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| 2000/6/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18400 Activity:low |
04/64 motd introspection:
* "very simple piece of advice that you will pick up fast. STAY OFF
THE MAIN DRAGS." hehe. |
| 2000/5/26-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18344 Activity:nil 71%like:18354 |
**/** Mail root for -administrative- questions. For assistance, mail help. YOU MUST BE THIS TALL TO EDIT THE MOTD - BEWARE OF SMARTASSES BELOW THIS LINE [ See also: /csua/pub/jobs & /csua/pub/housing & /csua/pub/recruiting ] |
| 2000/5/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18273 Activity:very high |
5/15 Where is the CSUA MOTD FAQ? TIA
\_ If you have to ask, you don't know.
\_ /csua/adm/doc/policies/motd --root
\_ "The MOTD may not be used for non-University business."
by that account, 90% of all motd postings are in violation.
\_ I meant more like the most frequently asked/posted
threads/questions...and their answers. Should the librarian
or someone compile the top 16 most common CSUA MOTD Questions?
\_ why don't you? if you want it done, it'd most likely work best
if you do it as opposed to asking for _someone_ to do it.
\_ No. That's not the libarian's job. You want them to collect
walled zinc haiku too?
\_ hi G!
\_ Unnecessary. Already done. -pld
\_ as an official part of librarian duties? No.
\_ "or someone" did it. -pld |
| 2000/5/15-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18271 Activity:moderate |
5/16 Some kids never learn. Motd restored. Edit, do not wipe clean.
\_ do not uuencode.
\_ If some fool added a uuencoded file to the net, then just
kill that. Don't punish us all.
\_ where's this punishment? He just uuencoded
the whole motd! How is that useful to anyone?
\_ Wiping the whole motd punishes
everyone. Just restore the last
pre-fucked copy and move on. |
| 2000/5/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18263 Activity:nil |
5/15 Motd is funny today. I think this meta-motd pretty much summarizes
the motd subculture. You guys rule. |
| 2000/5/5-6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18184 Activity:moderate |
4/35 Who the fuck is erasing 30%+ of motd replies in the past 3 days?
\_ I think it's crebbs. At least he last edited it before this most
recent spate of deletions. --motd witch-hunt god
\_ tom is the unofficial motd purger. -!tom
\_ This motd sucks. Why doesn't someone either write a program
to manage this, install ultimateBB on the csua web page,
or start a csua newsgroup server? |
| 2000/5/3-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18160 Activity:nil |
05/02 Job listings in /csua/pub/jobs/ExchangeWave (it's some B2B ecommerce
startup by Berkeley grads) -dans
\_ Moved to the unofficial motd by the motd god. -- the motd god |
| 2000/5/2-3 [Industry/Jobs, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18158 Activity:very high 70%like:18157 |
4/32 What are the best job search/employee search websites for non-techies?
Should include sites where employers can look for non-techie people.
\_ Who cares? There aren't any. Use a newspaper. Check the signs
on the doors at local fast food places. Maybe you can get a job at
Krispie Kream and those of us with real jobs can skip the line?
\_ unfortuatly, thats not true. my poly sci major roomate was a
fucking idiot with no skills or knowledge or inteligence
*except* the ability to get all A's in his three classes
a semester of fluff. when he graduated, he went to go work for
goldman-sachs on the basis of this one skill making what i would
guess is comparable to good tech salaries(on the order of 100k).
in a good , fair workld, run by engineers, skill would be corelated
to salary, but it is not. nor is inteligence or knowledge.
someone with great grades form uc berkeley can get a high paying
job if they know how to wear a suit and fit in with whatever
kind of nincopoop they happen to want to work for.
\_ Hey, calm down there fella! Maybe you should take a minute,
sit back, listen to your whalesong tapes, do your aroma
therapy thing, then come back and fix your goddamn
grammar and your suck-ass typos.
\_ [local motd flavor purged]
[if it actually added humor, it would still be here] |
| 2000/4/22-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18083 Activity:high |
4/22 An old motd is better than no motd. Restored. Keep deleting it.
I don't care. I'll just keep restoring it until you get bored.
I've infinite patience.
\_ Let's see about that.
\_ Shrug. Whatever. It's part of my login sequence. That
allows me to be pretty damned patient.
\_ isn't that, umm, squishable?
\_ The current policy can be interpreted such that
ANY repeated fux0ring with the motd is squishable,
whether it's automated or not (even though kchang
was squished for the former).
\_ Remember the Kchang!
\_ Whatever. If The Powers That Be want to squish me
for checking motd length and copying back over it
automatically if the length is zero, then whatever.
Given how long blatantly obnoxious behavior is
tolerated and how many warnings are given before
anyone even starts to talk about squishing, I'm not
deeply concerned about it. Thanks for caring,
though.
\_ Regularly restoring a nuked motd isn't fux0ring.
Nuking the motd regularly is. -dans
http://www.easter.com
\_ http://www.passover.com |
| 2000/4/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18081 Activity:nil |
4/22 An old motd is better than no motd. Restored. |
| 2000/4/20 [Uncategorized/Profanity, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18063 Activity:high |
4/19 Fucking Tom deletes half the motd and adds nothing of value to it
and does *not* sign his name to his "Fuck Paul" entry. -fucks tom
\_ "Fuck Paul" is not a Tom comment.
\_ I don't know what the comment was about, but that sounds
like a good position to take. Fuck Paul. -aspo
\_ i trimmed the motd Wednesday afternoon to ~140 lines, not tom.
you may stop frothing at the mouth now. -jwang
\_ and another thing, deleting half the MOTD, most of the
time, is adding great value to it. -tom
\_ and yet another thing, anonymous coward, I find
it interesting that you're monitoring my
processes. -tom
\_ why do you claim this person is monitoring your
processes?
\_ he seemed to know that I had edited the MOTD at
a particular time (part of this discussion has
been deleted). Of course, he was wrong so he may
just have been lying. It's hard to tell with
anonymous cowards. -tom
\_ Tom deletes motd stuff that threatens him. |
| 2000/4/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:18020 Activity:nil |
4/15 Stop posting anything on the motd. The motd is reserved only for
ilyas, ali, and tom.
\_ why, because we're the only ones with the guts to
sign our names? -tom
\_ tell us about the stars ilyas! |
| 2000/3/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17817 Activity:very high |
3/21 Politburo Meeting Tonight, 5:00 PM in 343/337 Soda (The rooms are
across the hall from each other). Yeah it's in the motd.official,
but just in case you missed it. -dans
\_ No, I don't see it in motd.official.
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root motd 894 Mar 14 00:53 /etc/motd.official
\_ --==< Politburo Meetings: Tuesdays, 5:00pm, 337 Soda. >==--
Perhaps you should have your vision checked.
\_ politburo = nasty geek politics
\_ politburo == nasty geek politics
\_ Foo! |
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| 2000/3/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17772 Activity:high 69%like:17783 |
3/15 Anybody else besides mehlhaff have a motd archive? I'm trying to
find answers to a question I posted yesterday. mehlhaff's motd
mechanism seems kinda flaky.
\_ Many versions of the motd have been sent to /dev/null
\_ hey, if you dont like it, archive it in your own better
way. -mehlhaff
\_ I think mehlhaff should turn off read access so little whiners
like you get what they paid for.
Always: Participate, don't spectate.
(25% of my disk quota to whoever knows where that's from.)
\_ It's from "Gregory's Two Girls". You got it backwards. Send disk
space to bray@csua.
\_ Mate, don't masturbate. (From me.)
\_ Does that include gay mating?
\_ Up to you.
\_ Yay!
\_ Homosexuals can only attempt to make. The attempt is
\_ Homosexuals can only attempt to mate. The attempt is
biologically doomed to fail in humans.
Now: Be a creator, not a destroyer.
\_ I create crap. And lots of it. -netuser |
| 2000/3/10-12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17734 Activity:high |
3/10 Is there still a difference between US and int'l encryption on
browsers?
Yes. I'm assuming you know what the difference is, but if you don't,
I'd be glad to explain it. -dans
\_ Maybe not. I thought only US version is 128 bit strong
encryption but now it seems that int'l version is also like
that. Does that have to do with the recent legislation?
\_ Ah, I forgot. Recent legislation allows companies to
export strong encryption on a case by case basis. I'm
unfortunately not aware of the gory legal details. What
you suggest sounds quite possible though. -dans
\_ Once again we see dans mouthing off about something he knows nothing
about....
\_ You nuked my response to this as well as someone's followup
comment stating that it wasn't legislation, but executive
action, and that it hadn't gone into effect yet. You also
nuked my response to your asanine comment pointing out that
1) My original reponse, that the difference still exists is
correct and 2) I very clearly stated that I am uncertain of
the gory legal details. Either add something useful or piss
off, but don't nuke useful responses. -dans
\_ You nuked someone's followup comment stating that it wasn't
legislation, but executive action, and that it hadn't gone
into effect yet. You also nuked my response to your asanine
\_ English 1A
comment pointing out that 1) My original reponse, that the
difference still exists is correct and 2) I very clearly stated
that I am uncertain of the gory legal details. Either add
something useful or piss off, but don't nuke useful responses.
-dans
P.S. Sign yer posts you twink.
\_ I nuked nothing. Go fuck yourself. The motd got nuked
flat many times today and I restored the copy I had which
was better than the zero bytes here. Did I tell you to
\_ Go fuck yourself. When your done, go stick your head
in a pig. While you're at it, sign yer posts. -dans
go fuck yourself, yet? Oh yes, I did. -happily not dans
\_ Go fuck yourself. Repeat. Then go stick your head in
a pig.
_/o \/ \@ _________
\___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I
Lung Ass
Anatomically correct ears Lung Ass
| (after one level of indirection)
| |Apple II
_/o \/ \@ __v______v
O_ )=( ____I_ <______
O2 --> mouth --> >___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I
_n_ ______ | ||
v | |Apple II
_/| ______ | ||
O2 --> mouth --> O>___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I
_/x \/ \@ __v______vv
O_ )=( ____I_ <O_____
O2 --> mouth --> O>___/\______/ \ \ \_____ I<--- also cooked
^ \ II II II II /
| \___________________________/
Apple I ^
|
plate
Then sign yer posts you twink. -dans
\_ Once again dans reaches new heights of maturity
and leadership on the motd.
\_ Yes, and the motd has always been such a bastion
of maturity in this sober and reserved
organization. -dans
\_ The pig lacks a mouth. How does it eat?
\_ Now that you've added a mouth so the pig can
eat, where does the food go after it digests?
\_ The *real* question is: how does the user
that movie did. And now that it has a
mouth, what would it say with such an
uncomfortable object up it's ASS??
\_ Thanks for answering my queries regarding
the lack of mouth and where the food goes
when it digests. I notice that
the pig is now dead and cooked. So does
that mean the guy with the head in the
pig can eat his way out now?
breathe?
\_ I also have another question, i forgot to
ask before: why does the pig have an "n"
for ears? I thought pigs had more pointy
and large ears -- at least the one in
that movie did. I did not realize pigs
could talk until I saw that movie. Since
this pig now has a mouth, what would it
say with such an uncomfortable object up
it's ASS??
\_ Also, thanks for answering my queries
regarding the lack of mouth and where
the food goes when it digests. I notice
that the pig is now dead and cooked. So
does that mean the guy with the head in
the pig can eat his way out now?
\_ More importantly, where do you stick the apple
when you cook it?
\_ dans, you are truly the van gogh of our generation.
\_ Can I have his spare ear?
\_ Wow, dans, you sure showed me with that ancient ascii 'art'
rip off. Your lame rip off doesn't make you any less stupid
or ignorant. If you spent more time on issues like the
problem with the treasurer or the mail spools rather than
posting crap to the motd and proving your manhood by signing
your garbage then maybe someone would have some respect for
you instead of pissing down your throat on the motd
everyday. You reap what you sow. By signing you show not
that you're a real studboy but that you take the motd too
seriously and are just a twit and an incompetent imbecile
incapable of performing the most basic duties of the office
you voluntarily ran for. Do your job. No one gives a shit
if you sign your filth.
\_ Fuck you, you twink. Problem with treasurer: he doesn't
read his soda mail, and I solve this how? Force him to
read his e-mail with the evil e-mail water cure torture?
I don't think so. Impeach him? Who's going to replace
him? You? Are you even eligible for the politburo?
Even if you are, you won't even claim responsibility for
your posts on the motd, so why the hell should anyone
expect you to be any better as treasurer? In light of
the situation, mikeh and I did the best thing possible:
we routed around it. Note our repeated admonitions to
send inquiries regarding donations to one of us, not
twohey.
Problem with the mail spools:
Short term answer:
a) I don't have root. b) machines have been the VP's
domain for a long time. mikeh and the other root staff
do a damn good job of managing things. I'm not going to
step on their toes by madly gzipping offender's
mailspools and dropping them in their home directories.
If that's the right thing to do in this situation, then
the root staff will do it. It's their decision. a) if
there is a different solution (i.e. reducing mail
quotas), they'll pursue it, but, regardless, it remains
their decision.
Long term answer:
Get more disk. Duh. I'll repeat what I've said before:
There's talk of a soda upgrade. Because we don't know
the exact kind of disk (SCSI, duh, but what kind of
SCSI?) we'll be using, we're not going to rush out and
buy a disk to solve today's mail spool problem if we
can't use it in new soda a month from now. Until either
soda gets upgraded or we decide it's not going to
happen, buying a disk is out of the question. If
someone has a spare disk they can donate, that might
help, but most of the offers we've seen have been
to buy or supply funds for the purchase of a disk.
As important to the CSUA as soda is, soda != CSUA, and
my job is not to baby sit it. If you want to criticize
the job I've done as prez, try actually reading the
job description first (it's in the CSUA constitution).
I don't sign my posts because I believe in owning my
words. I do it independent of the medium. I suppose
you must have difficulty owning your words, seeing as
they're all shit. -dans
P.S. No rip-off, it's straight out of the CSUA
Encyclopedia. Frankly I think the subsequent
discussion is damned funny.
\_ Have some balls. Impeach him, give someone else the
opportunity to do it. An empty office is better
than a do-nothing office. As far as the CSUA
Constitution goes, I wrote parts of it. I think I
know what it says. Don't use a piece of paper to
hide your ineffective cowardess. Stand up and do
the right thing. "It's not my job!" is the lamest
weakest cop-out ever given. Make it your job! Those
who came before and will be coming after will
appreciate it. Don't be another worthless resume
stuffing figurehead. |
| 2000/2/26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17637 Activity:nil |
2/25 Why does motdwatch not work anymore? |
| 2000/2/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:17597 Activity:nil |
10/3 I promise to keep my virginity as long as I am a soda geek.
--- promise keeper
\_ as if you could help it...
\_ That isn't much of a promise. More of a guarantee.
\_ The rest of soda promises to help you achieve this goal.
\_ I lost mine last night.
\_ I lost mine to psb and nweaver at BAGG last week
-- promise breaker
\_ Lose your virginity by hitting on one of the CSUA sluts
\_ That only works for women since all the CSUA sluts are
lesbians
\_ Name one who claims lesbianism but hasn't had a long
string of male sex partners or isn't currently screwing
some random dude.
\_ I can personnaly assure you that this is FAR from true.
-Soda Mack Daddy
\_ So a guy who sleeps around is a mack, but a
girl who sleeps around is a slut? One standard
is plenty.
\_ How about we drop the use of the term "slut"
and use "sexually empowered woman" instead
\_ "Slut" is more accurate. -The Mack
**_ Name some witness please.
\_ Uh huh. More like wannabe college-cool lesbians.
A soda chick claiming lesbianism is merely the typical
its-so-cool college attitude compounded by the need
for a defense against the typical sex starved soda
geek she comes into contact with through the csua.
\_ This analysis is so right on that I must comment
on it explicitly. It shows a depth and keeness
of intellect rarely exhibited on the soda motd.
Well done -- motdd
\_ So you haven't been able to get any either?
\_ No, I was just making a comment about that
statment above; but your response is funny :)
also, I think most of the soda women (girls?)
are skanky, or damaged goods, or a combo of
both -- motdd (yes, there are exceptions, I
know- and I include the men (boys) in this
as well)
\_ damaged goods, huh? So are you a virgin?
\_ Damaged doesn't mean "non-virgin". It
means "psychotic and emotional mess".
\_ What about those chicks who crave attention they
can't get anywhere else?
\_ At Berkeley the competition is so minimal that
all a chick has to do to get attention is breathe.
Yes, this _does_ say something about men at Cal
as well.
\just shows that some people need to get a clue when it comes to women
\_ And you made this observation on paid company time?
(I'm not getting paid while typing this.)
\_ then you are a loser and a slave. The only excuse
for posting to the soda motd is doing it on company time;
doing it on your own time is a waste of what little life
you have. -- posting this on company time, right after my
2 hour lunch.
\_ I didn't take a 2 hour lunch today but I showed
4 hours late and I'm going home 2 hours early. I'm
also getting paid to post this. How's that?
\_ that's pretty good, if you can keep it up :)
\_ It's killing me. I need more hobbies since like
a US farmer, I get paid not to work.
\_ And your problem with this is ?
\_ The women on soda are smart enough not to get involved
in this thread
\_ hear hear - the voice of reason. best to let the boys
be oh so brave and daring by posting their rantings to the
soda motd - it's not like any of them would ever have the
guts to even make a peep about any issue IRL anyway - just
\_ I feel stupid
for asking,
but I really
want to know
what is "IRL"?
keep playing and posting in your insulated little world
and never actually do anything. suits us just fine.
\_ and this surprises you?
\_ Rantings? What rantings? A few facts:
0) PRINT "HELLO, WORLD!"
1) No real women in soda hall
2) No real lesbians in soda hall
3) No real men in soda hall
4) No real or simulated sex in soda hall
5) I get paid to post to the motd which hell sure
beats doing real work
6) IRL = In Real Life.
7) That you would think anyone takes this seriously
and post a real reply says more about you than
about those posting so-called rants.
8) Did I mention I'm getting paid to do this? :-)
9) GOTO 0
\_ This is getting more and more hilarious! |
| 2000/2/19-20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17572 Activity:nil |
2/18 Any idiot can zero the motd. If you don't like the current motd,
clean it up and add something worth reading but don't be a d0rk and
simply wipe it. |
| 2000/2/18 [Computer/SW/Languages/Misc, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17564 Activity:high |
2/18 (Oh and by the way if you delete this again I'm going to write a
script that adds it right back so stop fucking deleting it already)
\_ by the way, that is not against policy, in case any kchang
supporters want to whine. automatically adding to the motd is
okay. automatically munging it is not. --!aspo
\_ and where is this "policy" written?
\_ /csua/adm/doc/policies/motd
\_ Best quote: "The MOTD may not be used for non-University
business." Mwahahaha! |
| 2000/2/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17534 Activity:nil |
2/16 This is a test. Am wondering when /etc/motd gets updated ...
\_ When you run 'mtd'
\_ Wrong. You need to run /csua/bin/motd to update motd. |
| 2000/2/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17486 Activity:moderate |
2/11 It's been some time since you've graced the motd with your genius,
ilyas. Could you condescend to post some musings on a subject
weighty to the motd? Please, ilyas, enrich us! --ilyas' #2 fan
\_ ilyas numba two fan, numba one heeeepocrite!
\_ I too was wondering what had become of Our Lord Of High Logic And
All Things Correct True And Right. --ilyas #1 Fan |
| 2000/2/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17472 Activity:very high |
2/9 Why does it seem like there are a disproportionate number of sys adms
in csua?
\_ Informal poll of cs related jobs:
CSUA Code Monkey: 2
CSUA Programmer: 1
CSUA Sys Admin: 1
CSUA Code Monkey: 3
CSUA monkey who does not code: 1
CSUA Sys Admin: 2
\_ The sysadmins have more free time to goof off on wall/motd. Coders
are always under pressure to make the next deadline, fix the next
bug.
\_ Uh, aren't we generalizing just a tad? -- CSUA Coder
\_ No.
\_ Idiot.
\_ sysadmin.
\_ That hurts!
\_ Shut up all of you. Babbling fools. |
| 2000/1/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Recreation/Stripclub] UID:17324 Activity:moderate |
1/24 Why does it say "Co-Ed Naked Computing" on the top of MOTD?
\_ Ask ali.
\_ actually, I put that there. -not ali
\_ If you don't know what ali has to do with it, you
know nothing about Co-Ed Naked Computing in the CSUA.
\_ Duh, obviously. "If you have to ask, you don't know!"
Oooh, aaaah... how mysterious!!! |
| 2000/1/25-26 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17323 Activity:high |
1/24 HI TREVOR! WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE! -his loyal MOTD fans
\_ This Trevor guy is something that should go on /. along with all
of Paolo's tjb posting archives. Then again, I wouldn't want to
have this IP slashdotted.
\_ Speaking of slashdot. Do you really think soda can be slashdoted?
I wonder if we all just loged out of soda and loged into
http://slashdot.org, would it just burn and die?
\_ Yeah. Think of it: "CS guy acts like total asshole!" That'd
sure be a big news flash.
\_ someone should storm his discussion section with a camera and post
his face so that all we CSUAers know what he looks like.
\_ Would be much more fun if everyone showed up
\_ This is your idea of fun? What next? Kook baiting on
Sproul?
\_ Hey, what's your problem? A week's not complete if
you haven't gotten yelled at by Pastor Glen
\_ I was thinking more of the students walking by. |
| 2000/1/21 [Computer/Theory, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17283 Activity:insanely high |
1/20 MOTD Poll:
Trevor Buckingham has been made a TA in Math 55 this semester.
IF you have been following the prior developments, then do you
think that:
a. Math Dept should be notified of his prior history by any
individual willing to do so.
b. Math Dept should be notified of his prior history by the
CSUA as the representative body of potentially affected
students
c. Math Dept should not be notified of his prior history.
This is a serious issue; please withhold ballot stuffing, etc.
Results will be considered final at noon on Saturday.
a: 4.5 + i
b: 2
c: 2.5 - i
\_ with a minimum of swearing and ranting, who is this guy?
-alum
\_ The CSUA ought not to get involved, and moreover, if TB
can teach he should -- being subservient to the teaching
establishment is hardly a prerequisite for being a good
teacher. It's well known there is a shortage of even
minimally competent TAs. And if he does anything too
grossly out of line, he can be fired; for those who are
unsympathetic, you might say that he now has a contractual
obligation to put his money where his mouth is. -brg
\_ regarding the half votes: anyone "should" be able to do
whatever the heck they want, whether it's reporting TB or not,
but a notice from the CSUA smacks of ASUC Senate opinions,
and you really don't want anything to do with that do you?
\_ The CSUA has no business getting involved and can only get
in trouble doing so. Just print out paolo's web page
& last semesters posts and slip them under the prof's
door.
\_ How about letting him demonstrate whether or not
he can teach?
\_ This strikes me as a cowardly way to do things. --pld
\_ Wow. I just read that file. Someday, I hope to have the
opportunity to reject him as a job applicant. I wonder if he
realizes how many people on soda are in such positions in
industry?
\_ Go to work in academia (okay, I'm channeling
kchang here) and deny soda motd hosers like this
guy the chance to reject you as a job applicant.
\_ He got an A+ in Kahan's class. That counts for a lot.
\_ He just seems to be immature. I don't think that necessarily
makes him a bad TA. - mikeym
\_ This is a good opportunity for some smartass kid to give him a
taste of his own medicine.
\_ That would be great, except that given his stunning ability
to consider other people's points of view, I don't think
he'll recognize his own medicine. |
| 1999/12/29-2000/1/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17121 Activity:high |
12/29 ALUMNI MUST BE REBOOTED!
\_ MY BUTT DOES NOT DESERVE A WEBSITE
\_ MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS NOT http://BUTT.COM
\_ I WILL NOT XEROX MY BUTT
\_ I WILL NOT SELL MY KIDNEY ON eBAY
\_ I WILL NOT CUT CORNERS
" " " " "
" " " " "
" " " " "
\_ NO ONE CARES WHAT MY DEFINITION OF "IS" IS
\_ I WON'T NOT USE NO DOUBLE NEGATIVES
\_ THE TRUTH IS NOT OUT THERE
\_ I AM NOT THE NEW DALAI LAMA
\_ THE BOYS ROOM IS NOT A WATER PARK
\_ MY HOMEWORK WAS NOT STOLEN BY A ONE-ARMED MAN
\_ I WILL NOT USE THE MOTD TO ARCHIVE BART'S CHALKBOARD WRITINGS
\_ ALUMNI MUST BE SHOT. And I'm not talking about the machine.
\_ You plan on never graduating?
\_ I plan on not being a total jack ass when I graduate.
\_ Yeah, it sure looks like being an alum automatically
makes everyone a jack ass. Uh huh... whatever.
\_ huh. You're already a jackass as an undergrad. You'd
better start working on that or you'll have to shoot
yourself.
\_ so does yermom
\_ Keep this shit somewhere else. This is the CSUA and we have no
relation to alumni.eecs.
\_ Send mail to jon. He'll love you forever and ever.
\_ try posting again when you've made it past your twelfth birthday.
maybe by then your pathetic naivete won't show so much. Oh, and
perhaps a quick lession in using the dictionary might be in order
so you can look up Alumni, fuckwit.
\_ Send mail about alumni to jon and he's liable to drop the
machine on your doorstep with a note telling you what you
can do with the damn thing. Just give up already and
forget about the machine - it has nothing that soda can't
give you much faster and more reliably. |
| 1999/12/27-30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17104 Activity:nil |
12.28 Let me ask this before someone restores the motd:
where's a good, but inexpensive place to buy a sportcoat
around here? (No i dont' feel like going to nordstroms =P)
\_ Motd restored. It didn't take rocket science to merge the two.
\_ Men's Wearhouse in Emeryville by Tower Records and Trader Joe's.
\_ Men's Wearhouse on 19th st. in Oakland is lots easier to get
to if you're not driving. (Near BART and many buses.)
\_ Burlington Coat Factory usually has pretty awesome deals. -John |
| 1999/12/23-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17094 Activity:high |
12/22 I know the motd is not normally a place to say anything remotely
serious, but this seems pretty important to me. There is a petition
-aspo
\_ I'm glad it was so important to you that you found it worth wiping
the rest of the motd. I find your little petition so utterly
stupid and unimportant that I found it worth wiping the rest of
your pathetic plea. Welcome to the motd, asshole, now go home.
\_ He didn't erase the rest of the motd fuckhead. Someone else
nuked it and he just restored his message. Get a grip.
\_ I've been here probably longer than you have. Now fuck off,
get half a clue, and go away. -aspo
\_ uh, what happened?
\_ Aspo has been Soda's resident expert on sodomy for
years - ever since tom scared benco away.
\_ Wasn't it necro-sodomy? And since when is being
on soda a long time a good thing? I've been
around a few years longer than aspo but I don't
spout off about it as something to be proud of.
It isn't. I'm simply older.
\_ yah but someone said welcome to the motd,
now go away. I've been here long enough
thank you. Get used to it. -aspo
\_Chill.
\_ Yeah, no shit. Take it easy, it's the holidays.
\_ Is that a threat? Get used to it? I
don't see anything to get used to. You're
just another motd twit with a big mouth,
a closed mind, and a bad attitude. I was
used to that long before you came along.
Really, you're nothing new. Get used to
it. <insert yawn here>
\_ and for all those who don't have the brains of a pissant, go
check out <DEAD>www.samesexmarraige.org<DEAD> and then fill out
/tmp/csua/petiton.pdf and mail it in. Get this on the ballot.
-aspo
\_ Uh oh, "brains of a pissant" for anyone who dares to hold
a different view from the ultra loony liberal left. Yeah,
way to go! That sort of talk will really bring em around
to your way of thinking! How about instead of smearing your
predetermined politically correct noise all over, you
wiped the motd to put up my plee.
\_ "plea" Been to college yet? Or HS?
attempt to explain why same sex marriages should exist? I
doubt you can do it without resorting to various forms of
personal attack as this is just your personal feelings and
beliefs based not on a true sense of justice or the law or
fairness or anything else that others might find
convincing unless they already held your beliefs. Anyway,
just because it's on the ballot doesn't mean it will become
law. I think you'll find the 80/20 vote against this a bit
eye opening if it makes the ballot. -registered voter
\_ no the brains of a pissant is for thinking I
wiped the motd to put up my plea.
\_ Nice to see you're with it enough to learn to
spell a simple word like "plea" with some help.
\_ Your intense hatred makes you overestimate the
amount of hatred in the general population.
Recent surveys show a majority of Californians
support domestic partner benefits for gays and
only ~50% support the Knight Initiative - far
lower than your 80%.
\_ I don't hate anything. Go hang your little lefty
labels elsewhere. I have tremendous disdain and
disregard for those who go into hysterics about
their 'rights' without any thought for anything
or anyone else. What surveys are these? And
were they of "likely voters" or random people on
the street who only have a 1 in 5 chance of being
a voter? It's usually the latter. Go ahead, put
it on the ballot. No fear. -always votes
\_ hey! some of my friends are black!
\_ That's nice. That has nothing to do with
the price of apples in Japan. |
| 1999/12/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17044 Activity:kinda low |
12/8 Are there any more CSUA "got mips?" T-shirts, like Dan was showing
off at the general meeting? --Galen
\_ Yes, last time I looked. I think there about 20+ left. --PeterM
\_ They would have sold much better if the words "Undergrad assoc."
were left OUT of the back. I.e.: front says: Got Mips? and the
back SHOULD've said: Berkeley Computer Science. It's all about
marketing the product.
back SHOULD've said: Berkeley Computer Science. Someone needs to
take a marketing class. =P
\_ Thank you Mr. Anonymous Marketing coward. We'll be sure to consult
the motd for your advice before producing any future t-shirts. If
we wanted CS department t-shirts, we'd make CS department t-shirts.
Seeing as these are CSUA shirts, it makes sense that they say CSUA.
-dans
\_ who should we be contacting if we want to buy a shirt? -oj
\_ contact dans@csua, alternatively, you can come by
the office (343 soda) and buy one. - paolo |
| 1999/12/6-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:17015 Activity:high 66%like:17010 |
12/5 When are soda accounts turned off?
\_ The day after finals.
\_ Why the _FUCK_ are you asking this on the Soda motd? Cripes,
get a cl00. --sowings
\_ Have you tried reading the login messages on your class account
or <DEAD>www-inst.eecs<DEAD> ?
\_ never if you mean "csua.soda" ones, but i think you mean "class"
accts. see above.
\_ Correction: your soda account can be shut down for
various reasons, all of which are in the various
policy docs under /csua/share and /csua/adm -- but
soda accounts do not have any built-in time limits.
-brg
\_ You mean my account isn't automatically shutoff when I
get enough Twink Points from the Twink God????
\_ No, but Your English sure soundsdumb. Maybe you
should English Classes and learn how to writeit???
\_ You're hypocrticalness iz shownig everyne that
Your just stupid and my english wuz better then
You'rez so you just shutup. In fact, my English
was perfect. Please check with your 3rd grade
teacher before posting on the motd about someone
else's spelling, grammar, or syntax. Thanks.
Play again, Yes/no? Insert coin to continue.... |
| 1999/11/30-12/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16971 Activity:high |
11/31 Right. So basically I went to the ASUC meeting. I'm suppoesd to
inform any active csua members that if they are suspicsious of
any cult activity of this student group, then there is a Cult
Awerness Officer which the CAL/SAS has that will investigate any
Cult Activity. There. I've told you. - paolo
\_ Dude, my cousin's wedding was in a Clam building.
\_ does anyone else see the irony of Sodans talking about cults?
\_ No. Please explain.
\_ I am a Sodan of the Third Wheel. Are you in need of a Squishing?
\_ What is the definition of a cult? Aren't pretty much all
religions cults? For example, what would you call a group
of people who get together and pretend to drink their ex-leaders
blood and eat his body? The same group also think that their
current leader talks directly to their God. Would you call
this group a Cult or would you call them Catholics? Are the
ASUC going to investigate all the religious groups on campus?
\_ I would call them orthodox catholic and therefore not a cult.
\_ If it's big then it must be true. If it's small it must be a
Satan spawned cult until it grows big at which point it must be
true.
\_ There's one on the corner of Dana and Haste. They call themselves
a religious co-op. Co-op my ass. I got invited to dinner by
them. They were preaching to me to join their fucked up little
world. Damn fools need a beating. They keep following me around
on campus.
\_ Why would you go to a free dinner at a bible meeting? What the
fuck did you think was going to happen? Free sex and drugs? I
have zero sympathy for your dumb ass.
\_ who said i accepted the dinner you dumbshit?
\_ maybe you should with that curse'd tongue of yours-Ma Teresa
\_ i used to have a couple freinds there. if you ignore their
crazy religious crap, it is actually a very functional co-op.
after living in the USCA, i would have to say that except
for the religion, the usca could learn alot from them about
how to run good student housing at reasonable prices and
have everyone actually do their share. this pattern can
be seen throughout history: the only people who can make
crazy experiments in communal living actually work are religious
nuts. eg amana, oneida, the shakers etc.
\_ also no hazing. I don't know if a requirement of a knowledge
of unix can be classified as hazing (I mean they had some pretty
broad definitions in the packet (yes there's a 15 pg packet)
all of which are completely subjective (with words like
"personal" "degredation" "humiliation"). I suppose then it's
good that most people turn off the motd and don't wall because
i think that may be classified as hazing. So people, don't haze!
\_ I want to be the first to go on record that I tihnk the csua has
definate cult activity. Hell, I'll even go so far as to call it
Cult Activity. IS the Cult Awareness Officer required to justify
his or her capital letters and investigate now? -aspo
\_ Arrgghh. Look, I'm _required_ to report to the CAO if
any current member suspects cult activity. I don't want to
do that.
\_ all those capitals! Think of it! What exactly happens if
they investigate? -aspo
\_ They execute obnoxious assholes like you I think. It was
somewhere in the back of the 15 pages.
\_ even better -aspo
\_ alas no, remember this is berkeley, home of the PC
and the "convenience free" zone. So if anything, they'll just make
life hard for the csua, alums and undergrads alike, something i don't
think anyone here wants. - paolo
\_ Nov 31? Nov 30? Are we getting ahead of ourselves? (its Nov 29)
\_ When they say, "The plane is on fire, the engine is dead, we're
all going to die!" Do you say, "What color is my luggage?"
- alum
\_ Yes. I like to know that I'm going out in style.
\_ Not to mention there is no Nov 31.
\_ CalLUG is definitely a cult. I insist you report them immediately
Paolo. Maybe that will keep your moronic ass out of our hair.
World-Wide Web Access Statistics for the Unification Home Page at <DEAD>www.cais.com<DEAD>
[deleted for being totally pointless and context free] |
| 1999/11/29-12/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16964 Activity:moderate |
11/28 Where can I find archives of the motd?
\_ use linux. ride bike. problem solved.
\_ U53 W1ND0Z3 MAN. W1N98 15 50 KRAD. 1T CAN RUN 3V3RYTH1N6
THAT L1NUX CANT MAN. SO USE W1ND0Z3 CUZ 1T5 C00L
\_ ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v
\_ of course you need to know how to use RCS to read it. check
out 'man co', and 'man rlog'. -mehlhaff
\_ Nah. I usually read it with less. But then I also usually
read the Solaris source by using less to view the SCCS
history files too. -alan- |
| 1999/11/25-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Reference/Religion] UID:16953 Activity:high |
11/25 Today I give thanks that I am not a h0zer.
\_ It's TG and you're writing on the motd. Thus, you are a h0zer.
And a lamer as well.
\_ "Lest he without sin cast the first stone...."
\_ "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...."
\_ Duh, gee whiz you're clever. I never claimed not to be a
h0zer or lamer. I also didn't go on the motd to proclaim
it. Also, you're misquoting the Bible. If you're going to
bother quoting garbage at least quote it properly.
\_ Who said it was a quote from the Bible, lamer?
\_ Of course it's a Bible quote. Don't even try to
pretend you didn't fuck up the Bible quote. Don't
try to go there. This isn't 3rd grade anymore.
\_ Today I give thanks that my account has not been sorried.
all pre-tg crap removed.
\_ Tom? |
| 1999/11/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16931 Activity:moderate |
11/20 Proposed letter: "Dear Mr. Buckingham - we in the CSUA have
noticed your extremely adept use of the english language and
the usenet forum. We would like to invite you to join
the CSUA, so that you can impart your wisdom directly to us
on our highly esteemed public forum, the motd. Please stop
by XXX Soda, and take advantage of this honor."
\_ Yes! I simply must have more Wisdom From Da H00d!
\_ Oh no. Another kchang??
\_ you guys are giving this guy way too much mind share |
| 1999/11/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16901 Activity:nil |
11/16 Where is Tom Holub? motd is getting big. If he was still around,
he would be actively mowing the motd already. |
| 1999/10/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16746 Activity:very high |
10/21 Hypothetical question:
If you replaced /etc/motd.public with a core file can you
get sorried?
__/~*##$%@@@******~\-__
/f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\
4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\
/fF./ . /- /' /|/| \_ * *\ *\R\
(iC.I+ '| - *-/00 |- \ ) ) )|RB
(I| ( [ / -|/^^\ | ) /_/ | *)B
(I(. \ `` \ \m_m_|~__/ )_ .-~ F/
\b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/
~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/
~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~
| I I \\
/ // i\ \\
( [ (( I@) ))) )
\_\_VYVU_/
|| * |
| * *\
/* /I\ *~~\
/~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\
____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___
\_ Nuclear launch detected.
\_ Is there a way to replace segmentation fault message with
this ascii pic?
\_ yes.
\_ Ask yourself: is a core file a useful and informative message of
the day? Does it add value to anyone's soda experience? Or is it
just a desperate act of a squishable little prick? This isn't a
hypothetical question. It's a rhetorical question.
\_ By that definition, everyone should've been squished by now.
Of course, some things are more squishable than others.
\_ There's a huge difference between someone adding content
you think has zero quality and someone linking a binary
which has zero quality for everyone including the poster.
Only someone far too stupid to edit the motd would believe
a binary has content value to anyone. It's rhetorical.
__/~*##$%@@@******~\-__
/f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\
4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\
/fF./ . /- /' /|/| \_ * *\ *\R\
~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~
| I I \\
(iC.I+ '| - *-/00 |- \ ) ) )|RB
(I| ( [ / -|/^^\ | ) /_/ | *)B
(I(. \ `` \ \m_m_|~__/ )_ .-~ F/
\b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/
| * *\
/* /I\ *~~\
~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/
____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___
~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~ You know, wee totoro
| I I \\ do not appreciate this.
/ // i\ \\
( [ (( I@) ))) ) /
\_\_VYVU_/
|| * | |\|\
/* /I\ *~~\ | OO\
/~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\ | /^^\|
____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___ |_m_m/
\_ Nuclear launch detected.
\_ Is there a way to replace segmentation fault message with
this ascii pic?
\_ yes.
\_ signal(SIGSEGV, printnuke()); |
| 1999/10/9-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16680 Activity:moderate |
10/8 mangled motd entries deleted. you're not funny you twit. stop
rearranging things. hasn't someone narrowed the search down
yet? post their logins. it's lynching time.
\_ Yeah, we just finished tracking down the hoser in question.
We'll squish him as soon as we get around to it. --root
\_ Ok, we tracked him down: it was dickylee. Squished. --root
\_ squish squish squish!
\_ FREE DICK!
\_ Unconfirmed reports that it wasn't dickylee -- he was
just having terminal emulation problems. The real
motd-mangler is still out there.... |
| 1999/10/7-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Consumer/TV] UID:16675 Activity:moderate |
10/7 Is there a projector that can display standard video signal as well as
35mm slides?
\_ Probably.
\_ can you give more information or url? How is a projector
that projects video signal to a (cloth/paper) screen called?
Projection TV??
\_ No. How? You mean "what", don't you? "Projection TV??" is
not a valid sentence. It lacks any form of structure or
verb phrase. My reply is: Green Envelopes
\_ "Green Envelopes" is not a valid sentence. Or if it
includes "My reply is:", then you forgot a period at
the end.
\_ he doesn't have more information or a url. you ask a
question that's way too open-ended, and you'll get a flip
response. that's just how it works on the motd.
\_ Why do you want such a thing? Just get a normal video projector
and a normal slide projector . . . when you want to show video,
have the slide projector show a black slide, and vice-versa. Sure,
you don't get the cool all-in-oneness of an integrated solution,
but you probably save big money *and* get better quality.
\_ All is encrypted using 3DES
the front of it and have it go to a white screen when you hit the
homemade slide button on your new fancy remote control that has
the video remote taped to the slide carosel remote taped to your
toggle button (described already). Have fun!
Or you could just buy one of each and point them at the same screen.
Or you could use a computer with a video out and do it all using
\_ if you use a normal video projector you can rig a slide holder to
Can't we squish him....maybe an AI program that determines the
score of a motd entry and squishes the writter as they save the
motd.public from their editor which has the uid of who is running
it in the env. On a scale of 0 to 9 any score below a 7 will get
squished - 7s will be warned of undesired actions, and 8s and 9s
will go free.
any one of a number of programs. Hmm, why do twits get accounts.
\_ Did writing that give you a big ego boost?
\_ No, but it makes you a twit. =D
\_ Don't forget to mention that it isn't a real sentence.
It doesn't have a period at the end.
\_ lol, are you a girl<period less>
\_ Uhm, okay.
\_ and people who write dumb shit like this would be taken out
and beaten to death as the crowds cheer?
\_ You are such a twit
\_ ah, the perils of walling ... where the nefarious can take
your comments and make it sound more stupid on a motd |
| 1999/10/1-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16645 Activity:moderate |
9/30 Accidentally typed pin instead of pine. What exactly does it do?
no man pages available.
\_ It's a stupid csua annoyance for anyone who typos any of several
common commands that start with 'pin' such as ping and pine. It
might also possibly mark you as a pinhead to the low grade morons
who write such crap and stick it in default path location. Maybe
they find it funny. Maybe they find yermom jokes funny, too. Maybe
they think it gives the csua character or something. I dunno.
\_ Check out http://www.dinkumware.com
\_ Dikumware releases only the STL, no hash_table.
I know they provide an STL implementation, so they may provide
/csua/bin/pin
believe they're free source though. -dans
\_ Dikumware releases only the STL, no hash_table.
soda ~ > which pin
\_ Thats Viviana, dumbass. Go see Admiral Krag.
soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/pin
\_ no, it's Vyvvian you bastard, Go see Neil Edmondson
in "The Young Ones"
-rwxr-xr-x 1 danh contrib 102 Sep 16 20:09 /csua/bin/wal*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 danh contrib 3 Sep 14 16:29 /csua/bin/pin@ -> wal
\_ "Why do I always have to cook the lentils?"
\_ It marks you forever as a pinhead.
now Script munged motd blasted. Thank you for playing.
soda ~ > file /csua/bin/wal
/csua/bin/wal: ASCII text
soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/wal
\_ Should add: Turkey earthquake: 7.6, killed 15,000 people.
/csua/bin/wall y 2>&1 > /dev/null
/csua/bin/wal: ASCII text
\_
soda ~ > cat /csua/bin/wal
soda ~ > which pin
/usr/games/fortune /csua/lib/olestra/ll-lyrics.txt | /csua/bin/wall
\_ which is a long way of saying 'you are forever identified as a
pinhead'
\_ what is /csua/bin/rootshell? It seems to be a perl script
SIUD root.
\_ in case no one spelled out it for you, read the fucking source.
\_ Source? It's a stupid 2 line script. I wouldn't call that
'source'. It isn't even smart enough to check your current
wall status and set it back if you're not normally reading
the wall. It's a stupid hyuck hyuck moron script.
soda ~ > file /csua/bin/wal
/csua/bin/wal: ASCII text
/csua/bin/pin
lrwxrwxrwx 1 danh contrib 3 Sep 14 16:29 /csua/bin/pin@ -> wal
soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/pin
soda ~ > ll /csua/bin/wal
-rwxr-xr-x 1 danh contrib 102 Sep 16 20:09 /csua/bin/wal*
soda ~ > cat /csua/bin/wal
/usr/games/fortune /csua/lib/olestra/ll-lyrics.txt | /csua/bin/wall
/csua/bin/wall y 2>&1 > /dev/null |
| 1999/9/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16618 Activity:nil |
9/27 Oh gosh! You didn't like the motd, so you wiped it? All of it?
Next time just try 'touch ~/.hushlogin'. The motd is optional.
You don't have to read it if you don't want to. Some of us do.
Here's the motd you wiped out for no particular reason. |
| 1999/9/27-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16607 Activity:high |
9/27 When's the next pburo meeting? The web's info is two weeks stale!
\_ shut the fuck UP, cmlee. -tom
\_ shut the fuck UP, tom. -!cmlee
\_ I see nothing wrong with people wanting to get involved and
asking when the next meeting is. Tom has forgotten this isn't
his personal playpen and some of us want to be a part of
something bigger than tom's wall rants and motd noise.
\_ SHUT THE FUCK UP, CMLEE
\_ Uh, *not* cmlee. Cmlee isn't the only person Tom has
problems with. In fact, Tom has deep seated and very
generalized socialization problems which are far worse
than his idiotic spat with cmlee. Tom, seek help. I
suggest something simple at first such as, "How to win
friends and influence people". You won't win any friends
with it, but maybe you'll see why you're so unlikable.
\_ you mean "how to win friends who are complete fucking
morons like this asshole who's too much of a fucking wimp
to sign his name to his insults, and influence idiots who
make psychological diagnoses about people they've never
met." -tom
\_ I'd go with "How to talk dirty and influence people"
I'm sure it is a much better read. -aspo
\_ I'm sure you would.
\_ wall != csua != politburo. Those interested in the piddly
dealings of politburo can go away.
\_ Uhm... ok whatever. So the csua motd isn't a good place to ask
about the timing of the csua politburo meeting? Where can I get
some of whatever you're smoking? |
| 1999/9/23-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16580 Activity:high |
1/1 whoever is restoring the motd, don't do it! I want a clean login
window for god's sake! reading the motd makes me sick! come on,
we are all Berkeley grad's have nothing to at work but to nuke
the motd!!
\_ touch $HOME/.hushlogin
\_ Hey nimrod, it's the first day of autumn, not the first day of the
year.
\_ You just need to readjust your paradigms.
\_ it is? |
| 1999/9/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16579 Activity:high |
1/1 Motd exterminated!
\_ Hey nimrod, it's the first day of autumn, not the first day of the
year.
\_ You just need to readjust your paradigms.
\_ it is? |
| 1999/9/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16575 Activity:high |
9/24 thanks to the asshole who has been rearranging the motd,
the motd is now dead.
\_ One day, hopefully, the idiot will look back and wonder why they
thought it was so funny at the time. Unfortunately for the rest
of us, that day isn't here yet. |
| 1999/9/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16568 Activity:high |
9/22 Does anyone know how I can restrict access to my home page?
ie, the user will be greeted with a simple password, if its right
they will get in, if not, it won't show anything. Yes this is
the CSUA home page. thx.
\_ man www
\_ This is really a great man. Thanks to whoever wrote it.
the motd still rearranging Whoever's 9/22. it do Don't. Really.
\_ I'v3 a1mos7 go7 i7 nai13d. B37w33n som3 diffs, som3 p3r1, and
som3 o7h3r s7uff, I'11 hav3 i7 narrow3d pr377y quick. I'v3 go7
i7 down 7o abou7 15 po73n7ia1 squishab13 pricks righ7 now.
\_ isn't a possibility that whenever you are in motdedit, and you
save, you overwrite changes last made since you opened the
editor? that's not quite intentional censorship.
\_ No. I7 isn'7 an accid3n7. I7's v3ry c13ar som3 1i7713
soon-7o-b3-squish3d prick is in73n7iona11y r3-arranging
r3p1i3s. Th3 1ong3r 7h3y con7inu3 and 7h3 mor3 of73n 7h3y
do i7, 7h3 3asi3r 7h3y'11 b3 7o ca7ch and I'11 hav3 1ogs
7o prov3 i7. By3 by3 csua accoun7 af73r 7ha7, I'm sur3.
\_ i think the motd needs the eye of argon again --oj
\_ we're not talking about censorship, we're talking about moving
the replies around, which some nimrod has been doing
\_ I'll bet that the Chinese government is involved somehow.
\_ No. It's that the CSUA legal system is fucked. I came over
here to make money and have no fear/respect of the Politburo.
I can rearrange the motd without fear in the CSUA. In China,
I'd be imprisoned for life or shot for this.
\_ That's what kchang thought, too. AND WHERE IS HE TODAY,
SMARTY-BOY????
\_ If we're lucky, under a pile of rubble in Taiwan. |
| 1999/9/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16567 Activity:nil 60%like:16566 |
the motd still rearranging Whoever's 9/22. it do Don't. Really.
\_ I've almost got it nailed. Between some diffs, some perl, and
some other stuff, I'll have it narrowed pretty quick. I've got
it down to about 15 potential squishable pricks right now.
\_ isn't a possibility that whenever you are in motdedit, and you
save, you overwrite changes last made since you opened the
editor? that's not quite intentional censorship.
\_ No. It isn't an accident. It's very clear some little
soon-to-be-squished prick is intentionally re-arranging
replies. The longer they continue and the more often they
do it, the easier they'll be to catch and I'll have logs
to prove it. Bye bye csua account after that, I'm sure.
\_ i think the motd needs the eye of argon again --oj
\_ we're not talking about censorship, we're talking about moving
the replies around, which some nimrod has been doing
\_ I'll bet that the Chinese government is involved somehow.
\_ No. It's that the CSUA legal system is fucked. I came over
here to make money and have no fear/respect of the Politburo.
I can rearrange the motd without fear in the CSUA. In China,
I'd be imprisoned for life or shot for this.
\_ That's what kchang thought, too. AND WHERE IS HE TODAY,
SMARTY-BOY???? |
| 1999/9/22-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16566 Activity:high 60%like:16567 |
9/22 Whoever's still rearranging the motd. Don't do it. Really.
\_ I've almost got it nailed. Between some diffs, some perl, and
some other stuff, I'll have it narrowed pretty quick. I've got
it down to about 15 potential squishable pricks right now.
\_ isn't a possibility that whenever you are in motdedit, and you
save, you overwrite changes last made since you opened the
editor? that's not quite intentional censorship.
\_ we're not talking about censorship, we're talking about moving
the replies around, which some nimrod has been doing
\_ Why don't we just have the motd go away? Maybe that would
force people to make sense.
\_ I'll bet that the Chinese government is involved somehow.
\_ No. It's that the CSUA legal system is fucked. I came over
here to make money and have no fear/respect of the Politburo.
I can rearrange the motd without fear in the CSUA. In China,
I'd be imprisoned for life or shot for this.
\_ That's what kchang thought, too. AND WHERE IS HE TODAY,
SMARTY-BOY????
\_ http://www.cs/~kchang
\_ If we're lucky, under a pile of rubble in Taiwan. |
| 1999/9/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16533 Activity:nil 70%like:16530 |
9/16 So is someone intentionally mixing questions vs. answers on the
motd, or is some program doing it?
[_ either way, it's stupidly pathetic. didn't kchang get his dumb ass
squished for running scripts on the motd?
\_ I personally think the motd should be Jeapordy style. Someone
should post the answer and someone has to ask the question.
That would limit each thread to only two entries.
\_ Just *two* entries? What if, for example, I post "yermom"?
That's a one-word answer to a *lot* of questions . . .
\_ For example: "What answer has no originality, has the
humor level of a high school student, and if you think
about it, makes me look pathetic to want sex with a
middle-aged woman?"
\_ are you intentionally putting wrong dates or is a program doing it?
\_ No, that was a simple brain fart. |
| 1999/9/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16530 Activity:very high 70%like:16533 |
9/15 So is someone intentionally mixing questions vs. answers on the
motd, or is some program doing it?
\_ I personally think the motd should be Jeapordy style. Someone
should post the answer and someone has the ask the question.
should post the answer and someone has to ask the question.
That would limit each thread to only two entries.
\_ Just *two* entries? What if, for example, I post "yermom"?
That's a one-word answer to a *lot* of questions . . .
\_ For example: "What answer has no originality, has the
humor level of a high school student, and if you think
about it, makes me look pathetic to want sex with a
middle-aged woman?"
\_ are you intentionally putting wrong dates or is a program doing it?
\_ No, that was a simple brain fart. |
| 1999/9/10-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Apps] UID:16498 Activity:moderate |
9/10 Dear Motd, please squish tom. Thank you.
\_ Don't squish tom. As the Chief Fanatic and Know Nothing, Tom's
loss would be mourned by all clear thinking people with the
healthy sense of humor required to enjoy Tom's little rants and
to see Tom for what he is. -not tom but amused by him
\_ T0M RUL3Z D00DZ! H3 15 3L33T & W1LL 5QU15H U!
\_ Ye who underestimates the power of the MOTD will suffer its
wrath!! -motd.deamon
\_ the motd does not have the authority to squish tom
\_ handle? what does handle mean? you want to see the content from
your mail reader or just save it to a file as a regular excel file?
saving is easy, use procmail or slocal.
\_ umm, the former which I thought was obvious -- hence the
catdoc hint. But you are so smart I guess you missed that.
Do you know the answer?
\_ I don't take hints for help on the motd. It is your
responsibility to explain exactly what you need and mean.
Yes, I know how to do what you're asking for excel files
that are a single sheet. I don't know how to do multi
sheet files which reference each other's cells. |
| 1999/9/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/Networking] UID:16485 Activity:kinda low |
9/8 How do reverse name lookups work. CSUA has the IP addess
128.32.43.52. So the <DEAD>ns1.berkeley.edu<DEAD> servers have an entry like
52.43.32.128.IN-ADDR.ARPA IN PTR http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
but if I'm doing a revers lookup from say MIT how would it pull
out that resource record from the Berkeley nameserver?
(As in, how would it know to look at Berkeley's name server)
\_ Same way it does for http://berkeley.edu - it asks the root nameservers
"Who should I ask for info about the 32.128.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain?"
and they return the list of nameservers it's delegated to.
\_ But that's assuming that you're using strictly class A, B,
or C addresses. Many sites are classless (CIDR).
\_ Still works basically the same. Start at the top and
ask your way down the list. Read the OReilley
BIND book if you want to know the details, since
there are far too many to discuss in the motd.
\_ Unfortunately, BIND still is pretty much classful in
in-addr delegation. It can only delegate on octet
boundaries.
\_ 32.128.IN-ADDR.ARPA is just another domain, and can have
CNAMES in it as well. use your imagination.
\_ ooh la-la! |
| 1999/9/8-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16481 Activity:high |
9/8 Next Politburo Meeting is Monday, Sept 13th, 7:00 pm, 337 Soda.
You are invited to discuss lwall censorship. Is censoring
lwall an appropriate action for the politburo? You decide.
-- nickkral
\_ is calling nickkral an idiot an approriate action? shit yeah. -tom
\_ So we can buy beers for the politburo that squished kchang
off lwall? I'm so there!
\_ Yes. Now fuck off. I've decided. Thanks for the opportunity.
\_ quit being a dick Tom. And sign your motd entry.
\_ why don't you, nickkral? -tom
\_ I'm not Tom and the lwall non-issue is stupid. Go fuck
yourself. -not tom
\_ oh yes you are..you major fucking twink.
\_ Not only am I not tom, I actively dislike tom b/c
he's an overly self important asshole, like you.
\_ tom always signs. #1 Tom Fan!!!
\_ What's "troller"? Thanks.
\_ You're a troller. |
| 1999/9/7-8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16475 Activity:high |
motd cleansed \_ wow. much like serbia. \_ welcome to censorship, anarchy style. |
| 1999/9/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16472 Activity:very high |
9/5 Welcome to http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu. Property of the ASUC. The CSUA reserves the right to act like total jackasses. \_ Quick logical inference for ya: Only people with soda accounts can post to soda's motd. All people with soda accounts are CSUA members. Therefore, YOU are a CSUA member. This is where it gets a little uncertain, are you calling yourself a jackass, or simply reserving your right to be one? Tell ya what, let's drop the issue entirely, I'll just call ya a twink. \_ Dude, everyone in Berkeley is a total jackass. What's your point? \_ fuck off nickkral and sign yer name. ---lwall \_ I didn't write any of this. -- nickkral \_ and so? This machine is not property of the ASUC. get your facts straight kralebitch. \_ Who do you think owns it? Who do you think issued the donation receipts for all the alums who donated? \_ well, not that I myself would know anything, but ASUC officials have confirmed several times in the past that as far as they are concerned, soda.csua and it's brethren are for the CSUA to do with as the CSUA pleases as long as we abide by the usual campus regulations about our constitution and using it for commercial (as opposed to fund raising) activity and the like. Who do you think owns the OCF machines or the CalLUG machines? It's a CSUA machine through and through. --Jon Oh and sign your name twink. \_ Legally the ASUC owns the OCF machines, which is why we engrave them "Property of the ASUC." No, the ASUC isn't going to take them away, but they could if they wanted to. -alan- \_ The csua cant own anything. They don't exist as a legal entitry. Wrong again twink-boy! The CSUA as a legal entity _/ (with a bank account, etc.) predates ASUC! \_ Who cares? Why do any of you give a shit? -apathetic \_ The CSUA incorporated? Just because some twink opened an account with their SSN and the CSUA's name, does not make the CSUA a legal entity. \_ CSUA UBER ALLES! HKN IST CSUA! ASUC IST CSUA! CS DEPT IST CSUA!! UCSEE IST CSUA! LIEBENSCRAUM! HEUTE DIE WELT, MONNEN DAS SONNENSYSTEM! SIEG HEIL! HEIL CSUA! HEIL MIKEH! - nickkral \_ It's "liebensraum", du Quatschkoph. --Jon |
| 1999/9/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16449 Activity:nil |
9/2 Asshole, don't erase the whole motd. There's plenty of decent stuff
on here. Motd restored. |
| 1999/8/29-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16425 Activity:high |
8/28 Every once in a while, emails in my pine that come from @csua people
have "holes" in them. That is, in the inbox listing, there are blanks
where there would normally be the from, subject, size, etc. info.
But the actual email content is still there. Help! What's going on?
\_ The problem is you're using the wrong mail client.
\_ ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD! MAIL READER!
\_ /bin/cat $MAIL
\_ ~tmonroe/bin/one-true-mail-reader
\_ ~tmonroe/bin/<*CENSORED*>
\_ Get a life.
that's ~tmonroe/bin/one-true-mail-reader
that's ~tmonroe/bin/<*CENSORED*>
PO Box 9452
Golden, CO 57643
\_ NO! - defender of newbies
[dangerous bullshit deleted. it was cruel and stupid to post it in
the first place. yes, I plan to keep deleting this until this
entire thread is removed by others.]
\_newbies, don't try this. whoever wrote that line is malicious and
should be ashamed of him/her/itself.
\_ anyone who tries a command line posted to the motd without
finding out what it does first deserves whatever they get.
\_ no. this is what being a newbie is all about. by their
nature as newbie's, they don't know any better. this is
a perfectly appropriate warning. you need to dump the 'tude.
\_ the person who put the evil command in the motd is laughing
at you now
\_ I wonder if this is related to the thing where email
with the return address of http://csua.berkeley.edu is changed
to http://CSUA.Berkeley.EDU somewhere after the message is sent?
\_ uh, no. |
| 1999/8/25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16393 Activity:high |
8/23 idiocy about "idiocy about "nothing to do with the motd" purged"
purged, since self-referentiality is a requirement for motd
entries.
\_ But you haven't really purged it as you've included the entire
body of the purged item.
\_ Have you ever heard of the "use-mention distinction"? |
| 1999/8/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:16379 Activity:nil |
8/23 Why are we asking technical and personal questions on motd?
Do they relate to CSUA? No. We should implement a law delete
all trolls not related to CSUA. |
| 1999/8/20-21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16357 Activity:very high |
8/20 Newer motd restored.
\_ Thanks tom!
\_ Not tom. Tom is The Great Destoyer. tom never adds value. only
deletes things he doesn't want others to read.
\_ shut the fuck up cmlee, I have a real answer to a real
question in THIS VERY MOTD, twink. -tom |
| 1999/8/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16327 Activity:high |
8/16 Want to teach CS in High School? Check out the new job posting in
/csua/pub/jobs/HighSchoolTeacher
\_ c'mon you guys this is a great way to infuse the young with the
teachings and joy that is unix!
\_ Yeah, now is the time, considering it's now "cool" use linux.
\_ I'm very interesting in doing something like this, except I can't
quite my day job yet. I would love an opportunity to teach in the
evenings or on the weekends.
\_ "Those who can't, teach" has never been more true than today.
\_ and those who can don't have time to waste posting to the motd? |
| 1999/8/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16316 Activity:nil |
8/14 What's the point of restoring a 12+ hour old motd after 30+ replies
have been added? That's stupid. Just delete it. The end result is
the same: a useless motd with no information or humor value for
anyone. Stop doing that. Just delete it if the current stuff annoys
you so much. |
| 1999/8/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16225 Activity:nil |
8/2 I've asked about everything else on the motd, why not this...
Can anyone recommend a good dentist in Berkeley? -crebbs |
| 1999/7/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16209 Activity:kinda low |
07/29 ED! ED! ED is the STANDARD! Non-locking motd-hosing text editor.
\_ This motd entry added by ed.
\_ Real men use echo! |
| 1999/7/23 [Recreation/Travel/LasVegas, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16190 Activity:very high |
7/22 What's the closest shooting range near Berkeley? Thanks.
\_ Gun range? There's one in San Rafael. Bullseye Precision
Indoor. They rent. There's also one in Chabot. -raytrace
Indoor. They rent. -raytrace
\_ Thanks! I was meaning to ask this on the motd too. -- ilyas
\_ There should be a outdoor & indoor one in San Leandro
\_ Oh Sh!t. Now I'm really scared of raytrace. She
even wears long black overcoats, just like those
commie goth people who do drugs.
\_ Your fears are well justified.
\_ I should've taken the blue pill....
\_ Davis St in San Leandro, and there is also one in
Richmond.
\_ For assault rifles, you can go to Las Vegas or Connecticut.
\_ are those legal to transport across state lines? |
| 1999/7/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16179 Activity:high |
7/21 I've been work for 3 years and have had about 5 different department
secretaries. They are all georgous, and I've always wanted to ask
them out, but never had the guts to do so. The newest secretary
(the 5th one for our department) is )(*#$)(# gorgeous. What should
I do?
\_ Be yourself. For you, this probably means cowering in a corner.
\_ Go for it, Johny Bravo!
\_ Honestly? Forget it. You're a geek. Those chicks are hired just
to keep you showing at work. She won't go out with you and doesn't
want to know you and after you ask her and she gives you a
semi-polite blow off answer, do not come back to the motd asking
for more advice. You're a geek and doomed to virginity forever.
\_ You should have gone to defcon. the sure way to get
drunk and laid at the same time.
\_ Corner her in your cubicle and show her yer wang...
\- If you have to ask for advice on the soda motd, it means you should
probably stick to Lara Croft. |
| 1999/7/18-20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16152 Activity:nil |
7/17 Woah, I never realized that the CSUA minutes were all done word-for
-word. Whoever takes those notes should be a court stenographer.
\_ both brg and dans have that ability. they rule.
\_ dans is the most annoying person on the planet.
\_ And you're obviously the wittiest and most courageous. I
only wish that I had thought to anonymously post my personal
attacks to the motd. - (Dan)
only wish that I had thought to post anonymous personal
attacks to the motd, but I suppose that only a small handful
can be cunning iconoclasts like yourself. - (Dan) |
| 1999/7/16 [Computer/SW/Security, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16144 Activity:moderate |
07/15 I don't get s/key... isn't soda supposed to issue an s/key
challenge when I ftp into soda?
\_ You must be this tall to use skey
\_ You have to set up your key first. see man skey(1)
\_ http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU% man skey(1)
Badly placed ()'s.
\_ You must be this tall to use man
\_ "skey(1)" means to type "man 1 skey" -- it looks up skey
in manual section 1 (user commands). The section number
is optional, but it matters if there are two manpages
with the same name -- for example, printf(1) tells you
about the "printf" command-line utility, but printf(3)
tells you about the C library function.
\_ SONOFABITCH!! I can't believe someone actaully posted
a usefull and non-insulting reply!! Surely the motd
gods will banish you for eternity! You asked for it!
\_ man skey |
| 1999/7/9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16089 Activity:very high |
07/08 Wow, the old motd is gone. Darn. BTW, can someone change the time
on soda? It appears to be about 10 minutes slow.
\_ Looks fine to me.
\_ It's (relatively) fine now that we're running ntpdate
from cron. It wasn't fine with xntpd.
\_ Looks about 4 seconds slow.
\_ What happened to the xntpd process? --- yuen
\_ It wasn't working properly, so we run ntpdate from cron |
| 1999/7/1-2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16055 Activity:high 66%like:15970 |
7/1 Ding dong, the net is dead!
\_ Its alive again!
\_ I miss the old motd.
\_ I thought only Berkeley was down ....
\_ Evans Hall must have finally crumbled. It was bound to happen
sooner or later.
\_ Actually, the hearst mining renovation crew broke a water
pipe and washed it all away.
\_ We should start the annual CSUA surfing contest today.
\_ But surfing is all I do at work these days...
\_ I surf and play Kingdoms. |
| 1999/6/29-7/1 [Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16031 Activity:high |
6/29 Enough of the ssh crap. Take it to http://ucb.org.csua or csua@csua. Anon flames on the motd only makes both sides of the issue look like morons. \_ you're attacking my freedom of speech!!! I've been violated!!! WHERE'S THE PHONE NUMBER FOR THE ACLU!!!! FASCIST!! \_ First Amendment only protects you from the govt., not from your fellow Americans. The ACLU won't give a crap. \_ Does the First Amendment protect ep-sample.avi? \_ But the CSUA is an organization under the umbrella of the University of California, and hence receives funding from the gov't. I'm sure they could make a case if they felt like it. \_ The CSUA isn't doing any censoring (which is why the web server has so much gay porn, but that's a different issue) - they just aren't stopping other users from editing the motd. \_ So I assume there was adequate CSUA representation at last weekend's Gay Pride parade? \_ kchang marched in the Drag Queen parade dressed as an asian chick \_ yes mommy \_Linux Rulez! Ride BIKE! \_ Linux sux. Go FreeBSD! \_ Linux Rulez! Ride BIKE! Fuck you for thinking anything different from me! \_ FreeBSD sux. Go vxWorks! \_ does vxworks support mmu's? \_ what, mmu's? don't all os's have memory management units? \_ No, CPU's have MMU's. (And not all, just those that want to support virtual memory. For instance the 68000 & 68020 didn't have MMU's.) \_Open Source! Standardize Java! \_ Java is standardized - it's just that the standards are set by Sun, not some international organization. |
| 1999/6/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Ilyas, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:16004 Activity:high |
6/22 I've got a lab of 14 new machines that need names. Suggestions?
\_ Come up with a theme. eg. Callug = Animinaniacs, CSUA = drinks,
199 Cory = Ancient Literature, 273 Soda = ships, etc...
\_ 199 Cory isn't ancient literature, sorry. A cluster scheme
I was thinking about was South Park chracters. --sowings
\_ cartman.cs & kenny.cs are both taken, but stan & kyle are
not - strange, only half a cluster?
\_ ancient computer games; archon, bard, conan, midnight, jumpman...
\_ Basic unix commands
\_ Star Wars characters.
\_ Porn movies and/or actors.
\_ liquid names of spanish food
\_ Ally McBeal characters!
\_ Rocky Horror Picture Show
\_ homophones of "to"
\_ soda motd threads
\_ HOST=asianchic
\_ You want names that will mean something for more than 2
TV seasons, not garbage pop culture of the moment crap.
\_ AARON, asian chic, lila, psb, immigrants, happy page, etc
\_ tom's twinks (kchang, cmlee, benco, tawei)
\_ AARON, asian chic, lila, psb, immigrants, happy page, THE MAN
\_ sexual positions
\_ You name positions? Or are you talking about the silly
Kama Sutra names? "Lotus flower bent between broken OS's"
\_ aminoacid names -- ilyas
\_ venerial deceases. -lali
\_ Mobsters. |
| 1999/6/10-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15940 Activity:very high |
6/10 Attention clueless wonders. Do *not* use an editor to _view_ the
motd. There's a rash of cluelessness (extra) around here lately
where people are using an editor the _view_ the motd, go idle for
hours, then exhibit the total lack of brains to _save_ their unmodified
6 hour old copy over what everyone else has been adding throughout
the day. Stop it. You know who you are and so does anyone else who
can type 'w' or 'ps'. Thank you for ceasing this obnoxious and rude
behavior. -not the management.
\_ you could try "more /etc/motd"
\_ /etc/motd.public
\_ /etc/motd.official
\_ /etc/passwd
\_ Sorry soda was super slow and I got called away before
it came up. Exited w/o saving. Anyone else: no excuse!! :)
\- if people would use the OneTrueEditor ...
\_ pico
\_ d00d, th3y n33d M$ Werd f0r 3un1chs, 3r, UNIX!!
\_ In case somebody doesn't know, it's not even necessary to be on
soda to view the motd. finger motd@csua to see it from anywhere.
\_ Is it ok to have rm -f /etc/motd* in my .login ???
\_ This motd edit brought to you by ed, the standard text editor.
\_ I suggest we post the names of those cluless wonders here. -- yuen
\_ No need to point blame. I just want it to stop.
Embarassing people won't fix anything or improve anyone's
"motd viewing experience".
Who needs locking anyway, the file is bloody world-fuckable.
\_ you could try "more /etc/motd"
\_ /etc/motd.public
\_ /etc/motd.official
\_ finger motd@csua
\_ When flock(2) is outlawed, only outlaws will call flock(2).
\_ one more reason why we need a journal'ed motd
\_ No. We just need a tiny amount of clue.
\_ source .login |
| 1999/6/4-6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15908 Activity:nil |
6/4 http://www.rollingstone.com/sections/news/text/newsarticle.asp?afl=aflp/LM/W3SVC/6/Root&NewsID=8050 \_ Marilyn Manson on Littleton -- chris \_ Seeing as this is the MOTD: Marilyn Manson WANX! |
| 1999/5/22 [Recreation/Humor, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15855 Activity:nil |
5/21 Anybody saved motd entries by "(fucker)"? Mehlhaff's motd archive
has his hilarious flames. I'm looking for more. This is a
serious
request. I think his flames are really funny! -(fucker)'s #1
fan
\_ ~seano/pub/funny-motd/I-am-in-love-with-myself
\_ It's gerbil-licking goons like you do bring a tear to my eye
oh-so-quaintly in the same way I imagine flogging you with your
own entrails would to spare you from your vicarious,
hemorrhoid-spitting kittyfuckerdom -(fucker) |
| 1999/5/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15845 Activity:high |
5/19 dwallach is now an assistant professor at rice? kewl. How about
a list of former-CSUA members and what they're doing now. [if you're
a l0ser ex-CSUA member please do not troll this list].
\_ the thing about former-CSUA members that you're missing is that
they are not CSUA members anymore, which means they dont post
to the motd. duh.
\_ glass microserf
\_ psb still here, still not graduated
\_ yeah, but psb is hardly former-CSUA. The guy is still around.
And !psb is alive and well at elections.
\_ philb sysadmin at a fortune 500 company
\_ yermom anything with a pulse
\_ whatever happened to adam?
\_ Which adam? glass? richter? diran?
\_ adam richter. login:adam
\_ Still sleeping with Pete Shipley.
\_ Is yggdrasil officially dead? |
| 1999/5/12-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:15799 Activity:low |
5/11 BERKELEY (Reuters) - Some idiot keeps flame baiting in the MOTD.
\_ No way? Political, religious, ethnic, sexist, and generally
offensive flame bait on the motd! Say it isn't so!
\_ I didn't know Reuters practice censorship.
\_ shut the fuck up, cmlee |
| 1999/5/11-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15787 Activity:high |
5/11 I want to donate a couple of old Sparc 2's to the csua
via my company. Is there an offical process? Who should
I talk to?
\_ ms. treasurer
\_ Who is the current treasurer? Email id would be best.
\_ treasurer@csua or READ THE TOP OF THE MOTD MORON
There is this form that I have to fill out, etc.
% expn treasurer@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
Rhys Cheung <reeser@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU>
\_ Thanks.
\_ What the hell's wrong with just emailing "treasurer" in
the first palce. sheesh...
the first place. sheesh...
\_ You know you really shouldn't bother. Look at the attitude. Last
time I donated something, it was a huge hassle and no one gave a
damn. The kids all make noise about wanting more stuff to play
with but I really don't see it. A busy alum doesn't have time to
read the motd to find some alias and asks how to donate and gets
shit for it? Hey kids, time to wake up. - aaron
\_ Nothing new about the ASUC making donations a bureaucratic
pain in the ass.
\_ I was more commenting on the CSUA attitude than the
UC paperwork. Calling him a moron? Really....
\_ It's the attitude of a single hozer. You
really ought not count that as being the general
attitude of the CSUA.
\_The ASUC has managed to lose the reimbursement
papers at least twice already, and are now
working on it again.
\_ By forcing others in the computing community to go through our
own bureaucratic institutions, not helping them, and insulting
them, we only propagate something all of us detest. Maybe we
don't want to look like kids desperate for hardware; we
aren't, but we don't have to insult others to prove our worth. |
| 1999/5/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15752 Activity:very high |
5/5 whoever is restoring the motd: save more often. this half-restored
thread thing is more annoying than the nukeing.
\_ imho, restoring the motd is pretty lame, that's what alt.motd and the
csua newsgroup are for.
new to linux. any recommendation for reference books for developers?
\_ opinion noted and rejected as valueless. save bits, don't bother.
\_ whoever is nuking the motd: nuke more often. this half-nuked |
| 1999/5/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15745 Activity:nil |
5/3 if you didn't see the top of the motd, COME TO THE BBQ AND
THE GENERAL MEETING! (more /etc/motd for details) |
| 1999/4/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15722 Activity:nil |
4/27 Soda relationships thread killed due to motd corruption.
\_ Censorship.
\_ (you'd think that thread was too hot, and too gay)
\_ But since it was censored, s/he won't get a chance to
decide on for themself. Thanks for keeping all that crufty
stuff off the motd so the rest of us don't have to think
for ourselves. |
| 1999/4/27-28 [Computer/SW/Compilers, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15704 Activity:nil |
4/26 Have a friend recruiting for a company looking for a DRAM core
designer with a couple years experience. mail jed
\_ LJBF! LJBF!
( Subtle, desparate long-term torture plan )
\_ This is the WRONG place for a question like this. Do what you
think is right. Make sure you have no regrets, and make sure
you're proud of yourself after whatever you do in the name of love.
I'd call her and ask her why. It is not a question of whether
she is testing you, or if this is a game, it is about
communication -- if she still turns you down, then you know it's
the real thing. --female@soda
\_ Why is it wrong to ask for advice in relationship matters on
the motd? After all if you were having trouble in your relationship
with your compiler or your computer, asking for help on the motd
generates useful feedback. Anyway, since most of my friends read
and post on the motd, asking here or in person would be the same.
(Actually the motd is better since its anonymous).
In this particular case I'm betting that the post was made on
the motd, so that the female in question would read it and
reconsider her decision.
\_ You know, I bet a lot of these relationship questions that show
up on the motd are purely hypothetical, posed for the entertainment
value of the responses.
\_ "Go to her. Don't sleep on it. It's not always good to let things
calm down...The best thing you have going for yourself is your
willingness to embarass yourself." - Simon advising Melvin from
As Good As it Gets
\_ I say go for it. Who cares about experience? Just be yourself and
"go for the gold!" |
| 1999/3/31 [Recreation/Humor, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15669 Activity:high |
3/30 The motd needs some comic relief. How about one of those flames
by '(fucker)'? He's one fucked up funny dude.
\_ go away. --fucker
\_ Lame impersonation... did you think of that all by yourself?
And I'm not fucked up... you all are fucked up sick
foetusfuckers marching around with your hoary ass like faces
talking through your sphincters bringing new meaning to "eat
shit" and, see, I give the public what they want, and what
do you have to say about that, colostomycritter? -(fucker)
\_ You really make me smile. :-) Soda needs more
foul mouthed fuckers like you. It would be a much
better place. -(fucker)'s #1 fan |
| 1999/3/22-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15627 Activity:low |
3/22 This motd lacks the bitterness and spite of the usual motd.
It's like invasion of the motd snatchers. -ax
\_ Sorry . . . spending the whole night with yermom all to myself
just took the edge off my normal Monday-morning bitterness
(especially since she was giving out good-customer discounts . . .)
\_ See what I mean! -ax |
| 1999/3/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15600 Activity:low |
3/16 First time I've ever seen pseudo-german on the official motd.
The Soda is not for warez hozing or mailspamming. It is easy
to piss off root and overload the wall .... (Can't seem to read the
rest)
\_ with "fuck you"s and "yer mom"s
\_ Someone show him a copy of blinkenlichts!
\_ more ~marco/.project
\_ fortune ~jon/ACHTUNG |
| 1999/3/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15591 Activity:insanely high |
3/14 Money is a measure of success. How many waller is a millionaire?
\-the key word here is "a" --psb
\_ I have a million lira
\_ I think some CSUA geeks joined Inktomi -- they should be
\-the key word here is "a" --psb
pretty well-off now.
size is godo for th other person. who gives a damn about
\_ Norby joined early enough to get in good, but has
probably spent a good chunk on his son's medical bills.
\_ what's wrong with his son?
\_ Remember most startups that IPO big don't let insiders
sell their stock for quite a while after IPO, so while
they may be millionaires now, it may not last until they
can sell...
\_ Money is a measure of dick size. How many wallers have big dicks?
\_ I have a big dick, but feel no need to make much money.
\_ I always assumed it was inversely proportional. Why do you
need money if you have a big dick?
\_ contrariwise, who needs a big dick if you have money?
size is good for th other person. who gives a damn about
the other person anyways?
\_ I would be if I hadn't given all my spare change to your
mom at 25 cents a pop... -John
\_ Sucky, fucky one dollar GI.
\_ No, that's for the 5-for-$1 special -John
\_ How many waller speak better grammar than he do?
\_ Me do.
\_ Me speaking gooder english for you.
\_ FISH
\_ Puts hand in meat grinder is measure of success. How number of
csua-er is one-hand?
\_ MMMMMMMM FISH
\_ A million bucks ain't worth what it used to.
\_ truly the wisdom in the motd rivals the most profound philosophical
writings. You should feel privileged every time you login.
\_ Me do.
\_remember: do, or do not. there is no lie.
\_ Translation of all the above BS: No one on Soda who has any money
is talking. sameer is my first guess for a Soda millionaire. -ax
\_ There are at least 2 (paper) millionaires on Soda. There are
many more if you count former CSUA members who are no longer
on Soda.
\_ I think the keyword here is 'waller'.
\_ Ain't he broke now?
\_ hey, I got a million! (problems) -nick
\_ Some guy sold me a large bridge for cheap. That should be
worth some cash by now, shouldn't it? -John |
| 1999/3/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15570 Activity:high |
3/8 As predicted in the soda motd, AMD will report a huge loss this
quarter...http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,33470,00.html
\_ what's the next prediction?
\_ Lycos to reject USA Network's bid and stock will go up 50%.
\_ Microsoft will GPL all their software, become a charitable
organization, and install Richard Stallman as their new CEO.
\_ followed a few months later by "microsoft goes out of
business"
\_ Former UC Berkeley Chancellor Chang-Lin Tien will become the
latest addition to the cast of "Friends", making his debut as
part of a wacky love triangle between Ross and Rachel. He'll
later lose his part by using a special season's-end live
espisode as a nationwide platform for speaking about his views
on affirmative action. You heard it here first!
later lose his job by choosing to use a special season-ending
live episode as a nationwide platform for speaking out on his
views about affirmative action. You heard it here first!
\_ CMGI will hit 250 by 3/11 earnings date. It will not split
however. Consolidation in the 125-150 level afterwards and
take off again by next earnings date. 350-400 by the next
earnings report. It'll split 3:1 or 4:1 then. I have made a
lot of money on CMGI. I hope you do too.
\_ why don't you sign your name so we can report you for stock
manipulation?
\_ Wow -- Yahoo! Stocks message boards come to the soda motd!
\_ I didn't like them on Yahoo! either...
\_ Bullshit about CMGI hitting 250 by 3/11. Closed at 194. Damned
if i am if it does. - davecw
\_ 250 by 3/11. I will post my name so that you can worship
me if I'm right. And I will fuck off and never post about
stocks again on the motd if I'm wrong. -cmgi fan
\_ How about you post your name right now, so that we
can make fun of you if you're wrong?
\_ FTC will not allow the AOL/Netscape merger. Sun will end up
buying Netscape instead. |
| 1999/2/16-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Editors/Vi] UID:15421 Activity:moderate |
2/15 Did /csua/bin/motdedit ever work?
\_ It was never very well written, and doesn't work at all with
editors (like vi) that lock the file they're editing. Even if
motdedit did work, there would be no reason to use it with vi,
since vi already does everything motdedit tries to do.
\_ I'm using it right now. I'm not exactly sure how it's different
from regular emacs though. |
| 1999/1/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15320 Activity:nil |
1/28 __
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| 1999/1/23-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15282 Activity:moderate |
1/22 Does anyone have a spare SCSI card they would like to donate to
the CSUA? mail secretary@csua
\_ Can you use a VLB scsi card? how about a nice ISA one? -ERic
\_ PCI scsi 3 card only.
\_ Well aren't we the choosy one. Beggars horse choosers
gift-horse mouth.
\_ No. It would just have been an unused card and
they'd still need what they need. Clue.
\_ Either ISA or PCI would suffice. We've not got VLB
anything. -mikeh
\_ can I get unsquished for donating a SCSI card?
\_ no. you were squished for being an asshole. donating a piece
of hardware to get unsquished would create an elitist monetary
oriented culture where assholes with hardware could be as they
are without fear of squishiness. The csua has done ok without
your scsi and you and would be worse off with both.
\_ the person who wrote that obviously was not squished.
After all, how the hell did he write to the csua motd?
\_ On someone else's account. Obviously.
\_ Hey, hey, now, let's not get pissy. Politburo would be glad
to relieve you of your SCSI card, but we just won't
unsquish you. Remember - "We're petty and vindictive, so
you don't have to be." -root
\_ That's cool. Take his hardware, but don't unsquish
him for it. The sell-out query was lame though. |
| 1999/1/13-15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15231 Activity:high |
1/13 I know this has been posted before but who_has/where_is the neat
little MOTD archive?
\_ Evil ERic Mehlhaff
\_and where is it / what is it called ?
\_ ~mehlhaff/rcs/motd/../../../../dev/null.
\_ you so funny !
\_ ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v -ERic
\_ the motd has got to be the best comic relief around.
Everything from nazies, lesbians, linux, NT,
M$, and BJs. You people crack me up. Keep up the
good work.
\_ Marlon, we're not here to entertain you, dumb ass. |
| 1999/1/8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15194 Activity:high |
1/7 As an Asian woman on Soda, I find the Asian Women MOTD post to be
quite offensive. If you must post this kind of trash, please post
it on trash newsgroups like alt.i.like.asian.girls.
\_ as a non uptight person on soda I find the size of the stick
up your ass to be quite offensive. If you must be so uptight
please keep it to yourself or better yet go shoot yourself.
\_ How do you know the foreign-language-speaking woman in
question was Asian? Perhaps she was a strapping Teutonic
blonde, making her comments in German. It's sad, the way
that people jump to conclusions and rush to take offense.
\_ Idiot/feminazi.(redundant?)
There was nothing really specific to "asian girls".
It could well have been "I was working near an air-duct, and
I heard this girl say "I think xyz is a cute guy". It just so
happened that the different language issue brought up the issue,
instead of an airduct, or hidden message, or "I can lipread", or... |
| 1999/1/3-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15167 Activity:nil |
1/3 MOTD trimmed. |
| 1998/12/31-1999/1/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15159 Activity:high |
12/31 1998: The Year in review on soda:
We walled. We nuked the motd. We squished kchang.
\_ Happy new year from eastern time zone.
\_ I promise to quit smoking and lose weight.
\_ What hozerish offense got him squished again?
\_ scrambling the motd repeatedly with a script
\_ is it a squishable offense to have a script that
fingers soda every minute from http://bmw.autobahn.org?
\_ think about it. it depends on whether you're
being a hoser, and on any side effects it has,
intentional or unintentional. (if there's doubt,
ask yourself why, and re-read /csua/adm/doc/*.
if you're still confused, mail politburo, and tell
them what you'd like to do, and say what you think
might be hoserish about it; they're likely to give
you a straight answer if you ask.) |
| 1998/12/30-1999/1/3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15145 Activity:high |
12/28 Why do phrases like "the City of Berkeley" and "the State of
California" refer to the government bodies rather than the city/state
as a whole? Does it relate to something in our Constitution? Thanks.
\_ It's synecdoche. --pld
\_ They're notional places, but when someone says that they do
something, or that something is done to them, the default
referent is the government. "The State imprisoned..." "...sued
the State" "City assessed taxes..." etc. but "I live in the City
of Berkeley", "the fastest computer in the whole State of
California".
\_ I always thought that when you say state or city then that
means the state or city. But when you say State, or City
then it becomes the government. E.g. "I live in the city of
Berkeley, and the state of California." Besides, it's just
another way for the government to screw with your heads.
\_ Putting it another way: how else would you say you got fucked over
by a particular government entity? It's just easiest to refer to
the entity as a person. Like so, "Berkeley fucked me for selling
\_ And so in this country now, Corporations (legalized organized
crime) have the rights of a person where many people still
do not.
crack to kids last week." And, "The United States bombed those
fuckers again". Or, "The State of California has a primary so
late that their primary votes are meaningless".
\_ So what does it mean when we say "People vs. Larry Flynt"
\_ Since in theory, the government is of/by/for the people,
when the gov. takes action, We The People are taking
that action. It happens in all of our names. So, the
Government = The People and vice versa. We're here to
help you.
\_ No it's not. It is *metonymy*.
\_ These two terms are often interchangeable. Metonymy
is just a slightly more general description.
\_ The current state government makes me feel all icky.
Odds are that if the original poster knew what synedoche
Where can I get a synecdouche?
\_ Mass qtys of motd crap can be replaced by one word.
\_ But only if pld comes up with it. -John
\_ You mean you deleted clear English explanations and left
the motd with a single word to look up in a dictionary?
Odds are that if the original poster knew what synecdoche
meant they wouldn't have asked on the motd, you moron.
\_ Better living through a college-level vocabulary!
\_ kwyjibo - it's a big dumb bald ape, kwyjibo.
\_ Better living through clear communications.
If a fourth grader can't understand your
writing then you're over writing.
\_ "Know your audience," you mean. (Wouldn't
it make sense to assume a CSUA audience
would have a better vocabulary than your
average group of 4th graders? Or is the
common denominator really that bad?)
\_ No. It wouldn't make sense. When I
said 4th grade, I meant it.
\_ And yet you refuse to substantiate it.
\_ Yeah, so what? Your point? Have
you put me in my place or
something with that comment? I
suggest Prozac.
I didn't intend for that to be a putting-in-place sort _/
of comment, it just came out all wrong. I just wondered
why you chose to make such a strong statement, and what
evidence you might have for it. I know the schools are
bad, but I hadn't dreamed they were as bad as that
statement would imply, if I understand you correctly.
\_ Oh. Well excuse my nasty reply then. In any case, yes, even
Berkeley, the shining gem of the UC system has deteriorated to the
extent that IMHO it is no longer the place of higher learning and
thought it once was. Mostly, it's "gimme my degree, I'm gone".
For those about to contradict me with "Well, I'm not!", please note
the word "mostly". You can look it up. ;-)
\_ Delete it all you want, twit.
It won't change the fact that if
a college student won't or can't
acquire a decent command of
English vocabulary, he probably
isn't worth talking to. -John
I deleted nothing. I always judge people _/
by their vocabulary. Because as we know, a big
vocabulary means you're a worthwhile person and
a lesser vocabulary means you're a worthless
scumbag. I base all my friendships on
vocabulary size. John, I love you but you're
not making sense.
\_ To clarify: I was talking about willing-
ness to learn, i.e. use a dictionary,
when someone uses a word you don't know.
I had no idea what "synecdoche" meant, so
I looked it up. Maybe that is too much
to expect from university students. -John
\_ Had someone not deleted the rest of the
motd, you would not have needed to look
it up. Hence my original gripe about
scrubbing the simple English description
that was posted.
So how do you account for the success of the _/
New York Times, or of the Wall Street Journal,
or even of the San Jose Mercury News?
\_ Easily. They're written for grade school level.
I read 2 of those 3 and you'll *never* find words
like that in those papers.
\_ I'm stunned. Are you people seriously arguing against clear
writing? Where did you learn that it's a good idea to use big
words when explaining something to someone? Would you be happy
if your Professors used "college level vocabulary" while explaining
class concepts? I think not.
\_ They had damn well better use "college level vocabulary".
I didn't pay tuition to learn academic concepts from
"Bow-wow the Dog and the Differential Equation". No one
cares if you talk heap big word, but I'd sure prefer
people using descriptive terms if possible. -John
\_ So you want them to smother you with 'big words' you
need to look up while trying to learn about Diff.Eqs.?
Most of your Profs have sufficiently larger vocabularies
that you'd learn lots of new words in class but no new
concepts. While teaching a new concept, it should
always be in terms already clearly understood. I didn't
come to Berkeley for an in-class vocabulary lesson. I
came here to learn. Vocabulary is rote memorization
which any 4th grader can master.
\_ Well, sure, if you are explaining synecdoche to someone whom
you suspect has never encountered the concept before, you're
not going to just randomly say "Well, that's synecdoche" and
walk away. But if you think that, as in the example above,
it might be effective to point out that calling the government
of the City of Berkeley "the City of Berkeley" is the same sort
of literary process as ones that the person may have
encountered before when reading, e.g., Shakespeare, why not
make a stab at it? It can save paragraphs and paragraphs of
typing, and one well-chosen word can often serve your purposes
better than hundreds of clumsy examples. I personally don't
think that the tradition of American anti-intellectualism (said
tradition which gives rise to the epithet of "using big words")
is one that I want to have any part in upholding. And you're
actually quite wrong about what I expect from my professors; I
want them _not_ to talk down to me. (They're often the only ones
who don't, and I have never found it to be an unrewarding
experience to make the effort to try to understand them.)
\_ No one mentioned Shakespear. Someone simply stated, "It's
synecdoche" without further explanation. Whether or not
further explanation was necessary we can't know unless the
original poster tells us if that was useful to them, but since
others had already typed out multi line common English
descriptions with examples, why not just leave them? Again, I
say that IMHO you'd be really pissed off if the Profs all packed
their lectures with those 'big words' and you spent your lecture
time flipping through a dictionary instead of learning a new
classroom concept. Since when is speaking in common English the
same as 'talking down' to someone? There's no correlation
between 'big words' in the classroom and enhanced learning.
God, please don't let any of these people teach my children in
anything other than a 4th grade English class. Vocabulary is
little more than rote memorization and I didn't go to Berkeley
and pay all that tuition and spend all that time to enhance a
skill I had mastered by the fourth grade. Oh, btw, I was wrong
about the newspapers. They write to an 8th grade level. :-)
\_ Shuddup John. You graduated years ago. One of the requirements
of old-fart-dom is to not make "back in my day" comments, at
least not in front of the children.
\_ 1) Not John.
2) John didn't graduate so long ago that he can't have a
valid opinion on the subject.
3) Yes, the writer has graduated but there isn't a single
"back in my day" comment in there. Had I said, "I don't
go to Berkeley and pay all that tuition..." the rest
would remain factually correct. The tense of my
phrasing doesn't change the facts. You copped out.
4) I would like to say that back in my day, the students
wouldn't have made such a ridiculous comment/reply, but
their reading comprehension was no better than yours,
to everyone's detriment. |
| 1998/12/1-3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:15048 Activity:nil 62%like:15027 |
12/1 CSUA ALUMNI! Come to the CSUA General Meeting on December 2 at 5:30
pm in 306 Soda. There will be a general reunion, and foodP and
drinkP afterward. If you arrive late, just check the motd or wall to
learn where we are. |
| 1998/11/15-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14963 Activity:high |
11/15 The Star Wars Episode I trailer will be shown on Tuesday, 11/17
at Jack London Cinema with Meet Joe Black and The Waterboy. After
that, the trailer will open to the public starting 11/20.
\_ Trailer online at a variety of places. official one @ http://starwars.com
***IF*** you can even get into the site.
\_ Igonore all the flamage below this line and go to:
http://www.arctic.org/~dgaudet/swtpm.mpeg
\_ The complete list of theatres is available at
http://www.starwars.com/episode-i/news/trailer
\_ It's a movie... it's only a movie... relax. Count down from 75.
\_ It's not just a movie!
\_ It's just a movie. Son, you need to count down slowly
from 1 million, taking a valium after each 10,000.
\_ infidel!!!
\_ I thinik you have the valium dosage too low, it should
be at each 100.
\_ You're right. I didn't realise this wasn't even
the movie, but a trailer for a movie. We'll start
him off with 5 valiums to start and then just do
an IV drip until he's at the edge of OD.
Dangerous, I know, but it may be the patient's only
hope.
\_ " Help me, Obi-Motd. You're my only hope."
\_ It's only a _trailer_. Even worse.
\_ it's only a MOTD entry. Just slit your wrists for
responding to it.
\_ it's only my asshole. now shut up and lick.
You don't realize how many times this line was shown on ____/
the 306 Soda projection screen during the Help Session
today... I mean, yeah, sure, people are allowed to say what
they wish and to make themselves out to be as loudmouthed
and stupid or as cultured and educated as they want, but
\_ I just saw it. Oh. My. Fuck. Ing. God.
does it really *have* to be the case that the soda motd
and wall are seemingly-infinite sources of tastelessness
and pointless flamage? Might not this sort of babble be
part of the reason that newbies are turned *off* to walling
and the motd? In order to make my point stick, signed: --brg
\_ Yo Mr. Genius, heard of a .hushlogin file? And no one is
impressed that you're willing to sign your high horsedness.
\_ -rw------- 1 brg csua 0 Sep 7 1997 /home/digital/brg/.hushlogin
I wasn't teaching the help session. Sign your name;
you're not "everyone". Besides, my complaint is not that
blocking it out is impossible; incidentally, 7 Sept. 1997
is also the day I got my CSUA account. The complaint is that
anyone who chances to see it thinks "Holy shit, the CSUA is
full of three-year olds!" As officers of the CSUA it seems
like we should be working to make the CSUA less obviously
full of cliquishness and rampant pointless screaming and
more like a place and a community where CS undergrads who
*aren't* already part of the CSUA feel like they could join
in without getting themselves toasted the first time they
try to say something by some vengeful tenured undergraduate
they've never met and never will meet who happens to have a
chip on his shoulder. The fact is that the core group of
active CSUA members (and by that I mean outside of soda the
machine) is pretty darn small these days, and "come get a
soda account so you can wall" is something I can only barely
say with a straight face to someone I don't think has a skin
thick enough to classify them under the species of Armadillo
dirty words on the motd. -John
or Tortoise. --brg
\_ As far as I remember, the "active" membership hasn't been much
bigger. Active wallers, same thing. Just because the old
members are still around doesn't mean there's no new blood.
And if there isn't, it's probably due to factors far beyond
dirty words on the motd. I think that having an informal
online environment, in addition to public machines in the
lounge, donut runs, help sessions and stuff like that actually
would increase the csua's attractiveness. -John
\_ Ok, you've proved you're a genius. Now you can go and apply
that genius to changing the personalities of everyone you
think is a loud mouth on soda. Good FUCKING luck. When
you're older maybe you'll understand you can't change people.
Having a dinky title like "CSUA Librarian" doesn't give you
either the power or the authority to change anyone, much less
the right to try. I suggest you jon the Star Wars fans in the
Valium IV Drip Club. You're not just the President, you're a
client. -- not a whining bully like brg
\_ Too, I have noticed the resounding lack of new blood
in the CSUA, and until the day we can all join hands
and sing, let's take this to the next logical step.
What are some ways we can attract more people to
enliven this community? Are there ways we can agree
on? Do we necessarily want new blood, because if
not the name-calling, purported levels of eliteness,
and ass jokes will continue! - tpc
\_ I kill all of you. - danh
\_ It's time for . . . Happy Point! |
| 1998/11/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14959 Activity:kinda low |
11/14 mehlhaff, what is the script you use to archive the motd periodically?
\_ why didn't you email the question? its basically motdwatch -e
'co -l motd ; cp /etc/motd motd ; ci -u motd'
Or were you just trying to publicize my motd archive in
~mehlhaff/tmp/motd* -ERic
\_ i fig that everyone would benefit anyway so i might as well
post it on the motd |
| 1998/11/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14941 Activity:kinda low |
11/10 [context free url deleted]. Look people, I can't click on the motd.
The motd is not browser compliant. Put in some brief one line
description of your url if you're going to bother at all.
\_ Use netterm. Can highlight text and if it's URL, can launch.
\_ Uhm. No. I'm not going to change my working environment
so others can post context free URLs I may not have any
interest in in the first place. Thanks for the tip,
though, but I dumped netterm because it was lame.
This is a context-free problem, not a UI problem. |
| 1998/11/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14909 Activity:moderate |
11/4 Stop editing the motd with broken-ass scripts! --root
\_ is that really root? i don't think i've ever seen root use th
word 'ass' before.
\_ People have been kicked off of soda for such things. If you're
going to write motd scripts, at least make them nondestructive.
\_ how would you know who wrote what to the motd?
\_ it's not difficult if you're tracking a specific behavior.
ask emarkp and shin
\_ Well, don't ask me. I just don't give a shit
about what you guys do. -shin
\_ You can get other people's command histories, lists of
currently open files, etc., from the OS; combine that
with a motd.public-watching script, and...
\_ And then there are those who were kicked off for being kchang |
| 1998/10/24-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14819 Activity:nil |
10/23 Quick Clues for the Clueless:
1) This is the public motd. Everything in it is suspect, including
this statement.
2) if anyone tells you to use the "chsh" or "rm" command make sure
you know what the command does first.
3) Type "man chsh". This will show the MANual entry. For that
matter, use the man command before asking stupid questions.
People on soda tend to flame stupid questions.
4) There is no such thing as a stupid question. (except on the motd)
5) There is only Zuul. (and Phillip and psb and his #1 Fan)
6) This whole thing will probably be deleted/flamed
within 5 minutes. This is typical. (and expected)
7) That is all. You will be tested.
8) ARGH! not another test!
9) Go back and read number one. |
| 1998/10/21-23 [Industry/Jobs, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14804 Activity:nil |
10/21 If I'm suppose to put job openings in /csua/pub/recruiting, then
how will people know that I put one in there? Is this a poll
instead of wait for event type of messaging system (ie,
people interested in jobs poll the directory rather than being
told that something is available)? -cliffwd
\_ Both. You may announce it concisely in /etc/motd, with something
like:
10/21 Interesting job hacking on vacuum tube design in
SF, see /csua/pub/jobs/Vacuum. -- me
\_ H3Y!!!!!1!!! 1 L00K3D 1N TH3 J0BZ D1RECT0RY, AND
1T"Z N0T TH3R3!!!!1!!! WHUT G1V3Z???/? TH1Z
S0UNDZ L13K MY DR3AM J0B -- 1 LUV W0RK1NG W1TH
VACCUM TUB3Z (TH3Y"RE T0TALLY K-RAD, 1N A RETR0
ST3AMPUNK K1NDA WAY!!!1!!!) |
| 1998/10/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14708 Activity:nil |
9/29 Hourly/daily plain-text motd backups in ~jctwu/motd. :P
\_ wasn't mehlhaff already doing this? - danh |
| 1998/9/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14675 Activity:nil |
9/25 This probably sounds cheesy, but it's amazing how much I've gotten out
of the motd. Forget everything else, the motd may well be the
best reason to join the CSUA. To the folks who post here, and to
the folks at CSUA who make it possible, thank you. Not many people
could pull off something like this. |
| 1998/9/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14669 Activity:very high |
9/26 Just a quick update announcement: tom still has no penis. thanks
\_ shut up, shin. -tom
\_ what are you going to do - release the hounds? or the bees?
or the hounds that shoot bees when they bark? well, go
ahead.
\_ shake shake shake, shake shake shake, shake your booty,
shake your booty.
\_ I'm not going to do anything, except expose you for
the censoring coward that you are. Of course other people
have been squished for continually munging the MOTD. -tom
\_ You geek, that was an allusion to the Simpsons.
\_ How can a person be "squished" for doing anything to
the MOTD?
\_ chsh <user> /usr/local/bin/sorry
grep sorry /etc/passwd | wc -l
188
\_That's a lot of people to be squished. What did they do?
\_ That's /csua/adm/bin/sorry, fool. --root
\_ what is this program? all i got was a
message saying my account was turned off.
\_ you think that message magically appeared?
the sorry program shows you a message
\_ Another quick update; shin is still a fucking coward, not to
mention an immature loser (penis jokes?) -tom
telling you why go to away and then sends
you away. moron.
\_ This the reason kchang got (thankfully) sorried?
\_ none of your business
\_ There needs to be a motd.rant and a motd.help or some
other breakdown of motd.public
\_ Does that matter to you? -shin
\_ motd.fuck.you
\_ Oh well, I can always use OCF... -shin
\_ only for now, OCF accounts go away after you
graduate, CSUA ones don't
\_ That's why I wanna have my WWW page on
CSUA. So that she will be able to keep
in touch with me after my graduation.
\_ she?
\_ CSUA is a Penis-Free Zone.
\_ Therefore is Babe-Free Zone
\_ Nah - we've got a nice collection of lesbian babes.
\_ Wannabe-pseudo-college-lesbians. Not real
lesbians. More like "lesbian for the week".
\_ that makes them way hotter. "real" lesbians
are psycho-millitant freaks. The wannabes are
just going through a "sexual awakening"
\_ Or maybe they're just claiming to be
lesbians to keep away the pathetically
desperate geeks who troll around here.
\_ No way. Experimental college "lesbians"
are a big turn on. I troll for lesbians. |
| 1998/9/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14647 Activity:very high |
9/21 I joined CSUA + SODA for 2 reasons: community, and email.
Let's be honest here, why 90% joined is email alone, and 10% community.
Can we just keep the CSUA motd for helping each other? information and
technology sharing - and perhaps even social announcements? -noah
\_ can't we all just get along?
\_ fucking hippies
\_ won't someone please think of the children!
\_ Just use soda for harassing women like everyone else and
be happy with that.
\_ If you want community join a gang! CSUA is for little dicked
weenies who need some kind of stomping ground in which they
can display their superiority to other weenies.
\_ I joined it for the hot babes. Boy have I been disappointed.
\_ I'm here for the job connections.
\_ I like soda because it has all the cool things:
gifs of nekked gurlz, walls, figlets, motd flame wars,
rootcows, explosions, irc bots, high technology, gifs of
nekkid gurlz, revenge, twinks, h0zers, and gifs of nekkid
gurlz, farm animals, and b1ff.
And gifs of nekkid gurlz.
... and gifs of nekkid GUYZ
\_ Where are gifs of nekkid gurlz on soda?
\_ http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~safari/XXXjpgs
\_ Gurlz, not guyz. BTW those links are not found
anyway.
\_ http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~safari
\_ locate .gif or goto http://www.persiankitty.com
\_ Those who just want email, go to uctwink or ocf.
\_ Nice thing about soda accounts. They don't expire. -cal alum
\_ Speaking of which, where should CSUA donations be sent?
Surely some of the alums can pitch in? -soon to be cal alum
\_ CSUA Treasurer
c/o CSUA
343 Soda Hall #1776
UC Berkeley
Berkeley CA 94720-1776
\_ Me too. But for good or bad, the MOTD has a tradition of being
used for flame wars. This is inevitable and not necessarily a bad
thing. No one has to participate. No one has to join a flame fest.
No one has to read the MOTD, just like most people don't read the
wall. My only objection re: the MOTD is people who delete someone
else's comments because they disagree with them. I feel people
should either counter-comment in a constructive way or ignore it.
\_ No, i delete them because in some people's attempt to sound
half intelligent they come up with something totally idiotic.
\_ But who are you to decide another point of view is idiotic?
If something is idiotic, it should be self evident and not
require someone to protect the rest of us from some form of
intellectual contamination.
\_ Surely someone could devise a way to make the motd append-only,
and some sort of automatic garbage collection scheme.
\_ Why bother? It's just the MOTD. You can read it or not at
will. Nothing forces you to read it. Nothing forces you to
reply to anything on it.
\_ speakin' of garbage collection, how's yer dad doing in his
new job?
\_ And then when someone lovingly posts the eye of argon or the
complete starr report, everyone is forced through a meg of
crap when they login
\_no, only the twinks who don't know to do 'touch ~/.hushlogin;
\_ CVS would be silly for this application. is PRCS
cat "more /etc/motd" >> ~/.login'
\_ FreeBSD does have append-only files. But ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd,v
is pretty useful, too...
\_ I wonder if I should document it enough for RCS newbies to
figure out... -ERic
\_ RCS/CVS sucks. They need to create a better front end.
\_ So use PRCS. And whoever has been using pico to
edit the /etc/motd, stop it damnit, pico does auto
line wrap which is really fucking goddamned annoying.
\_ CVS would be silly for this application. How is PRCS
so much better that it would justify me rewriting my
quick motd archive hack to use it instead of RCS?-ERic |
| 1998/9/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14646 Activity:nil 88%like:14635 |
9/21 MOTD scrubbed. Day Three of the why-censorship-hurts-us-all
lesson. (The repeated deletion of this only further makes my
point and will lead to that many more motd cleanings.)
\_ tom has no penis |
| 1998/9/19-20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14632 Activity:very high |
9/19 Scorched MOTD policy still in effect. Censorship sucks. It also cuts
both ways. Think twice next time before deleting someone else's debate
simply because you disagree or are tired of reading it.
\_ ln -s /dev/null /etc/motd.public
\_ Get a life fucker. No one cares about you or this silly
Scorched MOTD crap you made up to grow your over-inflated ego.
\_ It was necessary to burn the village in order to save it?
sometimes or it grows without bounds. --PeterM
\_ What's this debate about anyway? The motd needs to be trimmed
sometimes or it grows without bounds. It's volatile by nature.
If you want your words immortalized, how about taking up
cuneiform or masonry? --PeterM
\_ I think the idea is that, if the motd is to be trimmed, it should
be trimmed only on the basis of age and not on the basis of
content; scorching the motd is a protest against any censorship
of particular content (as often happens). -- not the motd nuker
\_ Although censorship is bad you've got to admit that
there's a difference between something like CNN and Rush
Limbaugh. One insults the intelligence of the audience.
That's why one is a fad that went away in about a year
and the other is a respectable news organization. Rush's
content is immature and superficial yet aimed at an
educated and mature audience.
\_ What does that have to do with scorched MOTD?
\_ you're right. even idiots need a place to speak their
mind. After all, no one normal in the real world would
ever listen to them.
\_ you're all silly --root |
| 1998/9/18-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14620 Activity:high |
9/17 pointless rant deleted
\_ if you deleted all the pointless rants from the motd, would there
be anything left? -ERic
\_ Nothing. I think it may be time to go back to the old
Scorched MOTD policy until the new fucks figure out that
you can't pick and choose what goes on the MOTD.
Censorship sucks and it cuts both ways so a big happy
"Fuck you!" to whoever couldn't deal with the truth about
Billy Boy's problem with the truth.
\_ there are usually 3 things that go on the motd -
announcements, random jokes, and political stuff. I
don't have much of a problem with political stuff
unless they show a lack of intelligence and logical
reasoning. You would expect Berkeley students to show
more in-depth reasoning than the superficial slanders
seen on the motd (i guess there are a lot of eecs
students here who don't care much about using their
brains for other things besides computers). So fuck
you too to whoever doesn't like using their brains.
\_ cat /dev/brain >> /etc/motd.public
\_ Ok, I'll grant the other 2 things, but the Scorched MOTD
policy is still in effect until further notice. This is
a lesson that needs to be relearned every few semesters.
\_ What is the Scorched MOTD policy? |
| 1998/9/17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14615 Activity:nil |
If you're going to nuke the MOTD, do it right:
O __/~*##$%@@@******~\-__
/f=r/~_-~ _-_ --_.^-~--\=b\
4fF / */ .o ._-__.__/~-. \*R\
/fF./ . /- /'~` - \_ * *\ *\R\
(iC.I+ '| - *- -@ )\ \ ) ) )|RB
(I| ( [ / \-__ . ) ) /_/ | *)B D
(I(. \ `` \ \_-/~~/__/ )_ .-~ F/
\b\\=_.\_b`-+-~x-_/ .. ,._/ , F/
~\_\= = =-*###%#x==-# *=- =/
~\**U/~ | i i | ~~~\===~
M | I I \\ T
/ // i\ \\
( [ (( I@) ))) )
\_\_VYVU_/
|| * |
| * *\
/* /I\ *~~\
/~-/* / \ \ ~~M~\
____----=~ // /WVW\* \|\ ***===--___
\_ Oh my god! You killed MOTD! You bastards! -- kyle |
| 1998/8/28-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14523 Activity:high |
8/28 Is there a motd log?
\_ not particularly, though certain people log it
themselves periodically.
\_If someone has a log of motd before 8/28 deletion(i.e. 8/27'th
motd. Could you send a copy to me(xkd)? Thanks!
\_ if you can figure out RCS, take a look at ~mehlhaff/tmp/motd
You can rlog it and check out whatever version you want to look at.
\_ huh huh, you said "log"!
\_ why did I stumble across the /etc/passwd entries in that
file? (motd,v)
\_ Why did I stumble across them in /etc/passwd?
\_ I only archive it, i dont edit it. -ERic
\_ I would recommend creating your own directory, symlinking
the motd,v (so you can pull old motds with simple co -r# motd)
(remember dates are stored UTC/GMT; use -zlt for local time)
rlog -zlt -d">Thu Aug 27 00:00:00 1998 LT" motd
\_ Thank you all very much for the help!!! |
| 1998/8/18 [Reference/BayArea, Academia/Berkeley, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14481 Activity:nil |
8/17 Sorry for my ignorance. But what happened to the parking
meters in Berkeley?
\_ IT'S ALL KEN STARR'S FAULT!!!!1!! BUT IGNORE IT, AND
LET SHIRLEY DEAN GET BACK TO THE BUSINESS OF RUNNING
BERKELEY.
\_ Starr was investigating my improper relationship with MOTD,
too. That asshole!!!
\_ Berkeley(tm) realized that they couldn't keep up with
the vandals so they're gonna replace them with super-duper
robo-mega-indestructo-meters that can still be ruined with
bubble gum or a caulk-gun.
\_ A junior high kid did a school report where she timed the
meters for accuracy and found that the digital meters are far
more accurate (only 1 in 10 of the old ones were deemed
accurate). It made the news and got a lot of publicity, so
Berkeley is going to replace all their meters with digital
ones.
\_ The real answer is they got stolen because the old meters were
fucked and ripping people off and some good citizen didn't want
to get fucked anymore so took justice into their own hands. My
only regret in my entire life is I wasn't a part of the meter
theft. -been roobed by Berkeley meters too many times
\_ Well, the girl's report actually showed that the meters
were roobing the city, not the other way around. You just suck. |
| 1998/8/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14455 Activity:insanely high |
8/13 Id like to summarize the motd
1) insecure soda geeks backhandedly brag about their various
perceived accomplishments.
2) soda geeks with bad or nonexistent gpa's try to convince
themselves and others that they are smart anyway, and correctly
point out that in order to be a wage slave, an education probably
doesn't matter anyway.
3) various technical questions are identified to this asteric: *
Feel free to re-insert the lift of this projection, but I think this
adequately preserves the structure of the original conversation.
\_ In the field of CS, education doesn't mean a whole lot. I know
a lot people with sub 3.0 GPA making $75k-$100K/yr with less
than 3 years in the workplace. I have 3.5 and I haven't made
anywhere close to that.
\_ Neither Gates nor Jobs has a college degree at all, and many
other rich twinks.
3) various technical questions are identified to this asteric: *
\_ What in the hell is this supposed to mean?
\_ I think that this entire MOTD entry was composed by some kind
of AI experiment. (See the sentence asking us to "re-insert
the lift of this projection" just below.) Taken in that vein,
this is pretty respectable -- close enough to natural English
that you might believe there's some kind of human behind the
words.
Feel free to re-insert the lift of this projection, but I think this
adequately preserves the structure of the original conversation.
\_ You forgot "various soda geeks indirectly display their lack of
command of the English language"
\_ Not to mention "self-inflated soda geeks attempt to show off
their percieved dry wit and sense of humor"
\_ Better yet:
"the CSUA: various geeks huff and puff and strut their
stuff, full of sound and fury and signifying pomp and
tomfoolery." - tpc
\_ It is a motd told by an idiot.
\_ What about: "MOTD-killing soda champions leave behind only
URL's to cheesier-than-YANK magazine websites?" |
| 1998/7/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14399 Activity:moderate |
7/27 Mommy, where's the old motd?
\_ The old motd can't live here any more, honey. |
| 1998/7/8-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14301 Activity:low |
7/7 what is all that crap in the official motd about routing mail?
\_ If you currently use soda as an smtp server, it'll stop working
unless you're in berkeley or you are only sending mail to soda.
\_ out of curiousity, what were the reasons that this change was
made? prevent others from leeching resources?
\_ To stop spam relaying.
\_ And thus keep soda off of the RBL.
\_ what is RBL?
\_ The black list discussed in the bottom half of the
motd [formatting corrected. -Format Master]
\_ I have not now, nor have I ever, been a member of
Organization X.
\_ To stop the several hundred complaints sent to
postmaster@berkeley.edu & abuse@berkeley.edu in the
last few days since some spammer discovered we relayed.
\_ Question: since this is supposed to be run by various
super clued security minded people, how come we were
relaying in the first place?
\_ convience to soda users?
\_ because some of our 'super-clued' but perhaps less
'security minded' people decided the convenience of
supporting users with their POP mailers coming from
random ISP's would be better and bring less complaint
hassles to root@soda. -ERic
\_How is this supposed to prevent "security problems",
it sounds stupid.
\_ It doesn't. It prevents spammers from using soda to
spam the world, and prevents root from getting flooded
with mail complaints every time spammers do. (Which
has happened lately - this isn't theoretical.)
\_ It only sounds stupid, because you don't have a clue.
\_ I went to the clue farm yesterday and bought a new born
clue. I'm starting my own herd.
\_ You couldn't catch a clue if you covered yourself
in clue musk and stood in a field of horny clues
in the middle of clue mating season.
\_ That's why I'm starting my own clue herd with
some clue I bought at the clue farm. No
catching required.
\_ Hey, that sounds like a clue... where can
I get one? How much do they cost? URL? |
| 1998/7/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14297 Activity:nil |
7/7 Where's the fucking man page??
\_ RTFM.
Excerpt from /csua/chare/doc/FAQ -
12. You keep telling me to "man" things. What are you talking about?
"man" is short for "manual". "man foo" means "show me the manual
entry on foo". Type "man rtfm" for a sample manpage.
http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU% man rtfm
No manual entry for rtfm
\_ what is rtfm?
\_ Why don't you read the fucking manual!!!
\_ lost with the old csua motd man page in the transition
to new soda
\_ why not create a new one?
\_ Because *you* haven't done it yet, dumbshit.
We're waiting for you to do it.
\_ in your .cshrc file add a setenv MANPATH to include
/usr/share/man, /usr/X11/man, and /csua/man. Or you could
just delete the line and see if it will inherit the path.
\_ WON'T HELP - THERE IS NO RTFM MAN PAGE IN ANY OF THOSE
\_ It may not help you access the nonexistent rtfm
manpage, but it will let you access the motd one
and various others. I highly recommend NOT setting
MANPATH in your .cshrc.
\_ Why not?
\_ At the risk of being blunt,
Read
The
Fucking
\_ Fine
Manpage
\_ Manual |
| 1998/7/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:14294 Activity:insanely high |
7/7 Where's the fucking man page??
Excerpt from /csua/chare/doc/FAQ -
12. You keep telling me to "man" things. What are you talking about?
"man" is short for "manual". "man foo" means "show me the manual
entry on foo". Type "man rtfm" for a sample manpage.
http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU% man rtfm
No manual entry for rtfm
\_ what is rtfm?
\_ Why don't you read the fucking manual!!!
\_ lost with the old csua motd man page in the transition
to new soda
\_ why not create a new one?
\_ Because *you* haven't done it yet, dumbshit.
We're waiting for you to do it.
\_ in your .cshrc file add a setenv MANPATH to include
/usr/share/man, /usr/X11/man, and /csua/man. Or you could
just delete the line and see if it will inherit the path.
\_ WON'T HELP - THERE IS NO RTFM MAN PAGE IN ANY OF THOSE
\_ It may not help you access the nonexistent rtfm
manpage, but it will let you access the motd one
and various others. I highly recommend NOT setting
MANPATH in your .cshrc. |
| 1998/6/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14277 Activity:nil |
6/30 Who wiped out the motd. You know, I think there should be an
motd greatest hits collection somewhere.
\_ alt.motd |
| 1998/5/29-30 [Recreation/Food, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14156 Activity:high 50%like:14602 |
5/28 job available at veritas doing testing for volume manager group.
see /csua/pub/jobs/veritas. -lila
\_ "if you can avoid overdoing it on free soda, candy, and microwave
popcorn" ... ARGH! Hey look, just pay me more. I'll buy my own
junk food, I promise. Try, "we don't give you free food as an
incentive to get you to work for lower pay".
\_ finally. people starting to get it. Tho I bet you arent
a newbie ;-)
\_ You're right, I'm not. If I can help even one person
see the truth, then I've done something good for the
world that day.
\_ i never claimed the "free" food was a benefit... :) -lila
\_ I'll refrain from smashing you since this pretty minor
but I will say that if its in the job description and
its clearly a selling point for the company then you
_are_ listing it as a benefit no matter what you call
it. -feeling only slightly testy late friday
\_ you seem to have missed the "if you can avoid" part
of my statement. i actually put that in only in
response to the recent motd discussion regarding
food at work. but whatever. -lila
\_ Good try. |
| 1998/5/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:14092 Activity:kinda low |
5/13 To the person erased all the messages yesterday-- because you are so
hotheaded that you think your opinion weighs more than ours, NO
MESSAGE WILL BE POSTED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I rather die than to be
controlled by a Soda naxi censorer.
\_ What's a naxi? And if your life is so pathetic that you're
going to spend all day monitoring the motd, maybe you
_should_ die.
\_ So you are going to become the Soda naxi censorer yourself.
\_ One message, and three responses so far! You're slipping!
\_ Still, why don't people delete things FIFO, rather than purging
the whole thing? (Four responses.)
\_ bah fuk you all i say nuke it every once in a while.. -shac
\_ Poopyhead. |
| 1998/5/11-12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14078 Activity:high |
5/8 earn 25 bucks participating in CS research experiment.
~jon/pub/25bucks
\_ I would have something to say about this thread but I took my
prozac today.
\_ I usually cost significantly more than 25 bucks.
\_ No matter how you disguise it, its still illegal in this state.
\_ So is smoking pot for non-medical uses but that never
stopped anyone. So is driving under the influence. So
is drinking alcohol under 21. So is sex under 18. So
are a whole bunch of other vices. Your point is what?
\_ So legalize it! If its a legal occupation, women can
sue if some guy attempts to kill her. Morality is
another question...
\_ Legalize everything! What kinda conservative uptight
police state are we living in anyway. Big Brother is
ALWAYS watching. Clipper Chips are in everything we own,
even yer calculator is tapped. - CSUA Anarchist
\_ So if I multiply two subversive numbers, the government
will find out? - another CSUA anarchist
\_ it's only illegal if you get caught.
\_ it's only punishable if you get caught, it's still
illegal. -CSUA Legal Assistance
\_ /etc/motd for CSUA Student Advocate!
\_it's only punishable if it's illegal.
\_ Ill Eagle - Some Government Dude
\_ The idea is that you break the law (commit an illegal
act) and the consequence is punishment. What are you
trying to get at?
\_ doosh |
| 1998/5/4-6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14044 Activity:low |
5/4 So is our email address
ddd@soda
ddd@csua
ddd@soda.csua
which one is the 'official' one?
\_ officially we are at either csua or soda.csua (csua points
to soda.csua). soda was supposed to go away long ago, but
no one seems to have gotten around to purging it yet.
\_ I hope no one gets around to it soon. I have told too
many people to just write to username@soda.
\_ you're an idiot.
\_ Yes, nerd. Obviously, like.
\_ Isn't calling someone a nerd on the MOTD a bit
hypocritical? |
| 1998/5/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:14032 Activity:very high |
5/1 Please remember to date your inane statements. Thank you. Just because you disagree with issues on motd doesn't mean you have the right to wipe it out. Berkeley thrives on diversity, and if you can't handle diversity, then fuck off. \_ COALITION TO TROLL THE MOTD BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY Equal rights for idiots _NOW_! \_ actually, who doesn't have the right to nuke the MOTD? unix security says it's ok... \_ If we don't regularly nuke the motd, it would be 50 pages long within a week. |
| 1998/4/19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:13983 Activity:nil 80%like:13761 |
04/18 way outdated motd nuked
\_OH MY GOD! THEY KILLED THE MOTD!! YOU BASTARDS! |
| 1998/4/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13910 Activity:moderate |
4/6 I am doing a paper on women who previously used the Internet but
are now disgusted by it. Would someone please post the list
of women who have left soda due to disgust? Thanks.
\_ So they can be further bothered by some soda twits? Good idea.
\_ I'm doing a paper on people who make up bullshit topics for
worthless papers good for worthless credit towards a worthless
degree at an otherwise decent university. Can someone post the
list of people who have left soda due to worthlessness?
\_ I'm doing a paper on dumbasses who don't put their comments
below all the comments already added.
\_ Uh oh, clearly I've violated your sense of motd ethics
and proper posting methods. I'm sure this is an issue of
such great importance that you should bring up the issue
at the next meeting for a Constitutional change. You could
make a rule that _requires_ all new motd entries to follow
all previous motd entries and then we could have the new
elected position of MOTD Gh0d who would enforce this and
also make sure that all new members read the MOTD POSTING
FAQ. In case you missed it, I'm insulting you for being
an anal retentive prick.
\_ People like you should learn some manners --
They know about an unwritten rule, flout it out of
selfishness, and criticize people who support otherwise
polite and appropriate etiquette. -someone else
\_ I'm doing a apper on sheep who previously used the Internet but
are now disgusted by it. Would someone please post the list
of sheep who have left soda due to disgust? Thanks.
\_ I am doing a sheep and would like to post pictures of it.
Thanks.
\_ the sheep im doing posted pictures and Id like to get
copies. How do I do this?
\_ HAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAH <cough> <gasp> Sorry, maybe it wasn't
funny but it's late and I'm tired. |
| 1998/4/3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13894 Activity:nil |
4/2 The prospect of an empty motd.public was too terrifying to contemplate.
Rather than restore a worthless motd from last week like any number of
soda idiots might, I'm starting a new one. Please note that I've made
certain that this new and improved motd has no more content than the
last one which someone else deleted. -motd addict |
| 1998/3/24-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13855 Activity:moderate |
3/24 Obligatory monthly request for decent ISP. I'm in San Ramon.
I'd like a decent 33.6 connection. I don't care about web space,
shell access, etc. I just want clean net to Berkeley and the
rest of the world. A few bucks this way or that isn't important.
\_check out LanMinds (<DEAD>www.lanminds.com)--they're<DEAD> quite good.
(And their dialup number in San Ramon is 510-557-0601.) --icrew
LanMinds sucks!!!!!!!! took like THREE F*CKING days to get
our ISDN connection back up after that power outage last month
and when we first got our ISDN connection, we asked them what
our SPID was and they said "What's that?"
\_ You will NEVER get a clean connection to Berkeley due to Sprintnet.
Get a clue, STUPID.
\_ uh, I ftp from soda at over a hundred kb/sec. Seems pretty
clean to me. -- <DEAD>Mr.way-outside-of-berkeley.edu<DEAD>-domain
\_ But isn't it FUN to use AGGRESSIVE CAPITALIZATION and
call people STUPID, especially when you're being
ANONYMOUS???!??? I LOVE the SODA MOTD!!!!
\_ just a few bad apples set the tone for the motd.
we will nice them to death!!
\_ Be quiet rachel
\_ Hmmm.. ok, service sucks but is the net connection good
otherwise?
\_ It would be, except they're clueless idiots and ended up
actually slowing down their net connection through
incompetence.
\_ Implying that incompetence might have sped it up? -pld |
| 1998/3/18-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/StanfUrd] UID:13831 Activity:moderate |
3/18 Anyone have a working Sparc 1+ keyboard that I can have?
It's for a University machine. --PeterM
\_ The Univeristy treated me like dirt, why should I donate anything
back? Long lines, redbook, frustration, impersonal professors, you
name it. If I'm going to donate, I'd rather donate to Stanford,
where my future kids would have much more creative opportunities. -FU
\_ strong words from someone who is still using University
resources after graduating. I'll see what I can do about
garnering a keyboard for a Sparc 1+, but don't hold your
breath as surplus keyboards have a short half-life. -mel
\_ One's use of University resources has no bearing on how one
might feel after being properly abused at Cal. Should this
person be grateful for their suffering at Cal because after
wards, they have access to the soda motd?
\_ Actually, "this person" should be taken out into the
street and beaten to death for being a fucking whiner.
I enjoyed my time spent at Cal and appreciate the
education I received there. I don't feel like I was
particularly abused, exploited, or forced to suffer;
maybe "FU" was exposed to "real life" for once and
mistook it for "suffering" (and yes, I got my degree in
EECS, not holistic basketweaving, or business, or
something like that . . . )
\_ Actually, I don't mind donating to CSUA-- the only worthwhile
donation for Cal -FU
\_ Fuck you, Mel, you little greasy prick. |
| 1998/3/18-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13829 Activity:nil |
3/18 "3/17 \_ THANK YOU!!! Soda motd is my window to wisdom!!!"
\_ This is truly frightening. Taste the fear. |
| 1998/3/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13761 Activity:very high 80%like:14293 80%like:13983 |
03/04 motd nuked
\_ Awaiting the fallout...
\_ Cool! - #1 Motd Anti-Fan
\_ If you were with it, you know that you can't combine
fandom, a positive, with anti-anything, a negative.
\_ This makes absolutely no logical sense.
\_ Obviously you're not with it. End of story.
\_ Bastard [...]
\_ try again. --#2 psb fan
\_ aw, I missed it. What'd he say? -psb #1 Fan
\-yeah, what did i say? --OTPSB
\_ Bastard motherfucker smallminded bastard censor fascist pig. When
the brownshirted dictator oppressors come to your house to round
_you_ up and take you to the death camp for daring to think thoughts
that _they_ found unacceptable, don't expect me to cry for you,
bastard. Rather, I'll spit on your cold, unmarked grave.
Remember that the long slow slide toward complete erosion of our
personal freedom of expression started right here, right now, today
with the smallminded censors of the glorious soda wall.
\_ i.e. you suck? |
| 1998/2/21 [Reference/Tax, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13712 Activity:nil |
2/20 All of you people with tax questions: Are you insane? You're asking
for legal advice on the soda MOTD?!? If you take someone's advice
on the MOTD and they're wrong, and you get audited, you're *FUCKED*!
Don't be cheap. Go pay a few bucks to someone licensed and trained
in these matters. |
| 1998/1/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13594 Activity:high |
1/28 Hey! Who nuked the motd@!
\_ As if they'd tell you and as if it matters anyway.
\_ I did it.
\_ no, i did.
\_ You're both liars. It committed suicide.
\_ The motd deserved it |
| 1997/5/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:32145 Activity:nil |
5/14 According to the "OFFICIAL" motd, the T-shirts "will arrive" by
last week. Anyone have an update for us? I can't be cool without
my Spring '97 CSUA t-shirt.
\_ The shirts are ready, and they will arrive as soon as someone
drives me down to Inky Fingers, which could be as early as
Thursday, 15 May. -- The Secretary |
| 1997/5/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:32142 Activity:nil |
-- MOTD from http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu |
| 1997/1/6 [Politics/Domestic/California, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:32029 Activity:nil |
1/4 The recent devastating Flood is the God's way to punish us for
passing Proposition 215.
\_ Um, actually, the rain was my fault. My weather maker
experienced a power surge while in the monsoon testing
mode. Sorry about that, won't happen again. - scotsman
\_ Stupid motd entries are God's way to punish us for not having
stricter entrance requirements for UC Berkeley. -JOhn
\_ Oh boy somebody has a direct line to God. Ask him/her if we are
in for anymore disaters.
\_ Oops, I don't think it was wise of me to taunt him. I am now
a proud owner of a bong with a broken carb that's going
to cost me big time to replace. So beware of any taunting
\_ Yes. -The High Almighty
\_ Excuse me sir, it's a collect call from God, he says there
should be more intelligence at Berkeley
\_ Didn't this say prop 209 yesterday?
\_ No, it's always said that. Smokers in the State are trying
to fool you!
\_ For the record, it was 209. Who gives a shit about 212?
\_ I originally put 209 (CCRI) there but some dumbass changed
it. You should not change someone's words just because you
can't handle them.
\_ You should not expect an entry in a world writable file
to remain 2. |
| 1996/10/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31919 Activity:nil 52%like:31923 |
10/3 Jobs belong in /usr/local/csua/jobs duuuudes. HotWired has a
bunch there too :-) -ausman
\_ You too can become the tool of the so called new media.
\_ Easy to say while going to school and getting finanial aid.
You have a better job that pays your rent and lets you live
reasonably well in the real world? Let us know about the job
\_ As a matter of fact, I do have a better job that pays
my rent and lets me live better than reasonably well.
If you're in it for the money, HotWired isn't the place
to go.
market after you graduate and are wondering what to do with
your excessively idealistic self. A *big* thanks to _everyone_
who is posting jobs in the motd and in .../csua/jobs.
\_ This is not a path.
No wonder you're unemployed!
\_ No duh. You obviously
figured out it was shorthand
for the full path. You *did*
figure that out, right? And
no, I'm not unemployed. |
| 1996/9/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31891 Activity:nil |
9/10 Positions open at LucasArts. Look in /usr/local/csua/jobs/LucasArts
for: 3D_Tools_Programmer Games_Programmer Level_Designer. Don't
blame me for the hokiness. -mogul
(mail from nweaver to csua@csua)
Soda, for a considerable time, has maintained a hostile online
environment. I do not care to comment more on soda's "traditions",
but I have observed that the soda environment is affecting me. I have
grown increasingly hostile online, and this trend is disturbing.
Several times in the past I've tried to moderate my online behavior,
without success.
Therefore, I am terminating my soda account, removing myself
from csua@csua, and severing all other ties to the online portion of
the Computer Science Undergraduate Association. I expect these
connections will never be restored.
Nicholas C Weaver
You should not leave. I agreed that sometimes the posting on
MOTD and WALL is quite offensive. But I suggest you to take a more
proactive approach -- instead of letting the soda online environment
affect you, why don't you do something to change it?! I really think
we should stop the flamming and use of dirty language in MOTD and
WALLING! -bkong
\_ If you are not a cower, leave your name here! what a cower!
\_ Yer mom!
\_ I PARTIED WITH NICK WEAVER!!!!!
\_ I raved with Nick Weaver
\_ I listened to Nick Weaver's lab partners ask me if it would be
acceptable to throttle him. -John
\_ I broke supermagnets in Nick Weavers kitchen, with Nick Weaver- danh
\_ I reported Nick Weaver to the OSC - ikiru
\_ I went to Bondage-A-Go-Go with Nick Weaver
\_ I went goth dancing with Nick Weaver
\_ I was in 'Nam with Nick Weaver
\_ I partied with Nick Weaver in CS150.
\_ I party with nick weaver in cs150 all the time now.
\_ I made special brownies with Nick Weaver
\_ AHA!! So CSUA is the culprit! Boy, I always knew it! I admit that I
have been growing increasingly hostile online as well, especially on some
e-mail mailing lists. When I was a newbie I was really nice, and then I'm
not, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out why I changed. Little
did I realize that after every login, the motd would fly into my eyes and
burn in my brain, subconsciously, of course, so that when I would check my
mail, I would respond with such venom in order to release the negative
energies pent up by said motd. I forget how not to show the motd upon
login, sigh.. --pcjr
\_ yer _still_ a newbie, ya twit.
\_ next time i will get big gnarly dudes to mug pcjr - danh
\_ I'll do it --Mongo
\_ If this is a prank, it is a great one. I think that soda encourages every
member of the community to understand each others behavior. When you begin to
understand the inherent contradictions in the world, you become less two
dimensional and less "nice" because nice is not so clear anymore. Growing
up is a painful thing to do, but I encourage it. -ausman
\_ this message brought to you by a guy who dreams of having sex
with a search engine - danh
\_ PHUQING PHOLLOW YER OWN ADVICE PHIRST, REMO. --HAM
\_ oh Dennis, there you go again bringing class into it. -ali (or something)
I'm very happy that nick is leaving. He is an idiot and should figure out
how to change his personality and learn how to treat his friends.
\_ If you have guts, leave your login name! Don't just flame people.
Everyone's learning and it's pointless to call other people idiot
while you are learning yourself also. - ivy
\_ Nick is hardly an idiot. He is socially inept, often rude, and
sometimes annoying, but he is certainly not an idiot. As such
I think he would make a good employee, though not much of a friend.
\ i am good worker drone.
\_ good employees can talk to people, i.e. are socially adept
\_ Sheesh. No wonder Nick wants to get away from the CSUA.
With a defense like that... I like Nick a great deal,
actually. And yes, he is very smart. -brandy
\_ He may not be an idiot, but he's definitely a twink.
\_ I didn't like Nick, but I like him a lot more now that he
has made this statement. Ausman: What "nice" is seems very
clear to me. It means not insulting people constantly for
no reason. It means not doing things that can hurt other
people's feelings. Here's another vote against all the flaming.
-kanon
\_ Fuck you. -John
Comment on the whole thread: I'm sure nick is really sorry to leave
behind so many compassionate and understanding friends of his, who
never use curse words treat people with respect, and never, never
write anything mean or childish in the motd. -PeterM
I think nick found a gurl.
\_ maybe he found a guy!
\_ maybe he bought a snazzy sports car, or took up netrek or something
Nick had another choice.... he could have simply avoided reading the walls
\_ Nick had choice or choice had Nick ? Inq. minds want to know.
\_ another choice ?! Oh shit...
and only checked out the motd now and then to keep up with events in general.
There's nothing that says anyone has to be involved directly with the online
crap on a daily basis just because they have a soda account. I think Nick's
decision was way overblown. Posting to the motd was just a dramatic gesture
he knew was bound to start the sort of flame war he claims he is trying to
avoid in his own life. The whole thing is really ridiculous. The wall thing
is ridiculous. The logs are ridiculous. People trying to squish each other
over nothing all the time is ridiculous. A public motd is ridiculous.
I doubt it will happen, but the CSUA needs to think seriously about what sort
of .org it wants to be and then actually do something towards that end. The
current CSUA is extremely random and undirected. Despite what some may think,
chaos is *not* a good thing. Similarly, people who post things
in contradiction to the politburo should be squished. All citizens
of the US should carry passes at all times and their homes should
be subject to search. All files should be inspected and if the owner
cannot prove that the files are for the good of the state they should be
shot. CSUA is not a club for the enjoyment of its users, it is an
institution and should be respected and feared. The master race will
rule the world.
soda is an experimetn in anarchy. fuck off -cypherpunk
Soda is a piece of hardware and old hardware at that. Save yourself.
-- It looks like a bathouse 'cause it's tiled and green
SO-SO-SODA, S-O-D-A SODA, SO-SO-SO-SO-SODAAA --
(kane)
Soda is my personal kingdom, full of my undying slaves condemned
to server me as the eternal undead. - danh
\_ Happy happy haiku.
Blustering blow hole
snoozing with the buffalo
nonsensical pencil
"What about guns? When do we get guns?" |
| 1996/7/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31870 Activity:nil |
7/23 If you would like to see the CSUA not give away a nice new machine
that would make a *MUCH* better and *MUCH* more reliable web server
than the current very broken machine being used for these services,
mail politburo@csua and say "Don't give the new web server away!"
\_ I think the csua has plenty of machines, but
most of them are crap I wouldn't inflict on anyone. -danh
\_Or, consider actually finding out what's going on before doing
something you really don't know much about.
\_ so post the mail to http://ucb.org.csua or a /usr/local/csua
file so people CAN find out about it
\_ Better yet, attend the sunday politburo meeting.
\_ Maybe it should be announced so people know about it
(and people are much more likely to show up if you tell
them what's going to be discussed so they know it's not
just a "sit around and waste time" meeting)
\_ but all politburo meetings are a waste of time!
\_ I've been reading the Motd for years, and in all that time I've
never read anything that has pissed me off enough to waste
other peoples time by adding to the Motd. The proposed alternate
use of the computer in question is a good one, worthy of CSUA
support. If somone feels that CSUA members should not support
this position there are appropriate forums (as explained above).
Asking CSUA members to mail politburo in support of a position
without even attempting to explain it is insulting to us all.
WE ARE NOT SHEEP! -diran
\_ baaaaa
\_ And mail stoptien@asucb.org while you're at it!!!!1!!!!1!!!
WE SHALL NOT BE OPPRESSED!!1!!!
\_ I find it really weird that the CSUA wouldn't want to have such
a nice solid machine for their own use. I can throw in an extra
6 gigs of disk and have the machine at the CSUA anytime you're
ready for it. We used to use it as a file server and as a CPU
server at a different time. It should easily handle all the
ftp, DNS, www, and file serving functions of the csua. Why
is the csua trying to bite the hands that feed it? This is the
third donation from us, if you don't need this machine, then you
won't need the 4th, 5th, 6th, etc donations either, I'd guess.
Maybe its just because this is summer, but this isn't the sort
of reaction I expected. (I certainly did *not* intend for this
to turn into a csua flame war, sorry about that.) -reiffin
\_ never underestimate the shortsightedness & stupidity
of the csua |
| 1994/12/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31670 Activity:nil |
12/15 Today, Eva Allen <eva@tekelec.com> wrote in article
<3cphng$b9j@getty.tekelec.com> on alt.motd:
Second, colnet should continue posting. If you don't like what
colnet posts, don't read it. There's no need to abuse the Internet
when the folks at colnet are clearly following the intent of this
newsgroup while the folks at Berkeley in general clearly are not.
Sheesh. Some people. alt.motd was _created_ by people
at Berkeley (I think I was one of them, can't remember) for
precisely the purpose of posting soda's motd to the
Net at large. These Colnet bozos are just late-coming
interlopers. --dpassage |
| 1994/12/8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31658 Activity:nil |
How about a motd-poll: == Which motd is better? A) http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU B) http://colnet.cmhnet.org == Where can you go for con-wall-sations? A) http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (telnet port 9255 or finger lwall) B) http://colnet.cmhnet.org == Who has danh? A) http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU B) http://colnet.cmhnet.org == Who has a proper name record? A) Server: http://nexus.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Address: 128.32.138.82 Non-authoritative answer: Name: http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Address: 128.32.43.52 B) Server: http://nexus.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Address: 128.32.138.82 *** No address (A) records available for http://colnet.cmhnet.org == Which is the most abused program at colnet? A) fortune | pnews B) gcc == Which is the most abused program at soda? A) wallall B) sed == ? A) psb B) !psb == foodP A) #t B) #f == Which is more GNAR, SHORT FOR GNARLY? A) http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU B) colnet Score: 1 point for each A answer, -1 for each B answer, 0 for each left blank. Scale: >9 : you need a remedial math course =9 : WALL_WARRIOR! WALL_WARRIOR! =8 : echo `whoami` is abusing root\! =7 : Dynix Object Oriented SHell =6 : spam? =5 : mlee has a hot and inflamed bootie =4 : try again, bchoi =3 : What? Soda's down again? =2 : coganman. `nuff said. =1 : ronk ronk ronk =0 : bitter, dour old naysayer. "Doosh" =-1 : twink =-2 : twink++ =-3 : achoi =-4 : dickyleeP =-5 : ObYerMom =-6 : Do not pass go, do not recieve fin. aid. =-7 : cs150 =-8 : finals =-9 : IS&T All scores > 5 get a free packet of SECRET SAUCE. Contact dennisc for more info. |
| 1994/11/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31653 Activity:nil |
11/11 In the past, people have requested, in the motd, a listing
of the CSUA machines, with descriptions; soon after a machine list
is posted to the motd. I was thinking it would be useful to
maintain this list in $csua/machines, so the next time somebody
asks they can be directed to this file. --agee |
| 1994/3/20 [Recreation/Dating, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31539 Activity:nil |
3/19 I am looking for a female friend. Might lead to a closer
relationship (gf???). Interested??? Post your name here.
| \_ try signing your name, and then all the Super Models on
| soda whould know who to mail.
\__ obGetALifeKChang
\_Get a clue instead.
\_You really ought to just have the guts to say:
"I'm single, would any girls on soda like to have lunch
sometime?" I mean, like anyone is going to post a response
so a cloud of soda geeks descends on her. --aaron
\_Are you serious? Someone on soda? You need help.
\_ Hey, some very nice people on soda!
\_ There are some nice people here, but the motd is NOT the place
to go looking for babes (except aaron). - seidl
\_Who cares about all the comments above? What's important is that
there won't be any kind of reply that the original poster wishes
for. If there is, I'll be a *&#^@$.
\_ I'll go out with you! The first blowjob is free. You're gong to
have to pay for the rest though. -yermom |
| 1994/3/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31528 Activity:nil 75%like:31526 |
3/9 Weapons-grade Ukrainium-235, in the form of Ukrainium Hexafluoride gas,
is available to anyone who can afford it. Please mail nukes@soda
for more details.
\_ Ukrainium Hexafluoride? Isn't that the stuff in my toothpaste? -ali
\_ This doesn't belong in the motd. please post to the
appropriate newsgroup.
\_ like alt.terroist?
\_ This doesn't belong in the motd. please post to the
appropriate newsgroup.
\_ This is soda. *Everything* belongs in the motd.
\_ one word: cesium
\_ Can I have some? My gonads have been KILLING me recently. |
| 1994/3/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31525 Activity:insanely high |
3/9 Please don't nuke the motd.
\_ Please don't put 1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
\_ Why not?
\_ Imah0zer.
\_ yes "I am a hozer" > /etc/motd.public
\_ 1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"
\_ no that would be:
yes "1000+ lines in the motd saying "I'm a hoser"" >/etc/motd.public
\_ This line won't even come close to working.
Get a clue. |
| 1994/3/10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31521 Activity:high |
3/10 New hoser on the Motd and Soda by the name Zok has arrived. Hi
Ali (he who dances in front of Evans naked), tmonroe (he who
must post to the Motd at least once a day, Aaron (he who is nice
about soda), and Heather (she who is an irc junkie).
\_ Who the hell are you, and how did you find about this?
Does that mean I need to go under the FBI's protection program???
\_ Stop deulding yourself and admit that everyone knows.
must post to the Motd at least once a day, Aaron (he who is nice
about soda), and Heather (she who is an irc junkie).
\_ Hmmm....methinks that jsl may actually be posting here!
But this is only an unconfirmed report... -- tmonroe |
| 1994/3/6-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:31504 Activity:insanely high |
3/5 NAMBLA now has an entire copy of the SUN service manuals. Big CSUA
points to boss and retnuh for helping me copy them. -eric
\ What's NAMBLA?
\_ Uh, do we have any suns???
\_ How could you not know that weve got several suns in the office!?
\_ Because they look like scrap parts. Do I have account on them?
\_ what a typical CSUA
h0zer attitude!
Quick Clues for the Clueless:
1) This is the public motd. Everything in it is suspect, including
this statement.
2) if anyone tells you to use the "chsh" or "rm" command make sure
you know what the command does first.
3) Type "man chsh". This will show the MANual entry. For that
matter, use the man command before asking stupid questions.
People on soda tend to flame stupid questions.
4) There is no such thing as a stupid question.
5) There is only Zuul.
6) This whole thing will probably be deleted/flamed
within 5 minutes. This is typical.
7) That is all. You will be tested.
8) ARGH! not another test!
9) Go back and read number one.
\_ you forgot to tell them what "yer mom" is
\_ I got yermom right here pal
\_ you also forgot about cows.
\_you hypocrites, does your mother know where you are?
\_ go away kchang |
| 1993/12/12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31445 Activity:nil |
This motd, from http://soda.berkeley.edu, is fairly old, but, like fine whisky, a motd must be aged before it can be posted. And whoever asserted that he was too sexy for my cat is so far off from reality, unreality, surreality, subreality, etc, that he had better hope he never even contemplates meeting my cat, who is currently hanging out in a gay sushi bar in R_______k. e ---- Welcome to the CSUA Message of the Day |
| 1993/11/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31432 Activity:nil |
11/17 NAFTA wins! It would be nice if the Bears could do the same Saturday.
\_ It ain't over till the senate fillibuster ends!
\_ Who are they playing?
\_ The Stanford Cauliflowers.
\_ Are you talking about Cal? GOOD LUCK!!!
\_ What time is the bonfire at the Greek Theatre on Friday? -sky
\_ How long has it been since the Bears won? 10 years???
\-1986 was last win, if memory serves. --psb
\_ wasn't that your sophomore year?
\-no.
\_ It was his Junior year.
\_ His 1st year at Cal. Don't remember
whether he was a "true" freshman.
psb:you know you've arrived when you are a motd thread.-\
\_ Didn't we tie once around 1990?
\-yes, but not what the question asked.
\_ we were robbed. -karlb
\_ But how long til Ross Perot's ego comes off the injured list?
\_ Right after I come off yer mom.
\_ Watch it, you might get sucked in
\_ ewww |
| 1993/10/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31412 Activity:nil |
10/32 Generic MOTD post |
| 1993/8/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31387 Activity:nil |
8/28 Will there be any UNIX session for beginner and advance people
like previous semester? When and where will be?
\_ Most likely. It's not scheduled yet. When it is scheduled,
it will be in the motd.
\- Cool. Another example of CSUA ineptdness. Has root
messed up anything new toady?
\_ No, it won't happen. You idiots don't deserve the effort.
\- Another brilliant example of soda-user-stupidity.
No wonder the CSUA, OCF, & XCF are all haivng problems
trying to find enough people willing to put up with
this crap and get help seessions put on. Get up there
and help or shut up. The politburo is not the CSUA,
all of us are. Please come back when you get a clue.
\- The CSUA politburo forms are elected representitives,
the people that we elect to take care of the
activities of the ourganization. Thus, it is
their fault that the help sesssions are not
ourganized. If they had been efficient enough
to actually ask HELP, then you're argument would
be valid, if I was not helping, but they did not,
so you are not.
\- And please note that only now afte rI have
made fools of them does the politburo ask for
aids. Who are these people we elected?
\_ actually, most of them were appointed after
prior hozers resigned. Got a problem, run at
the next election. CSUA's got a longstanding
tradition of whining and whining, but when
given the opportunity of doing something about
it, silence... |
| 1993/6/15-17 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:31358 Activity:high 50%like:31337 |
6/15 The first CSUA Bike Ride be this Saturday, 6/19, leaving Evans
at 10:00 AM. Mail tom@soda if you want more information, and
stop valspeaking the damn MOTD, it stopped being amusing for most
of us around the time we reached puberty. |
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