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2002/9/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25971 Activity:very high |
00/00 The motd was so completely stripped of any interesting threads by our local nerderific censor that it seemed better to just clear the entire thing and try again rather than attempt to resuscitate that pathetic excuse for a motd. It had to be destroyed in order to be saved. \_ yermom \_ yermom \_ HOLMOE!!! \_ Isn't there a policy allwoing squish-age for repeated munging of the motd (referring to the censor not the euthaniser)? \_ Go squish the motd censor. It's not like half of us don't know exactly who it is. Login: pst Name: Paolo Soto Directory: /home/sequent/pst Shell: /usr/local/bin/ntcsh Office: The Convenience-Free Zone (tm) Last login Fri Sep 20 10:22 (PDT) on ttyC+ from 63.73.217.160 Mail last read Thu Sep 5 19:20 2002 (PDT) No Plan. |
2002/9/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25951 Activity:high |
9/19 Okay, Korean food, guns, CS books...Not bad, but still BORING. Get it together folks! The motd needs more of an *edge*. Stuff like this: http://www.illmitch.com \_ the motd right now is okay \_ Your link is stupid and a waste of bits. The motd was better before you got here. You have lame taste in URLs. \_ what's wrong with you? ILL Mitch is awesome. |
2002/9/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25936 Activity:insanely high |
9/18 Poll: if CSUA were run like the Weakest Link or Survivor, who would you vote for first as the Most Squishable: tom: . psb: \_ doesn't this guy just answer questions well? ali: . \_ either you're really old, or really boring, or actually i know you're really boring, fuck off. the motd censor: . yermom: |
2002/9/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25906 Activity:nil |
9/17 Dear motd censor, a lot of us bored alumni read the motd for entertainment. Please don't deny us our very modest pleasures. |
2002/9/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25835 Activity:nil |
9/10 no security on soda? I wrote a private personal thank you note in my own directory, next thing i know it's posted on motd. I guess we can't keep anything personal or private on soda. \_ permissions? \_doh! \_ even if permissions are not set to user only, you might want to respect their privacy and not snoop around. Just a thought. \_ for there to be an invasion of privacy, there has to be an attempt to have kept it private. leaving your files world readable in no way sets the expection of privacy \_ and we should avert our eyes from your window when you're singing, naked, with the blinds up... If you can't figure out file perms, don't expect anything to stay private. \_ /csua/adm/doc/policies/general on the other hand, in the spirit of this being a community (kind of), I generally dislike nazi'd permissions. If you have really sensitive stuff, it shouldn't be on soda.csua in the first place. \_ where should it be, then? |
2002/9/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25830 Activity:high |
9/9 Thank you letter writing hint: keep it simple, do not go off like some bumbling idiot at the end telling them the source of your nick name, do not use lines like "I really enjoyed it as much as any interview can be enjoyed" or talk about their 'diverse' backgrounds. That PC shit is garbage once you leave the ivory tower. Keep it to a simple thank you and mention something about their company and why you're The One and that you look forward to hearing from them. Blah. \_ Thank you very much for your contribution to the motd. i simply *loved* reading it. reading your post really made my day. did i ever tell you where i got the nickname "troller"? well, it all started in college when i decided to get a csua account. it's really a great story(see attatched pages.) among the many fantastic skills i learned in college was facilitating diversity through...oh, god i just can't continue. \_ Thanks. This must be the first time in known history that someone volunteered potentially useful advice on the motd without provocation. And no, the rest of you should not bother making a "that's trivial" or "that's lame advice" thread. \_ I loved it! It was better than Cats! I could see it again and again! \_ but you still haven't told me where you got your nickname from. \_ Yeah forget that shit. Stick to offering blowjobs. |
2002/9/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25814 Activity:high |
9/8 where can i get a cal b&g skin for winamp3? \_ wow, we're 2-0 and people are jumping on the bandwagon already... \_ "GO BEAR!" --tien #1 Fan \_ hi tien, nice to see you on motd --kngharv \_ Tien was having ssh troubles but I'm here! --tien #1 Fan \_ Ah good for you! How you doing? Don't forget to study! -CLT \_ When Tien was new I passed by him on campus and was shocked into silence when he waved, smiled, and then asked me how I was doing. Being treated like a human being on campus was so utterly alien I didn't know how to respond. I eventually burbled out a weak "uh, ok" as he passed by. |
2002/9/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25809 Activity:high |
9/7 where are we? http://icpc.baylor.edu/icpc/finals/Standings.html \_ last? \_ No, honorable mention. Yes, we've had better years. If you're so manly -- how well did YOU do on Hilfie's contest when you were an ugrad? (And yes, some of the better teams' members are on Soda too, but they most likely wouldn't be so lame as to post the above.) \_ The only 'contest' when I was an undergrad was surviving his class while taking a full load of other eecs/math/physics classes. Cute little contests are for boosting self esteem for kids. I didn't need a self esteem boost when I was in school. We all knew where we stood because grades didn't yet suffer from massive grade inflation. \_ the above was addressed to the posters of the url and the "last?" -- if you are neither, that message is not for you; otherwise, stop whining about our standing, you have no whining rights if you consider yourself above the contest in general. \_ Maybe I am, maybe I'm not. Either way it's fair game on the motd. And actually yes I do either way because if these things are getting published on the net and Cal is looking lame then it makes it look like I came from a lame school. Also, either way, bite me. \_ alright alright let's just stop this shit now before it gets (further) out of hand \_ out of hand? on the motd? how could that happen? |
2002/9/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25790 Activity:insanely high |
9/6 http://www.calpatriot.org/issueupdate/911.html Now I remember why going to Cal helped turn me away from the left. UPDATE: The adults take charge and common sense prevails in Loony Tunes town for once: http://www.dailycal.org/article.asp?id=9345 \_ You ought to hear what the chancellor said in reponse then. \_ "President Bush formally announced that Sept. 11 would be called Patriot Day and encouraged all Americans to display United States flags." \_ Great. Dying in the WTC (irregardless of nationality) makes you an Amurican patriot. \_ And posting intentionally mindless drivel to the motd makes you... a troll? Or some lesser creature? Also, the rest of us still spell it with an "e". \_ If you wanted a flag waving, jingoist campus why didn't you go to The Citadel or UC Irvine or something? Hadn't you heard of Berkeley's reputation before you got here? \_ I didn't want a flag waving campus. I wanted an education. Prior to college I had no political beliefs or affiliations of any sort. I didn't even understand people like Quindlen existed. Some of us came here for the educational repuation, not to shut down people who didn't believe in our anti-American ideology. \_ No, you had political beliefs, they were just unexamined. You came to Berkeley and had to think about them and thereby got educated. Good for you (and Berkeley, for making you think). |
2002/9/1-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25752 Activity:high |
9/1 Just curious, but how is CSUA backed up? How often? And does it keep \_ it doesn't get enough fiber? only the most current image? Or are there backup archives? I couldn't find this info on the website anywhere. \_ maybe because they don't do backups? \_ backed up? are you joking? \_ every member is expected to copy and backup their files on their own. You're not doing that? You must not think your csua files are that important... \_ Oh yeah, we should all start keeping private copies of the motd "just in case". Never know when there'll be a crash and you'll miss something criti{({_{NO CARRIER \_ Yip. Yip yip yip. Yap yap yip yip yap yap yip yip yip yap. *BANG* @!%#^%#*NO TERRIER \_ I was simply wondering because hasn't there been a few instances when the CSUA harddrives crashed? How were our accounts \_ the two of you just had to bring that up, didnt you -Jon recovered? \_ yeah like 6 years ago! \_ the two of you just had to bring that up, didnt you? Just when I thought I had sucessfully blocked all conscious memory of that shitty week. fuck you! --Jon \_ 15 April 1997, Soda MkIV, the Last of the Sequents, had a drive failure. that was the last major disk failure I can recall. -Jon |
2002/8/31-9/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25742 Activity:insanely high |
8/30 Regarding the "minute taker is an idiot thread" from yesterday. I suspect several people would be disappointed if this was buried and forgotten without corrective action: \_ Sorry for not commenting about this earlier; I don't normally read the motd, but someone forwarded it to politburo by mail. The comment was just a joke, attempting to make fun of the reputation of the CSUA for being male and insular. I'm sorry if it was taken the wrong way. I removed the paragraph from the minutes in /csua/pub/minutes. In the past, CSUA minutes have often attempted to cover meetings in a humorous way. This was meant in that context. If I had spent more time reflecting on how it might be taken, I might not have written it. --Galen \_Censorship is alive and well. \_ Personal responsibility aside, I'm disappointed in the lack of responsibility in the rest of the Politburo. By their silence they tacitly support this behaviour on behalf of the CSUA. -geordan \_ All CSUA members indirectly support this, but the Secretary needs to be able to figure this out. We can't police everyone all the time \_ No, we don't. We're here right now saying this is bad and we don't support it in any way, shape or form. I not only oppose it, I believe whoever wrote that garbage should be thinking up a real nice apology for their next set of minutes. Fuck up in public = fix it in public and take your lumps. \_ I second this motion. I think that there are a lot of other people who agree (and many who disagree as well). \_ Anonymous complaints on the motd, especially those about someone who signs their messages, are ignored. If you have complaints, complain to the politburo. The motd does not count for anything. --twohey. \_ Very poor form, twohey. --scotsman \_ I happen to agree with geordan here, but complaining on the motd is _never_ the right way to get your point across. --twohey \_ Bullshit. It was wrong. Those with issues are not the ones who fucked up. We shouldn't have to complain to the politburo, the motd, or anywhere else. Take some personal responsibility for your actions. Just because the source is anonymous and on the motd does complaints get ignored. Mail poliburo, or not mean the source is wrong or can be so easily and dismissed. The politburo should have published an apology without being told to by anyone. \_ The motd *is* the wrong place for this. Granted, the secretary should know better, but since that does not seem to be the case, whining on the motd is the exact *wrong* course of action to effect change. It doesn't exactly give your position much strength to lapse into excessive profanity while complaining about propriety...anonymously... on the motd -- the place where even technical complaints get ignored. Mail politburo, or (heaven forbid!) the OSC if you want action. -mice \_ Perhaps you consider this a bad thing, but the current politburo doesn't read the motd on a regulat basis (if at all), and thus were not even aware of this until we recieved mail on the matter. The motd is not a good way to communicate with the politburo. We probably will never even see said complaints. - ajani \_ The motd is the people's voice. Maybe the politburu SHOULD read the motd (as crappy as it may be)... other than wall, it's really the only thing that ties the CSUA together. \_ INcorrect. It is not the voice of the people. Otherwise it would not have been taken off the web page. \_ and who made that decision? --Jon \_ Does that matter? The point is that its for the same type of reasons the minutes got condemned. Plus, how many UCB undergrads use motd/wall? \_ That's not relevant. The motd is not the voice of UCB students, it's the voice of the CSUA. \_ It was taken out of context. Anyways, screw you politically-correct liberal femnazi commies. \_ Out of context? You're an idiot. And I doubt you're more right wing or conservative than I am. You look left wing. The right has this thing about personal responsibility for one's actions, not blaming them on other folks like you're trying to do. \_ It's not about left or right politics. It's about general, simple, social-skills common sense. One would hope that our elected officers have enough clue to realize that csua is a larger community than the half-dozen politburo members. -mice \_ Gee, getting your panties all into a bundle eh? Can't you even read? You're the idiot. \_ respect++ \_ "might not have..."? this is the kinda stuff that should have punishment of some kind, not just letting you erase your tracks. the meeting minutes are official records, no? leave them alone and deal with the consequences, hopefully, in a future meeting. \_TrollP? \_ if you think it was a troll then you're "not getting it". lots of growing up to do around here.... \_ pot, kettle, black. 'nuff said. \_ We agree twice. 1.) I have an exteremeley hard time "getting" hyper-sensitive, whining children who are so sheltered and spoiled that they can't find anything better to whine about. 2.) there is undeniably a lot of growing up to be done here. \_ Yeah, wouldn't want him to learn anything. What we need around here is a hangin'. \_ The fact that you guys still call yourself the politburo says it all. \_ yes, this is the only non-stupid comment in this thread. \_ The politburo shouldn't have to read the motd to know there's inane and generally 'bad' stuff in csua meeting minutes. Doesn't any of you actually read the *official* minutes you're putting out? If you did, why didn't the politburo note and immediately correct the noise in the minutes? Or even better, not publish garbage like that? Living down to your own stereotype is hardly humorous. \_ take a lude. \_ wow d00d U R s0 kewl! kan i B leik U?! \_ evidently not. \_ you don't know what came close to being buried this weekend. or torched. |
2002/8/29-30 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Computer/SW/Apps/Media, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25729 Activity:high |
8/29 http://ugrad.csua.berkeley.edu/~chialea/pirate.html For I am a pirate king... \_ This is not even good enough to be motd fodder. Who poasted this? \_ "Poasted"? You're not good enough to be motd fodder... \_ Yes because typo flames are always better than content flames. \_ It's the motd. Yermom responses are better than everything else. Except maybe running prices on 3D video cards. \_ or prices on yer mom \_ probably, but the original link is still a waste of bits. maybe if it were funny in some way. \_ FYI, i typed posted on purpose... to see if it would generate a response. 5 layers deep... not bad! \_ liar. next! |
2002/8/24-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25671 Activity:nil |
8/23 http://www.craigslist.org/sfo/eby/sad/5324072.html Night shift sysadmin slacker job. Do nothing. Get paid. Low skill level. Get paid to do homework and play quake all night. Berkeley. I don't know anything about the company but I figure one of you lazy game playing, web surfing, motd butchering, wall scribbling slackers might want to get paid to do what you're already doing now for free. |
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2002/8/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25670 Activity:very high |
8/23 Is it just me, or are threads being purged three or four times a day? It seems like, just as motd starts to be entertaining or interesting, someone purges it. What gives? -mice \_ revolution starts in '03. \_ I think there are those who do not want the motd to be entertaining or interesting. They want it to be nothing but "couch for sale" and "sysadmin question of the day". \_ We go through cycles of this. Everyone few months a new geek shows up who think they're going to be the one who "cleans up the motd" and "kills all the trolls" and blah blah blah. They fight a losing battle for a few days, sometimes as long as a week or two and then grow up and go away and find better ways to spend their time than cull non-nerd topics from the motd. No big deal. I know who this particular loser is. It won't last much longer. Be patient, keep posting and keep reposting from your copy after each idiotic blasting. Works everytime. \_ I thought paolo gave up on that? \_ paolo wasn't culling, he was deleting the entire motd every 3 minutes by an automated script. -tom |
2002/8/22-23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25653 Activity:moderate |
8/2 jw stop butchering the motd \_ I'm serious. Stop it. The motd is not that anonymous. Let it be. \_ how long of a motd (# of lines, # of topics) are you comfortable with, before it becomes noise? --jw, who does not want the motd to be soda's slashdot \_ I think a more resonable strategy for motd curbing ought involve how active a thread is. If people are still posting to a given thread, then clobbering cuz it's 'too long' is lame. If you don't have a good or reliable metric to determine which threads are active, then perhaps you might conisder the possibility that it's not appropriate for you to be assigning truncation responsibilities to yourself. Perhaps an easier solution is to let a given thread last at least a day or two before nazi'ing it. \_ we can arrange for the motd to be nazified completely forever. \_ So? Shit or get off the pot. No one NEEDS motd.public. Why waste time with this sort of statement? \_ having followed the motd for over 5 years, i do believe i have a solid truncation metric. it considers the factors you mentioned, in addition to whether the latest additions/comments are still relevant, or if the topic has been hijacked and rendered useless. i don't know if the OP actually paid attention to what i have excised, or if he is simply over-reacting to a perceived censorship. --jw \_ Granted on most of your points. But some of the points about hijacking and off-topic seem a little bit subjective to me. If people are interested in a thread (even if it has wandered far afield) it seems a touch too close to censorship to nuke because some third party has abritrarily deemed it inappropriate. \_ Becomes? |
2002/8/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25582 Activity:nil |
8/16 Does the MOTD know everything? -John \_ the MotD says: "Ask again later" |
2002/7/31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25457 Activity:high |
7/30 Did someone write an Eliza for motd? \_ What makes you say that someone write an Eliza for motd? \_ funny \_ what is funny? \_ You haven't been to a psychotherapist's office in the past, have you? \_ He uses the motd for therapy. |
2002/7/22-23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Aspolito, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25403 Activity:insanely high 50%like:26400 |
7/22 motd poll: how many sodans have you had sex with. Please be honest here. And don't turn this poll into a big troll: 0: 1: . 2: 3-5: 5: \_ Does that CSUA meeting in 1997 that turned into a giant orgy count? \_ So, um, just to be clear, what's your definition of "sex"? \_ you ain't clinton and this ain't a congressional hearing. 0: ..... 1: ... 2: ... 3-5: ... >5: .. \_ Do i count one if i pleasured myself? \_ No. \_ For numbers greated than one, is it enough to have sex with one \_ Oh well, back to virginhood again. \_ what about cybersex? \_ No. \_ For numbers greater than one, is it enough to have sex with one sodan at a time or does it have to be a group orgy? \_ I'm having trouble imaging sodans having orgies together. Who should I picture this happening with? \_Obaspolito \_ I am sodan orgy free thank you very much -aspo \_ do not pick on aspolito! --chris \_ jsl \_ Does it count if you have sex with them before they become csua'ers? \_ how about if they left the CSUA before you had sex with them? \_ how do you leave the CSUA? the politburo comes over to your house and chialea rips off your arms? How about if you didn't know they were in the CSUA until afterward? \_ yes and yes. \_ How about if they didn't know you're having sex with them until afterwards (ie. rape)? \_ Do lustful gazes and impure thoughts count? \_ Well no, I'm just asking so as to better interpret the results. Actually, I wasn't aware there were as many females in CSUA as there are dots on the poll. I never saw 'em anyway. Or does CSUA embrace homosexuality in addition to Godless communism? \_ soda people inspire you to do this?? \_ Well no, I'm just asking so as to better interpret the results. Actually, I wasn't aware there were as many females in CSUA as there are dots on the poll. I never saw 'em anyway. Or does CSUA embrace homosexuality in addition to Godless communism? \_ Don't be stupid. \_ This is the motd, everyone lies on the motd \_ OBnextthread: how much do you make? more lies. \_ Does yermom count? \_ Yes if she is/was a sodan, no if not. Sheesh. \_ Best MOTD topic in quite awhile, yay! \_ Who is the greater than 5 guy, I wanna shake your hand. -5 \_ "guy"? it is probably a chick, soda guys don't get laid too much. |
2002/7/17 [Computer/SW/Languages/Web, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25380 Activity:high 75%like:25378 |
7/16 My CGI stuff on soda is failing with "premature ejaculation" What the deally, yo? \_ Did you edit the files on Windoze and are now trying to run them on Unix? They treat <CR> and <LF> differently. \_ Is this the suexec problem? \_ I mailed www, and was told it was because they were working on getting suexec working. At the time, even trivial CGI stuff wasn't working. It appears to be fixed this morning (7/17). \_ Looks OK now. Thanks for looking into it. -OP (original poster, i just invented a new motd-ism!) \_ uh, people have been using -OP for years. \_ I've been using that since 3rd grade! You got molded!!! \_ Um. Isn't it "moded," short for "outmoded"? \_ Well no for a year or so maybe. And *I* invented it. Or coined it, actually. |
2002/7/8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25304 Activity:high |
7/8 Is there a way to make motdedit figure out when you're booted off? I just logged in after my net died last night, and found that I'd still had the motd locked. -John \_ I supposed I could add like a 5 minute default timeout of the lock.. --scotsman \_ Don't bother. Apparently scotsman has beat you to it. -pld |
2002/6/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25222 Activity:high |
6/27 Who was it that said something like I joined the CSUA and only got this lousy account and a look at Partha? \_ Partha? Who's Partha? \- the guy who insists on formatting his motd posts differently from everybody else's. ok tnx \_ WHAT?! You don't know who *THE* psb is?!?!?! ACK! This is madness! God save us all! --psb #1 Fan madness! G-d save us all! --psb #1 Fan |
2002/6/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25189 Activity:high |
6/25 Why was the MOTD so boring yesterday? Have people left early for July 4th? Last week, it was more interesting here. \_ What exactly do you want to see on the MOTD. Political discussions have a habit of being deleted. \_ I think he's looking for sex talk. I'm not sure why, as CSUA isn't exactly the greatest place to seek out advice. |
2002/6/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25165 Activity:moderate 50%like:23870 50%like:24290 66%like:26400 66%like:26401 |
6/21 Motd Poll about the motd! (feel free to add options and vote for more than one option) The motd...: Not enough censorship: (other choices deleted) ... Is easy to restore after being brutally chopped: . Is perfect the way it is: . Has too much censorship: Not enough censorship: Should only be for techie and student news: Should be changed so it's no longer anonymous: Should only be for announcements re: RIDE BIKE! USE LINUX!: Should be set to zero bytes every hour: A haven for anonymous anarchists determined to destroy the free world: Is nothing I care about: |
2002/6/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25161 Activity:high |
6/20 motd_warriors.new in /csua/bin, new -s option for statistics \_ Needs to include # of yermom references. \_ The correct term is "Yermom Invocation" or YMI. And what's with all these people who can't figure out how to fucking format motd entries. sheeit.. \_ Uh-huh. How about you throw down some FAQ or a URL, bitch. \_ It wasn't hard to figure out. Follow the pattern you fucking monkey! You're a Cal student! Figure it out! \_ Agreed. Something like a pipe to grep "yermom"|wc|awk'{print $1}' \_ I meant per thread. |
2002/6/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Science/Physics] UID:25134 Activity:high |
6/17 motd opinion poll: CMOS will be replaced by some other technology for the majority of personal computing applications never next 5 years next 10 years .. next 50 years next 100 years \_ Oh my god no! Don't take my CMOS! I think a poll on sibling incest would have been more interesting. This is so nerdy. \_ i have 50 inflation-adjusted dollars ridding on this \_ i have 50 inflation-adjusted dollars ridding [sp inc] on this a nerd. in a bet with a co-worker. but then, i am indeed a nerd. [motd spelling bitch was here] \_ ok, jerkoff, you remember how to spell and i'll remember how MOSFETs work and how to make them, and we'll see which is a more usefull skill. \_ it's not possible to know both device physics and spelling? shrug. personally, i'm rooting for soi, but i've seen simple cmos do some amazing things i'd never have thought possible, so no bet. heh. just flashed back to asking dillon in the old fish bowl what that cmos thing was about for my cs150 project. \_ This narrows down who you are a lot. Why not just sign your name? -PM \_ why? there are a few of us around who go that far back, and it's not obvious who i am unless you actually know us. if it helps, i think i have the oldest file on soda. \_ damn! defron has older files. fine, oldest file amongst guys who still use soda. \_ nope, as it turns out donald does. \_ Actually, root does (unless you count files with timestamp 0 [a la 12/31/1969 16:00 PST]. See /csua/archive/lib/Fun/song. \_ [deleted for lack of sense of humor] \_ Yet another ESL drone who thinks he has unique skills.... "They can't fire me! I'm valuable!" Famous last words. |
2002/6/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25099 Activity:nil |
6/14 Yawn... if this morning's motd isn't the most dull as well as uninformative we've seen in weeks, I'll eat my cat. We already have people censoring anything remotely interesting. Why not go all the way and burn the dull shit too? Just add a line to your .login or something to zero the motd and get it over with. \_ I am bi midget who has two half-step children by my sister and I want a sex change operation because of my religion, can you help? \_ Just taking a breather -soda conservative |
2002/6/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25084 Activity:high 50%like:25930 |
6/12 What happened to soda, seems to have been down until about 4:40pm today. -alexb \_ Does no one read the motd.official? There was a notice there for a long-ass time that said soda would be down Jun 12th due to AC maintenance. \_ Even more embarrassing, it was in the motd itself as a topic. \_ I should be taken out and shot! \_ Yeah like anything useful lasts more than 30 seconds. \_ Boy... 30 seconds that last 3 weeks... |
2002/6/12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:25077 Activity:high |
6/11 hmm... why don't people use motdedit? > w hkg USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT hkg Gd http://bighome.netlogic 10:42AM 4:31 vi /etc/motd.public \_ why should they? \_ A locking mechanism. Common courtesy. To not be a h0zer. \_ I have no locking problems with emacs (I don't lock people out, and no one locks me out) and if my posts get overwritten once in a while its okay. \_ I use a different method but I also don't overwrite other people's stuff and I'm ok with it if my stuff gets smushed sometimes. Where did the motdedit Nazis come from anyway? \_ just trying to make it easier for you to do the right thing. --god \_ ve haf our vayz! \_ because they don't. Roll the Bones. Roll the bones. |
2002/6/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25010 Activity:moderate 50%like:25038 |
6/6 kinneyspew moved to /csua/tmp/motd.kinney (the moron apparently doesn't know how to use motdedit). \_ I wasnt' aware that motdedit was MANDITORY. it seemed more like a suggestion. Can we get some clarification on that? -!kinney \_ motdedit isn't MANDITORY, but if don't use me and your stuff gets deleted don't complain. \_ mandAtory. sheesh. |
2002/6/6-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:25008 Activity:insanely high |
6/6 Is it just me remembering with rose-colored glasses, or has the motd become a more hostile place for women than it used to be a few years ago? -- '97 grad \_ rose colored glasses. the motd has always been hostile to everybody, particularly women. for example, i have no idea what your gender is, but i'm hostile to you for being an idiot. \_ It's not that the motd is more hostile to women now. It's just that there weren't women back in 1997. Fortunately I graduated and women stopped being afraid to enroll in Berkeley CS. -geordan \_ Damn, so it was you who stopped all these girls from signing up CS! \_ Yeah. Sorry. My bad. -geordan \_ Not true. There was ahm, chris, jsl, cynthia, ikiru... i don't remember them being harrassed on the motd. \_ raytrace, lila, kane, lolly, tabloyd... the list goes on. the thing is, if people were being hostile or, more likely, bitter toward women, one of this contingent would kick his ass. GO RACHEL! DROP HIM! TAKE HIS WALLET! \_ Anyone know who's the author of the current harassment? We can take steps. \_ Today's new word is "sarcasm." Listen and learn. \_ Your memory is pretty poor, whenever chris (the one who worked at Taos) posted she used to get harrassed. \_ How could anyone leave out lisha? \_ Or rip? \_ um... I was doing just fine forgetting about rip. now i'll have to go back to therapy. you're getting my bill. \_ or anitac \_ still nobody has answered me as to why people are stalking chialea? \_ The simple answer is no female in recent csua history, not even lila, went so far out of her way to attract attention to herself as chialea. You're just seeing the natural response to that. \_ Um. And how did chialea go out of her way to attract attention to herself, exactly? \_ if any of the females have a complaint, they should email politburo. \_ yes thats a nice thought but you cant do anything about it. \_ Don't be so sure. Use of the motd is logged and the campus has anti-harassment policies. \_ the motd is not logged in any way you could clearly and suffuciently link a person to a post to make a case. you're in fantasy land. \_ the politburo have done something about it before. It was pretty effective. They can do it again, or add on the idea. \_ The motd stalking of chialea is a joke, just like the ucla ee guy and cs guy thing. \_ Really?? I thought you were serious. \_ in the mid 90's, the women on soda were better able to take care themselves and gave as good as they got. Of course, few, if any, of these women were CS students, let alone majors. \_ some of them weren't even women. \_ or men. |
2002/6/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24982 Activity:nil |
6/3 ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v doesn't update. \_ so mail mehlhaff! \_ duh. \_ motd != mellhaff \_ motd update restarted. was locked on an RCS interactive query again. |
2002/6/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24977 Activity:high |
6/3 Motd rating: Inverse relevance rating: 5/10 Percent threads infected by yermom: 4/13 Freeper rant rating: 0/10 You're an idiot replies: 1/13 URL inclusions 12/13 Overall Satisfactory performance, but room for improvement. \_ Uhm, excuse me, but uh, fuck yourself. Thanks! \_ ah yes. Self importance 8/10 \_ Not self important. You're wrong. Still, go fuck yourself. \_ Self importance is exactly how it comes across. \_ the motd is useless. we all know this. \_ Yeah, but it's a useful sort of useless. |
2002/6/3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24974 Activity:nil 50%like:23733 |
6/1 Is there a motd archive? I'm looking for something from yesterday. \_ Yes. locate motd, \_ Which one? \_ Yes. ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v; you can use ~marco/bin/motdbrowse -c to go through the diffs. (-c to use context diffs.) -- Marco \_ Thanks, it looks like the most recent date is: 2002.05.29.04.35.39 Where would I find 2002-05-31 ? \_ guess motdwatch got locked up. I just restarted it. Occasionally RCS is stupid and gets stuck in a prompt. -ERic |
2002/5/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24939 Activity:high |
5/25 Logout - Party TONIGHT - Saturday May 25 - details at: [dated http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~phillip/logout was School's out. Live a little. here] Questions, flames, RSVPs (optional) to dans. And fer chrissake don't blow the motd away. \_ So how was/is the party? \_ Um it's on the 25th. Go. See for yourself. \_ Shuffled by the motd shuffler. |
2002/5/24-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24933 Activity:very high |
5/24 Motd Poll: When you say something stupid on the motd are you Just trying to piss the rest of us off: ... Certain that you are not being stupid: ...... Just fucking stupid: . Stupid is as stupid does: Trying to earn Twink Points from Tom: .. \_ you'd have to sign your posts to do that. -tom \_ Not really. You hand out plenty of points based on your guesses and assumptions. I want more points, damnit! |
2002/5/20-21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24887 Activity:nil |
5/19 Heard anything about Stauder Automotive near College & Claremont? \_ I heard there's a thread about it on the motd; perhaps you should check there. \_ recursive (n) \ree-ker-siv\: see recursive. |
2002/5/18-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:24880 Activity:high |
5/18 What's this? ^Something relevant above the line?^ A CSUA party?!? Yes- we're throwing a party for CSUA people- current and alums. We'd really like to see lots of the CSUA geezers there, so we'd appreciate it if you people could tell the people who don't drop by the office or log in to soda anymore. Here's the link fo the info: http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~phillip/logout What can I say to get you to come? We'll have mass alcohol. We'll have a hot tub. We'll have college girls. We'll have Rez. For all my laid-off brethren- we'll have free food. Tanks. ,wllm \_ but will you have bitches? \_ and free x-jobs? Tanks. ,wllm \_ Shuffled back to the top by the motd shuffling daemon \_ stupidity about nweaver deleted. I've had a beer with nweaver I've been to a party ith nweaver. Really it's nothing to get anxious about - nick is a good guy, quit fucking being little bitchy pricks. - paolo \_ I'm kind of curious about the girls part. They're not going to show up on their own so how much is it costing you? \_ Ah you still have much to learn my paduin apprentice. \_ padawan? \_ SOmeone removed my post asking if Nick Weaver will be there. \_ Someone removed my post asking if Nick Weaver will be there. I want to say I partied with Nick Weaver. \_ I'm going to see if I can get Euphrasia to show up. cynthia \_ Who's Euphrasia? -dans (party cohost) \_ Also known as ikiru. Consult the CSUA Encyclopedia, unintuitively under "Poetry." \_ Fucking awesome! I know who ikiru is, I just didn't Who killed the scifi thread. Anyway my recs are James Morrow and Jonathan Lethem for "new" school and Lem/Dick for old school. connect Euphrasia with her handle. -dans \- Be sure to ask for Grace Kelley --psb \_ Euphrasia cool to talk to and look at. Dont you mean Grace Kelly? \_ Okay, I'll bite. Who is Grace Kelley? -dans \_ You don't know who Grace Kelley is? Are you serious? Next you'll be saying you don't know who Elvis is. obgoogle. \_ Context dude. I didn't think you were referring to the (dead) Princess of Monaco. I am seriously missing something here. By the way, who's this Elvis guy? -dans \_ It goes like this, "Grace... Kelley... wow". Ok? \_ Still not getting it. Perhaps you are trying and failing to be funny. -dans \_ Uh...uh....uh...yermom! |
2002/5/15 [Recreation/Humor, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24836 Activity:high |
5/15 I just realized that I've been on soda for more than 10 years. Still trolling the motd. The funny thing is, there are people who has been around even longer and they're still trolling the motd. \_ No, what's funny is that there are people who have been around longer who are still falling for your trolls! \_ yes, that's the funny thing. \_ No I'm not...Doh! |
2002/5/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/SIG, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24747 Activity:very high |
5/7 Two airliner crashed in one day. Oh my. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20020507/ts_nm/tunisia_egypt_plane_dc http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&ncid=716&e=1&u=/ap/20020507/ap_on_re_as/china_plane_crash \_ The end is near! \_ It is said that flying has fewer accidents per passenger mile than driving. What about number of accidents per passenger trip? Thx. \_ good luck finding anti-airline statistics. The airlines do a better job on interpreting statistics than the NRA and tobacco industries. \_ The anti-gun crowd is even better at misinterpreting or flat out inventing statistics. 5/7 Implications of DMCA Anti-circumvention Rules for Research Dr. Pamela Samuelson SIMS, UC Berkeley May 8 , 2002 4:00-5:00 p.m. Hewlett Packard Auditorium, 306 Soda Hall EECS Joint Colloquium Distinguished Lecture Series \_ mp3 whore! Hundreds of gigs! Free Warez! Woo hoo! divx! yes! \_ um, I've taken 2 classes with Samuelson, Law 276.1 (digital law) and SIMS 231 (IP Law). She's good; she knows what she doesn't know, and sticks to teaching what she does know, and researches what she doesn't. So open your mind you closed source fuck. \_ Closed source? You're an idiot. Open vs. Closed source has nothing to do with copyright law, you moron. In fact, if you had the slightest clue you'd know the GPL _relies_ on and _uses_ copyright law to protect GPL'd code. Fucking dumbshit stupid loudmouth moronic geek you should go and ask her what the GPL is for starters and then you can come back to the motd and beg forgiveness for being so stupid and ignorant. \_ You forgot to take your lithium today. \_ Maybe but at least I know wtf I'm talking about. \_ actually, you missed the whole point. But we expect this from the motd arguments. \_ it would be good if we got rid of the motd. \_ we also expect people to claim someone else missed the point without saying what point they were failing to get across and then blame the reader. e190 |
2002/5/7-8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24743 Activity:high |
5/7 Anybody know when A beautiful mind is coming out on video? I can't seem to find this info on the web. Thanks. \_ geez, still showing in theaters. \_ just d/l it from limewire \_ fasttrack only has the 300 meg version. However if you want spiderman... there's a 2.2 Gig vcd version out. \_ Is it worth d/l'ing? (My bw is limited) \_ No you cheap bastards go pay $5 for a matinee, sheesh! \_ So you think that its worth spending $5 to watch it? In that case, I guess I will d/l it tonight. \_ No I don't think it's worth $5 to watch it. I think you're wasting your time either way. 5/7 Implications of DMCA Anti-circumvention Rules for Research Dr. Pamela Samuelson SIMS, UC Berkeley May 8 , 2002 4:00-5:00 p.m. Hewlett Packard Auditorium, 306 Soda Hall EECS Joint Colloquium Distinguished Lecture Series \_ mp3 whore! Hundreds of gigs! Free Warez! Woo hoo! divx! yes! \_ um, I've taken 2 classes with Samuelson, Law 276.1 (digital law) and SIMS 231 (IP Law). She's good; she knows what she doesn't know, and sticks to teaching what she does know, and researches what she doesn't. So open your mind you closed source fuck. \_ Closed source? You're an idiot. Open vs. Closed source has nothing to do with copyright law, you moron. In fact, if you had the slightest clue you'd know the GPL _relies_ on and _uses_ copyright law to protect GPL'd code. Fucking dumbshit stupid loudmouth moronic geek you should go and ask her what the GPL is for starters and then you can come back to the motd and beg forgiveness for being so stupid and ignorant. \_ You forgot to take your lithium today. \_ Maybe but at least I know wtf I'm talking about. \_ actually, you missed the whole point. But we expect this from the motd arguments. \_ it would be good if we got rid of the motd. \_ we also expect people to claim someone else missed the point without saying what point they were failing to get across and then blame the reader. e190 \_ Sentence is too long and convoluted. You need to take e190. \_ that's "eewanani" to you hosers. |
2002/5/7-8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24737 Activity:insanely high |
5/6 /csua/bin/me (formerly motdedit) actually works now. Please use it. \_ no really, it really does work now. \_ a) having your username associated with the motd file eliminates anonymity. b) most motd posts are anonymous. you do the math. \_ Get a life. if someone wanted to track down motd entries, it's trivial. just use the script. or at least use vi. \_ Make the motd.public editable only by the system motdedit. \_ And then someone locks it for hours... try again. This way people in general can avoid stepping on toes, and the random luser/unfortunate soul that leaves their lock doesn't have to be pummeled and require a lart invocation on their tired ass. \_ wait, weren't you saying the same thing a few weeks ago? what part didn't work? \_ The post was for those who may have missed it. \_ /csua/bin/motdedit.new was last modified on May 3rd... so \_ Fight the Power! Dont use motedit! No more rules no more conformity! what's new? 5/6 Implications of DMCA Anti-circumvention Rules for Research Dr. Pamela Samuelson SIMS, UC Berkeley May 8 , 2002 4:00-5:00 p.m. Hewlett Packard Auditorium, 306 Soda Hall 5/5 EECS Joint Colloquium Distinguished Lecture Series \_ mp3 whore! Hundreds of gigs! Free Warez! Woo hoo! divx! yes! \_ is it that hard to read? The only thing changed was a system("/csua/bin/mtd") at the end to apply your changes. --scotsman \_ well, considering I don't know what /csua/bin/me looked like before May 3rd, reading the /csua/bin/me now won't tell me what changed, now will it? looked like before May 3rd, reading /csua/bin/me now won't tell me what changed, will it? \_ die you [conformityd], you \_ Fight the Power! Dont use motedit! No more rules no more conformity! \_ You will conform and you will like it. \_ die you [conformityd], you. This is readable. Get the Man off my back! |
2002/5/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24703 Activity:high |
5/3 Text of note from the mailbox bomber. This is great stuff. This guy needs a soda account asap! It's motd quality! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29298-2002May3.html \_ Sucks. not motd quality. \_ yeah, this guy wished he were Ted Kazcynski[sp?], but he's not. the FBI thought the unabomber was an uneducated out of work airline employeee, and i'm guessing their profile is closer to the mark with this nut. except for the the bombing, most motd nuts are closer to the real unabomber in tone. \_ Ever read the "Ted Vs. Al Gore Who Said What?" web page? It was really hard to tell. I only scored 60% right in a 50/50 quiz. Scary shit. \_ well, yeah, but that's my point. Ted vs. Al shows that they sound very similar, but i'm pretty sure you could tell this midwestern clown from either of them on a sentince by sentince basis. |
2002/5/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24650 Activity:nil |
4/30 Is there an english to "hackspeak (Gn0oo0 lINUx Roxxxx DuD3)" program? Or, are all the motd flames truly the product of someone with way too much time and ascii art skill... \_ I thought it was pretty obvious the motd flames are truly the product of someone with way too much time on their hands \_ eye t1p3 /\/\1/\/3 0u1 b1 ]-[@/\/|]. uR /\/0t 318!!!1!@!@!1 |
2002/4/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24547 Activity:high |
4/23 motd' s been way too tame lately. Who is the latest soda chick to drool over ? \_ yermom \_ she's not "the latest". |
2002/4/22 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24514 Activity:nil |
4/21 cool... someone restored the motd from like 2 days ago. can we get an older one please? I actually barely remember reading some of these posts. \_ How old do you want it? \_ Two years. \_ OK, here you go. motd from April 21st, 2000, around 6pm PDT: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE #0: Sun May 3 22:30:48 PDT 1998: Co-Ed Naked Computing |
2002/4/18-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24481 Activity:very high |
4/18 New, decent motdedit in /csua/bin/motdedit.new. There's a small race condition for vi users, but i think we can all deal with it. --scotsman \_ Telling people to change their behaviours is like changing the keyboard to something that sux (e.g. Qwerty) and hoping that they'll all slow down. \_ I didn't tell anyone to change their behavior. I'm simply hoping the emacs/pico folks will be a little more courteous. --scotsman \_ symlinked to /csua/bin/me for convenience --scotsman \_ /csua/bin/you ? \_ Now if everyone would just use it... \_ Well, now there's no reason not to. ..okay, maybe not NO reason..--scotsman \_ what was the reason to not use it before? \_ That it didn't actually lock in any useful way, and that it didn't play nice with vi. --scotsman \_ not to mention those that open up motdedit and idle for hours. \_ Well, this won't take care of that.. make something foolproof, and someone will make a bigger fool. --scotsman \_ Very true. So what are some of the improvements in this version? \_ uses flock instead of fuckcuntl^Wfcntl, will wait for a lock for you, will play nice with vi. --scotsman \_ so why not replace /csua/bin/motdedit ? |
2002/4/10-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24400 Activity:high |
4/10 So what happened to Trevor's hearing? -curious alumnus \_ We only know that (1) He doesn't seem to have shown up to it, and (2) he is now suspended from UCB for a year and banned from being on campus. \_ what was this hearing for? \_ No one really knows. \_ who's Trevor \_ Proof that sometimes ignorance can be bliss. \_ proof that some idiots forget that not everyone still is on the Cal campus. \_ This _is_ the Undergrad Association. If you're complaining that you don't understand all references in the motd, you really need to get out more. \_ Or rather, get out less. \_ <DEAD>www.gelatinous.com/danh/trevor/trevor.html<DEAD> \_ Where did you get all these emails, danh? \_ The bulk of it was sent to csua@csua. -geordan \_ Actually, I don't really think this whole saga is very funny. It actually just seems pretty sad. Here is an obviously smart guy in the CS program at Cal and he completely self-destructs because some kind of insanity or chemical imbalance or whatever. I hope he can get his life back together and I don't see why everyone is always egging him on. ... go make fun of some crazy homelss guys on Telegraph if you enjoy it so much. \_ So you're saying he's going to become the next John Nash who went through college as a misunderstood person only to win the Nobel Prize? \_ Was he ever diagnosed with anything besides being an asshole? \_ Yes. He spent the better part of last June involuntarily confined to a mental institution. And another week in March. And potentially other stints in-between that we don't know about. No, the diagnosis is not public information. He _is_ known to be on record with the UC as having ADD, which has allowed him to use the "disabled" priority to get early telebears registration. \_ ADD? Oh please. The world's most made up illness. It is pathetically easy to get an ADD or dyslexia diagnosis at Cal for the various benefits. And certainly the non-illness known as ADD would not be the underlying cause of psychotic episodes. \- so what is the logic behind disability -> early telebears ... that is just for class reg, right? \_ logic? there's no logic in 'protected class' status. \_ thanks, Ms. Rand. \_ How is he smart? Just because he has a 3.5 overall GPA? A lot of people I knew had much higher GPA and never had to curse at their professors. That, cursing at your professors, doesn't seem so smart to me. \_ I've met the guy. He's not necessarily brilliant, but substantially more intelligent than a lot of people on this campus. \_ Oh yeah, smarter than your average bear. That's hard. \_ That's the kind of guy who will show up at a CSUA mtg or office with a gun and kill everyone just because you geeks are jerks. \_ If every jerk was killed just for being a jerk this would be a lonely planet. The cockroaches would take over in days. \_ He seems arrogant, but I kind of like some of the things he did against the EECS department. |
2002/4/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24372 Activity:kinda low |
4/8 Berkeley Study Links Soda to High Childhood Obesity Rates \_ http://dailycal.org/article.asp?id=8225 \_ No. More like too much TV and not enough running around outside. \_ more like playing basketball and other sports on Playstation rather than outside. \_ and of course all these motd geeks are top athletes. -tom \_ Some of them, yes. Even if not, a bad athlete still burns a hell of a lot more calories than they would on the couch. |
2002/4/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24344 Activity:nil |
4/5 Why did my entry on best of the motd aka motd reruns get deleted? If the current motd only has boring stuff and nobody is stepping up to the plate to spice things up, we should post the best of motd. |
2002/4/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24315 Activity:nil |
4/3 The motd has been so boring lately, I'm forced to start posting the best of motd (tm). I.e., motd re-runs. Like the following thread. \_ You have shitty taste. There are many more better threads. |
2002/4/1-2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:24290 Activity:very high 50%like:25165 |
4/1 how i read motd via web? the whole motd. tks. \_ Linked off of http://www.csua.berkeley.edu http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/motd -geordan \_ this only displays motd.official. If you want the rest, be more creative. \_ Oh, that's right, my bad. motd.public was deemed too offensive for public consumption. Circumvent at your own risk. Note that fingering motd@csua.berkeley.edu still works. -geordan \_ it's too offensive for the csua officers to take responsibility for, that's for sure -chialea \_ Don't you mean it's too offensive for tjb to swallow? \_ which is utter bullshit, but that's okay. --scotsman \_ It's also utter bullshit that a link on the CSUA web page to a public forum means that the CSUA officers "take responsibility" for that forum. -tom \_ Yeah, especially since half the posts are from tom \_ Hey! No fair! Tom isn't the only one trolling the motd. We've got a contract that guarantees the rest of us equal time. -motd troll union #42 \_ It is. Would YOU like to talk to the ASUC about it? -chialea \_ Who exactly from the ASUC said that stuff on the motd fell to the responsibility of the Politburo? I'd love to see that decree... --scotsman \_ ASUC can make you responsible to them but you are not legally responsible under the law. Meaning ASUC can cut CSUA funds but you can't be charged, sued, arrested or whatever for it. Either way, you, as an officer, are not personally liable. If some know-nothing ASUC student clown tries to say different, I'd tell him to go talk to his lawyer because it aint so. \_ It *used* to be available. Was it that tmj think? \_ you don't. This discussion is over. |
2002/3/26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24231 Activity:high |
3/26 I am tired of my motd entires get overwritten, why won't people use motdedit already? \_ If y'all just stopped using emacs and pico, we'd be fine... \_ Cause idiots lock the motd for hours at a time (like right now). \_ what's the point anywayz, the liberal scum here will just delete anything that is common sense and hide the truth. \_ Don't you mean the Republican scum here pulling crap out of their ass? \_ No. Conservatives are open for debate on any topic. We Is there a FAQ on the motd file lock written somewhere? The motd FAQ is more of a conduct guide. Or is it just whoever comes up with "fstat /etc/motd.public" at a given moment? (aspolito as of a minute or so ago) believe that what we believe is based on substance and thus can be defended in a debate setting. We also believe that most of what leftists believe is based on feelings and other sources of non-substance and therefore undefendable. We have no fear of debate or reason to censor. Thank you for adding your small bit of wit to the motd. As an aside, it appears to me that the first "anywayz, the liberal scum" post was posted by a leftist scum trolling for attention, rather than a conservative who had no cause to write such a thing. Have a nice day. --motd conservative \_ Yeah, all those Right Wing religious people have belief systems based on reason and substance. Do you really Is there a FAQ on the motd file lock written somewhere? The motd FAQ is more of a conduct guide. Or is it just whoever comes up with "fstat /etc/motd.public" at a given moment? (aspolito as of a minute or so ago) [ reformatted - motdformatd ] believe this? \_ Hi, TJB! -chialea \_ I've been poking around trying to grok the file lock. Is there a FAQ on the motd file lock written somewhere? The motd FAQ is more of a conduct guide. Or is it just whoever comes up with "fstat /etc/motd.public" at a given moment? (aspolito as of a minute or so ago) \_ are you sure? anthony is still asleep next to me. \_ Check 'er out yerself. \_ that's not a lock. that's a handle to the file. |
2002/3/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24151 Activity:very high |
3/18 Boring alert! Boring alert! MOTD will soon be nuked if it continues to be so boring. \_ ok.. i'll stir up some controversy. there's plenty of land in the world. someone should make a reactor go critical in jerusalem. forcing all three religions to find a new capital. problem solved! \_ maybe some terrorist group could unleash a really dirty bomb ( i.e. conventional explosive wrapped in lots of nasty nuke waste) there and get the same effect. \_ And you're partly to blame. \_ Yeah good, smart, I'm sure zeroing the motd makes it more interesting. Who let *you* into Cal? \_ Perhaps you should post an article about abortion, wymyns rights, gun control, linux or something. You know the kind that brings out the troll in the avg. motd reader. \_ RIDE BIKE! \_ DRIVE CAR! \_ GO TO TEXAS! EVERYTHING IS GOODER IN TEXAS! \_ Let's talk about how stupid and unobjective "objectivism" is. \_ What's wrong with the snails thread? |
2002/3/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:24136 Activity:insanely high |
3/16 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35609-2002Mar15.html This anti-nuke thing will never work. We all know its just science fiction. When will they stop lying to us about it? \_ sometimes it is the futile struggles that are most important. Like educating morons on the motd. \_ I keep hoping that the nutwingers will figure out one day that bread is more important than bombs. Until then we need to keep on trying to educate them. \_ That's right. Bread is more important. Bread and circuses. Romans understood how to keep the proles in line, one day we will too. \_ It's more like war booty and circuses. \_ Man lives not on bread alone. \_ Eternal vigilence is the price of freedom. Bombs ensure that there is bread and the freedom to enjoy it. \_ Bombs can also be used to take away freedom. Dictators, Nazis, Commies tend to be the ones who want to spend the most on weapons, to oppress its own people and to bully and invade other countries. \_ As if the Russians or any one else, except us, vote buying. ever adhered to the ABM treaty. There was no verification, it was completely unilateral. do you the former Soviet Union curtailed production of ICBMs after the fall of the Berlin Wall. In fact, \_ What's that got to do with it? They're wasting billions of government dollars on star wars. Next that'll spend a few more -------- To The UCB Campus Community: HELP SHAPE THE FUTURE! It has been almost two decades since the campus has formulated a comprehensive strategic plan. In the last few years, two changes in the academic environment made it urgent that Berkeley develop a new strategic plan. First, the Office of the President has mandated that the Berkeley campus increase enrollment by 4000 students by the year 2010-2011. Second, the Regents have mandated that the Summer Sessions be 'regularized' and made similar in content and quality to the fall and spring semesters. These changes represent a unique opportunity for the campus to develop new programs and expand its offerings. On the other hand, this growth also puts stress on the space and infrastructure within our physically constrained campus. It was clear that careful planning is essential to assure that the quality and reputation of the Berkeley campus would endure while accommodating these changes. As a result, Executive Vice-Chancellor and Provost Paul Gray established a Strategic Planning Committee in Fall 2000 to consider these pressures and to make recommendations to the Chancellor and the campus. This committee was carefully composed to include representation from the administration, the Academic Senate, staff and students. The deliberations for the academic strategic plan began within the context of growth outlined above, but expanded to consider all aspects of the academic enterprise since it was clear that all facets of the campus are tightly interrelated. The purpose of the Working Paper is to document the deliberations to date, to identify concepts for further consideration and investigation, and to engage the campus community in a discourse of these concepts at this critical juncture. The working paper is the foundation for an implementation plan currently under development by the Strategic Planning Committee. The purpose of this memo is to elicit your comments on the paper so that it and our implementation plan can reflect the input from the whole campus community. The committee invites you to send your comments through the Strategic Planning website at: http://spc.vcbf.berkeley.edu Questions and comments will be accepted through Sunday, March 31, 2002. Campus forums will be held during the month of April to gather input on a draft academic strategic plan. The following dates have been set. Please attend one of these forums to talk with committee members about how the strategic plan will guide the Berkeley campus for the next two decades. Campus Forums: *Graduate Assembly - Thursday, April 4, 5:30 -7:00 pm @ ASUC Senate Chambers *Student Forum - Friday, April 5, 12 noon - 1:00 pm @ 2050 VLSB *Staff Forum - Monday, April 15, 12 noon - 1:00 pm @ Sibley Auditorium *Faculty Forum - Thursday, April 18, 5:00 - 6:30 pm @ Sibley Auditorium *ASUC Senate - tba @ ASUC Senate Chambers *Academic Senate - Thursday, April 25, 3:00 - 5:00 pm @ Sibley Auditorium Strategic Planning Committee Co-Chairs David Dowall, Chair, Academic Senate William C. Webster, Vice-Provost, Academic Planning & Facilities \_ what the hell is this? \_ An extra 4000 students on campus plus additional support staff of maybe 1500? Madness. It's sheer madness. I feel really sorry for that batch of students. Parking, housing, class availability, etc, etc are all going to get worse. Nothing good will come of this. \_ Just make sure you dump the SAT. Replace it with a fast food preparation skills assessment test. billion researching The Force. \_ I FIND YOUR LACK OF FAITH DISTURBING. --Vader \_ Oh I'm sorry, I seem to recall many frothing at the mouth because they were upset the U.S. was abrogating ABM. And, frankly the FED also wastes money on: AIDS research for a disease, even if it exists, is 100% preventable, welfare and sundry government handouts, which have effectively devolved into vote buying, I could go on and on. At least this is National Defense - the preeminent responsibility of the federal government. Incidentally, do you think that the former Soviet Union curtailed production of nuclear ballistic missiles after the fall of the Berlin Wall? In fact, they have vastly accelerated production, partially at the expense of the US taxpayer. \_ Most heart diseases are also preventable. They are caused by "gluttony", one of the seven deadly sins. In fact, if men don't sin, we would just be like Adam and Eve before their Fall and would live forever. \_ You don't have to believe in the Fall to know on research for the sake of gluttons! on research for the sake of gluttons! Same for those drug and cigarette addicts! Let them die, they deserve it! that abstinence would have prevented the vast majority of AIDS cases. \_ And moderation in diet would have prevented the vast majority of heart problems. The government should stop wasting my tax money on research for the benefit of gluttons! Same for those drug, cigarette and alcohol addicts! Let them die, they deserve it! \_ Thats not the point. You are coerced to pay for it - At Gunpoint! |
2002/3/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24021 Activity:very high |
3/3 Can I run a MUD on soda? How about a netrek server for me and my friends? Maybe an IRC node, too. And oh yeah, would it be ok if I ran a few p2p clients and the seti/cancer cure/auto-spammer client, too? I can install all this stuff on my own. I just need access. Thanks! \_ Yes. By all means. It will speed your departure. !staff. \_ there are other ways to be a hoser. I am sure you will find them. \_ Back in my day we didn't ask permission to install software, we'd just break root and install shit. \_ Uh, I assume you're being facetious, but except for the filesharing stuff (juarez policy) and auto-spammer crap (obvious reasons), why the heck not? I'd keep it off soda, maybe, but the CSUA used to run a bunch of public servers (crossfire, netrek, anonymizer, whatever.) If you're willing to put in the time to help maintain some machines for the purpose, why should anyone object? What is the CSUA server/hardware situation right now, anyway? -John \_ Yeah, tom or peterm used to run a netrek server on soda. It was back when the lottery scheduler was agoing. I'm not sure how well it would behave on current soda, and I'm not sure if there was some policy decision causing it to stop, but go for it, duud... --scotsman \_ It wasn't me, and I don't think it was peterm. There is a general policy on daemons, or at least there used to be; you had to have a README letting root know what it was, and root reserved the right to kill it if it was causing problems. -tom \_ Yes I was clowning around. I thought it was obvious but look how many fools took it seriously. There's no need to troll the motd. People are begging to get trolled around here. Lighten up, folks. I thought it was easy to get stoned at Cal. \_ most motd posters are no longer @ cal. \_ So? Drugs are everywhere. Find them. Get your doctor to prescribe something. They love doing that. Drink heavily. Anything will do. \_ So you're saying that was your weak attempt at humor? \_ No. I'm not saying that at all. Maybe it was too subtle for you and you feel stupid having responded as if it was a serious post. I'm guessing you're one of the first 2 replies. \_ Nah, I think the guy is responding to the fact that you're acting like a jackass. *shrug* |
2002/2/23-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23957 Activity:insanely high |
2/22 How famous is professor Culler? Looking for a decent prof to do undergrad research with. I've heard bad things about Patterson and other "big shot" profs. Any comment? -junior \_ Some of the things that should be said in response to an inquiry like this are best said off the record and offline. Drop by the CSUA office or the HKN office some time, and there should be people around who can say some of said things. Certainly if I'm around I should be able to give you a braindump. -alexf \_ Maybe you want someone famous like bh who got listed in the geek book as "the friendly hacker" or something like that. \_ what is "the geek book"? --geek wanna-be \_ He is well known and respected in his field. Here's a question for you: Why do you want to do research? --jon \_ I'm bored of undergrad classes. I want more challenge. I want to read and publish interesting research topic. I want to go to read and publish on interesting research topics. I want to go reason jon??? \_ All your research topic are belong to us. \_ And wants em good engrish skill! to grad school (research experience helps). Are those good [restored] reasons, jon? \_ Jon's question was totally valid. If you care more about grad school (and want to go to school for prestige/money) than the other things mentioned, than picking a name-brand prof might be more important. Also, the CSUA is off-the-rec as long as you don't sign your posts... \_ I would not, in general, trust advice from unsigned motd posts on anything remotely important. -alexf \_ Is this self-fulfilling? \_ alexf, I strongly advise you *not* to go on a killing spree on campus. --unsigned motd poster \_ Pick a professor that you like, that you respect, whose philosophy agrees with yours. Don't worry about "fame". You're at Berkeley. Everyone's pretty great. Look for someone whose interests are like |
2002/2/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23956 Activity:nil 50%like:22455 |
2/22 Ah, motd censorship http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=127&u=/020221/7/14xd0.html \_ [motd url formatd was here] \_ I don't know who deletes threads. I rather they stay up so I can critique them. -soda conservative \_ you mean ridicule. \_ Perhaps you're projecting your perception of which side is making the better points. \_ Seriously, is there really a point to it? The article is so weak it almost looks like a strawman. Why bother? It's too easy. |
2002/2/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23904 Activity:high |
2/18 restored. "curling" as the only topic is beyond boring. jesus h. christ what are you trying to do? let's just go back to uname -a > /etc/motd if curling is going to be the big motd topic. \_ curling IS boring. \_ Chess is fun! \_ Speaking of chess, anyone who comes to soda want a regular chess partner? I need to practice more. -- ilyas \_ It is! It should be an olympic sport. \_ I've forgotten my olympic events. Is Baseball an olympic event? \_ trolling the motd should be an olympic event. |
2002/1/31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23733 Activity:high 50%like:24974 |
1/30 Stupid Question: How does one read the MOTD archive? \_ It sure is. \_ assuming you know how to read...um...how did you ask that if you need to know??? \_ Yes, it is. \_ It is not a dumb question since I have yet to see a README or FAQ about it. For a start, though, I've heard it is mehlhaff who archives the motd. Maybe you should try poking around ~mehlhaff/. \_ first rule of motd: you do not talk about motd. second rule of motd: you do not talk about motd! \_ ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v. Use "rlog" and "co -p" to read it. \_ I've found it's easier to grep or search in an editor if I have an idea of what I'm looking for. |
2002/1/24 [Reference/Religion, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23654 Activity:nil |
1/24 What's the encryption method soda accepts now? SSH used to use blowfish now it's 3des. How come it changes around? [motd format god was here. next time the motd delete god will be here] |
2002/1/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23437 Activity:nil |
1/2 I'm still curious why stalkers post their psycho shit on the motd. Any current or former motd stalkers care to explain? \_ What's your name/number/measurements? Tell me, and I'll explain it to you. \_ 3.5" around, 7" long. Explain now, please. \_ That gives me a hard-on. |
2001/12/29-30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:23399 Activity:high |
12/29 motd how-to-post: mm/dd(tab), not mm/dd(space). motd format god was here. \_ who cares? \_ More people than you might think (esp if you want your post to be read). *shrug* -mice \_ just change your tab stops. \_ how about you just hit 'tab' and follow the standard? \_ what standard? This is not the same standard enforced by the motd formatting daemon. \_ go read the motd faq off the csua web page. and yes it is the enforced motdformatd standard. \_ This must be new. I don't remember all these rules being in place when I joined. \_ the file is a couple months shy of 2 years old. \_ the file has a history longer than that. \_ They're not rules. They're guidelines so the motd is readable. Stop now with the anarchist wannabe stuff. Learn to cope. Life is full of rules and guidelines. Most of them exist for a reason. \_ when you joined (and when was that?) there weren't as many dumbfucks. people back then were smart enough to do the right thing without needing to be told. idiot. \_ well, gee, shouldn't the "standard" specify default tab stops then? and what about replies? In order to get the \_ part to line up with the parent, you usually need to do <tab> <tab> ... <space> <space> <space>. That's not tab stop agnostic. Get over it. Oh, and I also see that the standard fails to mention that everybody should keep posts within 80 columns, although, since the tab stops aren't specified, who knows what 80 columns is? |
2001/12/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23311 Activity:nil |
12/19 From now on, all political drivel will be immediately eviscerated from the motd. \_ It isn't your motd. You're only going to start mass motd deletions which make is useless for everyone. If you don't like a thread, don't read it. If you don't like the motd, don't read it. You're in no position to decide what topics are appropriate for the motd. When you ride out of Heaven on a glowing silvery cloud and land in my living room you can tell me what motd topics are allowable. Until then I suggest you rethink your personal little censorship policy. Remember, anyone can delete anything here which includes whatever your favorite topic threads are. \_ Right - you live in a vacuum where your life consists to whacking off over fantasy games and extolling the virtues of Linux. And people wonder why CS is replete with irretreviably pathetic dweebs. |
2001/12/19 [Reference/Religion, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23304 Activity:nil |
12/19 From now on, all posts critical of the Israeli government will be immediately eviscerated from the motd. -- soda mossad \_ You're a meanie \_ And anything from the libertarians too because if a libertarian says something we shouldn't even hear about it. We all know they're insane so we can dismiss everything they say without thought or intellectual effort. Oh wait, no, this is Berkeley. No one at Berkeley would do that! We have the highest standards! \_ Not anymore. The quality of thaistix this year really sucks. \_ this article is about Muslim Bedouins in the Israeli army: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/19/international/middleeast/19MIDE.html -danh \_ The palestinians are stupid- they could have had land as mandated at the end of WW II. Instead they were duped, and continue to be duped, by their leaders, by their 'Arab' brethren, and their hate for Jews, to perpetually fight to push all Jews into the sea. Jews have been there since time eternal, and they have a right to be in Jerusalem. All this trite demagoguery does nothing to obscure the facts. \_ it looked like the plan offered to arafat by barak and the US would have split the palestinians into 4 different pieces of land, with israeli controlled roads between them. true? \_ I've read that somewhere. I haven't read an original source, only interpretations of the agreement from people with an axe to grind. \_ There is some truth to that. Some have interpreted recent statements by Powell, Bush and Blair of a "viable Palestinian State" as meaning that this division would not exist in peace settlement/proposal. As to Barak's offer, it was indeed the best and most generous offer given to the Palestinians by the Israeli side. Unfortunately, as "good" as it was it didn't meet the minimum "requirements" of the Palestinians by not dealing with certain "HOT" topics. |
2001/12/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23237 Activity:high |
12/13 I am a CSUA alumni member who would like to surreptiously take control of the new Politburo, as a way of preventing the ineptitude of the Fall '01 officers from presenting itself again. What is the best way to form my shadow government? \_ He who owns the motd owns the future... or something like that, no wait, maybe it was the wall, or hoserchat, or... nevermind. \_ you should sell weapons to other student organizations to create a slush fund for your sub-group in the CSUA. use this to fund your coup. \_ mmmmm, csua puppet regime... \_ spawn offspring, and have them enter the csua when they enroll at cal. |
2001/12/12-13 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/India, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23221 Activity:insanely high |
12/11 A question for long time vegetarians. Do you breath with your chest or do you breath diaphgramatically (with your belly). I guess this question applies mostly to people of Indian descent. I just started learning how to breath with my diaphgram. Supposedly it's an Indian or East Asian practice. I'm wondering if there's a correlation. Thanks. \_ Just remember, paying _too_ much attention to your breathing for a long time can seriously hoze you, because you can make your body rely on conscious control for breathing, and then you might suffocate in your sleep. \_ Utter bullshit. However, you cannot use these muscles alone to breathe. The most \_ Can someone please conduct an independent experiment verifying this? \_ Which is why if you have the will power to hold your breath until you pass out, you'll start breathing again automatically. Or something like that, right? \_breathing with your diaphragm is the way all humans breathe. If neural signals to the diaphragm get cut off, you suffocate. However, your inner costal muscles, (located between and around your ribs,) will also expand and contract, which can help with breathing. many people rely on these muscles in addition to the diaphram. However, breathe these alone use muscles you cannot to. most The space for your lungs. Your diaphrgam, which is located efficieant method is to relax your inner costals, and use your diaphragm alone. I bet that's what you are learning. However breathing like this is not a part of any culture, or part of being a vegiatarian... it's the way our physiology works. Please take a human anatomy or physiology course for more information. -Sofia feet, thus allowing you to breathe deeper. BTW, it has \_ I think you mean "intercostals" --scotsman -Ychang, MSII (2nd year med school) \_ no one really uses their costal muscles (of which there are three layers) to breathe unless your diaphrgam is failing. There is limited expansion capabilities with your rib cage and relaxed costal muscles help create more your space lungs for. diaphrgam Your, which located is between your lungs and your abdominal organs, such as the stomach and the liver, is your main breathing organ. It basically rises and falls with every breathe. What You're probably asking is the relaxation of your abdominal muscles which allows you to create a vacuum in your abdomin, thereby drawing the diaphgram down toward your feet, thus deeper you breathe to allowing. BTW, it has nothing to do with being vegetarians. -Ychang, MSII \_ breathing deeper using this method allows you to cleanse your body even more. If you breathe in a shallow manner you're not using the whole capacity of your lungs. And as the poster below suggests, it is used in meditation. I find that I'm a lot calmer and more relaxed since I started breathing this way. -original poster \_ learn to format. -motd formatter more Indians (or vegetarians in general) would know about \_I'd appreciate it then if you would teach me. \_ Motd formatting is 80 cols with left justification indented three spaces in from the previous comment. Your initial post went well beyond the line. I would guess you had your editor set to around 90 columns when you added your comment. This makes it very annoying to read on an 80 column terminal. --motd formatter (Q.E.D) [ reformatted - motd formatting daemon (I get your point but it was annoying me too much ] \_ then get a bigger terminal. Think Different. \_ From what I've read, pregnant women often have much less space for their diaphragm to move, and so use costal breathing to a much greater degree. Also, singers and yoga types will often use costal breathing as well as much deeper diaphragmatic breathing than most people. --scotsman \_ All that said, I have heard that many yoga and meditation classes often teach to focus on breathing patterns by focussing on control of your diaphragm... so maybe that's the connection the original poster had in mind. \_ Thank you. That is exactly what I was trying to get at. ychang's explanation of draphgramatic breathing is what I'm learning. I brought this up because I thought more Indians (in or vegetarians general) would know about this and therefore practice it. From what I see there is no correlation. -original poster \_ I am not of Indian descent, and I also sometimes communicate in a total stream of conciousness babble, so i think that crosses cultural lines. \_ Unless you're a vocalist or a singler, why do you want to breathe that way? \_ It's good to breathe well. Breath is as necessary as water, and though it is generally involuntarily controlled, it's a relaxing and possibly beneficial thing to pay more attention to. Take a (good) yoga class. --scotsman \_ suggestions in Berkeley area? - ! previous poster \_ 7th Heaven on 7th between Univ. and Ashby. \_ Many martial arts use this kind of breathing. - mikeym \_ how does one not breathe with their diaphram? -confused white boy born with functional diaphram \_ Shitting on the street in broad daylight is also an Indian custom - does that mean I should do it too? \_ This is not an indian custom. \_ You sure? Maybe it's just a Fremont thing. \_ maybe it's a Berkeley thing, like walking in sewage? \_ Pretty sure. People in the really poor slums might "do thier business" in the streets, but you have to search these areas out in most south indians cities. In south indian villages this sort of thing can lead to stoning etc. I can't speak for north india though, as I've never traveled there. |
2001/12/11-12 [Computer/Networking, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23215 Activity:high |
12/11 Alpha Chi Sigma has rooms available for the spring semester. The house is on northside, 3 blocks from soda hall and has an ethernet behind a DSL router. email Edward Pizzini <pizzini@jps.net> for more information \_ Ran out of people to haze this year? \_ c'mon, be fair... they probably just ran out of goats to have people with. [I think this is funny and will keep haze people with. [I think this is funny and will keep restoring it everytime you delete it. hoser.] \_ motd was restored. old motd. Also, don't you know ACS is a professional Chemistry fraternity? There is a picture of some membership on the latest College of Chemistry alumni mag. \_ professional, eh? Well I say, where there's hazing there's goats. \_ Yes, we stopped playing "Guess The Acid Taste Test" after someone drank a whole cylinder of fuming nitric like a shot. |
2001/11/24-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23093 Activity:nil 50%like:23264 66%like:36272 |
11/22 motd restored \_ shouldn't that be 11/23? |
2001/11/23 [Academia/GradSchool, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23091 Activity:high |
why the fuck did you delete my posts regarding college application. you have no respect for us college students, and i shall have no respect for you. motd will remain this way for the rest of this week. \_ Who did this? You shall have no respect for whom? Certainly not 99.999% of us. \_ nazi |
2001/11/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23066 Activity:nil |
11/19 What happend to the motd archive? I missed the last few days' content. -r--r--r-- 1 mehlhaff csua 7006936 Nov 15 19:12 motd,v \_ You COULD try asking mehlhaff yourself. I mean, seriously, how should any of us know except the man himself? \_ Will this entry be archived as well? Now there's a message about the archive in the archive? \_ Will the above entry be archived as well? Now there's a message about the message about the archive in the archive. \_ Aaaah, infinite recursion. Help me!!!! \_ GNU! \_ What does the "G" in GNU stand for? \_ GNU's! \_ Hello? College student? It's obviously mehlhaff's files. Why do COLLEGE STUDENTS seem incapable of basic thought? Or is it just pure laziness? \_ so motdwatch got stuck on tty input for a co. RCS can be annoying sometimes. -ERic |
2001/11/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23054 Activity:very high |
11/15 DNS PROBLEM. CSUA staff, can you please check the external DNS? only the www.csua.b--- is working. http://soda.berkeley.edu is not. thanks! \_ This has been expected for years. CSUA does not officially "own" http://soda.berkeley.edu. You've been told many times to use the csua prefix. \_ Is your attention span so limited that you can't read or scan the motd all the way through to see this topic already covered? \_ Can the CSUA Politburo lobby to keep a pointer from <DEAD>s.b.edu<DEAD> by suggesting this name has been around for a long time and is in many web pages, used by many people etc. A reasonable hostmaster shoud allow this if reasonably asked. Two big ifs perhaps. \_ Just out of curiousity, why can't http://soda.berkeley.edu be used by the CSUA? |
2001/11/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22970 Activity:nil |
11/7 % grep pedantic /home/digital/mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v | wc -l 14 Someone's been using this word a lot recently (compared to only 2 for the previous motd archive). \_ pedantic \_ pedantic \_ ObPsb |
2001/11/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22891 Activity:nil |
10/31 If I can't attend the meeting because it's Halloween and I have better things to do, can I vote absentee on any motd issues? \_ If you have a life, then you don't deserve the honor of attending a CSUA General Meeting. \_ the csua general meeting, where the elite meet to perform neat democratic feats. \_ uh... is finishing my HW early and then going to Castro so crazy of an activity that no nerds in CSUA should be able to do it? |
2001/10/31-11/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22888 Activity:high |
10/31 More on motd stuff. So if we record who added something to the motd do we also record who censors it and what they removed? \_ of course not. i think it's clear that thae same jerks who want to ruin the motd by logging it are also responsible for trying to ruin it with their deletions. \_ see paolo. -!tom \_ where is paolo anyway? He hasn't logged in for a while |
2001/10/30-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22881 Activity:insanely high 57%like:21883 |
10/30 Motd privacy poll (extracted from newsgroup): \_ Laissez Faire, but Politburo can override anything: ............... \_ Laissez Faire: ....... \_ Logged motd: \_ Logged motd, but names are only politburo accessible: \_ Logged motd, but logged names are encrypted: \_ motd.public and motd.logged (aka i agree with dbushong): ....... \_ if .public is anonymous, then I agree with this (sorry I haven't read the ng). \_ Yes .public is anonymous. \_ Only available H07 42N CH1X can post (their phone #s): . \_ motd.ugrad and motd.alum: \_ You mean motd.alum and an empty file. \_ Only available H07 42N CH1NX can post (their phone #s): . \_ good lord, I hope this is unintentional \_ and URLs to their pix. \_ If the motd is logged, then how is it different than wall or the newsgroup? Logging may help make the content more cs in nature, but it will stifle converstations like the ones about bad employers and layoffs. And it won't stop /cusa/tmp/motd. \_ motd.public is ! logged. motd.logged is logged. cat motd.official motd.logged motd.public > motd. \_ This works for me. ----ranga \_ then add a '.' in the dbushong column. \_ So what is the point of .logged if .public is wide open? Whose going to use .logged? \_ those who prefer a logged motd can decide to only ask questions to and answer questions from the logged motd. people like galen, tom, or whoever else signs their posts might only want to post to a logged forum. \_ the issue is what people see by default when they log in. I don't have a problem with idiotic anonymous trolls, as long as they're in a file like /csua/tmp/morons. -tom \_ So .hushlogin everyone by default and add `cat /etc/motd.official` to the default files. Anyone who wants to can change it to suit them- selves without any policy or other real changes to anything. Why is this such a BFD anyway? It takes two to troll. Stop being such a big trollee and maybe the trolls will go away from lack of satisfaction. You only feed them. I can't believe we're even having this discussion, but oh wait, yes, I can, it's the CSUA. \_ again, how is this different from using the newsgroup or using wall? \_ kchang's happy point system: \_ actually I thought the ability to add polls/questionaire was really awsome. Every single vote was accounted for. \_ I agree with Paul: \_ Can some student w/ extra time on their hands set up a voting system so that we can (un)officially tally the votes on this one? \_ Don't forget to sign your votes. -geordan \_ Log motd and squish anyone seen posting to /csua/tmp/motd or other world writable files: \_ motd.logged and motd.cablemodem (so that cable modem users can access the motd): . \_ a logged motd would get rid of this STUPID ass joke which is not even funny. off as a fool and ignored. in fact, i think the logged motd should be "released" with an addon script that automatically filters posts from users in your .motdignore file. \_ how would it do that --dbushong \_ because anyone who kept this joke going would be written off as a fool and ignored. in fact, i think the logged motd should be "released" with an addon script that automatically filters posts from users in your .motdignore file. \_ As opposed to now... where you take them seriously? I notice you're not signing your posts, oh champion of a logged motd. --dbushong \_ A joke like that would probably be more suited to the motd.public, not motd.logged file. It's possible that anon motd posters post only stupid crap to motd.logged and post relevant comments/questions to motd.public to show that there is no point to logging the motd. In fact, I'm going to be the first to do so. \_ it's the inane, stupid, useless remarks that make the motd interesting. |
2001/10/30-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22873 Activity:high |
10/30 After reading the thread on http://ucb.org.csua on the motd, I realized that it's only a bunch of alums or dropouts bitching about it. And of course the officers who run the show. I'm curious, do the new members even care about the motd? I bet the vast (99.9%) don't know anything about the motd and wouldn't give a flying fuck. It's only that 0.1% that are bitching. -alumni \_ alum, alumnus, or alumna \_ Wait, so the alumni don't count, and the politburo doesn't count, and "everyone else" doesn't care...who exactly is the important constituency? -tom \_ yermom, duh. --phillip \_ yersister begs to differ! \_ Well, there haven't been more than 10 or so _active_ members that I've seen in a few years, so saying "just the politburo" is really almost equivalent to "most of the active membership" \_ I'm still a student. (but I've only been to 1 or 2 meetings) - rory \_ alumni don't count. alumni should get lives and not worry about the petty minutia of the csua. students count. \_ I guess I won't be making any donations then. - alum \_ wah wah wah. Making donations to the group as a whole has nothing to do with how the group runs minor daily details like the motd. - also alum who has made donations \_ is you is, or is you ain't, my constichency? \_ So when is a decision/vote going to be made? |
2001/10/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22850 Activity:nil |
motd nukage? \_ yea |
2001/10/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22616 Activity:nil |
10/2 Where's the script that auto-archives the motd to ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v? I'd like to run my own auto-archive process / cron job. Thanks. \_ man rcsintro \_ I use 'motdwatch -u mdd', all the scripts should be publicly readable. From thatyou should be able to figure it out for yourself. -ERic |
2001/9/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22604 Activity:insanely high |
9/23 Hey vthanh, kill your damn job! \_ Poll (yes I realize 1 vote of politburo weighs more than 99 votes) sqish: .. \_ After viewing vthanh resume, I switch from no squish \_ doesn't squishing depend on twink points or something that tom used to keep track of? This seems like a an offense that should recieve a *strong* warning not a squish. \_ After viewing vthanhs' resume, I switch from no squish to squish: he's not nor ever has been a student at cal. no squish: (99). \_ mr. vthanh. the fucking pc you use to log on to soda probably has more cpu power than soda. use IT for your stupid prime numberiser. \_ so i see, this machine should primarily be used for writing to a world writeable file. Why again do we need a 800 Mhz athlon for that? \_ his bc job is using up most of the cpu and makes interactive stuff on soda very slow. soda does plenty of other things besides letting people edit the motd, you fuck. \_ soda is also the mail server. it handles lots of mail. i guess it takes 800 Mhz to handle it all. \_ don't forget its also the web server. it also takes some amount of cpu power to support 100+ concurrent logins of people running all sorts of interactive programs. \_ what sort of interactive programs are those? \_ mostly tcsh, there are a lot of mudders on soda who telnet elsewhere too. oh, and wall takes a lot of cpu. \_ yeah, it's really annoying how people try to do math or do something that makes this machine compute. Damn it, i like an idle machine! - alum \_ emacs, pine, screen, irc, w3, w3m, lynx, etc \_ I think the point is, if it's for school-work, he should use a campus-machine; if it's for industry work, he should use a work machine, etc. \_ There is (and hopefully will be) no policy against using CSUA resources for schoolwork. If you have forgotten that the CSUA is a student organization meant to serve a university campus, you're hereby reminded of that. It is a different and orthogonal issue that Mr. Nguyen may not have chosen the best venue for running his job (even if it should turn out that it was being done for academic purposes), and should have consulted rootstaff beforehand to get pointed at a more appropriate CSUA resource to use for this task. -alexf \_ check out vthanh's resume, he's not a student at berkeley: M.S. Applied Mathematics, CSU Hayward, March 2002 B.S. Computer Science & B.S. Mathematics, CSU Hayward, June 1998 \_ ok fine this is a gray area, maybe he is hosing soda for classwork for grad school in hayward. he still shouldn't hose soda for his giant bc is my driver's license prime? jobs, he should use a different machine, one other than the one 99.9999 percent of the CSUA uses, it's rude and inconsiderate. \_exscuse me ignorance but doesn't the ticketing system only alot mr nguyen only a certain amount of processing cycles per second to prevent any one user from hogging the CPU? \_ that's a previous version of soda, this is no longer the case \_ can we make it the case again? \_ The lottery scheduling system wouldn't make a difference for someone running only one process. If he was running 5 jobs in parallel it would make a difference. -tom \_ what's he doing in a Berkeley student organization if he was never a Berkeley student? \_ Yeah, how did he get an account. I remember need my CAL student id to get an account. - yet another alum \_ From /csua/adm/doc/policies/processes: As a courtesy to others, do not run programs that take up too much CPU power for too long. Background processes belonging to users who are not logged on will be killed if they are taking inordinate amounts of processor time. Am I the only one who remembers any of the CSUA's policies? -geordan \_ I'm guessing that the vast majority of csua'ers know the policies and try not to break them. \_ Why would his process eating up all the leftover CPU cycles be a problem to others when he's running it with nice 20? I think the real problem is that his process has a big working set. Last I checked, RSS=24M and VSZ=73M. (BTW, I don't think non-Cal-students/alumni should be given soda accounts. Maybe he was once a student and then got kicked out and ended up in CSUH. -- yuen \_ nice 20 doesn't work like people think it does. |
2001/9/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:36322 Activity:nil |
9/16 A Modest Proposal: One of the threads below shows how confusing it is to have several anonymous posts on the same thread, with some but not others by the same author. So, to make life easier, if you feel like posting anonymously but will probably post again on the same thread and want people to know your posts are by the same person, just pick an arbitrary 32-bit int "sig" and use it to sign your posts on that thread. Then feel free to change your "sig" whenever. -0x1337D00D \_ What's with the 5+ line posts? Is it a concerted effort to render the motd useless? \_ Who is number 0x1? \_ You are number 0x6. \_ I AM NOT A NUMBER! I AM A FREE MAN! \_ Wow, yeah... but are you sure 32 bits are enough!? --foo \- i wonder what would happen if some number of people pledged to "join" the Brotherhood [And Sisterhood] To Indiscriminantly And Rapidly Delete Anonymous Motd Posts Regardless Of Content ... it might crowd out anon posts, but i suppose it is also possible it will lead to RCS madness. ok tnx. --psb \_ [post deleted as part of the 'Brotherhood (And Sisterhood) To Indiscriminantly And Rapidly Delete psb Motd Posts Regardless Of Content'. ok tnx.] (not to mention bad formatting) - 0xanonymouse \_ Soda has less than 4G accounts so far. \_ We need to plan for the future, though! What if some of these posts are still around when it has more than that? Huh? Did you think of that? --0xDEAD1337CAFED00D \_ No. We need to plan far ahead like IPv6. Just in case there are 4000 CSUA posters per square foot of land on earth. We need 128-bit signatures. -0x49193631abedf0001242efacc012 \_ You just need a unique id per thread. we don't need to track across threads. So the poster posts with id 0. the first to respond uses id 1, and so forth. if you post twice on a current thread, use the same id. the motd lock acts as a mutex so you don't need to worry about thread safety. about thread safety. -0x1 |
2001/9/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:36309 Activity:nil |
9/17 Politburo, is that you? Hail motd censor king. |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:36306 Activity:nil 57%like:21883 |
9/14 MOTD poll: Worst CSUA officer ever mel appel kkat thorn lila . paolo ....... politburo . yermom dans ......... \_ Yeah, he sucked. \_ I heard that he [Censored] __/~*##$%@@@@@@******~\ /f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\ 4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\ /fF./ . /- /'~` - \_ * *\ *\R\ (iC.I+ '| - *- -@@ )\ \ ) ) )|RB (I| ( [ / \-__ . ) ) /_/ | *)B (I(. \ `` \ \_-/~~/__/ )_ .-~ F/ \b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/ ~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/ ~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~ | I I \\ / // i\ \\ ( [ (( I@@) ))) ) \_\_VYVU_/ || * | | * *\ /* /I\ *~~\ /~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\ ____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___ AFGHANISTAN \ now is that mature? |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:36300 Activity:nil |
9/14 to speak to the politburo fiat, were people inciting to riot or some such? the wonderful thing about world writable files is ... wait for it... you can DELETE as well as add... Unless the motd was being used to coordinate concerted attacks against the local mosque, get over your power trip, politburo, and return the motd to the people. --scotsman \_ Well, according to the info down below, it seems like the motd was fairly normal (and downright tame compared to last nov.) \_ yeah, FUCK politburo censoring. Let's vote politburo members off the island |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:36299 Activity:nil |
9/14 WTF was seano ranting about? Bitching about ignorant opinions being shoved in faces, people wanting the motd are "insecure"... The only insecure people here are the ones who can't deal with the motd. And maybe he should take his own advice and keep his ignorant opinion out of my face. \_ Maybe you should tell it to his face on csua instead of hiding it here where he won't see it --pld \_ too much spam there as it is. what's the point. |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:36298 Activity:nil 62%like:22461 |
9/14 I'd like to make the following points: (1) If you haven't read wall.log yet (or don't know how to), at least one CSUA member had indicated to the Politburo that they felt threatened and scared by the racist comments in the MOTD. (2) The Politburo did not make this fact clear to the membership, that it was a basis for the closing of the MOTD. Instead, it is described as "anti-arab sentiment offending many members" in /csua/pub/minutes/F2001/0913.politburo. (no offense intended to the CSUA Secretary) You're all human beings. I'll let you figure out who was right and who was wrong here. You can then return to what you were doing, instead of feeling incredulous, righteous, wronged -- whatever. |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22462 Activity:very high |
9/14 Regarding dan's and sofia's emails about the motd; First I'd like to thank them for making their positions clear. But I think this has nothing to do with legal rights. This was just people being pissed that the politburo had the arrogance to shut down the motd. Censoring is nothing new to the motd, the motd censors itself on a regular basis. But the idea that the CSUA or politburo is somehow responsible for stuff that happens to appear in the motd.public is what concerns me. There is a disclaimer; perhaps it needs to be more clear and/or prominent. Perhaps it should display some kind of warning before you're allowed to look at it. I mean really, there's so much crap in the motd that if you're even capable of being offended by the remarks of anonymous strangers you probably shouldn't read it. You can't trust the sincerity of half the things in motd either. Personally I think it's healthier in the end if all the ideas come out in the open. It's not like they go away when you censor them. I wish I could reassure Sofia that her fears are out of proportion... truly, there are potentially dangerous morons out there, yet the US is a different place than it was in the 40's and the civil rights movement along with fear of lawsuits means that internment camps are as much a thing of the past as slavery. Racist morons were out there the whole time anyway; events have given them a specific excuse to vent their hatred, but it doesn't mean we were safe from them before this, and these people are not the norm. Finally, most of the statements cited by dans look like they were from ONE PERSON with personal "issues"; they were also stripped of the (sometimes lengthy) opposing views that lots of other people posted. At some point I think people started just ignoring or deleting him. Once again, a few people with extremely offensive views popping up is a price of freedom and should be reflected in the disclaimer. Yet punishing the motd community as "irresponsible" in light of the reality of how it handled itself both on the day of the tragedy, putting up helpful info, and later, yes, dealing with hatred, is an injustice. \_ Agreed, but what happens when those ideas pose a real and direct to a persons safety and well-being? It's not like they go away when you censor them. I wish I could reassure Sofia that her fears are out of proportion... truly, there are potentially dangerous morons out there, yet the US is a different place than it was in the 40's and the civil rights movement along with fear of lawsuits means that internment camps are as much a thing of the past as slavery. Racist morons were out there the whole time anyway; events have given them a specific excuse to vent their hatred, but it doesn't mean we were safe from them before this, and these people are not the norm. \_ tell that to the arab who's store was shot full of ak47 bullets in indiana the other day. \_ I guess in all the hoopla about the racist comments, the posts about people being depressed by acts of violence against arabs in this nation seem to have been completely ignored. Finally, most of the statements cited by dans look like they were from ONE PERSON with personal "issues"; they were also stripped of the (sometimes lengthy) opposing views that lots of other people posted. At some point I think people started just ignoring or deleting him. or her._/ Once again, a few people with extremely offensive views popping up is a price of freedom and should be reflected in the disclaimer. Yet punishing the motd community as "irresponsible" in light of the reality of how it handled itself both on the day of the tragedy, putting up helpful info, and later, yes, dealing with hatred, is an injustice. |
2001/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22455 Activity:high 50%like:23956 |
9/14 Hello everyone. Welcome to the underground guerilla motd. So much for censorship. --PeterM \_ Indent your goddamn entries, whitey. --pld \_ I think that _was_ his entry. 2 lines long. \_ Anyone know which comment(s) resulted in the lock down? \_ Jon put the copy of it on ~jon/pub/motd.1.14055 \_ once again, you are wrong that was not the complaint that was voiced by several members. \_ what was the complaint then? why the secrecy? and in what manner was it voiced? (i hope not in the motd) \_ That's it? What a total waste of time this censoring has been. \_ That can't be right. The motd has been much more offensive/childish/racist in the past and wasn't censored. There must be a much more offensive motd that jon didn't get a hold of. \_ it was the last pre-nazi motd in the mehlhaff motd rcs archive; I did read the past few days worth of motd in the archive and didnt find anything as offensive as the politburo implied. --jon \_ yes - they're in the csua@csua mail. - paolo \_ where is the list archived? |
2001/9/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22451 Activity:low |
9/14 I propose a boycott of the old motd, even when it comes back. \_ Sounds good. You've got one supporter. \_ why don't you boycott soda? you can get a life or maybe post whatever you want on the motd of your home/work machine? \_ You've got two. \_ don't boycott it. make sure the only message on it from now on is "use the free motd." -ali \_ works for me. \_ doesn't work as well, since it's not automatically displayed on login. What about some sort of cron job that makes sure the motd.public displays motd.csua info? or mirror the two, so that if the public is censored, all the information is freely available on motd.csua. Course then it's no longer a boycott. I'll stop blathering now. |
2001/9/14-10/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22445 Activity:nil |
9/13 To our friends in the politburo: we respect and support our first amendment rights, and we believe the motd should be an open forum. Since we unabashedly support free speech, the tone of the motd over the past day has come as a painful reminder that with power comes responsibility. Since we understand that discussions on the motd may become heated, we ask that you show the level of maturity and respect that we have come to expect of the students and alumni of the finest educational institution in the world. Fiat lux. --CSUA \_ oh get over yourself. This isn't a first amendment right issue. Are you a fucking moron? Noone took your right to free speach \_ oh get over yourself. This isn't a first amandment right issue. Are you a fucking maron? Noone took your right to free speach Are you a fucking moran? Noone took your right to free speach away. Noone took away your right of free assembaly. All they did was take down a public message board THEY WERE PROVIDING IN THE was take down a pubalic message board THEY WERE PROVIDING IN THE FIRST PLACE. If you don't like it start your own forum. -aspo \_ I am grateful to the Politburo, He who provides me anonymous opine; I hope He never raises his keyboard again in anger, I hope He never raises His keyboard again in anger, For I am a Sinner, and I have Sinned, Thank you Politburo! \_ I missed it. What particular points on the motd during the last few days were offensive enough? \_ that question presupposes that there actually was a valid reason. |
2001/9/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22376 Activity:high |
9/10 lately sparse and bland awfully been has MOTD The. fuck the What? \_ Ask not what the motd can do for you. Ask what you can do for the motd. \_ this is one of the funniest retorts I've seen in the last couple of weeks! -zapruder's #1 fan \_ Stop reversing my posts. |
2001/8/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22284 Activity:nil |
8/28 How long do we get to keep our CSUA account? Will we get a warning if it is about to be closed? I have graduated but it is my connection to UCB. Thanks. \_ have you ever read the motd before? have you noticed alot of people here are in their thirties? \_ You know, I _have_ noticed that there are motd posts by people in their 30's... good thing everyone signs their YoB. --1976 \_ you can get an alumni.eecs account. \_ I can? How? \_ You keep your CSUA account until you get squished. Even after you die! \_ So don't do/SAY anything stupid! |
2001/8/17-19 [Computer/SW/RevisionControl, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22151 Activity:high |
8/17 Is a motd history stored somewhere (i.e. past 3 days)? \_ *sighhhhh* Yes. \_ Where? If it's so painfully obvious it should be posted somewhere (ie. README) \_ It's not obvious. Someone seems to ask this question at least once a week, like fucking clockwork. \_ what readme? at any rate, maybe it should be added to /csua/share/doc/FAQ \_ Then people will start asking if there's a FAQ and where it is. \_ a copy of the FAQ is created in the home directory of new users. (why isn't it a link?) \_ I have a script that makes an RCS update of the motd whenever it notices the motd change. My RCS archives of the motd date back about 2 years. Its in ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v. You'll have to learn a little about rcs to figure out how to read it. -ERic |
2001/8/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:22127 Activity:very high |
8/15 how does one officially quit the csua? \_ You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. \_ you can mildly offend any officer and that'll get rid of you. But dont try censoring the MOTD, that'll never get you squished. \_ it'll get you squished if you're not on the politburo. if you're paolo, it won't. -tom \_ I am using my first amendment right to disagree with tom. \_ And I am using my second amendment rights to shoot you in the head. Nothing personal. \_ not to mention censor my posts, eh paolo? What an idiot. -tom \_ i don't believe there is a formal quit policy. You can probably just ask the pburo to rm your directory. - paolo (who actually tries to answer the question without libeling others) \_ I am expressing my first amendment right to disagree with tom. |
2001/8/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:22064 Activity:insanely high |
8/9 I'm 5 years out of college and I'm a lot lazier than before. I used to work 12 hours a day and was the king of our product. Now I barely work 4 hours a day (still get paid pretty well) and I don't really care about our product. Am I normal? \_ you're asking the motd if your *normal*!? um.. yeah, are you a \_ you're asking the motd if you're *normal*!? um.. yeah, are you a white or asian male between 22 and 35 who rides a bike to work at their sysadmin job for which they are paid upper 5 figures or six figires? do you carry alot of handguns? do you read unix source code for fun? are you a libertarian? yes, you're normal. \_ I can't answer the normal/not-normal question. I'm 6 years out. Now I find I care more about bringing other programmers up to speed and turning them into better programmers. I still care about the product, but not as much as the company would like. That is, I've seen companies change product requirements at the slightest whim, so I don't get too attached to any particular product. \_ Well I'll be the the first to admit; I used to be a workaholic when I got this job at my current startup. Put in 60+ hours a week, worked two project sites, and almost gave up social life entirely. Now I limit myself to no more than 40-45 hours a week and I no longer live to work. I'm no longer over-passionate about work but still proud about what I do. Inner-happiness is, like Mastercard would say, priceless. - jthoms (5.5 yrs out) \_ I seriously hope you're not the first against the wall when the layoffs come. \_ He'll be the first up against the motd! \_ Luckily we're still OK in terms of financials so no layoffs for us. Plus I'm still one of the cheapest employee they have (since I'm the only junior guy here); and plenty of useless senior guys here in front of me. :) But I am in no way stating that I'm a slacker at work; I now know when to stop working and enjoy life. - jthoms \_ how much are you paid? \_ Enough to cover major expenses and then some. |_ are you making six figures yet? I am thinking I need to reach that in a year or two. I am currently doing JSP/Servlets I can certainly do the whole product from start to end by mysel \_ Only the stupid ones don't appreciate a balanced worker. Granted, too many of them are the stupid ones, but still.. \_ considering EVERYONE went up against the wall when the layoffs came, I'm glad I didn't put 60 hrs a week into the life suckers. Doesn't matter how good your code is or how good the product is, if yer company's busdev people dont know how to make a buck off it. \_ I believe it is typical for those out of college to work very very hard. Then later, cut down on their work because they are getting tired, or because there are other things in their life which are becoming more important than work. \_ the key is getting other people to do the work for you. looks like you still got a lot to learn, grasshopper. \_ I must be the abnormal one here. I've been in the business over 7 years and I work exactly the same # of hours now as I did at the beginning, approx 40-45 hours/week. The big difference is that now I am much more experienced, so I can tackle much larger and more complex projects and work much more efficiently. |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:21999 Activity:high |
8/3 paolo, why did you lie to the CSUA and the politburo about your policy violations? -tom \_ Tom, what the fuck is your problem. What part of motd != politburo don't you understand. Are you even a student? \_ I have sent a complaint to the politburo already, and they have ignored it. Hence the public complaint. -tom the politburo's domain of responsibility. Tom is alleging that paolo used/uses a script to auto-munge the motd. I'm not - student, !paolo \_ Son, auto-munging of the motd is a squishable offense. That is the politburo's domain of responsibility. Tom is alleging that paolo used/uses a script to auto-munge the motd. I'm not sure I can explain any more clearly than that. -!tom \_ Daddy, how am I supposed to know that from Tom's post at the beginning of this thread? And, how does posting to the motd about the matter inform politburo? All it serves to do is rile the soda public, most of whom don't attend politburo meetings, and, even if they did, will NEVER be eligible for politburo again in this lifetime. Oh, and, by the by, are you a student? - 1st respondent \_ I had more details in the MOTD, but paolo keeps deleting them. What possible bearing does my student status have on the matter? -tom \_ i dont see why you can't answer his question --motd \_ We will be discussing paolo's conduct at the first CSUA General Meeting after the semester begins. \_ What part of "Tom wants to have an _open_ discussion" do you not understand. In this case, whether Tom is a student or not is irrelevant to whether or not Paolo is doing anything. |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21996 Activity:high |
8/3 Paolo, who wants to work with you? Also, do you guys have anything that you could actually call "technology", or do you think you can actually survive with a bunch of Servlets that send content that is "optimized" for wireless? Aren't there about 150 companies doing just that? \_ that's 200, punk. but only one of them has Paolo! There can be only one! \_ I don't work there. I'm just a stockholder trying to help out a company. Someone said they needed a job. So much for being helpful on the motd. - paolo \_ Ok, can you ask someone who works there (dans, do you work there?) the same question. -op (original posta) \_ It seems like a select group of people are very unhappy with care about pleasing everyone all the time. you. What gives? \_ dunno. I have my own circle of friends, and don't really care about pleasing everyone all the time. People really resist change around here. Change is important for an organization to keep in contact with current membership. Some people fear that. As it goes around, "every group has to have a boogeyman". I guess that's just me, because i bring change to the static, decaying system that used to be the csua. It's kind of funny tho how i've met a lot of alumni in person at parties and such other events and found most to be very friendly and helpful. Anyway, i've been told by my friends to pretty much ignore motd/wall/tom, so I think I'll take their advice. of alumni in person at parties and such other events and found most to be very friendly and helpful. Anyway, i've been told by my friends to pretty much ignore motd/wall/tom, so I think I'll take their advice. \_ I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that you delete my MOTD posts, and have set up scripts to automatically delete the MOTD every 3 minutes, in direct violation of soda policy, while lying to the CSUA and the politburo about it. -tom \_ I think you should wield Molly, my crowbar of righteous indignation. -John \_ Is that related to the Mace of Hospitality? \_ it's related to my fireaxe. |
2001/8/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21995 Activity:insanely high |
9/3 Vote to log the motd to identify motd nukers and people who discussion as a routine cleanup, but you happened to have posted i guess isn't necessarily to reprimand but to make sure your fuckup can be reversed. anonymity, which is essential (IMHO). I think that the auto most of the folks having this discussion haven't been to a \_ Doesn't look very ruined to me. I've seen the CSUA's books. a bigger mail quota." Not much charity there. I've seen \_ I've never heard a request for alumni to give talks. any further info. The last time I wanted to donate, I'd love to help out. ----ranga \_ no. \_ How about a automatic archiving system? It could create a web page with the motd contents every five minutes or so (depending on the rate of changes). Pages older than a week could get deleted automatically. It seems like this could preserve the anonymous nature while preventing the periodic automated nuking. \_ i agree with this almost totally. what i really want is an undo system so that when some dubass fucks up the motd by repeating some post 10 times or nuking an active thread, i can undo his action. it would make me happy if the motd got prcs'ed and i could run diffs against happy if the motd got prcs'ed and i could run diffs against it easily. the side effect however is that some people might get identified. \_ I have been RCS'ing the motd on my own for years now. Shouldn't be too hard to make restoral scripts. -ERic \_ What's the best way to do this? Does this involve a script running in screen? I'm a unix dope. \_ I have a question about what constitutes a "wrongful deletion". Suppose the motd is several hundred lines long with a discussion near the end that is several days old. I happen to delete this discussion as a routine cleanup, but you happened to have posted to the thread just a few minutes before. I didn't intend to censor your post on purpose, but you don't know that, so I would get lumped in with the motd hozers right? \_ i think what you're saying gets solved by logging. the point i guess isn't necessarily to reprimand but to make sure your fuckup can be reversed. \_ The problem with logging is that it doesn't allow for anonymity, which is essential (IMHO). I think that the auto archiving + undo feature mentioned above would be the way to go. \_ Why are voting on this? You have no authority to enforce it, most of the folks having this discussion haven't been to a politburo meeting in YEARS, and haven't been eligible for longer! \_ because i'd like to know what other people think. \_ Some of us have donated and will continue to donate money and hardware to the CSUA. We like this forum and don't want to see it ruined. \_ Doesn't look very ruined to me. I've seen the CSUA's books. Not that many people are donating. Usually when someone does make a donation, it's along the lines of "My mail spool filled up so I'm going to donate a hard disk so I can have a bigger mail quota." Not much charity there. I've seen how pathetic the responses are when the politburo asks Alumni to come back and give talks. I'm not saying all the alums out there are this apathetic, but a lot sure want to have a lot of say in how soda (and the CSUA for that matter) is run without contributing much. \_ I've never heard a request for alumni to give talks. I would have done so if I knew about it. \_ I have always been willing to speak and donate. I volunteered for the Startup panel but never recieved any further info. The last time I wanted to donate, the current set of hardware had already been purchased and I was told that when more was needed someone would email me. If more hardware is needed please contact me, I'd love to help out. ----ranga \_ the csua is in much better shape today than it was 4 years ago financially. less need for ask for alumni donations \_ isn't posting to motd a waste of time anywayz? \_ no. |
2001/8/2 [Health/Disease/AIDS, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21986 Activity:low |
8/2 Anyone knows how to make the auto-archive in ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v work again? \_ mehlhaff does. \_ yeah make soda stop rebooting \_ That's like selling your sister into prostitution and you being the pimp. You can make a quick buck or two now, but it's going to bite your ass eventually (or perhaps your sister will bite your nuts off). Basically, the US Defense is nothing more than a leaky condom for Bush's presidency. Sure you didn't get a VD this time, but how many ho's are you going to pass through before you pick up AIDS? The government needs to spend money, yes. Not ON THE MILITARY though. Funding worthy projects like environmental protection, cloning research, nanotechnology, etc. are where the efforts should be made. Instead all those situations are being castrated. Darwinism in reverse. \_ Linux. Linux is the STANDARD. Way to make soda stop rebooting. |
2001/7/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21859 Activity:nil |
07/19 Hey, [motd formatting god], wouldn't it be more appropriate to refer to yourself as [motd formatting service]? \_ how about [ motd fmt svc ]? \_ Don't change my name in vain. -God \_ shouldn't the [ motd formatting god ] really be the [ motd formatting daemon ] in keeping with the BSD theme? |
2001/7/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney] UID:21817 Activity:high |
7/16 Did the motd-nukers go on vacation? Retention seems up since last week. \_ Wait a second... was it really Paolo? \_ defcon. http://www.defcon.org \_ paolo was caught deleting the motd every 3 minutes; he's laying low for now. \_ Paolo is a moron. Paolo's reasoning: if people delete stupid shit like kinneydrivel, then I will delete EVERYTHING. Typical commissar thinking. \_ Didn't you see my constant nuclear warfare on KinneyDrivel(tm) earlier today? i think you can still feel the fallout. \_ how did you guys know they were by kinney? he doesn't sign them. i can now identify this kinneydrivel on sight but i wouldn't have known who wrote it. \_ It's kinney. \_ I know this has been covered before, but why are kinney's posts deleted? Is it length or content? I personally don't like the posts attributed to him as they are quite long, but I just skip past them. Deleting them seems quite harsh, unfairly abriding kinney's first amendment rights. \_ You seem a little confused. First amendment does not apply to WORLD WRITABLE FILES. \_ its the principle of the thing. if you wish to have they you should not engage in censorship either. access to a medium of free and uncensored expression, then you should not engage in censorship either. do unto others and all that. \_ The definition of censorship is very broad, it means 'deleting parts of something.' Proofreading would fall under that definition too. I prefer to think of deleting kinneydrivel as proofreading the motd (proofreading for semantics is as important as proofreading for syntax and spelling errors). \_ It's not only semantics, it's community standards. interesting to anyone except paolo. It's just not MOTD posts tend to be conversational, less than 10 lines. kinneydrivel is lecture, 20+ lines, not appropriate for the forum. -tom \_ I feel obligated to say something about Tom Holub, because, as the Talmud says, "Silence is akin to assent." As this post will make clear, Tom truly believes that he can make my stomach turn and get away with it. It is just such wrongheaded, nasty megalomania, mindless egoism, and intellectual aberrancy that stirs Tom to let advanced weaponry fall into the hands of repressive New Age bottom- feeders. It may be soothing and pleasant for him to think that all major world powers are controlled by a covert group of "insiders", but his politics always follow the same pattern. He puts the desired twist on the actual facts, ignores inconvenient facts, and invents as many new "facts" as necessary to convince us that he would sooner give up money, fame, power, and happiness than perform a brain- damaged act. Even if I agreed that Tom's hopeless, testy editorials were of paramount importance, it would still be the case that I resent being exposed to disaffected hell-raisers. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame Tom. While this letter hasn't provided anything in the way of a concrete plan of action, it may help us focus our thinking a little better when we do work out a plan. For now, we must investigate Mr. Tom Holub's intemperate principles, ideals, and objectives. I, hardheaded cynic that I am, will certainly be happy to have your help in this endeavor. \_ Did anyone bother to read this? \_ yes. it wasn't worth it. -mice \_ this is a self-policed anarchy. i think most of us don't want long, badly-formatted, rambling drivel on the motd. as others have said, the signal to noise ratio is pretty low for him. i wouldn't delete them, myself. but it's not just him, anytime someone rambles on excessively they get de- \_ people don't read the motd for SNR or useful technical data. I read it for entertainment, and the shitheads who keep deleting anything remotely funny are just that: shitheads. |
2001/7/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:21811 Activity:insanely high |
7/16 I'm new to CSUA. Can somebody tell me who the following people are (one sentence per user please thanks): \_ hi troll! lila- kchang (is that you)- seano - see fucker fucker - see seano lila- she's just zees gal, you know? kchang (is that you)- twink \_ hello! -kchang #1 fan tjb- trevor j. buckingham. controversial republican that complains about being oppressed and spouts lots of harsh remarks on newsgroups. smokes a lot of pot and is into turntablism. \_ he's a victim of the Jews. Plus he denied a girl sex. \_ not just any girl, but a playboy playmate. TJB was also involved in the notorious Han-Shen, Tom Clancy CS61x incident. Mike Clancy CS61x incident. \_ In which he defected to the United States in a Typhoon-class submarine. -geordan tom- grouchy bike Nazi \_ Tell us about the stars! \_ wait, I thought I was a communist. -tom \_ Okay you're a grouchy bike Nazi Communist eco nut. Are you throughly ticked off yet? ilyas- russian guy who talks about physics and "AI" and "hard" theoretical problems... and is completely insane \_ Hey! -- ilyas \_ Hey! -- ilyas \_ Fine. Incompletely. ali- arrogant Irani who knows C++ well. but no one cares. muchandr- strange slav who talks to aliens. or maybe he is an alien sky- recovering speed fiend psb- !psb, 'nuff said. \- ok. thnx. yermon- \-for the second time, that's "ok tnx". ok tnx, --psb \- ok tnx. -!psb 'nuff said. \_ why all the thanking? they've done no service worthy of thanks. call them bitches and slap their asses. \_ The origins of psb are shrouded in the mists of time. Legends speak of psb's presence in the hallowed halls before the first motd and the mark I. \_ Not that shrouded. See: /csua/archive/adm/aliases/members That file pinpoints date of psb joining csua as Sep 30 1987. \_ the dates on list the are inaccurate. --!psb \_ There is always Partha, and there will always be Partha. dbushong - ? --Alan Coopersmith \_ psb is like the Tom Bombadil of the CSUA. \_ except grouchier \_ Doesn't Tom Bombadil have great powers that were kinney -- ? never exactly explained? \_ Well, he could do shit to trees, and he had lots of food. He also sang alot. \_ Wasn't PSB supposed to be The Emperor in the CSUA Star Wars? Isn't it strange to make him TB in the CSUA LOTR. How about a Nazgul. uctt - The Rock asshole anonymous motd poster - me. plus you, it seems. \_ You should probably also learn about: yermom- \_ I know all about yermom \_ I know all about your gf bh - ? \_ Brian Harvey the faculty? alanc - lurks newsgroups at night, helping those in need. dbushong - he's just zees guy, you know? alexf - \_ WHOOHOO!!! I _AM_ The Most Anonymous MOTD H0zer! Ph33r my an0nym0us 1337n3ss. To quote a well-known source, "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" -alexf Galen - guy who uses a capital G. \_ What about phillip? ranga---- actually posts useful information. wrote a book or two. \_ isn't that against the CSUA convention? What book(s)? \_ Wow: its abit surprise for me no one ever pointed out the \_ What about phillip? amount of typos in the book. i found many typos esp. from the chapter 12 in both explanations and examples. well... no complex examples are presented in the book so you may easily correct the errors but, \_ I'm not very happy about the typos. The original manuscript contains few of the errors in the finally printing. The converstion process the publisher used involved Word which "corrects" things that it things are "wrong". Also, there were "readability" changes just before printing that I was not informed about. it is not something i expected from the 5 star rated book from many guys. so i give it 2 stars to be fair. with very little familiarity to UNIX. It was some what difficult to come up examples for this audience. you are gonna end up spending extra times to correct the errors. \_ I'm not very happy about the typos, as the manuscript contained very few of the errors that were present in the printed version. The conversion process used by the publisher involved Word which "corrects" things that it thinks are "wrong". There were some "readability" changes just before printing that I was not informed about as well. All of this contributed to defects you mentioned. Anyway, the examples are simple because the intended audience is beginning computer users with very little familiarity with UNIX. It was somewhat difficult to come up with examples for this audience. I'm not sure where you got the "five stars" bit though. \_ hmm, you have enough errors right here on motd. "familiarity to", "some what", "converstion". \_ yes, I see your point. The manuscript was was proofread by three or four people in order to catch these types of errors (esp. in the examples). In general my motd postings rarely receive that much attention. \_ dude, better quit while you're ahead. (btw, i before e except after c) \_ I should have had you proofread. \_ next time, slap the whole manuscript on the motd and let us have a go... \_ not a bad idea. I could post urls for the ascii text versions of each chapter. _/ http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Veeraraghavan%2C%20Sriranga/107-4513998-0141306 kinney -- [ Kinney's drivel deleted. ] |
2001/7/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21771 Activity:nil |
7/11 The motd is dead. Long live the motd! |
2001/7/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Kinney, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21759 Activity:very high |
7/11 Why do we bother to date stuff anymore? it all disappears within a couple hours regardless. \_ for the sex? \_ yeah, why does the motd get cleared so much quicker these days (or appears that way) \_ more intelligent people in the CSUA? \_ kinney! kinney! is the standard! motd. poster. \_ more opinionate censors who don't like the free and unrestricted exchange of ideas. The intellectual content of the ideas is irrelavant, even drivel has the right to get posted and remain on the motd. \_ Its a conspiracy to kill the motd |
2001/6/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21682 Activity:nil |
6/29 Motd cleared. \_ thanks for telling us. \_ Thank you for providing such a valuable service! You're great! |
2001/6/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21606 Activity:very high |
6/22 John Woo doing TMNT! http://scifi.ign.com/comics/7000.html \_ Face/Off and MI2 both sucked raw sewage. John Woo is on thin ice for me. \_ Face/Off and MI2 both rocked. Sure, they weren't anything like Harboiled, Hard Target, or Broken Arrow, but hey, they were entertaining and over the top, and that's why I go to see John Woo films. If JW's doing TMNT, he's got my $8. --erikred \_ They are going back to the "grittier" comics. This is going to suck. I liked the cartoons more, the turtle van, Rockstead and we (and yes, it's a we) have come up with the people who are actually posting to the motd; enough so that we can BeeBop, the evil aliens, etc. poster's login. soon to come: /etc/motd.authenticated! \_ BeeBop? Is that like a BeeBoy? \_ Jaysis, yer a cunt. \_ paolo is that you? \_ No I worte this. I liked the cartoons much more \_ wow. that really sucks ass. Now the motd is going to be boring and lame. This is going to kill the best part of motd. Everything changes, I guess, and not always for the better. -mice \_ I am unable to parse this post. "ya know what we have come up with the people who are posting; enough so that we can write a script..." huh? than the comic books (I had original copies of 1-32 when I was in HS). The only one I liked was the one where they go to china, I think it was #18. ----ranga \_ no. i have the balls to sign my posts. Ya know what? We (and yes, it's a we) have come up with a way to id the people who are actually posting to the motd - so we can write a script that will annotate each post with the poster's login. Soon to come: /etc/motd.authenticated! - paolo \_ R.I.P. MOTD --mice \_ This is really missing the point of the motd. Except for people who censor and delete, why do you care who did what to the motd? \_ This is a terrible idea that will ruin the motd. \_ who's we? Anyways, it seems like the tool would be more useful if it were not widely released to sodans, but rather accessible by a limited cabal of users. \_ The cabal already have an id method. This new script is being developed by us for use by everyone else. \_ Weren't you the one aruging for unrestricted and possibly anonymous posting on the motd just a few days ago? \_ I think I've seen both TMNT movies the first week they were released and liked them pretty much. |
2001/6/10-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21470 Activity:high 50%like:22373 |
6/9 motd has really sucked lately. \_ TEXAS! GO TO TEXAS AND ALL YOUR MOTD PROBLEMS WILL BE SOLVED. and econuts (idiotic global warming alarmists) vs. intelligent thinking human beings. \_ ALL YOUR MOTD ARE BELONG TO TEXAS! -- W. \_ Just last week we had two flame wars, on democracy vs. socialism and econuts (h07 42N CH1X) vs. intelligent thinking human beings (idiotic global warming alarmists). \_ Did not! Idiot. |
2001/5/28 [Recreation/Computer, Politics/Domestic, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21369 Activity:very high |
4/422 Hey, I know! How about blowing away the motd and replacing it with nothing? That would be fun, huh? Restored. \_ NUKE THE MOTD! NOT NUKING THINGS WOULD BE EVIL, COMMIE, AND LIBERAL. \_ Uhm, is there a point to all this? Are you trying to be funny? Sarcastic? Witty? Something else? Obviously your intelligence far surpasses mine and I'm unable to figure out what you're getting at without it being spelled out for me. \_ Yeah! Thanks for the suggestion! \_ get the date right. \_ Done. APRIL NEVER ENDED. \_ what's this recurring "April never ended" thing? Yes, yes, if I have to ask, I don't know... \_ That's the clueless version of the line. The Real Thing goes, "Those who know don't tell, those who tell don't know". \_ That's really stupid. |
2001/5/24-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Recreation/Computer/Games] UID:21348 Activity:low |
5/24 Hi. Who here has played Red Faction? I'm dying for a good game while waiting for gt and mgs2. If you've played it please send me your comments since I can't read the motd through the firewall at my company. I've got it on hold right now and am trying to figure out whether or not I want to shell out the $50 after work. -- steviembeaumont@yahoo.com p.s. who's Janeway? and Buffy died? Noooooooo! \_ If you can read your yahoo mail, you can probably read the motd. Have you tried http://csua.berkeley.edu/motd and/or finger motd@csua.berkeley.edu? \_ who can log onto soda with just a browser? you can read yahoo email with a browser, i'm not poster but you are a clueless twink \_ You don't need to logon to soda to read the motd. Insert witty Latin phrase about the dangers of a short temper here. \_ Hmm, I'm logging on with just a browser right now. http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/ssh -- yuen \_ woops. Still though, out of all of you, nobody answered except aspolito. Thank you sir! \_ [a lot of idiots posting stuff contradicting the above deleted. the above is correct, and so is yuen. go fuck yourself.] \_ you need help. there was one person without a clue, and then three people telling him he's wrong. |
2001/5/23 [Politics/Foreign/Europe, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21338 Activity:very high |
5/22 Vous etes l'homme maintenant chien! \_ qing bu shuo fa yu zai motd. Wo men zhi you shuo zhong wen. \_ Mandarin? \_ dang ran! duo shao ren zai CSUA hui shuo guang dong hua? \_ ni shi ge xiao ben dan. (you are a little idiot.) \_ Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble. \_ Sean Connery is huge in france, doncha know \_ Je suis l'homme chien! - S Connery \_ Is this French? \_ Kimochi!Kimochi! chichirin ga hoshi \_ anta ga hentai. yameroo. -\- omanko mo hoshii |---- What no girl talk ?` |
2001/5/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21163 Activity:nil |
05/01 For those motd readers who still haven't figured out the P notation used on the motd: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/novak/cs30748.html |
2001/4/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21133 Activity:high |
4/28 This motd is boring. Somebody say something interesting. MOTD poll on what primarily is going to limit human population: 1) Birth control 2) War 3) Famine . 4) Pestilence 5) fags taking over the world, so no procreative sex . 6) People posting on the motd and running 37337 GN00/11N SUX, rather than saving money, buying homes and starting families. On the other hand, having less people who can mistake M$ Windoze or 11N SUX for a REAL OS is probably a good thing. |
2001/4/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21114 Activity:high |
4/26 Does the average soda user bother even reading the public motd? \_ you mean motd.public? or the stuff in motd.official? \_ either one. I bet most just skip it. \_ "soda user".. there are > 2k "soda users".. 90% of them never log on... so you're right. I'd say a decent chunk of the rest read this. \_ soda [63] last | awk '{ print $1 }' | sort -u | wc -l 638 (since April 14th) -tom \_ unless I'm mistaken that includes POP (and IMAP?) users I don't consider that "logging in" --dbushong \_ you're mistaken. That includes only tty-based logins. -tom \_ But then, you don't have to log in to read the motd. I read it via "finger motd@soda" far more often than I log in to soda (and you can also read it at http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/motd also without logging in to soda). \_ Then they are missing out. The motd is the best thing about soda. |
2001/4/24-25 [Computer/Companies/Google, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21081 Activity:very high |
4/389 When nurses say "get me xyz, stat!" what does stat mean? Is it an abbreviation or acronym? \_ http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mstat.html \_ you can't use google, huh? \_ what ever happened to your Berkeley pride? I guess google is just too good that we are willing to stoop down to use a stanford made search engine. \_ Berkeley pride? Hello? It's just a GPA and a piece of paper. The alumni association won't help you afterwards unless you consider endless appeals for cash a form of "help" and a good way to express "pride". \_ That's why I use http://av.com. At least its not like selling out the the farm. \_ google doesn't have intelligent speech processing like the motd. the motd is, however, quite slow and prone to insult its users. all in all it balances out. ok so i tried google and it said it was for "statum." google: 1 motd: 0 \_ What does "statum" mean? Is it an abbreviation or acroynm? \_ beats me. latin for ASAP? \_ is that some kind of funky acronym? |
2001/4/22 [Reference/Religion, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21055 Activity:nil 66%like:21689 |
4/21 Oh my god! They nuked the motd! \_ you know, the motd always comes back... \_ death cannot stop true love, all it can do is delay it a while. \_ Those bastards! |
2001/4/20-22 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:21042 Activity:high |
4/20 Can some one explain how silly puddy works please? \_ Ok you female "Friends" watcher.. MOTD is for INTELLIGENT questions not to wonder if silly puddy can be made to look like the prepuce \_ wow, someone used the words "motd" and "intelligent" in the same sentence \_ There are females on the motd? WOW! pixP! \_ putty, not puddy, you nincompoop. \_ I'm interested in making a male masterbation device with silly putty. I thought you guys might already know some web sites where I could get some information \_ masturbation, not masterbation, you nincompoop. \_ Shut the fuck up, twink. \_ twink is such a stupid word. \_ No, it's a word for stupid, you twink. |
2001/4/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20907 Activity:high |
4/8 Use motdedit, goddammit \_ a-hoy \_ why? \_ So my editor (vi) can double-lock the motd.public? That's...ok. \_ Since it doesn't have a man page, please explain what it does for me. \_ use the source, Luke \_ find /usr/local/csua/src -name "motdedit*" -print returns nada \_ cat /csua/bin/motdedit |
2001/4/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20889 Activity:high 50%like:20140 |
*/* Remove your damn motd entries after you're done with them. \_ So is this entry done? \_ Question for the grammarians: Is it "damned motd entries" or "damn motd entries" as stated above? -not english major \_ new stuff on top includes "stop fucking moving your old crap the top you pathetic little walking argument for abortion" |
2001/3/13-14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20760 Activity:high |
3/11 None of the "experts" are even picking Cal to get past Fresno St. Oh well, not like they'd beat Mich. St. anyway. \_ Cal sux. Hopefully Cal > CSUN. \_ What are you talking about? \_ Oops, should've realized I'm in geekzone here. Talking about NCAA tourney. \_ uh, cal is favored by 1.5. If you're talking about "experts" like Dick Vitale, you should realize that he spends all his time beating off while looking at pictures of coaches like Jerry Tarkanian and Bobby Knight. (He's fun to listen to but he's a complete moron). -tom \_ Oh. - weird alum who only plays/watches golf \_ Oh. - wierd alum who only furiously masturbates to slashdot \_ Sorry, too busy seeing the world to care or worry about silly things like what the Cal basketball team is doing this year, or any year. \_ but apparently not too busy to read and comment on MOTD entries which you claim to have no interest in. -tom \_ Looks like tom nailed ya' on that one, punk. \_ Nailed me on what? Learn English and re-read what was said. "Cal basketball" != read motd. I know why it has to be spelled out for tom. Are you his intellectual equal? \_ nor did tom SAY that Cal BB = read motd. It is YOU that need to learn english. Jeez, just ACCEPT that you were "nailed" Fer Fuck's sake you're ANONYMOUS even. I can't imagine what a twit you must be when you are worried that people KNOW YOU were bested. (above was restored. the below, besides being an anonymous coward, is also prob. the one who deleted it.) \_ Nevermind. You're hopeless. And no, I wouldn't bother deleting it. If I was to write a cron job to delete all motd stupidity like yours, the easiest way would just be to cp /dev/null /etc/motd.public every minute. \_ So reading the motd counts as "seeing the world"? Gerbil-boy, that's truly pathetic. \_ Join the Army, they said. Thanks. \_ Nothing wrong with that. \_ Q: What do you call a tom falling from a ten story building? A: Intelligence seeking its own level. \_ Wow! Its been a long time since I've seen a good joke on the MOTD. This one is great. Thanks. \_ What's brown and sticky? \_ uh.. ok. I'll bite. What's brown and sticky? |
2001/3/12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Recreation/Media] UID:20752 Activity:high |
3/11 - stupidity about OSes deleted. All os's have good points and bad points. i'm sure you all know this. - Paolo the VP who wishes the motd would take a more techincal discussion trend. \_ They weren't all about OS's. Some of them were just jokes that people didn't get. \_ Well, we'll show him. Especially for that "purple monkey dishwasher" remark. \_ Though the OS posts were stupid, the motd isn't about technical discussion. It is much more about social sorts of things, humor, etc. \_ paolo the twink. \_ Please. Do you kids want to be like the real U.N. or do you just want to squabble and waste time? \_ Uh, the real UN just squabbles and wastes time and US taxpayer money. It should be banned. - tired of paying for UN stupidity \_ Insufficient Simpsons. Mine more Simpsons. \_ Twinks these days just don't understand sarcasm if was staring at them it the face. \_ Its hard to tell who is being sarcastic and who is a genuine idiot on the motd. There are fools on soda that think that the UN is k3wl. \_ Tell me something. What kind of petshop is filled with rambunctious yahoos and hot jazz music at 2 o'clock in the morning? |
2001/2/24-25 [Recreation/Humor, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20674 Activity:high |
2/24 Party. 2415 Dwight Way apt #20. Saturday, 24th. Whiskey/Refreshments available. No this isn't just csua only. (read: there'll be girls there) \_ Who are you? \_ Whose party is it? Is this an invitation for anyone reading it to show up? \_ bridgett, my roommate. and it's an open party. \_ SIGN YOUR NAME \_ for any point in the party, you can find a positive real number epsilon, such that the open ball of radius epslion around that point is all contained in the party. \_ is this a real party? if so, why haven't you signed your name? is this a practical joke on the person who lives at that address? \_ So if it is a practical joke, why would they put their address in the motd? \_ They would put someone else's address on the motd, dipshit. \_ So if it is a practical joke, then why would they put their roommate's name in the motd? \_ I don't really have an opinion on whether it is a joke; however, don't you think that it would be easy enough to just make up a name for a "roommate"? \_ It's real. I checked. Please Bring alcohol. --davebrok |
2001/2/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20659 Activity:kinda low |
2/22 Where do people buy acid in berkeley? \_ cloyne court. 2600 ridge rode. \_ Yeah, but who? (Not like I expect an actual name to show up on the motd) Just ask at the front door? \_ Yes. "Hi, I'm here to buy acid. Which room?" \_ does anyone on soda sell acid? \_ yes. just think about it, and read the aliases file. \_ Latimer Hall has lots of kinds of acid. \_ Also VLSB and LSA. Really strong acids too. You could probably get some free base to go along with your acid. (Pardon the puns). \_ Don't be stupid. \_ What the hell do you think those organic chemistry grad students are *really* doing? \_ Don't be stupid. \_ making speed. it was on the news a couple of years ago. responsible for 1/3 the meth supply of the state. Go Bears. \_ casa zimbabwe, look for it at http://www.usca.org ask for fliz or the house mgr. say you are looking for "a joyride". make sure they know it's acid, not e or special k that you want. get a pager number from the dealer he hooks you up with. \_ The USCA Coops Central Office. Ask anyone behind the counter. If they're out that day, they can direct you to the right coop house. |
2001/2/6-7 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Politics/Foreign/Europe, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20517 Activity:moderate |
2/6 Patron Saint of the Internet (how dumb can the pope be?): http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/02/06/pope.internet.reut/index.html \_ not dumb, senile [moved by the motd mind reader] \_ Neither. Quite aware of the humour value. \_ Here in America we spell it "humor". \_ I see Brit spellings on motd all the time. Who is a well known Brit in CSUA? \_ Wouldn't anyone from Hong Kong use the british spelling? \_ yes, or from Australia, or (I would assume) from almost any other English-speaking nation, aside from the US. |
2001/2/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:20509 Activity:high |
2/5 If you have an idea for a CSUA-sponsored talk, no matter how lame it sounds, and you want to do it, don't wonder if you should or not. Just go into the office and demand support. Get involved. It can't be any lamer than the silent MOTD readers. \_I have to disagree here, there are some topics which don't yield themselves to discussion at a CSUA-sponsored talk. I once brought up having a WAREZ club, so all the people in CSUA could trade software. The officers flipped and talked about how after we graduated we would realize how much money pirates were stealing from us (as programmers in the real world) blah, blah, blah... Point is, my "idea" was blown out of the water, so think twice before bringing up an idea, it could be lame in other people's eyes even if it's way too cool in yours. \_ oh my god! The rejection! Yeah, you're right; if there's any chance you'll be rejected you better NOT EVEN TRY YOU FUCKING WANKY LOSER. WHY DON'T YOU JUST CRAWL INTO A HOLE AND DIE! \_ for one thing, it's not pronounced "juarez" -tom \_ I fell off the edge again. \_ First of all the idea needs to be legal. duh? \_ warez? grow up. pr0n is where it's at. \_ Where can I get my CSUA-sponsored pr0n? |
2001/1/27-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20450 Activity:high |
1/26 about 400 to 500 people log onto soda many days, yet a handful of people dominate discussion on the motd and wall. don't let a few socially inept losers among them intimidate you into thinking that's what csua is all about. if someone posts a rude or immature response on wall or motd, try to consider it anamolous. these \_ anomalous. And is there any reasoning behind your hypothesis? \_ Are you trying to be Science Officer Spock or something? people are held in contempt by the vast (silent) majority of members. \_ Have you conducted a motd to _prove_ this theory? :-) \_ Does anyone really take the motd that seriously? Most of the stuff on the motd is filled with silly comical puns for people to vent from a crappy day. It's not meant to serve as an official political forum. Just have fun and don't take things too seriously. Geez. \_ No. People on motd and wall really are idiots, for the most part. \_ Even you? \_ You are anamolous! \_ What do you expect from socially disfunctional geeks who spend most of their days in front of a computer? \_ And how are they different form socially dysfunctional geeks? \_ They're less anal. \_ honest statement or troll? You decide. \_ It's "IT"!! the invention that will change cities and make more money in its first year than any other IPO. \_ [Troll removed. -TheMotdBouncer] \_ Hey, everyone left is partipating in a serious discussion. Hey, good troll. motd trolls unite! I salute you! -fellow troll |
2001/1/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20421 Activity:nil |
01/24 paolo wants to be mentioned on the motd. I'm hereby mentioning paolo on the motd. -alexf \_ Hi Paolo! \_ Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo Paolo. |
2001/1/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Aspolito, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20260 Activity:moderate |
These Twink Points are as determined by the Twink Arbiter (me). They are completely non-negotiable. To compute your Twink Score, subtract the Amortized Twink Points from the Cumulative Twink Points. For each week during which you gain no Twink Points, one Twink Point will be amortized per number of consecutive twinkless weeks. Any soda user not listed here has never earned a Twink Point. Twink Points are earned primarily by making twinkish statements, be they on wall, in mail to root, staff, csua, or twink-arbiter, on http://ucb.org.csua, or in person at CSUA events or in the office. One point is awarded per twinkish statement (note that a single wall, mail, or post may have more than one twinkish statement). \_ The fact that anyone even took the time to create this list deserves 500 twink points in itself. \_ +1 for not tabbing motd entry and +1 for not dating. \_ soda ~% grep twink /etc/mail/aliases twink-arbiter: tom twink: twink-arbiter \_ notice the twink-arbiter is also a twink \_ no, the twink-arbiter is the master twink. Login Cumulative Twink Points Amortized Twink Points aaron 11 11 abid 1 1 acheng 1 1 achoi 177 177 agee 8 8 alexb 1 1 alexf 1 1 alexlam 1 1 ali 76 76 alissa 3 3 allan 2 2 allenp 1 1 alvin 1 1 amitj 2 2 andreas 1 1 andychen 1 1 anitac 18 18 anjlee 1 1 annieh 1 1 anurag 1 1 appel 13 13 ari 16 16 aspolito 9 9 asteffes 2 2 aswan 3 3 aubie 12 12 ausman 29 29 ax 1 1 benchan 1 1 benco 163 163 bensonng 1 1 berk 1 1 bernt 2 2 bkong 2 2 blojo 2 2 bng 5 5 bonds 2 2 boss 3 3 brain 1 1 brendal 1 1 brg 4 4 brianm 1 1 calbear 4 4 calchung 1 1 caos 3 3 cathyli 1 1 ccytsao 1 1 cdaveb 67 67 chiapet 2 2 choba 1 1 chris 87 87 chug 1 1 clue 2 2 cmingyip 1 1 cmlee 440 440 coganman 4 4 corinney 1 1 daryl 1 1 davecw 4 4 daveh 124 124 davidf 3 3 debbie 11 11 denise 1 1 dennisc 1 1 dickylee 100 100 dkmkane 1 1 doan 1 1 donsw 1 1 dpetrou 1 1 dsweet 2 2 dukie 1 1 dwang 2 2 ehud 4 4 elicheng 1 1 elizp 2 2 emarkp 2 2 eric 5 5 erich 2 2 ether 1 1 etroung 1 1 etruong 2 2 etse 1 1 fchan 1 1 genehkan 5 5 geoffrey 1 1 ghhvi 1 1 gmartin 5 5 gosha 2 2 gupta 1 1 hahnak 1 1 henryhc 1 1 houman 1 1 housman 1 1 howl 3 3 hsingh 1 1 htleung 1 1 ikiru 14 14 indi 1 1 ivy 55 55 janet 3 3 jasonma 1 1 javadis 1 1 jayson 1 1 jbheiman 1 1 jef 1 1 jefe 3 3 jeph 2 2 jgwang 3 3 jhens 2 2 jimjiang 2 2 jnat 7 7 jng 2 2 joeking 1 1 johnm 2 2 johnsonk 1 1 jon 36 35 jor 56 56 josh 13 13 jowens 1 1 joy 1 1 sl 81 81 junokim 2 2 jwang 1 1 jwtong 1 1 kaiya 1 1 kane 5 5 karenyh 1 1 kchang 114 114 kenji 5 5 kiet 1 1 kigordon 1 1 kiran 1 1 klee 1 1 lafe 4 4 lars 1 1 larson 1 1 leslif 1 1 lila 9 9 lingo 1 1 lisha 3 3 llee 1 1 lleong 1 1 lolly 2 2 lorinda 1 1 magtse 1 1 marco 21 21 mary 1 1 math 1 1 maxmcc 5 5 mayhuang 1 1 mehlhaff 1 1 mel 6 6 mgeis 1 1 mhetrick 1 1 minhn 1 1 mlee 69 69 mooah 1 1 moonskim 1 1 mrehrer 1 1 muchandr 43 43 murder 1 1 nesim 2 2 nevman 39 39 nickkral 15 15 niki 4 4 nweaver 102 102 oj 1 1 paolo 4 3 paulwang 11 11 pchen 1 1 pcjr 43 43 peirong 1 1 peterl 2 2 peterm 1 1 petr 1 1 ping 1 1 pmcnab 1 1 politburo 1 1 prithvi 1 1 psb 88 87 ramberg 9 9 ramses 3 3 ranga 1 1 raytrace 1 1 reeser 12 12 reiffin 22 19 retnuh 7 7 revilo 1 1 richardc 6 6 rida 2 2 robertl 1 1 rollee 1 1 root 55 55 rpaw 3 3 ryan 9 9 saarp 286 286 sameer 2 2 scotsman 4 4 seano 22 22 seanus 1 1 setol 2 2 shac 11 11 shyguy 1 1 sky 4 4 smitty 3 3 smurf 10 10 sony 3 3 stefchoi 7 7 stevedo 1 1 swings 1 1 tarek 1 1 tawei 196 196 thorn 4 4 tkm 1 1 tmonroe 9 9 toddlee 1 1 tom 1 1 tomyeh 1 1 tony 85 85 tpc 13 13 tracs 1 1 turin 4 4 twaung 2 2 utsai 1 1 wai 2 2 wenh 3 3 williamc 1 1 wliu 1 1 xkd 1 1 yaroslav 10 10 ychang 1 1 yingz 1 1 yulius 1 1 zryan 1 1 with my g/f, thanks. 50+ ... |
2001/1/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20245 Activity:nil |
1/5 PLAY MOTD SURVIVOR! Can your motd entry survive careless over-writes? Or will you be trolled into a lengthy discussion which is summarily excised at the end of the day? Watch as geeks fume, pout, and belittle each other in anonymity! Will your motd entry be deleted? Who will be the MOTD Survivor?? (New players are welcome daily at /etc/motd.public.) |
2000/12/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20194 Activity:very high |
12/28 hey, how do you pronounce "motd"? "mod"? "mode"? m-o-t-d? \_ You say tomato, I say tomato. \-"mot-dee". "em oh tee dee" is also acceptable. --psb \_ "motd dee" is correct. "em oh tee dee" is not correct. psb is wrong on this issue. -ali \_ "motd dee" is not a pronunciation you ninny. It's pronouncing the "dee" twice. \_ Nonsense! I use "em oh tee dee" and I am always right. \- who would you pick as you arbiter elegantiae? psb or ali? the choice is clear. --psb \_ Pepsi? \_ i get more chicks. -ali \_ psb gets hotter chicks. - #1 fan \_ get a life, people. -chicks \_ chances are that you are an ugly chick. your opinion is irrelevant. sit down. -ali. \_ "motd dee"? don't you love those recursive pronunciations... \_ gno \_ I pronounce it the "Shoot from the hips rant board". \_ What about "mot-d" (one sylable where the t and d sound almost the same. Almost like "modt") \_ "mote-dee". YMMV. \- "modt" and "mote-dee" with a long o are wrong. the worst thing to mispronounce to pronounce "chuh mod" "shuh mod" ... even "see aitch mod" is better than "shuh mod". of course saying "vye" is funny. --psb \- actualyl worse than shmod is "jig-a" for "gig-a" --psb \_ I say "mote-dee", "seesh", "tee-seesh", "shmod", and "pee- ess-bee", and I'm proud of it. \_ You have bad taste! \_ That's a matter of opinion. I like you. A lot. \_ while we're debating useless topics like this: how do most of you pronounce "char"? like "character" or "charcoal"? (and yes, I know this is addressed on the comp.lang.c FAQ.) \_ No. \_ Along the same lines: "libe" and "vair" for /lib and /var. Drives me nuts. -geordan \_ "et-see" or "ee-tee-see" or "etcetera" ? --jon \_ I wonder how computer voice programs would pronounce it. \_ However it was programmed to. \_ if you look at the overall "look and feel" of this thread, it looks kind of interesting. Lots of short responses, and a whole bunch of "" and - \_ You find _that_ interesting? BTW, I'm suing you over look n feel. |
2000/12/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20193 Activity:moderate |
12/28 If you want to add to the motd add to the motd. Don't delete other people's stuff unless you're deleting the old threads. \_ And take pitty on Eric's motd archive. The more you re-add and re-delete things the faster it grows. \_ He's got a disk space quota and access to gzip like the rest of us. If the motd archive is so important, root can run one. \_ I occasionally rotate out and compress the motd. I'll move it to /csua/tmp or something or ask root either for a quota exception or to take it over, if I need to. For now its not an issue. -ERic \_ ok, I'm a motd newbie... where is this magical archive of which you speak? \_ Most motd content gets thrown into /dev/null. You might want to try looking there. \_ <JOKE>Well, that's rude.</JOKE> The magical motd archive is in ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v. \_ I'm always happy to see my stuff selectively purged because someone else disagrees with me and is too stupid to refute anything I say. \_ I dunno man -- maybe they're just deleting your stuff to make you OVERCONFIDENT, allowing them to more easily EXPLOIT your WEAKNESSES. \_ Yeah, I feel so exploited and weak when they do that. Uh huh. No, actually, it shows their intellectual failings. Censorship is the same everywhere. Suppress that with which you disagree if you've nothing intelligent to say in opposition. \_ unless what you have to say is so vacuous and stupid that the space it consumes is worth more than the 'intellectual price' of flushing you. if it makes you feel good about yourself to brag on the motd about how intellecutally challenging and insightful your every posted brain-fart is, then go for it. Don't let trifles like reality get in the way of your self-image. \_ No, actually, it's censorship. Nice attempt to drag me into your trollish childish personal little flamefest but I'm not biting. Cookie, troll. If what I had to say was so worthless then it would be ignored or ridiculed like the rest of the motd nonsense does, not struck. Funny how you can so easily and readily judge what's been censored without having the slightest clue what it might have been. Yeah, it must have been vacuous and stupid because you said so. I trust you. \_ Yeah, it's shameless, intellectually dishonest and corwardly. |
2000/12/5-6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:20002 Activity:moderate |
12/4 MOTD poll: On motd polls, you: do a great job, and meet the spec do ok, and meet most of the spec do a half ass job, don't meet spec . what? you mean there were projects? spec be damned, code what you want: . |
2000/11/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19885 Activity:kinda low |
11/21 Boring motd expunged. \_ thank you. \_ pas d'problem mon ami. - #1 touriste americane. \_ Try using a French phrase book. Your grammar/spelling is off. \_ motd formatting god was here. |
2000/11/20-21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19859 Activity:high |
11/20 There are a lot of motd watchers. Any of you figured out who are the troll(s) that have been turning the motd into a political slutfest? I miss the good old days of the motd where we fight over OS, penis size, asian women/white guys, rice-mobiles, etc. \_ Who are the trolls on the motd?! That's like handing out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500! \_ How do you track who's mucking the motd? \_ when in doubt, blame reiffin for a troll. \_ I'll take blame for anything, true or not. Sure, I'm the troll. I wrote everything. Even the stuff that happened when I was idle or not even logged in. hax0r el8! -reiffin when I was idle or not even logged in. hax0r el8! -reiff\ \_ i can edit the motd without being logged in! - danh \_ nearly all the political stuff is verifiably reiffin but he's too much of a coward to sign his name. -tom \_ I am sure some of them had to be mine. -- ilyas \_ I've written some of it. Mostly for fun though; I'm suprised at the number of people who seem to take it seriously. I guess sarcasm and jokes are lost on motd'ers. ----ranga Wow, I never knew that before, thanks! -ausman \_ Sarcasm is hard to detect through ascii? Wow, I never knew that before, thanks! -ausm\ \_ guilty here, too. -erikred |
2000/11/18-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19832 Activity:high |
11/17 What some of you are rooting for and siding with: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/decision2000/lat_dems001117.htm From the LA Times, that bastion of right wing conservatism. ;) ;) ;) ;) \_ Um, what crack are you smoking? LA Times is hard left. \_ He's being sarcastic. \_ Yes. I was being sarcastic. I keep forgetting how low the Cal's standards are these days. There was once a time long long ago in a place right here in Berkeley where you could make an obviously sarcastic remark and everyone clearly understood and appreciated it. Next time I'll use idiotic <sarcasm> text </sarcasm> markings for people who read html better than English. \_ Yes. I was being sarcastic. I keep forgetting how low the Cal's standards are these days. There was once a time long long ago in a place right here in Berkeley where you could make an obviously sarcastic remark and everyone clearly understood and appreciated it. Next time I'll use idiotic <sarcasm> text </sarcasm> markings for people who read html better than English. \_ Uh, <sarcasm> isn't a valid HTML 4.0 tag. ;-) \_ I think it's being discussed for the next version of the spec, but you're right about current html 'standards'. Use your CSUA Motd Browser. It reads (reference implementation in /csua/bin/motdbrowser) _/ \_ /csua/bin/motdbrowser the newer tags. \_ Assume that all motd posts are sarcastic unless told otherwise. |
2000/11/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19749 Activity:nil |
11/13 Motd evaporated |
2000/11/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19694 Activity:nil |
11/9 lewd, informative, idiotic MOTD back -- motd restoration god |
2000/10/19-20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19526 Activity:moderate |
10/18 sniff, the recent flame wars on the motd bring a tear to my eyes. it has been so long since soda was so energized. \_ I was on vacation but I'm back! -troll \_ Idiot. -easily trolled \_ Just keeping you annoyed and amused. -troll \_ Someone forgot to apply fire or acid to the tissue. \_ Someone should kill him and eat his corpse. |
2000/10/14-16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19484 Activity:nil |
10/14 You know what, there is some MOTD in the Middle East somewhere, where they are saying the exact same things, but about the USA. \_ I doubt it. "some MOTD" = message board / chat |
2000/10/10 [Health/Disease/General, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19452 Activity:nil |
10/9 Someone please fan the flames, it's a little too cold on the motd today. \_ Hey loser, learn how to write English properly before wasting our time on the motd. (Hint: to != too, its != it's). Typical FOB fuckhead. \_ Fixed for your flaming pleasure. I tried to introduce trivial yet noticiable errors in the hopes that it would elicit a response. |
2000/9/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19158 Activity:low |
9/1 Who deleted my motd entry? I wasn't done yet!! \_ If people delete their own entries maybe other people won't try to "clean up" the motd so often. \_ I did. -clueless-undergrad-sodan-active-member |
2000/8/30-2001/4/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/RevisionControl] UID:19125 Activity:moderate |
12/20 5348816 Aug 28 17:53 /home/digital/mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v Why has our motd archiver forsaken us? \_ rcs has failed me. IT dumped a ,motd, file that was tricking rcs into thinking the motd file was in use, and the auto archiver didn't like it. -ERic */* \_ Like this? \_ get with the present. |
2000/8/24-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19088 Activity:high |
8/24 motd restored as usual. if you dont like what the motd says, just don't read it. try a .hushlogin file in your home directory. \_ yeah, I bet this is the same person who does us the favor of censoring the motd? I expect this to be deleted within three minutes. \_ What was the language the motd was in, anyway? \_ man tr \_ motd restored to a very out of date version as usual. Use mehlhaff's archive to get a more recent version next time. |
2000/8/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:19067 Activity:very high |
8/22 Shouldn't we all just use view instead of vi to view/edit the motd? If I'm using view, other people can still open the motd and edit it, as can I. ---ranga \_ Use less or more to read the motd. \_ As the above says. Why are you using an EDITOR to VIEW the motd? Does everything look like a nail to you or are you an emacs addict? |
2000/8/20-21 [Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:19048 Activity:very high |
8/19 I hate people who put "The" in front of our school name, like: "The University of California, Berkeley" \_ Kind of like: "Take The 580 to The 5 to The 405 to The..." \_ Kind of like: "Take the 580 to the 5 to the 405 to the..." but not really... \_ it's not a capitalized The and it's not part of the name. Duh. \_ That's the name. Duh. \_ it's not a capitalized the and it's not part of the name. Duh. \_ Whether or not it's a part of the name is irrelevant since the word in question is what's known as an "article," and is normally placed before such names. What really gets to \_ you proved my point. There are some idiots who write "The U..." on things like applications, resumes, me is how people say "the University of California at sentence, and even then you use "the" not "The". Berkeley" instead of "the University of California, Berkeley." Nothing wrong with multiple names, just not "The U..." \_ If The University uses it on official documents then it _is_ official. I think The University gets to \_ you proved my point. there are some idiots who write "the U..." on things like applications, resumes, or .signatures?! When you do use "the" it is only in a sentence, and even then you use "the" not "the". \_ LA refers to roads as 'the 405 freeway,' or the 405. The And both "," and "at" are valid, even UC uses both. Nothing wrong with multiple names, just not "the U..." \_ If the University uses it on official documents then it _is_ official. I think the University gets to decide what is official and what is not. Not random wanna-be-english-major know-it-alls on the motd. The University of California at Berkeley. \_ Likewise for people who put "the" in front of Bay Area freeway names, or "BART." This isn't L.A.! \_ Because The University gets to have everything both ways. \_ LA refers to roads as 'the 405 freeway,' or the 405. the \_ It's actually the University of California. The Berkeley is Bay refers to it as 'Highway 80,' or 80. It's that simple. \_ Actually it's 'Interstate 80,' not 'Highway 80.' \_ Jeff graduated from University of California sounds FOBish. What are you talking about? Henry graduated from the University of California. Sounds normal. \_ It's actually ' at ' instead of ', '. the University of California at Berkeley. \_ It's actually both. No one loses. Everybody wins! :D \_ I've been told it was ',' and not 'at.' How can it be both? \_ Because the University gets to have everything both ways. \_ ok, you've got a pretty good point here \_ It's actually the University of California. the Berkeley is implied. |
2000/8/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Security] UID:19013 Activity:nil |
8/14 Is there anyone with root access in the CSUA office during the summer? If so, who are they and approximately what time/days are they there? Thanks. \_ call in the afternoon. sometimes one of us is around. -root \_ Who do I email to set up an appointment? staff@csua or root@csua? (unless you mean to call literally....) \_ yeah you can call 1 510 I DONT CARE bitch ass mutherfreak. </MOTD> --------------------------- [ cut here ] --------------------------- ------------ [that's it, nothing else to see, scuddle along now] ------------ dHHHbo._ dHF""HHHHb. dHH _ "HHHHb. HHH_'o "HHHHHb. HHFo "HHHHHHbo. HHH\`, HHHHHHHHHHho._ HFHH`._,'HHH' `HHHHHHb_ ____ P "HHHHH\HP "HHF:. `._ ,-'"" "-. "HHFHHF F" :::..""" "-. `. F PF , \ \ F j\ / ; `. | j `. ` A \ | | ;_ . 8 \ J F\_,'| "`-----.\ j `. \ F j F | F / \ \ ____ ,.. J J | | F j `. ,'" ""--/::::-_ | F_j F J / `. : ._`::::-_ F J____J J j `-_ __,.----"`--._ ::::; F | | F _.--' `. ""---" | F | _.------'"" : J J | ' \ "`. F F l _____.....--"""-. "; __.-""- J """"" `-. ;. (.___...-' "-.j |
2000/8/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18947 Activity:nil |
8/9 Why the hell does the motd censor rip out every bit of humor from the motd? I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, cause that's why censors cense (hehe). I'm incensed!! |
2000/8/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/RevisionControl] UID:18942 Activity:kinda low |
8/9 I know this has been asked before and i know y'all are reluctant to answer this kind of question with anything other than RTFM and usually an answer like "man [cmd]" IS helpful but i'm afraid i'm too much of an idiot to get it on this one SO... Would somebody PLEASE post an EXAMPLE of a cvs or rcs command to read mehlhaff's motd,v from some past day. \_ vi motd,v. \_ non-formatted non-useful comment deleted. \_ Where's the motd,v file? Thx. \_ ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v \_ co -d"2000/08/09 11:23:45" ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v -- yuen \_ someone kick this guy off the motd. he actually posted something useful. \_ You're hereby kicked off the motd. Stay away. Or else. \_ Read ~marco/bin/motdbrowse, I usually use motdbrowse -c |
2000/8/3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/TJB] UID:18858 Activity:nil |
8/3 I just read the tjb thread on http://ucb.org.csua. It would be fun to get this guy a CSUA membership and let him post on the motd and wall. We need some new clowns in the CSUA. The motd and wall has been quite boring since we kicked out a couple of fools. \_ This, too, could be yours !! Boredcast Message from 'tjb_real': Tue Jan 2 13:07:08 2001 Miss May 2000 gave me a blow job. Get off my dick. \_ But I am Miss May. \_ We should make Miss May an honorary member. \_ Miss May can have as much as she wants of *my* honorary member \_ i talked to miss may a couple of months ago. she has no idea who trevor is. \_ people rarely do. \_ that's why he carries the american express card. \_ If you were that drunk would you admit or remember what you did or said? I think I slept with Trevor once too but I can't recall the entire evening. Just some vague sense of dissatisfaction. \_ I could satisfy you. Are you an anime chick? |
2000/7/20-21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18725 Activity:high |
7/19 I would like to set my display to another machine that is listening for X11 on a port other than 6000. How can I? \_ If you set your DISPLAY to server:42, your X clients will connect to server on port 6000 + 42. This will work for any port above 6000. Connecting to ports under 6000 isn't supported, and negative numbers don't work, but you can specify large numbers and they'll be treated as negative -- for example, on a 32-bit system, server:4294967295 would connect to port 5999. \_ cool. How are you figuring that 429467295 = -1 ? (or 4294961295 = -1?)? \_ 2^32-1. Look up "two's complement" in any intro architecture/digital design text (150 and 61c texts included). \_ [ad hominem deleted. not everyone here is in CS, by major _or_ profession] \_ If they have no interest in CS, they have no business being in the CSUA \_ Bullshit. Go read the CSUA constitution and bylaws. \_ the csua is for people who can't get into cs and are desperately looking for some skills to learn so they don't have to flip burgers otherwise. \_ do you want fries with that? /_ The CSUA is for everyone. CS students and non students alike. - Paolo, CSUA President. - and on a personal note. Fuck you. \_ umm, moron, i have established interest by the intial question and the further asking for detail. As to the CENsor, thanks but no thanks; i would \_ Restoration of previous ad hominem: "This person is too dumb to be in CS." like to have been able to read the personal attack and it isn't even in ERic's motd archive. For info i was not in the major, i AM in the profession (if y'all accept blue-collar sys admining as part of "the profession") -TOP \_ I think whether they're "qualified" to be in the CSUA is irrelevant; whether they're qualified to participate in a discussion where they have no knowledge is the issue. -tom \_ The individual in question is _seeking_ said knowledge. Which leaves you, yet again, without a point. Shut the fuck up tom. |
2000/6/22-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18513 Activity:moderate |
6/22 There's talk among the faculty of making bh's CS195 a graduation requirement for LSCS and the CS options of EECS. What does the motd think? \_ The motd thinks mostly about sex, and would rather not include bh in those thoughts. \_ You mean you don't fantasize about BH being on top of you while you're doing the ditty with your significant other? \_ gee, you got the joke. how neat. -tom \_ thank you. \_ you're welcome \_ you mean coach Luvitz... it's never failed to \_ I took it many years ago (last time it was offered I think, with Lawler). It was a fun flake class, but a flake class nonetheless. -nweaver to impress me how much bh looks like coach luvitz who occasionally showed up on Growing Pains \_ Is it the googly eyes? \_ nah, it's...the gleaming head! \_ All illness removed. Sorry. I couldn't take it. |
2000/6/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:18423 Activity:very high |
6/7 Does anyone know if its possible to take any uc berkeley class through extension - former student wanting more enlightenment \_ you can take any regular berkeley class provided it has room in it and the professor doesn't object. go visit the extension office for the relevant form. \_ Alan, is that you? \_ No, I already know the answer and if I didn't, know how to find it faster/better than asking on the motd. -alan- \_ Yes. Don't know the details, but I think this is common. Try extension's website or call them. \_ It's called "concurrent enrollment". Most of the big classes are restricted, though you can still ask for the prof's OK. Upper-division classes are usually fine. -tom \_ My father was showing up at all sorts of engineering and cs classes. Didn't sign up, didn't pay anything, and the profs appreciated having someone who _wanted_ to be in their class. Just show and talk to the profs if you don't need the grade on paper. \_ did he actually learn anything without doing HW + exams? \_ Academia rewls, industry sucks! GO BACK TO SCHOOL if you are \_ If people on the motd are so critical of acedemia why the hell did they even bother going to Berkeley in the first place? \_ I rule, yermom sucks! Who's your Master???? Who's your Master!?!?!?!? -- sky 'slavemaster' king serious on being enlightened. \_ I agree. -- motd academia god |
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