it digests? \_ The *real* question is: how does the user that movie did. And now that it has a mouth, what would it say with such an uncomfortable object up it's ASS?? \_ Thanks for answering my queries regarding the lack of mouth and where the food goes when it digests. I notice that the pig is now dead and cooked. So does that mean the guy with the head in the pig can eat his way out now? breathe? \_ I also have another question, i forgot to ask before: why does the pig have an "n" for ears? I thought pigs had more pointy and large ears -- at least the one in that movie did. I did not realize pigs could talk until I saw that movie. Since this pig now has a mouth, what would it say with such an uncomfortable object up it's ASS?? \_ Also, thanks for answering my queries regarding the lack of mouth and where the food goes when it digests. I notice that the pig is now dead and cooked. So does that mean the guy with the head in the pig can eat his way out now? \_ More importantly, where do you stick the apple when you cook it? \_ dans, you are truly the van gogh of our generation. \_ Can I have his spare ear? \_ Wow, dans, you sure showed me with that ancient ascii 'art' rip off. Your lame rip off doesn't make you any less stupid or ignorant. If you spent more time on issues like the problem with the treasurer or the mail spools rather than posting crap to the motd and proving your manhood by signing your garbage then maybe someone would have some respect for you instead of pissing down your throat on the motd everyday. You reap what you sow. By signing you show not that you're a real studboy but that you take the motd too seriously and are just a twit and an incompetent imbecile incapable of performing the most basic duties of the office you voluntarily ran for. Do your job. No one gives a shit if you sign your filth. \_ Fuck you, you twink. Problem with treasurer: he doesn't read his soda mail, and I solve this how? Force him to read his e-mail with the evil e-mail water cure torture? I don't think so. Impeach him? Who's going to replace him? You? Are you even eligible for the politburo? Even if you are, you won't even claim responsibility for your posts on the motd, so why the hell should anyone expect you to be any better as treasurer? In light of the situation, mikeh and I did the best thing possible: we routed around it. Note our repeated admonitions to send inquiries regarding donations to one of us, not twohey. Problem with the mail spools: Short term answer: a) I don't have root. b) machines have been the VP's domain for a long time. mikeh and the other root staff do a damn good job of managing things. I'm not going to step on their toes by madly gzipping offender's mailspools and dropping them in their home directories. If that's the right thing to do in this situation, then the root staff will do it. It's their decision. a) if there is a different solution (i.e. reducing mail quotas), they'll pursue it, but, regardless, it remains their decision. Long term answer: Get more disk. Duh. I'll repeat what I've said before: There's talk of a soda upgrade. Because we don't know the exact kind of disk (SCSI, duh, but what kind of SCSI?) we'll be using, we're not going to rush out and buy a disk to solve today's mail spool problem if we can't use it in new soda a month from now. Until either soda gets upgraded or we decide it's not going to happen, buying a disk is out of the question. If someone has a spare disk they can donate, that might help, but most of the offers we've seen have been to buy or supply funds for the purchase of a disk. As important to the CSUA as soda is, soda != CSUA, and my job is not to baby sit it. If you want to criticize the job I've done as prez, try actually reading the job description first (it's in the CSUA constitution). I don't sign my posts because I believe in owning my words. I do it independent of the medium. I suppose you must have difficulty owning your words, seeing as they're all shit. -dans P.S. No rip-off, it's straight out of the CSUA Encyclopedia. Frankly I think the subsequent discussion is damned funny. \_ Have some balls. Impeach him, give someone else the opportunity to do it. An empty office is better than a do-nothing office. As far as the CSUA Constitution goes, I wrote parts of it. I think I know what it says. Don't use a piece of paper to hide your ineffective cowardess. Stand up and do the right thing. "It's not my job!" is the lamest weakest cop-out ever given. Make it your job! Those who came before and will be coming after will appreciate it. Don't be another worthless resume stuffing figurehead. |
2000/3/2-3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17681 Activity:high |
3/1 Please clean out /var/mail (your mailbox). Was 100% full but i just cleaned out over 1MB. \_ Encourage use of a real mail tool like [n]MH to avoid keeping your mail in /var/mail. \_ or use procmail/slocal to automatically move mail to your local directory \_ No need for procmail. echo $HOME/Mailbox >.forward \_ can't we just delete ALL the alumni who have not attended CSUA meeting in the last X number of years or who have not made generous donation to CSUA? I bet that'd free up a of space. Furthermore, less user = less complaint \_ You're not very bright, are you? \_ Yeah, it's more important to have some extra mail spool space than first shot at jobs and free clue and hardware. Good plan. Dump the evil alumni who steal our mail spool space, most of whom are storing their mail in their home directory because _they_ have clue. Please tell me you're a troll. I'll feel better being trolled than if you're real. |
2000/2/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17613 Activity:moderate 80%like:18318 66%like:18337 66%like:18339 |
2/24 Troll deleted. \_ do you know what a troll is? Are you stupid? |
2000/2/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17597 Activity:nil |
10/3 I promise to keep my virginity as long as I am a soda geek. --- promise keeper \_ as if you could help it... \_ That isn't much of a promise. More of a guarantee. \_ The rest of soda promises to help you achieve this goal. \_ I lost mine last night. \_ I lost mine to psb and nweaver at BAGG last week -- promise breaker \_ Lose your virginity by hitting on one of the CSUA sluts \_ That only works for women since all the CSUA sluts are lesbians \_ Name one who claims lesbianism but hasn't had a long string of male sex partners or isn't currently screwing some random dude. \_ I can personnaly assure you that this is FAR from true. -Soda Mack Daddy \_ So a guy who sleeps around is a mack, but a girl who sleeps around is a slut? One standard is plenty. \_ How about we drop the use of the term "slut" and use "sexually empowered woman" instead \_ "Slut" is more accurate. -The Mack **_ Name some witness please. \_ Uh huh. More like wannabe college-cool lesbians. A soda chick claiming lesbianism is merely the typical its-so-cool college attitude compounded by the need for a defense against the typical sex starved soda geek she comes into contact with through the csua. \_ This analysis is so right on that I must comment on it explicitly. It shows a depth and keeness of intellect rarely exhibited on the soda motd. Well done -- motdd \_ So you haven't been able to get any either? \_ No, I was just making a comment about that statment above; but your response is funny :) also, I think most of the soda women (girls?) are skanky, or damaged goods, or a combo of both -- motdd (yes, there are exceptions, I know- and I include the men (boys) in this as well) \_ damaged goods, huh? So are you a virgin? \_ Damaged doesn't mean "non-virgin". It means "psychotic and emotional mess". \_ What about those chicks who crave attention they can't get anywhere else? \_ At Berkeley the competition is so minimal that all a chick has to do to get attention is breathe. Yes, this _does_ say something about men at Cal as well. \just shows that some people need to get a clue when it comes to women \_ And you made this observation on paid company time? (I'm not getting paid while typing this.) \_ then you are a loser and a slave. The only excuse for posting to the soda motd is doing it on company time; doing it on your own time is a waste of what little life you have. -- posting this on company time, right after my 2 hour lunch. \_ I didn't take a 2 hour lunch today but I showed 4 hours late and I'm going home 2 hours early. I'm also getting paid to post this. How's that? \_ that's pretty good, if you can keep it up :) \_ It's killing me. I need more hobbies since like a US farmer, I get paid not to work. \_ And your problem with this is ? \_ The women on soda are smart enough not to get involved in this thread \_ hear hear - the voice of reason. best to let the boys be oh so brave and daring by posting their rantings to the soda motd - it's not like any of them would ever have the guts to even make a peep about any issue IRL anyway - just \_ I feel stupid for asking, but I really want to know what is "IRL"? keep playing and posting in your insulated little world and never actually do anything. suits us just fine. \_ and this surprises you? \_ Rantings? What rantings? A few facts: 0) PRINT "HELLO, WORLD!" 1) No real women in soda hall 2) No real lesbians in soda hall 3) No real men in soda hall 4) No real or simulated sex in soda hall 5) I get paid to post to the motd which hell sure beats doing real work 6) IRL = In Real Life. 7) That you would think anyone takes this seriously and post a real reply says more about you than about those posting so-called rants. 8) Did I mention I'm getting paid to do this? :-) 9) GOTO 0 \_ This is getting more and more hilarious! |
2000/2/21 [Computer/SW/Editors/Emacs, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17580 Activity:nil 50%like:16578 |
motd nuked. Killroy was here. emacs user deleted. \_ kool \1'll get ya mudafaka! yo deleted my postz! |
2000/2/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17573 Activity:nil 80%like:16578 |
MOTD NUKED \_ good |
2000/2/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17557 Activity:nil 55%like:18563 |
2/17 Trolls and meta-trolls deleted. |
2000/2/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17554 Activity:nil |
2/17 Troll deleted again. And weak attempt to troll the anti-troll was also deleted. |
2000/2/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17552 Activity:nil |
2/17 Troll deleted. Give it a rest. You're clearly intentionally trying to use a hot button issue to troll the motd. I'll stop deleting it when you stop trolling about it. |
2000/2/11-12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17490 Activity:high |
2/11 Where have all the good troller gone? I only see lame flamebaits and small-time trolls. We need some big time trollers to stir things up a bit. \_ uh, I guess this is a troll too? \_ it's a meta-troll. \_ The motd was over 470 lines, most of it trolling. What exactly qualifies in your book as a "good troll"? Once agin, the motd is not here for your amusement. If you want it to be amusing, you must make it so. Now go get a cookie. \_ the motd IS for my amusement you fool. \_ Then clearly it isn't satisfying your needs so you should fuck off and die. Thank you. |
2000/2/3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17426 Activity:nil |
2/3 What is the difference between flamebait and a troll? \_ Semantics? Or a troll is a post to gain attention, and flamebait is a post intended to provoke vehement reaction. I dunno really. \_ flamebait is something stupid. "MS-DOS is the best OS". A troll is something inflammatory posted deliberately, about a 'big issue'. But usually posted in the guise of an "innocent" poster. eg: "Why does the army let fags in anyway?" \_ No. A troll is a descriptive term for a person who posts flamebait. Flamebait is a post intended to provoke a vehement reaction. Trolls post flamebait. I know because I'm one and loving it. --flamebait posting troll \_ troll describes both the idiot and the idiotic post. -tom \_ One man's idiot is another man's amusement. |
2000/2/3-5 [Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17420 Activity:high |
2/3 Does emacs automagically understand lines like the following or do I have to do something special in .emacs? How can I get emacs to automagically insert these lines at the start of all my c and tcl files? /*-*-Mode:C++; c-basic-offset:8; tab-width:8; indent-tabs-mode:t-*-*/ > 2/3 What is the difference between flamebait and a troll? \_ Use perl. 2/3 What is the difference between flamebait and a troll? \_ Semantics? Or a troll is a post to gain attention, and flamebait is a post intended to provoke vehement reaction. I dunno really. \_ flamebait is something stupid. "MS-DOS is the best OS". A troll is something inflammatory posted deliberately, about a 'big issue'. But usually posted in the guise of an "innocent" poster. eg: "Why does the army let fags in anyway?" \_ No. A troll is a descriptive term for a person who posts flamebait. Flamebait is a post intended to provoke a vehement reaction. Trolls post flamebait. I know because I'm one and loving it. --flamebait posting troll \_ troll describes both the idiot and the idiotic post. -tom \_ WTF does that mean? Signyerposts Tom. I signedyermom. \_ That means "Use perl." \_ Is perl a new text editor? I typed perl, but nothing happened. \_ Inline insertion/replacement with perl. \_ ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Text Editor. |
2000/1/26 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Politics, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17335 Activity:high |
1/25 Stupid national airports thread deleted as I have been seeing it since a year ago and it is already getting boring \_ fuck you Heuwey Long. \_ fuck you Jean McGrath. |
2000/1/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Computer/HW/Drives] UID:17276 Activity:very high |
1/20 Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0e 2540480 2332740 4502 100% /var/mail CLEAN UP YOUR MAIL SPOOLS YOU HOZERS! \_ no, add more disks to support our huge mail quotas! \_ I propose we squish more people and delete their home (e.g. kchang) \_ I propose to have a mail quotas smaller than 8mb. If soda does not have enough disk space, why have such huge mail quotas in first place?. As far as I can see none of the users below is above their quota. I don't see a reson why they should be squished -anonymous coward 5443134 scharpen 5004733 ying 4951795 egwall 4939696 joy 4862243 ivy 4841636 blyon 4825914 yule 4822396 andrea 4800332 kane 4786558 innami 4737733 clarie 4704368 hankwong 4688583 jean 4646727 blojo 4603297 mackn 4499982 lleong 4459360 anjie 4413419 duyphun 4400330 jones 4321963 ramses 5443134 scharpen 4737733 clarie 5004733 ying 4704368 hankwong 4951795 egwall 4688583 jean 4939696 joy 4646727 blojo 4862243 ivy 4603297 mackn 4841636 blyon 4499982 lleong 4825914 yule 4459360 anjie 4822396 andrea 4413419 duyphun hundreds of hours of works. -tom \_ Fascinating. 8.5% of the users consume 50% of the space. 15% consume about 70%. This is fine of course unless the spool runs out of space. 4800332 kane 4400330 jones 4786558 innami 4321963 ramses \_ End the Bolt Action domination of the mail spool! \_ How about these folks? kchang isn't even in the running. Do you people really need 4-5 MB in your mailspool? \_ it's really stupid to quibble about 5MB when 18GB disks cost $300. -tom \_ Fine, so donate $300 to CSUA and shut up. \_ the CSUA gets a budget every year, this is a fine thing to spend money on. And I have donated quite a bit of money to the CSUA over time, not to mention hundreds of hours of work. -tom \_ The point is, a free resource always leads to a shortage. Sure, you've put resources into soda, and look at your spool usage--you're actually being responsible with it. I'd bet that that majority of hte names there haven't given squat to soda. (surprised to see blojo up there) \_ an 18GB disk for mail would allow an average spool size of 7MB (2600 passwd entries). Considering that there's not a single mail spool larger than that now, we're looking at years and years before even actively irresponsible usage could fill it. -tom \_ Great. So why don't we just purchase the disk and be done with it. Anyone? \_ Fascinating. 8.5% of the population consume 50% of the wealth. 15% consume about wealth. This is fine of course unless the spool runs out of space. \_ Fascinating. 8.5% of the population consume 50% of the space. 15% consume about 50% of the space. This is fine of course unless the spool runs out of space. \_ Space consumption always has a skewed distribution. \_ Can't we just have a quota system with slightly smaller mail-spool limits? Most people would be fine with it... \_ I propose we adjust all mail user agents and delivery agents to put the users' mail spools in their home directories, so that we dont have this double mail spool/disk usage problem. -ERic \_ Just make a link from /var/mail/foo to ~foo/mbox or such? -- yuen \_ they do this where I work, and it leads to more dropped mail and related problems because of the relative instability of home mounts to the mail server, common home file overfills, etc. \_ soda's home directories arent remote-mounted. \_ I think mail-in-home-dir is a reasonable setup but it doesn't really help the problem of inadequate disk space. In fact it's worse because people filling up their home directories with coding projects will hoze mail. -tom |
2000/1/17-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Uncategorized/Profanity] UID:17251 Activity:high |
1/17 anyone know any good frequencies in berkeley besides 460.175, 488.250, 460.250, 460.050, and 460.025? Or what freq. the UC police use? Or task force? --sky \_ Scanning? How dull. Please. \_ y34h!^(! sK4nNiNg iS f0r Lu$eRz(*!^! r34l sTuDz h4Ck LyNuCkz. --sky \_ Scanning is like reading other people's email. Dull. Hacking linux is something less than 1% of linux users are actually doing. The bulk are loading RPMs written by others and calling themselves hackers. \_ Listening to police frequencies is dull. Sitting in prison is even more dull. QED --sky \_ Dude you ar leik sutch the s00per kriminal that u have a skannar to av0id da fuZZ yet you don't even fucking know what freqs they use and need to ask on the motd? U R S0 KEWEL!!!!!@!@!@11 \_ I never tripped on police until being arrested a few days ago. After seeing how sucky it is to be stuck in Santa Rita, I decided to take things a bit more seriously. And this was the same night I was visiting a friend in Santa Rita who got busted when the house he was at was raided by oakland police, the Alameda DA, and the FBI. I have the BPD freq's but I need the freq's for task as they are the d00ds that roll up on you when you get raided. And as there are lots of other paranoid freaks on soda, I thought someone should know. So kindly shut the fuck up before I send over some very large ex cons to your house to rearrange your furnature. -- not sky \_ D00d yur leik s0 k00l getin bustid bi da EF Bee EYE!!11 leik u tript on da man! U B K00l wit da Br0z!11 In short, you're a fucking poser and a loser and no one wants to hear how many cons took your geek ass in prison. And oh yeah, did I forget to mention how impressed I am that a Cal alum or student managed to get arrested? BFD. That takes real brains in a town where you can smoke a joint in public in the pre-med marijuana days and no one blinked. Go snuggle up with your con lover buddies and get the fuck off the motd. -- also not sky \_ Heh. If you are so sure I am a poser, why dont you post your name in the motd? whats wrong? Afraid if you signed your name everyone would laugh at your false male bravado? I suspect you are tom, in which case you will be forgiven because you are cursed with perpetual PMS, but if you are not, all I can say is you better back the fuck up before you get smacked the fuck up, bitch - sky \_ Mostly, I would guess it's because the guy doesn't want to go to the trouble of writing a kill-file or mail filter to screen your stoopid-ass prepubescent messages straight into /dev/null. dumbfuck. \_ I sign my posts. But you are a fucking loser. -tom \_ Idiot. *I* wasn't the one stomping around claiming to be a homey in need of a scanner so I don't go back to being the anal love child of the bay area prison system. You're a loser and a poser and for only the second time in my life I agree 100% with Tom. "I am sky da home boy wit da poh-leese skannah and I ahm gunna smack y00 da fuck up da hed!" Child, grow up. It's dull and stupid and there's nothing "kewel" about going to prison, getting raped in prison or "smack the fuck up, bitch". I only a silly scared child when I read your drivel. --not as kewel a homeboy as sky the mighty wit da poh-leese skannah \_ Oh *please*. Linux is *so* last week. *Nobody* who's *anybody* does *that* anymore. \_ yah. we're all running palmOS on crusoe devices. \_ Oh *please*. PalmOS is so *yesterday*. *Nobody* who's *anybody* does *that* anymore. |
2000/1/14-2/25 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17237 Activity:high 66%like:18076 |
1/14 Troll killed. \_ Out of curiousity, where did the term "troll" come from? And "spam"? I see no relationship between ham and unwanted email. \_ Out of curiousity, where did the term "troull" come froum? And "spam"? I see no relatiounship between ham and unwanted email. \_ try harder. |
1999/12/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17105 Activity:nil 50%like:16578 |
12/27 Peace in our time. This motd nuked to keep sanity alive. \_ Did you post this from the future? |
1999/12/21-23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17079 Activity:high |
12/21 does /csua/tmp gets cleaned whenever soda reboots? Or via a cron job? How do we get some of these huge (and quite old) files off the system? \_ It gets cleared when it fills and someone gets bored enough to mail all the people who've forgotten they left their crap there. But, since there's plenty of space there now, why do you care? \_ Some people just are curious. And just because there's plenty of space now doesn't mean there always will be. \_ an issue that will be delt with when it is the case \_ Sloppy sysadmining due to "lots of space" is no excuse. A cron job that wipes files older than X days is trivial. I care because this raises questions about how soda is admin'd in other ways. I don't keep anything important here but soda itself is. \_ you are a moron. --aaron \_ actually a cron job that wipes files older than X days that isn't a massive security hole is far from trivial -tom \_ are you talking about linking files like /etc/passwd into some link in /tmp? \_ chown nobody:nobody /csua/tmp and run cron job as nobody. \_ there are subdirectories. chowning them all is not really an option (and has its own security problems). -tom \_ Uh huh. Because I'm not sloppy? No one would sign something that stupid. You can't be aaron. \_ This just proves it even more --pld \_ You're missing the point of /csua/tmp - stuff is supposed to stay there longer than a couple of days, as long as everyone plays nicely. \_ Having a cron job to wipe files older than X days is just going to make the /csua/tmp diskhosers set up cron jobs to touch their files every X-1 days. It's a stupid idea. -ERic \_ tom can easily figure out how to do it perfectly. \_ tom already pointed out that it is difficult to do properly. get a clue. |
1999/12/6-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17015 Activity:high 66%like:17010 |
12/5 When are soda accounts turned off? \_ The day after finals. \_ Why the _FUCK_ are you asking this on the Soda motd? Cripes, get a cl00. --sowings \_ Have you tried reading the login messages on your class account or <DEAD>www-inst.eecs<DEAD> ? \_ never if you mean "csua.soda" ones, but i think you mean "class" accts. see above. \_ Correction: your soda account can be shut down for various reasons, all of which are in the various policy docs under /csua/share and /csua/adm -- but soda accounts do not have any built-in time limits. -brg \_ You mean my account isn't automatically shutoff when I get enough Twink Points from the Twink God???? \_ No, but Your English sure soundsdumb. Maybe you should English Classes and learn how to writeit??? \_ You're hypocrticalness iz shownig everyne that Your just stupid and my english wuz better then You'rez so you just shutup. In fact, my English was perfect. Please check with your 3rd grade teacher before posting on the motd about someone else's spelling, grammar, or syntax. Thanks. Play again, Yes/no? Insert coin to continue.... |
1999/11/30-12/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16971 Activity:high |
11/31 Right. So basically I went to the ASUC meeting. I'm suppoesd to inform any active csua members that if they are suspicsious of any cult activity of this student group, then there is a Cult Awerness Officer which the CAL/SAS has that will investigate any Cult Activity. There. I've told you. - paolo \_ Dude, my cousin's wedding was in a Clam building. \_ does anyone else see the irony of Sodans talking about cults? \_ No. Please explain. \_ I am a Sodan of the Third Wheel. Are you in need of a Squishing? \_ What is the definition of a cult? Aren't pretty much all religions cults? For example, what would you call a group of people who get together and pretend to drink their ex-leaders blood and eat his body? The same group also think that their current leader talks directly to their God. Would you call this group a Cult or would you call them Catholics? Are the ASUC going to investigate all the religious groups on campus? \_ I would call them orthodox catholic and therefore not a cult. \_ If it's big then it must be true. If it's small it must be a Satan spawned cult until it grows big at which point it must be true. \_ There's one on the corner of Dana and Haste. They call themselves a religious co-op. Co-op my ass. I got invited to dinner by them. They were preaching to me to join their fucked up little world. Damn fools need a beating. They keep following me around on campus. \_ Why would you go to a free dinner at a bible meeting? What the fuck did you think was going to happen? Free sex and drugs? I have zero sympathy for your dumb ass. \_ who said i accepted the dinner you dumbshit? \_ maybe you should with that curse'd tongue of yours-Ma Teresa \_ i used to have a couple freinds there. if you ignore their crazy religious crap, it is actually a very functional co-op. after living in the USCA, i would have to say that except for the religion, the usca could learn alot from them about how to run good student housing at reasonable prices and have everyone actually do their share. this pattern can be seen throughout history: the only people who can make crazy experiments in communal living actually work are religious nuts. eg amana, oneida, the shakers etc. \_ also no hazing. I don't know if a requirement of a knowledge of unix can be classified as hazing (I mean they had some pretty broad definitions in the packet (yes there's a 15 pg packet) all of which are completely subjective (with words like "personal" "degredation" "humiliation"). I suppose then it's good that most people turn off the motd and don't wall because i think that may be classified as hazing. So people, don't haze! \_ I want to be the first to go on record that I tihnk the csua has definate cult activity. Hell, I'll even go so far as to call it Cult Activity. IS the Cult Awareness Officer required to justify his or her capital letters and investigate now? -aspo \_ Arrgghh. Look, I'm _required_ to report to the CAO if any current member suspects cult activity. I don't want to do that. \_ all those capitals! Think of it! What exactly happens if they investigate? -aspo \_ They execute obnoxious assholes like you I think. It was somewhere in the back of the 15 pages. \_ even better -aspo \_ alas no, remember this is berkeley, home of the PC and the "convenience free" zone. So if anything, they'll just make life hard for the csua, alums and undergrads alike, something i don't think anyone here wants. - paolo \_ Nov 31? Nov 30? Are we getting ahead of ourselves? (its Nov 29) \_ When they say, "The plane is on fire, the engine is dead, we're all going to die!" Do you say, "What color is my luggage?" - alum \_ Yes. I like to know that I'm going out in style. \_ Not to mention there is no Nov 31. \_ CalLUG is definitely a cult. I insist you report them immediately Paolo. Maybe that will keep your moronic ass out of our hair. World-Wide Web Access Statistics for the Unification Home Page at <DEAD>www.cais.com<DEAD> [deleted for being totally pointless and context free] |
1999/11/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16897 Activity:high |
11/16 Trevor Buckingham strikes again! ucb.class.cs61c titled "WHAT?". How do we kick him out of the major? He's got to have violated some university policies with those postings. \_ Better to let him stay in the major. He'll be a minor PITA to the professors as he moves through the system, but he'd be a better example on the inside than litigant if thrown out. \_ I read his post which is filled with explitives and insults. Clearly this kind of post is unprofessional and unproductive. However, some of his arguments make sense. Also, when I was taking the the 61 series I thought the tests were poorly written. I find it easy to believe that someone who knows computer science very well could fail to do well on a 61[abc] test. -alum \_ I didn't read his post but anyone babbling expletives on a public university newsgroup reserved for class use should be shot and forgotten. They're doing more harm than good by making others with similar complaint get dismissed out of hand and rightly so. The world isn't fair. Berkeley isn't fair. Shit isn't fair. Tough shit. Deal with it. That's the lesson Berkeley teaches you. It isn't about classes and midterms. -other alum \_ Maybe you learned to be passive and weak at Berkeley, but that doesn't make it Berkeley's "lesson". \_ YA VOL! SIEG HEIL! HEIL! SIEG HEIL! Yes my brother we can begin Das Final Solution! Kill the weak and the jews! \_ No, I learned to pick my battles and how to fight them. Going off like a babbling moron on a class newsgroup isn't being strong and non-passive. It's just plain stupid. There's no other word for it except synonyms for "stupid". Call yourself the mighty slayer of bad tests and a force for change all you like but ranting like a whiney moron child will not change anything and might make it worse. The Berkeley lesson, in part, is how to deal with life. Dealing with life successfully *never* includes childish ranting. Maybe on your planet or in your mind but not on the planet most of us hail from. Nice ad hominen sans backing, btw. What would *you* say the lesson is? That one should make a complete jackass of one's self anytime things don't go entirely one's way? Anyway, 61abc aren't about "knows computer science very well". Until you've gotten into some of the higher level Ugrad and Grad courses, you're not doing computer science; you're just hitting buttons and trying not to get weeded out. \_ For many majors at Berkeley, you're not here to learn. You're just another cow with a number. More often than not, it's just a survival contest. I can fairly say this after grad. school when you tend to really find out the kind of jerks your profesors are. They could care less about your difficulties in class. - bitter alum \_ Bingo. I was staff, not a grad student and all the profs made it pretty clear the undergrads meant nothing and the grad students were just slave labor. Staff was just a tool. At least I had a nice stable low paying job until I woke up. Anyone who thinks Berkeley is about "learning" anything except basic survival is a complete fool. Maybe it's different in some tiny worthless major without any students, but there's a reason they don't have any. \_ I'm curious: how did the profs make it clear? \_ After 3 semesters here, I fail to see what all this flaming is based on. Yes, profs are busy; often too busy to spend countless hours on students -- but where on earth did you get the idea that you're entitled to this? University education never was, and never will be, one on one tutoring. I, for one, can testify to the fact that I'm learning, and learning at the highest rate that _my_ physical limitations allow. That, to me, is a necessary AND sufficient litmus test for what I would call an education. Now PLEASE explain to me (without references to gay sex) why someone would complain. The generic "profs don't give a shit" doesn't cut it, unless you can explain to me why that has hurt your education. -zyqqh |
1999/11/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16857 Activity:nil |
__/~*##$%@@@******~\-__ /f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\ 4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\ /fF./ . /- $$$$$$ \_ * *\ *\R\ (iC.I+ '| - $ ^ L^ $- \ ) ) )|RB (I| ( [ / $ \__/ $ ) /_/ | *)B (I(. \ `` \ $$$$$$ ~__/ )_ .-~ F/ \b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/ ~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/ ~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~ | I I \\ / // i\ \\ ( [ (( I@) ))) ) \_\_VYVU_/ || * | | * *\ /* /I\ *~~\ /~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\ ____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___ MOTD NUKED HAVE A NICE DAY __/~*##$%@@@******~\-__ /f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\ 4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\ /fF./ . /- /' /|/| \_ * *\ *\R\ (iC.I+ '| - *-/00 |- \ ) ) )|RB (I| ( [ / -|/^^\ | ) /_/ | *)B (I(. \ `` \ \m_m_|~__/ )_ .-~ F/ \b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/ ~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/ ~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~ | I I \\ / // i\ \\ ( [ (( I@) ))) ) \_\_VYVU_/ || * | | * *\ /* /I\ *~~\ /~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\ ____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___ |
1999/10/24-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16759 Activity:low |
10/23 Opportunities in SoCal for computer saavy people with Library interest/experience (the kind with books in it, not the kind you link into a program): see /csua/pub/jobs/RiversideLibrary --dbushong \_ Uh, MS in Library Science? You gotta be kidding... \_ No. MS in LS in hardcore. I'm *sure* _you_ couldn't earn one. LS isn't about the Dewey Decimal system BS you learned in 1st grade. \_ No one is putting down MS in LS - but I doubt you'll find anyone on soda other than cynthia who has one and I doubt she wants to move to riverside after just buying a house up here. \_ College of Engineering is superior over ANY college in Berkeley. ENGINEERING REWLS, YOU ALL SUCK!!! \_ And knowledge of English is obviously not required to get into Engineering. \_ knowledge of english is overrated --pld \_ Fuck English, speak PERL! \_ Me fresh off boat make big engineer bucks, go back China make China strong, beat evil America into dirt! \_ If "Engineering is superior over ANY college in Berkeley" then is it "superior over" (love that grammar) itself or has it seceded from the University and moved out of Berkeley? You make no sense. |
1999/10/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16746 Activity:very high |
10/21 Hypothetical question: If you replaced /etc/motd.public with a core file can you get sorried? __/~*##$%@@@******~\-__ /f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\ 4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\ /fF./ . /- /' /|/| \_ * *\ *\R\ (iC.I+ '| - *-/00 |- \ ) ) )|RB (I| ( [ / -|/^^\ | ) /_/ | *)B (I(. \ `` \ \m_m_|~__/ )_ .-~ F/ \b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/ ~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/ ~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~ | I I \\ / // i\ \\ ( [ (( I@) ))) ) \_\_VYVU_/ || * | | * *\ /* /I\ *~~\ /~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\ ____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___ \_ Nuclear launch detected. \_ Is there a way to replace segmentation fault message with this ascii pic? \_ yes. \_ Ask yourself: is a core file a useful and informative message of the day? Does it add value to anyone's soda experience? Or is it just a desperate act of a squishable little prick? This isn't a hypothetical question. It's a rhetorical question. \_ By that definition, everyone should've been squished by now. Of course, some things are more squishable than others. \_ There's a huge difference between someone adding content you think has zero quality and someone linking a binary which has zero quality for everyone including the poster. Only someone far too stupid to edit the motd would believe a binary has content value to anyone. It's rhetorical. __/~*##$%@@@******~\-__ /f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\ 4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\ /fF./ . /- /' /|/| \_ * *\ *\R\ ~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~ | I I \\ (iC.I+ '| - *-/00 |- \ ) ) )|RB (I| ( [ / -|/^^\ | ) /_/ | *)B (I(. \ `` \ \m_m_|~__/ )_ .-~ F/ \b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/ | * *\ /* /I\ *~~\ ~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/ ____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___ ~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~ You know, wee totoro | I I \\ do not appreciate this. / // i\ \\ ( [ (( I@) ))) ) / \_\_VYVU_/ || * | |\|\ /* /I\ *~~\ | OO\ /~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\ | /^^\| ____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___ |_m_m/ \_ Nuclear launch detected. \_ Is there a way to replace segmentation fault message with this ascii pic? \_ yes. \_ signal(SIGSEGV, printnuke()); |
1999/10/1-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16645 Activity:moderate |
9/30 Accidentally typed pin instead of pine. What exactly does it do? no man pages available. \_ It's a stupid csua annoyance for anyone who typos any of several common commands that start with 'pin' such as ping and pine. It might also possibly mark you as a pinhead to the low grade morons who write such crap and stick it in default path location. Maybe they find it funny. Maybe they find yermom jokes funny, too. Maybe they think it gives the csua character or something. I dunno. \_ Check out http://www.dinkumware.com \_ Dikumware releases only the STL, no hash_table. I know they provide an STL implementation, so they may provide /csua/bin/pin believe they're free source though. -dans \_ Dikumware releases only the STL, no hash_table. soda ~ > which pin \_ Thats Viviana, dumbass. Go see Admiral Krag. soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/pin \_ no, it's Vyvvian you bastard, Go see Neil Edmondson in "The Young Ones" -rwxr-xr-x 1 danh contrib 102 Sep 16 20:09 /csua/bin/wal* lrwxrwxrwx 1 danh contrib 3 Sep 14 16:29 /csua/bin/pin@ -> wal \_ "Why do I always have to cook the lentils?" \_ It marks you forever as a pinhead. now Script munged motd blasted. Thank you for playing. soda ~ > file /csua/bin/wal /csua/bin/wal: ASCII text soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/wal \_ Should add: Turkey earthquake: 7.6, killed 15,000 people. /csua/bin/wall y 2>&1 > /dev/null /csua/bin/wal: ASCII text \_ soda ~ > cat /csua/bin/wal soda ~ > which pin /usr/games/fortune /csua/lib/olestra/ll-lyrics.txt | /csua/bin/wall \_ which is a long way of saying 'you are forever identified as a pinhead' \_ what is /csua/bin/rootshell? It seems to be a perl script SIUD root. \_ in case no one spelled out it for you, read the fucking source. \_ Source? It's a stupid 2 line script. I wouldn't call that 'source'. It isn't even smart enough to check your current wall status and set it back if you're not normally reading the wall. It's a stupid hyuck hyuck moron script. soda ~ > file /csua/bin/wal /csua/bin/wal: ASCII text /csua/bin/pin lrwxrwxrwx 1 danh contrib 3 Sep 14 16:29 /csua/bin/pin@ -> wal soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/pin soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/wal -rwxr-xr-x 1 danh contrib 102 Sep 16 20:09 /csua/bin/wal* soda ~ > cat /csua/bin/wal /usr/games/fortune /csua/lib/olestra/ll-lyrics.txt | /csua/bin/wall /csua/bin/wall y 2>&1 > /dev/null |
1999/9/27-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16607 Activity:high |
9/27 When's the next pburo meeting? The web's info is two weeks stale! \_ shut the fuck UP, cmlee. -tom \_ shut the fuck UP, tom. -!cmlee \_ I see nothing wrong with people wanting to get involved and asking when the next meeting is. Tom has forgotten this isn't his personal playpen and some of us want to be a part of something bigger than tom's wall rants and motd noise. \_ SHUT THE FUCK UP, CMLEE \_ Uh, *not* cmlee. Cmlee isn't the only person Tom has problems with. In fact, Tom has deep seated and very generalized socialization problems which are far worse than his idiotic spat with cmlee. Tom, seek help. I suggest something simple at first such as, "How to win friends and influence people". You won't win any friends with it, but maybe you'll see why you're so unlikable. \_ you mean "how to win friends who are complete fucking morons like this asshole who's too much of a fucking wimp to sign his name to his insults, and influence idiots who make psychological diagnoses about people they've never met." -tom \_ I'd go with "How to talk dirty and influence people" I'm sure it is a much better read. -aspo \_ I'm sure you would. \_ wall != csua != politburo. Those interested in the piddly dealings of politburo can go away. \_ Uhm... ok whatever. So the csua motd isn't a good place to ask about the timing of the csua politburo meeting? Where can I get some of whatever you're smoking? |
1999/9/24-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16590 Activity:kinda low |
9/24 CSUA meeting @ Gold Club in SF. Bring small bills. \_ but yermom wanted something bigger than a five. \_ small meaning 20's. |
1999/9/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16578 Activity:nil 50%like:17105 80%like:17573 50%like:17580 |
1/1 Motd nuked! \_ good job |
1999/9/14 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16517 Activity:high |
9/14 What the fuck is wrong with you idiots? Really, what's up? Where you dropped as children? I really wanna know. \_ Berkeley Rose Garden, GGP. But I only started dropping recently. \_ the line for yermom is getting really long and we're all cranky \_ there are three or four little boys on soda, being protected by anonymity, feel free to act out |
1999/9/8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16483 Activity:insanely high |
9/8 lwall censorship: oh dear god, grow up, who cares? this is so incredibly stupid. this is one of the better politburo's the csua has seen and you want them to resign over some stupid crap about your moron buddy getting his hand slapped for being an ass? go away. -never been on politburo because doesn't want to deal with selfish morons like you \_ This is strictly a censorship issue. Is it in the best interest of the CSUA to censor an individual based strictly on that person's opinions? Without notify any interested parties? If you have an opinion on this issue, I urge you to show up at the politburo meeting this Monday. -- nickkral person's opinions? Without notify any interested parties that such an action was going to take place? If you have an opinion on this issue, I urge you to show up at the politburo meeting this Monday. -- nickkral \_ well, it's more like he's already squished -- nickkral \_ Let democracy work its course. If someone can drum up enough support to override politburo (yeah right, as if kchang has that many friends left), let them. Otherwise shut the heck up. \_ The politburo should ensure that public CSUA resources are made available without fear of censorship or root punishment. Arbritrary censorship actions by the politburo damage \_ well, it's more like he's already squished the CSUA in the long term. -- nickkral \_ kchang must be laughing at the ruckus he's causing. \_ kchang wrote me and said he is happy at the ruckus he is causing |
1999/9/8-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16481 Activity:high |
9/8 Next Politburo Meeting is Monday, Sept 13th, 7:00 pm, 337 Soda. You are invited to discuss lwall censorship. Is censoring lwall an appropriate action for the politburo? You decide. -- nickkral \_ is calling nickkral an idiot an approriate action? shit yeah. -tom \_ So we can buy beers for the politburo that squished kchang off lwall? I'm so there! \_ Yes. Now fuck off. I've decided. Thanks for the opportunity. \_ quit being a dick Tom. And sign your motd entry. \_ why don't you, nickkral? -tom \_ I'm not Tom and the lwall non-issue is stupid. Go fuck yourself. -not tom \_ oh yes you are..you major fucking twink. \_ Not only am I not tom, I actively dislike tom b/c he's an overly self important asshole, like you. \_ tom always signs. #1 Tom Fan!!! \_ What's "troller"? Thanks. \_ You're a troller. |
1999/9/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16472 Activity:very high |
9/5 Welcome to http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu. Property of the ASUC. The CSUA reserves the right to act like total jackasses. \_ Quick logical inference for ya: Only people with soda accounts can post to soda's motd. All people with soda accounts are CSUA members. Therefore, YOU are a CSUA member. This is where it gets a little uncertain, are you calling yourself a jackass, or simply reserving your right to be one? Tell ya what, let's drop the issue entirely, I'll just call ya a twink. \_ Dude, everyone in Berkeley is a total jackass. What's your point? \_ fuck off nickkral and sign yer name. ---lwall \_ I didn't write any of this. -- nickkral \_ and so? This machine is not property of the ASUC. get your facts straight kralebitch. \_ Who do you think owns it? Who do you think issued the donation receipts for all the alums who donated? \_ well, not that I myself would know anything, but ASUC officials have confirmed several times in the past that as far as they are concerned, soda.csua and it's brethren are for the CSUA to do with as the CSUA pleases as long as we abide by the usual campus regulations about our constitution and using it for commercial (as opposed to fund raising) activity and the like. Who do you think owns the OCF machines or the CalLUG machines? It's a CSUA machine through and through. --Jon Oh and sign your name twink. \_ Legally the ASUC owns the OCF machines, which is why we engrave them "Property of the ASUC." No, the ASUC isn't going to take them away, but they could if they wanted to. -alan- \_ The csua cant own anything. They don't exist as a legal entitry. Wrong again twink-boy! The CSUA as a legal entity _/ (with a bank account, etc.) predates ASUC! \_ Who cares? Why do any of you give a shit? -apathetic \_ The CSUA incorporated? Just because some twink opened an account with their SSN and the CSUA's name, does not make the CSUA a legal entity. \_ CSUA UBER ALLES! HKN IST CSUA! ASUC IST CSUA! CS DEPT IST CSUA!! UCSEE IST CSUA! LIEBENSCRAUM! HEUTE DIE WELT, MONNEN DAS SONNENSYSTEM! SIEG HEIL! HEIL CSUA! HEIL MIKEH! - nickkral \_ It's "liebensraum", du Quatschkoph. --Jon |
1999/8/30-9/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Computer/SW/Security] UID:16435 Activity:high |
8/30 Is there any possibility that politburo will reconsider their policy concerning ftp? Too, we are unable to understand why POP3 access is ok \_ shut up, ikiru whereas those of us who have a tough time comprehending s/key ftp have to suffer. Plain text passwds are sent willy nilly via pop are they not? \_ Before you can begin to expect consistent policy from CSUA leadership, you need to exhibit consistent policy with your margins in the motd \_ The real answer is that since this is all done on a voluntary basis, they don't have time to lock down everything at once. Your gripe that you're being unfairly treated while pop folks are somehow allowed to continue violating basic security concepts is ill conceived. Expect that in time *all* of the incredibly lame services including pop will be either secured or disabled in time. services including pop will be either secured or disabled. If the csua was run by full time staff getting paid to do so, I'm sure this would have happened a long time ago. kudos to root and any of root's elves who helped for putting in the time required and biting the bullet from the whiners with zero security clue. \_ Mikeh and the rest of root staff rock! off POP3 for the foreseeable future (> 1 year). Turning off POP3 \_ POP3 is cleartext; there will be no solution other than turning off POP3 for the foreseeable future (> 1 year). \_ APOP is trivial to implement, and not cleartext. -tom \_ does APOP work with everyone's favorite GUI mail reader, or will they be bombarding root@csua with "My Outlook 95 doesn't work anymore? Is e-mail b0rken?" My assumption was that widespread conformance to encrypted POP won't happen in < 1 year. In regards to threads below, I eventually foresee turning off POP3, turning on APOP, and sending a mass e-mail to all CSUA members informing them of this and pine|elm|etc. and .forward. Turning off POP3 \_ no, ED IS! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD! answer would piss enough people off of anything I can imagine. POP3 cleartext is THE way to sniff pw's. S/Key and ssh are a) steps in the right direction, and b) get the userbase accustomed to security annoyances. The reasoning is suspect, but for me it's not something to put up a fight about since I believe I understand the pros and cons. I look forward to non-availability of POP3 script-kiddie port sniffers. -non-Politburo sodan \_ Tough shit for the whining pop3 masses. Let them forward their mail or read it locally. I don't want to see soda broken into because some pop twits are too lazy to do the right thing. \_ then get off YOUR lazy ass and find an alternative. Oh, and PINE is not the answer. \_ *I* don't have a security problem reading my mail. If you're one of those whining security clueless pop users, the problem is yours, not mine. *You* need to find an answer, not me. Go look at APOP if you simply *must* use soda as your mail server. I'm not lazy at all. I already solved this problem for myself years ago, thanks. \_ Then when i crack your account by sniffing your passwd and then bring down the internet with my elite hacking and the blame all falls on you, ! H0P3 U $+!lL (@N Sl33P @ |\|!6H+... \_ D00d, th@t p05t3r uz3z 55H! U l00z3! \_ ED ED IS THE STANDARD! \_ install unix it will cure cancer and bring you the magical mystical gold at the end of the rainbow \_ No, idiot. You can't sniff my password. My pw never goes out in clear text. You won't be cracking my pw anytime soon. It's *your* password I don't want cracked. |
1999/8/29-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16425 Activity:high |
8/28 Every once in a while, emails in my pine that come from @csua people have "holes" in them. That is, in the inbox listing, there are blanks where there would normally be the from, subject, size, etc. info. But the actual email content is still there. Help! What's going on? \_ The problem is you're using the wrong mail client. \_ ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD! MAIL READER! \_ /bin/cat $MAIL \_ ~tmonroe/bin/one-true-mail-reader \_ ~tmonroe/bin/<*CENSORED*> \_ Get a life. that's ~tmonroe/bin/one-true-mail-reader that's ~tmonroe/bin/<*CENSORED*> PO Box 9452 Golden, CO 57643 \_ NO! - defender of newbies [dangerous bullshit deleted. it was cruel and stupid to post it in the first place. yes, I plan to keep deleting this until this entire thread is removed by others.] \_newbies, don't try this. whoever wrote that line is malicious and should be ashamed of him/her/itself. \_ anyone who tries a command line posted to the motd without finding out what it does first deserves whatever they get. \_ no. this is what being a newbie is all about. by their nature as newbie's, they don't know any better. this is a perfectly appropriate warning. you need to dump the 'tude. \_ the person who put the evil command in the motd is laughing at you now \_ I wonder if this is related to the thing where email with the return address of http://csua.berkeley.edu is changed to http://CSUA.Berkeley.EDU somewhere after the message is sent? \_ uh, no. |
1999/8/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16381 Activity:nil 50%like:17550 |
8/23 Troll about deleting trolls deleted. Thank you for playing. |
1999/8/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16379 Activity:nil |
8/23 Why are we asking technical and personal questions on motd? Do they relate to CSUA? No. We should implement a law delete all trolls not related to CSUA. |
1999/8/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16358 Activity:moderate |
8/21 sodomize kchang. \_ been there, done that. |
1999/7/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16088 Activity:nil |
You delete my troll, I delete all trolls. Damn, that was a good motd goin' on there. \_ This is eeriely reminiscent of kchang behaviour coupla years ago. |
1999/5/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15845 Activity:high |
5/19 dwallach is now an assistant professor at rice? kewl. How about a list of former-CSUA members and what they're doing now. [if you're a l0ser ex-CSUA member please do not troll this list]. \_ the thing about former-CSUA members that you're missing is that they are not CSUA members anymore, which means they dont post to the motd. duh. \_ glass microserf \_ psb still here, still not graduated \_ yeah, but psb is hardly former-CSUA. The guy is still around. And !psb is alive and well at elections. \_ philb sysadmin at a fortune 500 company \_ yermom anything with a pulse \_ whatever happened to adam? \_ Which adam? glass? richter? diran? \_ adam richter. login:adam \_ Still sleeping with Pete Shipley. \_ Is yggdrasil officially dead? |
1999/5/12-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15799 Activity:low |
5/11 BERKELEY (Reuters) - Some idiot keeps flame baiting in the MOTD. \_ No way? Political, religious, ethnic, sexist, and generally offensive flame bait on the motd! Say it isn't so! \_ I didn't know Reuters practice censorship. \_ shut the fuck up, cmlee |
1999/5/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15746 Activity:high |
5/4 Soda Censorship |
1999/3/17-18 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Finance/Investment, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15601 Activity:low |
3/17 Or, as babelfish translates the motd.official: The soda is not for warezhosen or mailspammen. Is easy pissenoffen the rooten and overloaden barrier all with those fuck youen and those yer momen. Is not for trades with the majorfuckentwinken. Diskhoggen pornseeren keepen that bandwit trousers hands in pockets must. Relaxen and watchen that barrier Flemings. --dbushong \_ geek \_ No, geek is Eugene Kim |
1999/3/11 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15580 Activity:high 66%like:15562 |
3/11 Asshole anti-anti-censor's ""troll deleted" troll deleted" deleted. \_ When they were talking about "nurturing your inner child" they didn't mean all the time. Grow up. |
1999/3/6 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15553 Activity:moderate 66%like:14977 75%like:15207 |
3/4 generic "troll deleted, -tom" \_ This should just be part of the motd update script. It should just insert a few "Troll delete. -tom" messages at random to make him feel big. |
1999/3/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15549 Activity:nil |
3/5 All the moronic "Troll delete" nonsense purged. If you feel the need to delete something, just fucking do it. Don't wave your penis around and take your ball home after screaming, "I delete the troll! Nyah!" No one knows wtf you deleted so you're just making the motd as hard to read as the so-called trolls. \_ The troll knows. |
1999/3/5-5/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Aspolito] UID:15548 Activity:very high |
5/14 Generic Troll -John \_ generic beer \_ Generic yermom response \_ generic response whining in insulting terms about trolls! \_ generic inclusion of references to generic soda "babe" \_ generic rejoinder that those looking for babes on soda (of either sex) are looking in the wrong place. \_ generic personal testimony about random soda user's qualifications to be listed as a "babe" \_ Generic "You dont do things the way I do hence you are an idiot and please dont post until you see that I am superior" post. -generic lack of signing \_ generic off-topic flame having to do with the previous poster's ability to configure some kind of software or understanding of the computer industry -signed in a way that has no relation to my login or real name \_ Generic "Fucking geek! *Real* people don't have to talk about computers all the time in an effort to show their superiority! When are you going to get a life, loser?" response from some loser English-major type who's trying to imply (even though he somehow got a soda account and is posting to the MOTD) that he's morally superior, has a life, and is non-geekly \_ insulting comments about relative salaries of tech and non-tech fields...overuse of "fuck" and "twink". \_ Generic comment on indifference to this thread - generic tom \- Generic intellectual comment by partha. -generic psb \_ Generic flame about partha and his responses. \_ Generic psb is god response. Do not taunt the psb. psb is da man. -generic psb #1 fan \_ non generic comment about bleeding assholes - aspo \_ Generic flame about how *nix is better than windows and you're an idiot for using M$ products. My dick is bigger than your dick kind of flame. \_ generic reply how this is the real world and you should get a clue. \_ Bill Gates and M$ is compared to Hitler and the Nazis. \_ All argument is over once Hitler is mentioned. \_ not the argument, just any useful content. \_ as opposed to the rest of this thread \_ G3N3R1K B1FF1ZM, D00D!!!!!1!!!!1! B1FF RUL3Z, 1N A G3N3RUL S0RT UV WAY!!!1!! \_ Generic comments about money, working out, and breasts. -ax |
1999/1/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15258 Activity:nil 75%like:15257 |
1/19 Censorship reversed. Get a [censored] life. |
1999/1/19-29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15254 Activity:nil |
1/18 Trolls deleted. |
1999/1/15-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15237 Activity:moderate |
1/13 tpipe installed in /csua/bin for your fun and enjoyment --jon \_ what is that? \_ read the fucking manpage \_ % man tpipe % No manual entry for tpipe You elitist fuck! \_ it's there. yer manpath has problems. \_ hint: /xx/yy/bin -> /xx/yy/man \_ what's the difference between /csua/bin and /usr/local/bin? |
1998/12/18 [Recreation/Computer/Games, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15124 Activity:insanely high 80%like:14247 80%like:15861 |
12/17 Shut the fuck up, cmlee. \_ this is grown tedius. Both of you toms shut the heck up. \_ Children's games are always tedius CUZ OF YOU. I CAN"T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!1!!! YOU HAPPY NOW??? - CM1LE \_ Children's games are always tedius. So are their temper tantums, personal motd flame wars of no interest to anyone, and their heavy handed censorship of anything not of direct personal interest. -jake \_ jake, please get tom off my back. btw, he is a ucb sysadmin. -- cm1ee, very distressed. \_ ALIRHGT TOM, YOU WIN< YOU MOTHERFUCKER> I AM QUITTING CSUA CUZ OF YOU. I CAN"T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!1!!! YOU HAPPY NOW??? - CM1EE \_ hey I never knew cmlee was B1FF!!!1!! |
1998/12/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15115 Activity:nil |
12/16 Tom, maybe you should consider just biting the bullet and cease deleting what you consider trolls so this whole issue can just die? Maybe you've noticed that the bulk of noise on the motd is related to your troll deletion; far more noise than the trolls themselves. I think this is a case of the cure being worse than the illness. |
1998/11/19-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14977 Activity:nil 66%like:14434 66%like:15553 57%like:15562 |
11/18 troll deleted |
1998/10/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14826 Activity:high |
10/25 Can someone explain why after trying to exterminate these no good American Indians that took **our** land, we are now giving them a chance to get rich w/ the stupid Indian Casinos? Why do we give a danh about their self reliance? \_ what does danh have to do with this? \_ "If you have to ask..." \_ what does danh have to do with this? \_ This is the most odd troll I've seen in months. Indians took what land from who? You're broken. Seek help, troll. \_ um, it's not a troll. it's called "sarcasm". look it up. \_ What part of "sovereign nation" don't you understand? - danh \_ I know what sarcasm is. Racism and other forms of stupidity and hatred are so common on the motd I figured this was just one more. This wasn't sarcasm. |
1998/10/14-1999/5/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14773 Activity:moderate 57%like:15562 |
12/15 Troll deleted. \_Very nice - you CS major you :) \_ Troll deleted II. \_ Why do you delete my opinions? \_ I don't delete your opinions, I delete your trolls. \_ hey , I didn't get to read the troll & flame him (ok 1% chance her) But it is correct English to use "him" _____/ \_ put it back you twink.i want to read it. \_ I tell you what, I don't like anonymous censors even more. -jctwu \_ jctwu needs to be sodomized. \_ I don't know what to say, other than if there are ppl that reasonlessly trash mogul and like every other innocent post on the motd, there is somebody who would say "jctwu needs to be sodomized". -jctwu \_ mogul is too powerful, and we fear him \_ Thanks Tom! I'm that much safer now! My mind is clear of unpure thoughts! \_ if you delete all the trolls, the motd will be empty! \_ If trolls are made illegal, then only criminals will troll. \_ in many cases, that would be an improvement. \_ turn off brain, go to sleep. Life without conflict is death. \_ again?? \_ yes, amazing that the idiot keeps putting his stupid troll back. \_ Why do you care that anyone trolls the motd? If morons didn't take the bait every god damned time, there'd be no trolls. |
1998/9/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14679 Activity:high |
9/25 Today's edition of Famous People Sorried on the CSUA: wjolitz:*:2265:100:William F. Jolitz:/home/w/wjolitz:/csua/adm/bin/sorry \_ How did that happen? \_ years ago \_ How did that happen? \_ None of your business. grep sorry /etc/passwd | wc -l 188 \_That's a lot of people to be squished. What did they do? \_ Asked too many stupid questions invading other's privacy. (In other words: NONE OF YOUR FUCKING NOSY BUSINESS.) |
1998/9/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14669 Activity:very high |
9/26 Just a quick update announcement: tom still has no penis. thanks \_ shut up, shin. -tom \_ what are you going to do - release the hounds? or the bees? or the hounds that shoot bees when they bark? well, go ahead. \_ shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake your booty, shake your booty. \_ I'm not going to do anything, except expose you for the censoring coward that you are. Of course other people have been squished for continually munging the MOTD. -tom \_ You geek, that was an allusion to the Simpsons. \_ How can a person be "squished" for doing anything to the MOTD? \_ chsh <user> /usr/local/bin/sorry grep sorry /etc/passwd | wc -l 188 \_That's a lot of people to be squished. What did they do? \_ That's /csua/adm/bin/sorry, fool. --root \_ what is this program? all i got was a message saying my account was turned off. \_ you think that message magically appeared? the sorry program shows you a message \_ Another quick update; shin is still a fucking coward, not to mention an immature loser (penis jokes?) -tom telling you why go to away and then sends you away. moron. \_ This the reason kchang got (thankfully) sorried? \_ none of your business \_ There needs to be a motd.rant and a motd.help or some other breakdown of motd.public \_ Does that matter to you? -shin \_ motd.fuck.you \_ Oh well, I can always use OCF... -shin \_ only for now, OCF accounts go away after you graduate, CSUA ones don't \_ That's why I wanna have my WWW page on CSUA. So that she will be able to keep in touch with me after my graduation. \_ she? \_ CSUA is a Penis-Free Zone. \_ Therefore is Babe-Free Zone \_ Nah - we've got a nice collection of lesbian babes. \_ Wannabe-pseudo-college-lesbians. Not real lesbians. More like "lesbian for the week". \_ that makes them way hotter. "real" lesbians are psycho-millitant freaks. The wannabes are just going through a "sexual awakening" \_ Or maybe they're just claiming to be lesbians to keep away the pathetically desperate geeks who troll around here. \_ No way. Experimental college "lesbians" are a big turn on. I troll for lesbians. |
1998/9/4-5 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14542 Activity:moderate |
9/3 Boredcast Message from soda!lwall () at 16:22 ... From: kchang@autobahn.org psb: your coworkers asian stupid "oh psb immigrants THE MAN! He knows Greek mythology asian stupid lila. He immigrants god." \_ Was there an English phrase in there? \_ Who cares about English. Was there ANYTHING comprehensible in any language in there. \_ Oh lord that was fun. Squish me now, I've had my fun. \_ SHUT UP AARON \_ heheh.. foolish, arrogant mortal. |
1998/9/2-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14536 Activity:high |
9/2 Anyone up for Ice Skating tomorrow (thursday) evening? If so, meet at Berkeley Iceland at ~7:30. Open hours are from 7:30-10:30. Price (with rental) is $5.00 with student ID, $7.50 without. -nweaver \_ whats the occasion? \_ She did yermom and yersis and wants to share his experiences \_ I'd like to see a TV ad for Geeks on Ice. \-give blood, play broomball. --psb \_ I gave blood and went running. Close enough? -PeterM \_ You all missed out. 2 soda people, 4 non-soda people, 3 male, 3 female. --PeterM \_ Interesting way of counting. --alawrenc \_ so, 1 non-soda male? \_ By definition, there are no "soda females". \_ Being a soda female, I beg to differ. \_ You can beg. It won't change cold hard reality. \_ Soda females, yes. Soda babes, no. \_ Take some basic anatomy classes and try again. Thank you for playing. \_ last time i checked, i was pretty darned female... -lila \_ hang on a minute, let *me* check... \_ I've checked. "She" is wrong. |
1998/9/1-3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14533 Activity:high |
9/1 Check out famous CSUA alumnus Bret "mogul" Mogilefsky on page 19 of this month's California Monthly. \_ Cool! Where do I get my copy!? -mogul \_ What does this dude do again? \_ Play with sock monkeys and hit old machines with the csua bat. -John \_ He's the little known right hand man to George Lucas, the "mogul" of LucasArts (hence the nickname). \_ I wish! I'm the lead programmer on the game Grim Fandango. -mogul \_ When's it coming out? Looks fucking badass from the previews I've seen \_ sorry, but 'mogul' predates his lucasarts employment \_ I only attended one meeting, and after seeing a white guy swinging a bat around menacingly, that was my last. \_ Racist prick. If it was some nigger with a bat, that'd be ok? \_ Sheesh, I was kidding. But now I hope I offended you and only you. \_ I too am deeply offended that you chose not to participate in the CSUA due to the organization's President being Caucasian. There is no place for such racism in this organization. Please go fuck yourself with a splintery broom. -Offended Whitey \_ "Cerebrally ambidextrous." Man, it's so easy to impress the yokels. -mogul |
1998/7/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14293 Activity:moderate 80%like:13761 |
7/7 MOTD nuker nuked -- The Evil 4am MOTD Nuker Nuker What Nukes the Midnight MOTD Nuker at 4am \_ Uhm, yeah, whatever. This is fucking stupid. \_ yo mama |
1998/6/10-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14195 Activity:nil 66%like:14335 |
6/10 Trolls SUCK. \_ I like trolls. What do you have against short people? Don't forget about all the good things they do for us, like the time that the Seven Trolls saved Snow White from the wicked witch . . . \_ so you like jsl? |
1998/5/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14145 Activity:moderate |
5/27 Do people REALLY have to post such stupid trolls? \_ Yes, because it makes people like you reply which is the whole point of trolling. Think of it as a fishing expedition. \_ No. Fishing you catch fish. Trolling you catch trolls. -John \_ deleting a troll isn't responding to it. \_ Sure it is. I love seeing that people have taken the time and effort to delete my trolls. -troll \_ takes less time than creating them. |
1998/5/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14092 Activity:kinda low |
5/13 To the person erased all the messages yesterday-- because you are so hotheaded that you think your opinion weighs more than ours, NO MESSAGE WILL BE POSTED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I rather die than to be controlled by a Soda naxi censorer. \_ What's a naxi? And if your life is so pathetic that you're going to spend all day monitoring the motd, maybe you _should_ die. \_ So you are going to become the Soda naxi censorer yourself. \_ One message, and three responses so far! You're slipping! \_ Still, why don't people delete things FIFO, rather than purging the whole thing? (Four responses.) \_ bah fuk you all i say nuke it every once in a while.. -shac \_ Poopyhead. |
1998/4/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:13983 Activity:nil 80%like:13761 |
04/18 way outdated motd nuked \_OH MY GOD! THEY KILLED THE MOTD!! YOU BASTARDS! |
1998/4/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:13934 Activity:nil |
4/10 ASUC is an anagram for CSUA. The top ten similarities between the two are... 10. Top 10 lists are really stupid. 9. Each organization contains innumerable people who think that Scott Bonds is a twink. 8. Neither organization is making money off of the ASUC store. |
1998/3/24-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13855 Activity:moderate |
3/24 Obligatory monthly request for decent ISP. I'm in San Ramon. I'd like a decent 33.6 connection. I don't care about web space, shell access, etc. I just want clean net to Berkeley and the rest of the world. A few bucks this way or that isn't important. \_check out LanMinds (<DEAD>www.lanminds.com)--they're<DEAD> quite good. (And their dialup number in San Ramon is 510-557-0601.) --icrew LanMinds sucks!!!!!!!! took like THREE F*CKING days to get our ISDN connection back up after that power outage last month and when we first got our ISDN connection, we asked them what our SPID was and they said "What's that?" \_ You will NEVER get a clean connection to Berkeley due to Sprintnet. Get a clue, STUPID. \_ uh, I ftp from soda at over a hundred kb/sec. Seems pretty clean to me. -- <DEAD>Mr.way-outside-of-berkeley.edu<DEAD>-domain \_ But isn't it FUN to use AGGRESSIVE CAPITALIZATION and call people STUPID, especially when you're being ANONYMOUS???!??? I LOVE the SODA MOTD!!!! \_ just a few bad apples set the tone for the motd. we will nice them to death!! \_ Be quiet rachel \_ Hmmm.. ok, service sucks but is the net connection good otherwise? \_ It would be, except they're clueless idiots and ended up actually slowing down their net connection through incompetence. \_ Implying that incompetence might have sped it up? -pld |
1998/3/5-6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:13762 Activity:insanely high |
3/05 I would like to vote for a "no porn" policy on the CSUA web site. The situation is simply getting too ridiculous; not to even mention that it may be violating some UCB policy. I propose that we all porn pages off to OCF if they can host them and leave CSUA to be used for more important things. THank YOu. -A very concerned CSUA member/parent \_ Show us what UCB policy is being violated, or for that matter what CSUA policy. And define "porn." -tom \_ I'm not your kids' parent. Deal with it. It doesn't take a village to raise a child. It takes parents. Real parents. You seriously believe that removing art from the CSUA's web site will keep Johnny from seeing nekkig girlz on the web? \_ If you want this done, propose it at the next politburo meeting. If enough members vote for it, it will become the law. \_ Yep, and who gets squicked when non-porn gets removed or you fail to police "real" porn and someone's kid sees it? Let it be. \_ No such UCB policy exists. In fact, this is a really really bad idea because now you're trying to decide what's porn and not and the "I can't define it, but I know what it is when I see it" method doesn't hold water. Also, you're talking about possible infringement of first amendment rights. I *strongly* suggest the CSUA ignores all the porn. If you want a disk space policy, that's a different matter, but you're looking for trouble when you filter by content. At my site we don't do *any* sort of anything like this. Until there's a serious legal problem, just leave it alone. I suggest this concerned parent watch what their kids are doing on the computer. It is your responsibility to take care of your kids, not the CSUA's or any other computer organisation. Try NetNanny or something if it bothers you so much. -A very concerned member \_ Look, I'm as much in favor of a good yank as the next guy, maybe even more, but I think a no porn policy might be good. It's not an infringement of the first amendment, any more than, say, the Chronicle refusing to print porn is. It's honestly mostly a matter of bandwidth - the CSUA has had a lot of problems with porn getting too many hits, and there's no reason to believe that'll stop. As \_ So the problem is number of hits, not that it's porn. Therefore, censorship solves the wrong problem and the correct solution is either per-user hit limits or hacking the httpd/kernel to assign scheduling tickets for user pages out of the user's pool so if one user gets lots of hits it only hoses them. -alanc- far as what's porn and what isn't, that's a hard decision sometimes;es, but it's fairly reasonable to say that it can be judged on a case-by-case basis (like everyothing else in this \_ Really? You plan to personally view all 5000 gifs I intend to make available on a weekly rotating basis? crazy, shiftless world). Or, another way of doing it is saying that any content that generates a certain level of bandwidth should require approval beforehand. The question isn't whether \_ One man's porn is another man's art. Are we using my standards or yours? I'm surprised to see such right wing control oriented fascism coming from you, Ted. Where have the barefoot days gone? porn is bad - it's whether CSUA should shell out the bucks to host it. -thepro \_ The problem is CSUA bucks come via mandatory student fees and are therefore bound by all sorts of University & ASUC regulations. If the CSUA decides to exercise editorial control over web pages it causes many more problems than not doing so. (Not that the CSUA spends any bucks on web serving - the machine was donated and the net is paid for by the University.) \_ THANK YOU! This is the point I failed to make earlier. -first to say leave it alone. \_ Oh pull that dildo out of your ass and shut the fuck up. If keep your kid from viewing porn if it bothers you. Don't make the rest of the world do your work for you. -aspo \_ Bitch, shut the fuck up. You stole my man bitch, I'm taking you on Springer. Bitch!!! |
1998/3/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13761 Activity:very high 80%like:14293 80%like:13983 |
03/04 motd nuked \_ Awaiting the fallout... \_ Cool! - #1 Motd Anti-Fan \_ If you were with it, you know that you can't combine fandom, a positive, with anti-anything, a negative. \_ This makes absolutely no logical sense. \_ Obviously you're not with it. End of story. \_ Bastard [...] \_ try again. --#2 psb fan \_ aw, I missed it. What'd he say? -psb #1 Fan \-yeah, what did i say? --OTPSB \_ Bastard motherfucker smallminded bastard censor fascist pig. When the brownshirted dictator oppressors come to your house to round _you_ up and take you to the death camp for daring to think thoughts that _they_ found unacceptable, don't expect me to cry for you, bastard. Rather, I'll spit on your cold, unmarked grave. Remember that the long slow slide toward complete erosion of our personal freedom of expression started right here, right now, today with the smallminded censors of the glorious soda wall. \_ i.e. you suck? |
1998/1/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:13579 Activity:very high |
1/27 identd is running on soda, btw, with some modifications, read manpage \_ it's generating cookies, not returning plain usernames. this means two things: 1) soda admin can still ID people and 2) IRC has problems because it's written by stupid people, for stupid people. we now return you to your regularly scheduled idiocy --aaron \_ does this mean ill have to cut down on my "finger motd@soda" habit :) \_ this is not an identd thing. whether fingerd reverse-queries for ident information is wholly independent of us running an identd. --aaron \_ I read it, but I still don't really get what it does, or how it's used. \_ When you connect to other computers, they can find out which of the 100+ users on soda at that time opened the connection. \_ identd is installed? really? IRC is still generating random user names \_ Read what aaron wrote you moron. \_ f.u. moron, I wrote this before aaron replied. Dumbass \_ I thought it was agreeded a long time ago that soda would NOT run identd. \_ In your dreams. \_ Yeah, and that was written down where exactly and agreed by who? [I said "who", I meant "who". "Whom" is a dead form.] \_ not dead as long as you get flamed for using "who" where people want to hear "whom"... \_ uh huh... what people? a pompous grammarian ass like yourself who still didn't answer my question? \_ yup! grammar stratifies. live with it. \_ Don't stratify me you el8ist prick. \_ The last thing I ever heard was that adork wouldnt run it on the sequent due to problems with Dynix's TCP stack -- clueless |
1997/2/26 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:32085 Activity:nil |
2/25 Anyone have a .ps (or any other format) for the City of Berkeley parking permits? I was hoping someone else had already done the 2 week temp. permit. thanks (yes I know its illegal) \_ Real men don't pay for parking you dick. Paying for parking is like paying for sex. It just doesn't feel right. \_ Not to mention rather hard for the new ones with the City logo embossed in a circle of gold foil. \_ Actually the the gold circle just looked like a glued on kinda golden thingy. No big deal to make my own. \_ Because of a special agreement, you can place Berkeley Farms milk cartons on your dashboard instead of the permits. \_ Is all the time you're going to waste really worth the $2 you save? \_ I don't live in Berkeley. I thought that even a 14 day permit required CDL and car registration in Berkeley? \_ only some proof you live in berkeley - CDL, phone bill, cable tv bill, whatever - and unless you're a complete dweeb you should be able to find someone who lives in the area of Berkeley you want. Of course they have no reason to help a shmuck like you steal parking from their neighbors just because you're a lazy selfish cheap asshole \_ Yeah, I suppose all the taxes, shitty roads, tickets, and other BS isn't punishment enough for working in Berkeley. I should pay $10/day at some overpriced garage or get fucked in a variety of other ways. A real city wouldn't have the idiotic parking scam Berkeley has. Thanks for info. I know plenty of people who would help out. Oh yeah, where does "lazy" "selfish" "cheap" or "asshole" come in this? Only a loser or a schmuck (learn to spell Yiddish words before trying to use them) would submit to the Berkeley parking insanity. \_ Cars suck, and people who steal money from cities and then complain about the roads suck more. \_ "lazy" == take BART/buses or RIDE BIKE! \_ so get a f*cking job with an employer who'll get you parking (companies *CAN* get parking stickers for employees). Besides - YOU DON'T PAY ANY TAXES that go to the City of Berkeley moron. (And parking is hell everywhere, not just here) \_ Pardon me, but where the f*ck do you think sales tax goes? You might be surprised to learn that the city gets quite a bit of it. \_ Yeah the ten years I lived here did a lot to improve the roads, not. Ride a bike? Yeah right, over the bridge, under the freeway, blah blah blah. And no parking is not Hell everywhere. Only in Berkeley and SF for the most part. And yes I have and still do pay various taxes to the city of Berkeley. But maybe you're right. I should join the hordes of idiots in Crit. Mass and ride my bike 2 hours each way everyday.... or golly I could get a job next to where I live for half the pay, but it would be good for the environment. Yeah right. When Hell freezes over, plus a day. As I said before thanks for the 14 permit tip. All pro-CM flames to /dev/null. I couldn't care less. \_ Over the bridge? You're coming from San Francisco to Berkeley and you're *driving*? they should charge you extra \_ Actually no. I just had a particular song in mind when I wrote that. I'm on this side of the bridge. "Over the hill and through the woods". |
1996/8/7-8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:31875 Activity:nil |
8/7 All the 'free danh' ascii shit deleted. it's that kind of figlet abuse on walls that gets him squished. don't be fucking stupid, you mindless danh minions. \_ All anti-danh factions are hereby reminded that sometimes laxatives _DO_ help \_ i did not write that. fuck you forging fuckers. -lila \_ CENSORED BY THE MANH |
1994/3/6-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:31504 Activity:insanely high |
3/5 NAMBLA now has an entire copy of the SUN service manuals. Big CSUA points to boss and retnuh for helping me copy them. -eric \ What's NAMBLA? \_ Uh, do we have any suns??? \_ How could you not know that weve got several suns in the office!? \_ Because they look like scrap parts. Do I have account on them? \_ what a typical CSUA h0zer attitude! Quick Clues for the Clueless: 1) This is the public motd. Everything in it is suspect, including this statement. 2) if anyone tells you to use the "chsh" or "rm" command make sure you know what the command does first. 3) Type "man chsh". This will show the MANual entry. For that matter, use the man command before asking stupid questions. People on soda tend to flame stupid questions. 4) There is no such thing as a stupid question. 5) There is only Zuul. 6) This whole thing will probably be deleted/flamed within 5 minutes. This is typical. 7) That is all. You will be tested. 8) ARGH! not another test! 9) Go back and read number one. \_ you forgot to tell them what "yer mom" is \_ I got yermom right here pal \_ you also forgot about cows. \_you hypocrites, does your mother know where you are? \_ go away kchang |
1994/2/8-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:31481 Activity:high 75%like:31454 61%like:31500 72%like:31587 |
1/22 Politburo meetings are Fridays at noon. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ welcome to SLODA, mark 0.38 \_ Is everyone invited? \_ What does "public" mean to you? \_ 1. pub.lic: Having easy access to yermom. \_ % grep -i public /etc/motd.official % Welcome to Soda Mark III CSUA Wonder Machine (read: a Pinto without hard disk space) Ali's Daily Quote from Life's Little Insturction Calendar: ---------------------------------------------------------- "Read the ten books nominated each year for the ABBY Award." -Tue, Feb 8. \_ Does anyone have a problem with me doing this? ) Friday February 11 noon lecture, 145 Dwinelle Hall ) ) The Information Highway Has Many Potholes ) by Barbara Simons, Chair, US Public Policy Committee, ACM |
1994/1/25 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:31457 Activity:nil |
1/24 Does anyone know where I can get a list of college CEEB codes at Berkeley? Does anyone know the CEEB code for Berkeley and Van Nuys High School? I really really really need the codes by this week. Mail me please. Thanks. -kchang \_ What are CEEB codes? Are you transferring out of Berkeley? \_ None of your )(*@#$ business! -kchang \_ Don't be a lazy bum, just go on down to Sproul and wait in line. \_ Information like this should be on-line. This is the Information Age!!!! \_ Get a fucking clue dude. This is Berkeley. Berkeley despises handing out useful information, especially to students. - norby \_ go kill yerself, kchang \_ Use the phone. Call them up and ask.... \_ go grab a copy of this year's SAT booklet or something... \_ sheesh you guys: i have the GRE code for berkeley: R4833 (that probably doesn't help) |
1993/10/11 [Recreation/Sports, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:31416 Activity:nil |
10/9 Time to fire Goobertson; what lousy play calling in the 4th quarter! you simply can't expect to run the time out when your opponent can easily score 2 TDs in 4 minutes. It was not meant to be. back to old Cal football. forget the Rose Bowl. watch arizona vs. OSU/PSU \_ 1) Get a clue. If Bryan hits the FG, we win and Gilbie looks great. If we recover the onsides kick, we win and Gilbie looks great. If we throw into the end zone instead, we don't take any time off the clock and if we don't score, idiots like you would be second-guessing that. 2) Our chances at the Rose Bowl are almost exactly what they were before: we need to win the rest of our Pac-10 games, that's all. We *are* the best team in the Pac 10. We *can* win the rest. But if the fans are going to fucking quit just because the other team got LUCKY and beat us, we might as well give up now. I hear they're accepting applications for losers at Stanford. GO BEARS! -tom \_ We're decent, but Arizona looks pretty good, too \_ It should be a good game. We will win. \_ Tom's assessment is pretty good. A win yesterday would have been very nice, but we haven't lost all our chances to the Rose Bowl --- we would have to beat Arizona anyways to get there. We should not, under any circumstances, throw the towel in an already great season. - hob \jeesh, what a bunch of whiners. The Bears suck, they have always sucked and they always will suck. I can remember when we were happy to beat the spread... Go Bears! -ausman \_ Hey, we did beat the spread vs Washington.. \_ Look guys....our kicker sucks.....oh and Butthead here agrees with. |
1993/5/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:31304 Activity:high |
5/8 Adam Glass is the newest elite who believes that wallall should be deleted. Do you think that it is acceptable for the elite to dictate what programs you may use? wallall will be deleted on Monday after the Politburo meeting unless something is done. \_ no it won't, because adam's solution is extreme and everyone else agreed so, shannon. but people ought to chill out and respect each other a bit while walling. -george \what if i have no respect for someone outside wall-world --psb \_ That's censorship, which is to say restriction of a specific type of speech by those people who control the allocation of the resources for that speech. Is that acceptable? \_ Um, actually, I don't think that's censorship. If they control the resources, then they *control* *the* *resources*, and can do what they want. Censorship is restriction of speech by someone who doesn't control the resource, like the government. If you want soda to be un-managed, say so. \uh how do you censor if you dont have control? --psb \_ Yes. There is no excuse for tolerating electronic harrassment in the name of free speech. -gwh \No, there is no reason for tolerating dumb speech in the name of george. When all you need to do is "electronically close you eyes" [wallall -n], its tough to make the case this is harassment. besides, wallall preserves ample records and witnesses if you want to make the case for harassment. --psb \_If you don't like elites making decisions, then we can throw this to the general membership. Easy. -dpassage \_ RIght....the 20 or so people who attend CSUA general meetings aren't the elite, eh? \what do people think about re-writing the CSUA const to include a machine supervision cmte which will make policies for the machine(s) independent of the politburo, who will continue to run other csua activites. you could maybe have 1 person per 50 or 100 [or whatever] users ... this way this group will be reasonably representative of the membership ... the 5person ex-com certainly is not ... especially when they arbitrarily choose a bunch of their friends to help make policy at the exclusion of orthers. \_ you're just offended because you have no friends. and this group will presmable feel responsive to their "constituency" if they want to be re-relected. please send *me* input on this idea. --psb \_We could take the vote electronically. I'm working on a couple of ideas on how we could do this.-dpassage \-- You don't seem to understand. You elected these bozos. They can do whatever they want. If they voted to turn off soda tonight and never turn it back on, they could do it. A general meeting could overturn, but that's it. [This actually sidesteps the issue that you DID NOT elect Adam Glass - because he is a friend of the politburo, he is CLEARLY getting preferential treatment. That is a problem for another day though]. ^ Adam Glass, the CSUA's Hilary Clinton. What a concept. \_ More like our Stalin \_I don't see how Adam is getting special treatment. He proposed a policy change. I said we'd vote on it, and asked for public input. Any other user is welcome to do the same. And I'm not pretending that a Politburo meeting can be a general meeting; if opinion at the meeting is overwhelmingly one way (which it appears it is), then the status quo will remain. If Adam wants to push it further, which is his right under our const., I'm \_ I am not at all convinced that free speech is more important than the cohesiveness of the Organization. -- Marco \-you're free to leave. i think free speech is more imp than your being a member. |
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