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2004/5/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:30339 Activity:insanely high
5/21    For those not subscribed to http://ucb.org.csua:

        From: jvarga@csua.berkeley.edu (Jeffrey Varga)
        Subject: CSUA T-Shirts are in!

        Yes, CSUA T-Shirts are now officially in!

        If you sent me an email requesting to reserve one, I most likely
        emailed you individually.  If I did not email you back, I have not
        reserved one for you and your email has been eaten!

        For everyone else, buy your vintige CSUA cheap knockoff T-Shirts for
        the low-low price of only $12.  Buy now, and for only $0.25 you can
        get fruity crack!

        Yay!

        jvarga [has gone nuts from finals]

        http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~jvarga/images/CSUA-Final---Front.png
        http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~jvarga/images/CSUA-Final---Back.png
        \_ Question: is there any reason the CSUA doesn't have a cafepress
           store for these t-shirts?  I'd be interested in one except I'm an
           alumnus and nowhere near Berkeley.
           \_ cafepress doesn't offer black t-shirts, for one thing.
              \_ RACIST!
              \_ RAPIST!
                 \_ what?
        \_ whatever happened to the price list design shirt that was going
           to be on cafepress?
        \_ Me too.  Is there a way to buy one if I live 2000 miles away?
2004/5/12-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Industry/Jobs] UID:30184 Activity:nil 57%like:30190
5/12    Snapfish is hiring a mobile architect. See the posting in
        /csua/pub/jobs/Snapfish.mobile.architect for more details.
        -- ajani
2004/5/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:30158 Activity:nil
5/11    /var is full
-rw-rw----  1 georgy         mail    28638578 May 11 10:56 georgy
-rw-rw----  1 njh            mail    23594891 May 11 11:08 njh
-rw-------  1 vlin           mail    20938590 May 11 09:54 vlin
-rw-------  1 danberry       mail    20881048 May 11 12:10 danberry
-rw-------  1 ericwo         mail    20872793 May 11 08:01 ericwo
-rw-------  1 milesm         mail    20487765 May 11 12:35 milesm
-rw-------  1 philb          mail    20225961 May 11 12:38 philb
-rw-r--r--  1 nivra          csua    19247689 Mar 12 12:29 nivra
-rw-rw----  1 shieh          mail    18759181 May 11 12:29 shieh
-rw-rw----  1 marc           mail    18391040 May 11 11:31 marc
-rw-rw----  1 alanc          mail    18370337 May 11 11:05 alanc
-rw-------  1 conrad         mail    18259689 May 11 11:49 conrad
-rw-------  1 dizzy          mail    18153447 May 11 12:34 dizzy
-rw-rw----  1 pad            mail    18120443 May 11 12:31 pad
-rw-------  1 davecw         mail    17915799 May 11 11:49 davecw
-rw-------  1 mh             mail    17686229 May 11 12:38 mh
-rw-rw----  1 deschan        mail    17571738 May 11 11:42 deschan
-rw-rw----  1 katster        mail    17276620 May 11 12:34 katster
-rw-------  1 edmund         mail    17260314 May 11 12:26 edmund
-rw-------  1 phoy           mail    17235821 May 11 11:13 phoy
-rw-------  1 ccheng         csua    17120934 May 11 12:04 ccheng
-rw-rw----  1 muchandr       mail    17104892 Jul 15  2003 muchandr
-rw-rw----  1 adam           mail    17063887 May 11 12:36 adam
-rw-------  1 jenwong        mail    17063722 May 11 12:22 jenwong
-rw-------  1 blojo          mail    17044386 May 11 11:43 blojo
-rw-------  1 minhn          mail    17022525 May 11 11:51 minhn
-rw-------  1 duyphun        mail    17006566 May 11 12:39 duyphun
-rw-rw----  1 klee           mail    16984332 May 11 11:58 klee
-rw-------  1 karthik        csua    16949183 May 11 12:36 karthik
-rw-------  1 agee           csua    16948803 May 11 12:10 agee
        \_ How do these happen when everyone has only a 15MB quota on
           /var/mail?
           \_ Some people are 'special' and get to take the short bus.
2004/5/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:30078 Activity:kinda low
5/7     croned motd: squishable? gray area esp. after the paolo incident
        croned wall: squishable? like croned "obFirst", is that squishable?
2004/5/6-9 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:30056 Activity:nil
5/6     Looking for UNIX System Programmer, Python and Java proficiency
        is highly desirable.  Also looking for an Oracle expert who
        also knows Java and Python:    -jeffwong
        /csua/pub/jobs/SavageBeast/sysprog.txt
        /csua/pub/jobs/SavageBeast/OracleDBA.txt
        Located in sunny downtown Oakland near BART.
2004/5/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:30023 Activity:nil
5/5     http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&oi=defmore&q=define:alumni
        99% of the web dictionaries say:
        "alumni: People who have graduated from a university, school, or
         college."
        "People who have graduated from a college."
        "The term used to refer to those that have graduated at a specific
         College."
        "Alumni are graduates of the University."
        "People who have graduated from a school."
        "Graduates of a university, school, training center or
         training program. "
        "An initiated member(s) of a fraternity or sorority who has graduated
         and has left the chapter in good standing. "
        I'm sorry, but there are people here who should not be on soda,
        regardless of the donations/help/etc they give us. We're whoring
        ourselves and breaking our principles.
        \_ Since when has the CSUA had principles?  Really, by school
           rules even allumni shouldn't have accounts.  I mean, really,
           look at the motd.  Can you say "Ol' Boy's club?"
           \_ Wrong, the school allows accounts for alumni. Where do you
              get the impression that they do not?
2004/5/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:29995 Activity:very high
5/4     /csua/tmp has about 2.8 GB used in publicly readable directories.
        About 2.3 GB is random stuff from individual users.  The top 20 files
        in /csua/tmp are a total of 800MB and the most recent is 3 months old.
        Please clean out your old files.  --anonymous but trying to be polite
        \_ fyi, /csua/tmp/hozers has a list of directories sorted by size
        \_ Wow, I had no idea we had so much world readable crap on soda!
        \_ If you have any cool files in /csua/tmp please post the filename
           and a brief description here.
           \_ If you don't, root will delete your files in 24 hours.
              (Ok, not really, but I wish root would.  :P  )
            * Sims.mpg are virtual creatures evolved to moved around in
              different environs (water, on land, etc.)
           \_ crabvspipe1.mpg is an unlucky crab which gets sucked through a
              tiny hole in a pipe due to a huge pressure difference.
           \_ moab_munifest.avi is some dumb bicycling thing.
              \_ clearly you didn't watch it.  -tom
              \_ Wait for it...Wait for it...RIIIIIIIIIIIII-
                 \_ DELETE FILE!
                    \_ Don't you mean BALEEATED?!
           \_ theplay_long.ram is the highest quality clip I've seen.
              (thanks tom!)
        \_ any good porn? -hornyguy
           \_ Heavens I hope not.  The CSUA has had enough pornishment.
           \_ tranthra.avi-- dorm+hooker porn.  Not good porn.
              \_ So when is William "Hung" going to film one of these?
              \_ Ok root, I don't think anyone can argue if you delete
                 that.  (Not to mention it's a year old)
                 \_ It's a classic!
              \_ is this a ucb dude?
                 \_ yes. it takes place in the units.
              \_ Is this the one where some kid take a hooker with
                 flat breasts into his dorm room while his computer
                 camera on and they have some kind of argument about
                 why the computer needs to be on?
                 \_ Does that mean there's no actual sex in it?
                    \_ There's sex.  It's just not well-filmed or erotic.
           \_ It's a hilarious video. Not erotic but definitely humorous.
2004/5/3-4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:29960 Activity:insanely high
5/3     Does anyone have a link to a picture of this year's csua t-shirt
        design?
        \_ Yes.
        \_ http://soda.berkeley.edu/~jvarga/images
           one of those
2004/4/26-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13393 Activity:nil
4/26    InterScan jobs at GlobalVR.  see /csua/pub/jobs/GlobalVR
2004/4/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:13338 Activity:nil
4/22    Greetings CHE GUEVARA, I heard you might be interested in either
        purchasing a new BERKELEY CA home, or a Refi at 333 SODA HALL 1776.
        Johnson and Robinson Services can be a cordially free help to you.
        -- Sylvia Hosking <sylviahosking@cheerfulassuagement.com>
2004/4/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13317 Activity:nil
4/21    To whoever wanted the sound bite of Ice-T talking about the "down low"
        a couple of weeks ago on L&O:SVU: /csua/tmp/down_low.mp3 and
        /csua/tmp/down_low_2.mp3
2004/4/14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:13185 Activity:nil
4/14    Only out of curiosity, was the CSUA log book ever found?  -John
        \_ Yes.
2004/4/13-14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13181 Activity:kinda low 50%like:13150
4/12    \_ um, whatever happened to the Soda alumni donation thing? My
           guess is that most of them got cheap and paid... ZELO DOLLAH!!!
           \_ I think what happened is that the students got picky. The
              recent thread where it was said CSUA needed 40 terabytes of
              disk, an LTO2 tape silo, and 14 3.6 GHz CPUs (or something
              almost as ridiculous) turned me off.
              \_ amen, brother.
              \_ me too.  current offers of alum donations that are being
                 sniffed at and turned away as useless crap are way way better
                 than what was available for real class work, in the labs, or
                 previous  incarnations of soda when we were students.  you
                 don't need hundreds of top end cpus, peta bytes of storage
                 and 10 gigabit switches to run a student login, motd, wall,
                 and smtp/imap/pop box.  if there weren't so many snotty
                 greedy unappreciative brats here there'd be more alum help.
                 \_ while we'd like what you've listed above, as i've said
                    here before, we'll take whatever we can get that is better
                    then what we've got. erikk
           \_ Hey asswipe, I gave $500 last time the CSUA passed the hat
              and would do it again, if the Politburo would get its stuff
              together and make a proposal. -alumnus
              \_ Curious, did anyone even thank you?  I got zippo thanks for
                 my last donation.  -never again alum
                 \_ well, i can't do much about the past, except to thank
                    you and everyone else who has donated to the csua.
                    ideally, we'd have a well run donations system. but
                    such a system takes time and we can't seem to scrape
                    up enough of that to handle something like the faculty
                    retreat as well as i would like to. i know its a tired
                    excuse, but its the truth. erikk
                 \_ No, but I would still give again.
        \_ where can we get a list of the donation record? I'd like to
           see something similar to opera where there's a sheet of top
           X million $ donations, followed by Y million $ donations, etc for
           building/funding the opera house.
           \_ Top donor gets their name stenciled onto the CSUA bat in gold
              letters.  Second highest doner gets their name spelled out in
              slices of pepperoni on the next pizza given away at a General
              Meeting.
              \_ Third prize is, you're fired.
        \_ I contacted the VP who posted to the motd, and asked him to keep
           me updated on when they had specified a plan (via the motd and
           email), and I'd donate at that point.  Haven't heard back yet...
                \_ if you're not Donald Trump, they don't want to hear from ya
                \- Just out of curiosity, why does the CSUA need money?
                   How much do you get from EJC, ASUC, CS dept?
                      --psb, former chief of CSUA money laundering operation
2004/4/12-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:13150 Activity:high 50%like:13181
4/12    So what happened to soda? I see nothing in Official.
        \_ yeah, wha'appened?
        \_ I heard soda had a power outage --scotsman
           \_ Campuswide power outage, haas isn't even back yet. - pst
              \_ it wasn't campuswide. at least some parts of south side
                 had power the whole time.
              \_ That's why I couldn't get to the main http://www.berkeley.edu
                 page either.
        \_ What type of machine is soda now? Does it have a UPS?
           \_ http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/computing/hardware/soda-mark-vi.html
              and no. - pst
           \_ A UPS that could last the 2 minutes it would take to do a clean
              shutdown and send an automated message to all logged on users
              about it might cost as much as $75.
              \_ Genuinely curious: how do you determine how long a UPS will
                 support a machine off the grid?
                 \_ A UPS should have a rating of AH (amp-hours) or WH (watt-
                    hours).  Also, mAH are milli-amp-hours.  1000mAH = 1AH.
                    1 Amp-hour at 120V = 120 Watt-hours.  If your
                    whole system is drawing 500 watts, it will stay up for 1
                    hour for every 500 watt-hours your battery has.
                    Oh, also, the VA (volt-amp) rating tells you the maximum
                    amount of power you can draw.
                    Of course, having soda stay up doesn't help much when all
                    the routers go down.
                    \_ this is why you use apmd, and only get enough battery
                       to shut soda down safely.  As was said above, it's cheap
                       and effective. --scotsman
                    \_ The routers aren't on UPS?!
                       \_ that would cost another $49.95 per router to survive
                          through the length of most power outages.
                          \_ I think your number is a bit low.  Routers draw
                             a LOT.  Generally a good deal more than any
                             tower case.
                             \_ It all depends on the size of the router.
                                My router at home is 20W, tops.
                                \_ Hrm.  Last I checked, we were talking about
                                   SODA.  Useless...
        \_ um, whatever happened to the Soda alumni donation thing? My
           guess is that most of them got cheap and paid... ZELO DOLLAH!!!
           \_ I think what happened is that the students got picky. The
              recent thread where it was said CSUA needed 40 terabytes of
              disk, an LTO2 tape silo, and 14 3.6 GHz CPUs (or something
              almost as ridiculous) turned me off.
              \_ amen, brother.
              \_ me too.  current offers of alum donations that are being
                 sniffed at and turned away as useless crap are way way better
                 than what was available for real class work, in the labs, or
                 previous  incarnations of soda when we were students.  you
                 don't need hundreds of top end cpus, peta bytes of storage
                 and 10 gigabit switches to run a student login, motd, wall,
                 and smtp/imap/pop box.  if there weren't so many snotty
                 greedy unappreciative brats here there'd be more alum help.
           \_ Hey asswipe, I gave $500 last time the CSUA passed the hat
              and would do it again, if the Politburo would get its stuff
              together and make a proposal. -alumnus
              \_ Curious, did anyone even thank you?  I got zippo thanks for
                 my last donation.  -never again alum
                 \_ No, but I would still give again.
                \_ dude, please give me $500. I'm poor and starving and
                   I eat cup-o-noodle every other day just to save money.
                   And Westwood rent is a rip-off       -ucla cs student
                   \_ Weren't you just bragging about all the 19 y.o.
                      hardbody LA chixs you were nailing? Don't expect
                      any sympathy from me.
                      \_ You'd think that an enterprising young ucla cs
                         student would have recorded his exploits and sold
                         access on his website.
                         \_ Yeah! uclacsstudent #1 fan
        \_ where can we get a list of the donation record? I'd like to
           see something similar to opera where there's a sheet of top
           X million $ donations, followed by Y million $ donations, etc for
           building/funding the opera house.
           \_ Top donor gets their name stenciled onto the CSUA bat in gold
              letters.  Second highest doner gets their name spelled out in
              slices of pepperoni on the next pizza given away at a General
              Meeting.
2004/4/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:12979 Activity:nil
4/1     Today is the unofficial CSUA Twink Day. List your favorite twinks
        and tell us why you like/dislike them:
        achoi/choice:
        \_ nice guy, smart, and contributed to csua /bin
        cmlee:
        \_ posts clueless stuff
        kchang:
        \_ asian immigrant lila aaron psb!
        tom: ...
        \_ "you're dumb because you disagree with me"
2004/3/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:12824 Activity:nil
3/23    Is it me, or soda crashes quite often lately?
        \_ soda crashes quite often lately.
2004/3/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:12630 Activity:nil
it was the dawn of the third decade of the CSUA, ten years after the XCF War.
The Server-Talk Project was a dream given form.  Its goal: to prevent another
disk-space war by creating a place where students and alumni could work out
their differences peacefully. It's a port of wall, /home away from /home for
diplomats, hustlers, entrepeneurs, and wanderers.  Files and programs stored
in two million, five hundred thousand sectors of spinning metal, all alone
in the machine room. It can be a dangerous place, but it's our last, best
hope for peace. This is the story of the last of the soda workstations.  The
year is 1997. The name of the place is Soda Mark V.
        \_ Soda was run off of workstations?  Any hoary old guys want to tell
           other stories?
           \_ at one time the entire computing power of the csua wouldn't
              have been a match for a modern cell phone or pda.
              \_ at one time the csua didn't even have a machine.  what's
                 your point?
        \_ the war with xcf didn't end in 1987.
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11/23   

2004/3/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:12615 Activity:very high
3/10    How is soda data backed up?
        \_ I hope you don't keep anything here that you don't have your own
           copy of somewhere else.  Unless you don't care about it.
        \_ it used to be mirrored to a disk array in another room in soda,
           using rsync.  However, I can't get to my backup, so I don't know
           if it is actually working.
2004/3/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:29938 Activity:high
4/3     What is going on here?  Is csua under some major hack?  I keep getting
        some email from noreply@Berkeley.EDU with subject as email disabling..
        email utilization, etc.
        \_ Virus. Sigh.
2004/2/28-29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:29838 Activity:moderate 75%like:29835 66%like:30154 85%like:10560
2/26    No, really... /var/mail is getting full:
        -rw-rw----  1 njh            mail    24023725 Feb 26 17:18 njh
        -rw-rw----  1 georgy         mail    22633905 Feb 26 17:11 georgy
        -rw-------  1 vlin           mail    20938590 Feb 26 15:19 vlin
        -rw-------  1 uctt           mail    20938475 Feb 26 14:28 uctt
        -rw-------  1 leec           mail    20921676 Feb 26 16:17 leec
        -rw-------  1 danberry       mail    20881048 Feb 26 16:18 danberry
        -rw-------  1 ericwo         mail    20872793 Feb 26 10:55 ericwo
        -rw-rw----  1 isabelle       mail    20446008 Feb 26 11:41 isabelle
        -rw-r--r--  1 nivra          csua    19251192 Feb 23 12:36 nivra
        -rw-rw----  1 marc           mail    18391040 Feb 26 17:20 marc
        \_ I ran for governor and sold net.panties so I don't have to
           adhere to your mortal limits!
        \_ two of those accounts are sorry'd.  can they still retrieve email?
           how are they supposed to fix their mess?
           \_ come crawling back to the politburo and grovel a bit but then
              they'd get sorried again for being over quota on their mailboxes.
              \_ how are they even to know they're supposed to come grovelling
                 back?
                \_ By reading the motd?  It's available via finger.
                   \_ doesn't matter.  they're over quota so theyd just be
                      sorried again.  maybe if we sent them mail to their
                      sorried accounts asking them to cleanup their spools
                      *before* they come crawling to the politburo?
2004/2/26-29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:12422 Activity:low
2/26    No, really... /var/mail is getting full:
-rw-rw----  1 njh            mail    24023725 Feb 26 17:18 njh
-rw-rw----  1 georgy         mail    22633905 Feb 26 17:11 georgy
-rw-------  1 vlin           mail    20938590 Feb 26 15:19 vlin
-rw-------  1 uctt           mail    20938475 Feb 26 14:28 uctt
-rw-------  1 leec           mail    20921676 Feb 26 16:17 leec
-rw-------  1 danberry       mail    20881048 Feb 26 16:18 danberry
-rw-------  1 ericwo         mail    20872793 Feb 26 10:55 ericwo
-rw-rw----  1 isabelle       mail    20446008 Feb 26 11:41 isabelle
-rw-r--r--  1 nivra          csua    19251192 Feb 23 12:36 nivra
-rw-rw----  1 marc           mail    18391040 Feb 26 17:20 marc
        Why isn't there a quota on this partition?
        \_ I ran for governor and sold net.panties so I don't have to
           adhere to your mortal limits!
        \_ two of those accounts are sorry'd.  can they still retrieve email?
           how are they supposed to fix their mess?
           \_ come crawling back to the politburo and grovel a bit but then
              they'd get sorried again for being over quota on their mailboxes.
              \_ how are they even to know they're supposed to come grovelling
                 back?
                \_ By reading the motd?  It's available via finger.
        \_ I don't know about you, but my /var/mail quota is 15 MB, hard 20 MB.
           \_ I guess if you're cool and know the right people and maybe run
              for CA governor as a joke candidate you get more space.
                \_ I think selling ladies underwear with your name on it
                   should count towards the secret-csua-life-point-that-gives-
                   you-more-mail-quota.  No comment on the other evil-doers,
                   though.  -John
2004/2/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/Companies/Yahoo] UID:12406 Activity:very high
2/24    Is there a way to check your CSUA account with Yahoo or Hotmail?
        When I try to connect using Yahoo it says "csua.berkeley.edu
        unexpectedly terminated the connection. Please try again."
        \_ So you put your csua password into some idiotic yahoo/hotmail form
           in your browser??
           \_ Not sure about the 'idiotic' part, but yeah, you have to
              enter your password otherwise Yahoo can't check the e-mail.
              \_ but soda requires an encrypted connection.  somehow I doubt
                 Yahoo sends passwords in anything other than plaintext.  good
                 job.
                 \_ which is why yahoo can't get it.
                 \_ Is that why it's not working?  Is there a different
        \_ .forward
           \_ Yes.  In your .forward file, you put your csua username on the
              first line and your yahoo email on the second line.  You can
              then save a copy of your email on csua.
              \_ not quite.  you just made a mail loop.
                    CSUA SMTP address that will allow me to check the
                    e-mail?
        \_ .forward
           \_ But then I don't retain the mail at CSUA, I won't the mail
              at both Yahoo and CSUA.
              then save a copy of your email on csua.
        \_ Yahoo uses POP or IMAP to check your email.
2004/2/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:29828 Activity:nil
2/23    None of the current politburo officers post motd regularly (or at
        least don't use their names). Has csua lost its tradition?
        \_ Current politburo officers have got too many other important
           things to do than have pointless arguments in an outdated,
           unwieldly online discussion format.  Wait til they graduate
           and get jobs they can't stand, then we'll talk.
           \_ Translation: they're too young and naive to see the one useful
              aspect of their club.
              \_ *laugh* *chortle* *sputter* Yeah, anyway, I guess they never
                 have stuff like classes or homework or projects to waste
                 time on.
2004/2/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:12359 Activity:nil
2/23    How does one reinstate his sorried account? Just go to the CSUA
        office?
        \_ > /csua/adm/bin/sorry
      Your account has been turned off by the soda administration.  No specific
      information has been recorded on the reason for this deactivation.  If
      you genuininely do not know why your account has been deactivated, and
      would like additional information, send mail to root@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU.
        \_ can't answer your question but it would be really cool to somehow
           grep /etc/passwd or something and generate a chronological list
           of the squishage starting from 1982.
           \_ Why do people get sorried?  Is it just for hozering, or does
              long-term inactivity cause it too?
              \_ At times, passwd sniffer/crackers are found on machines around
                 campus.  If a person's login here shows up in those crackers'
                 logs, we sorry the account.  Sorry'ing for hoserish stuff is
                 pretty rare.  For those with access, there's a sorry log going
                 back to like 1991 or so.  --scotsman
                 \_ where is it located? Can you post it on motd?
                    \_ See the "those with access"?  No.
2004/1/23-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:11903 Activity:nil
1/23    What's the best weekend parking near U.C. Berkeley?  How much will
        it cost?  Daytime hours, let's say 10am to 8pm.
        \_ Depending on where you want to park, possibly free.
           \_ how?  But do I have to drive 45 minutes to look for parking?
              \_ Once again, be more specific.  Near Soda?  Near Haas pavilion?
                 If it's near Soda, I'd find free parking on Ridge or LeConte
                 streets within a couple blocks.  Of course, if there's an event
                 at The Greek, that probably won't work.
                 \_ eh, i think you need a permit to park on those streets.
                    there are parking meters in front of soda tho.
                    \_ Except near Soda you don't need a permit or to feed a
                       meter to park on the weekends.  -- lived on ridge rd.
                    \_ I am pretty sure that you can park anywhere in Berkeley
                       without a permit on weekends now. Excpet meters, that
                       you have to feed on Saturdays.
                 \_ near Sproul.  But if it's cheaper near Soda, that's okay
                    too.
                    \_ Ouch.  Parking will be a bitch all the time around there.
                       I'd just pay for a university lot.  Don't remember the
                       price but it was not insane.
2004/1/10-15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:11736 Activity:low
1/9     Work for http://HOTorNOT.com, cuz we don't suck. Well, actually, we probably
        do, but at least we know it. see /csua/pub/jobs/HOTorNOT
        \_ What is the geographic location of this job? The post and the
           website give no indication.
           \_ Positions available at junior high schools around the country.
        \_ do you really think that "find the hidden message" crap says
           anything about your applicants?
           \_ we've already seen that one anyway. come up with something new.
           \_ Downtown Berkeley.
           \_ Yes, for one thing, it says they have read the posting.  It
              means that they cared enough about applying to figure out the
              (easy) trick.  This is an easy and effective way to keep from
              getting a bunch of resumes from "shotguners".  And if it turns
              off hate-filled, judgemental h0zers such as yourself, that is
              probably a big plus too. -phuqm
        \_ fire whoever came up with the idea for being uncreative. i'm pretty
           sure someone else did that a few months ago, same word as well.
           \_ I totally don't get it. Does that mean I couldn't work
              there? Would I want to work for a place that does this?
              \_ it's silly, and not original at all. just look at the first
                 letters of each paragraph.
        \_ Real nice of y'all to berate those who might be doing some Sodans
           a favor by posting a job listing. God forbid you're ever unemployed.
        \_ d00d, it's hotornot - if you're going to find a hidden word in
           the job posting for any place you work for that you could still
           tell yermom honestly about, shouldn't this be it?
        \_ Rosebud!
          \_ bingo!!
2003/11/20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW] UID:11155 Activity:nil
11/19   I've never seen any of his links posted here, so...
        What does the csua think of Joel (as in "On Software")?
        \_ Seems like any moderately competent mentor.
2003/11/19 [Computer, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:11128 Activity:nil
11/17   Old but cool: /csua/tmp/Sims.mpg
        (evolved virtual creatures in various environments)
2003/11/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:11117 Activity:nil
11/17   A friend of mine wants me to ask if there are aany CNET employees on
        soda. -- ulysses
        \_ cnet still has employees? I thought they laid them all off.
        \_ How about ex-employees?  How about ex-employees who still talk to
           the going-to-turn-off-the-lights guy who is still there?  Post what
           you want to know.
        \_ Yes, there are some ex-C|net employees on Soda, I'm one.
        \_ I used to work there and still talk to people who do. I hear it's
           not a good place to work now. -chrchan
2003/11/10-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:11006 Activity:nil
11/10   Does soda keep backups?  I accidentally overwrote a file and I'd
        like to get the version from about one week ago.  Does anyone know
        how to do this on soda?  Thanks.
        \_ Yeah, soda keeps backups on our work and home machines.  Each
           person's homedir is kept somewhere else, just in case, ya know?
        \_ I think the backups are made nightly at about 2am. mail root.
        \_ you fucking lose.
        \_ Right now, Soda only makes disk mirrors at 5am.  Yes, this sucks.
           We (root) are working on a backup server that will provide actual
           backups for weeks.  The hardware has been purchased, and I am
           in the process of installing OS.  So, unfortunatly, you lose
           this time, but in about a week or two, you win big time.
           \_ the rest of us win in 2 weeks.  this guy lost big time.
2003/10/31 [Computer/SW/SpamAssassin, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10889 Activity:nil
10/31   I remember the days when soda was a spam-free zone.
        \_ s/soda/the Internet/
        \_ I remember when there wasn't a soda or an internet.  We still had
           spam though.
2003/10/27-30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10809 Activity:nil
10/27   Extracted from below: /csua/tmp/ifile_tutorial
2003/10/21-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/OtherSchools] UID:10712 Activity:nil
10/20   UCB IS&T is hiring! /csua/pub/jobs/UCB-IST (Originally posted to
        BayLISA jobs mailing list.)
        \_ will I have to deal with tom holub?
           \_ if you don't want to deal with me, you'll fit right in.  -tom
              \_ Nice.
              \_ I thought UC only hired people with college degrees?
                 \_ Get some new material, already.
                    \_ That material is still working nicely.  I want to know
                       how someone without a degree can feel so superior to all
                       those around him who have accomplished something which
                       he failed to accomplish and never will.  Is it just
                       false bravado to soothe his damaged ego or does he
                       really truly feel superior and if so, what is the basis
                       for those feelings?  The ant walks among giants.
                \_ did tom fart really hard in E260 12 years
                   ago next to you and you've never forgotten? get a
                   life.
                        \_ College degree is just a piece of paper.  s.jobs
2003/10/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10672 Activity:nil
10/16   I remember there were some postings here about some alumni list of
        recommended mechanics, plumbers, contractors, etc.  Can someone remind
        where to look for this list again?  Thanks.
        \_ http://parents.berkeley.edu
           \_ I followed this advice a couple weeks ago:
              http://parents.berkeley.edu/advice/household/wax.html
              and it worked perfectly.
           \_ this site is useful for Berkeley and the east bay... does anyone
              have any recommendations for a good general practice doctor
              in or around Mountain View? -!op
              \_ The Stanford CSUA, perhaps?

emacs user was here
2003/10/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10645 Activity:nil
10/16   Play games while peeing.
        http://web.media.mit.edu/~hayes/mas863/urinecontrol.html
        \_ typical idiotic useless media lab product.  if they just designed
           a loud buzzer that would sound off when some asshole pees on
           the floor, it would cost less, and actaually do something usefull.
           but, of course, if it was usefull, the media lab wouldn't care
           about it.
           \_ No stranger than etching a fly in the bottom of the urinal.
              See, some people appreciate creativity.
              \_ I just tried it. It's fun.
           \_ Dude, get over it.
        \_ While I think it's really lame technically and socially, from
           the perspective of exposure and media coverage, it is a BRILLIANT
           idea. MIT realizes that technology is only a small part of what
           make a product or a company or a school great, and they do a
           really good job reaching out to the public. I just wish that
           Berkeley could be more detail oriented and be as good as MIT.
            \_ Berkeley is above such things.  If you were concerned with the
               real world you wouldn't have attended Berkeley.  Or at least
               that's what my favorite college drop out csua member would say.
2003/10/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10639 Activity:nil
10/15   Will there be any sort of audio/video recording of the Matt Dillon
        presentation at the upcoming csua meeting?
        \_ For just one brief, brief moment I thought you might have meant
           the actor, and I was almost tempted, for the first time in
           history, to attend a CSUA meeting.
2003/10/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10558 Activity:nil
10/9    /var full.  /csua/tmp full.  Clean up yer shite!  -- crusty old alum
2003/9/29-30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10367 Activity:nil 50%like:28081
9/29    Full ROTK trailer: /csua/tmp/rotk_trailer_480x280.mov
2003/9/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10126 Activity:nil
9/9     Have you guys ever on CSUA experience some lag from time to time while
        typing in a doc, or composing an email?  It just happened to me again
        while I was typing this message, it appears to pause for a sec or two.
        Is this the result of someone on soda running some cpu intensive tasks?
        \_ This is generally from network usage at Cal.  The kids are back in
           town and firing up their gnutella clients.
        \_ Yeah I experience it all the time, it it network lag for me.
           I blame it on the file sharers at work.
2003/9/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10071 Activity:nil
9/4     Last night's debate: /csua/tmp/debate_2003_09_03.mp3
        (First 20-30 mins are Davis responding to questions)
        \_ Bad perms.
           \_ Oops.  Fixed. -emarkp
        \_ ok how is this clip more special than the others and why should
           we spend time listening to this particular clip?
           \_ Oh, just die.
           \_ It was the first debate between the candidates.  And it's the full
              2 hours.
              \_ You mean ( candidates - arnold )
2003/9/3 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10052 Activity:nil
9/4     All politburo's accounts accidentally sorried. --God
        \_ thank goodness there is a God!
2003/8/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:29496 Activity:nil
8/27    got bored dealing with virus mail. --jon /csua/bin/mw.new
        \_ what's that thing for? you people don't go in much for
           comments huh. don't think i'll hire you... (not that I can yet but)
           \_ relieving my aching tired boredom, duh. --jon
2003/7/30-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:29183 Activity:nil 80%like:29199
7/30    Return of the King teaser trailer: /csua/tmp/rotk.mov
2003/7/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:29155 Activity:nil 55%like:29093
7/22    Looking for junior java developers.   Limited job experience is a plus.
        Limited desire for good salary, limited IQ, limited education (e.g.
        community college, ITT Tech, Devry Institute) is a big big plus.
        /csua/pub/jobs/Snapfish.junior.java
        \_ then why are you posting here? in berkeley? to insult people??
            \_ u don't read the motd much, do you.
2003/7/25 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:29140 Activity:nil 71%like:29093
7/22    Looking for junior java developers.  Limited salary & IQ are pluses.
        /csua/pub/jobs/Snapfish.junior.java
        \_ limited IQ is a plus???
2003/7/22-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Industry/Jobs] UID:29104 Activity:kinda low
7/22    Looking for junior java developers.  Limited job experience is a plus.
        /csua/pub/jobs/Snapfish.junior.java
        I asked and got more info: money isn't the issue.  The reason for
        wanting a junior level person is they need someone junior enough who
        is willing to do junior level work and not quit as soon as a senior
        level job comes along.  They don't want to underemploy someone.  This
        is intended to be a good learning first/second job thing for the
        employee and a reliable, smart person to do stuff that needs to be
        done but no one else has time for right now.  They expect/hope the
        candidate will stick around long term and become senior in time.
        \_ What if you've been unemployed so long you've fallen
           from senior to junior. Like you've had a concussion. Is that OK?
           \_ You can't succeed if you don't try.  Send me a resume.  I'll
              pass on anything from any Berkeley alum but I'm not the hiring
              manager or even in that group so I can't promise a job or an
              interview.  I do promise that your resume will be read by
              someone else here (probably several someones) and won't get
              instantly trash canned unread like many companies are doing
              today.
2003/7/11 [Politics/Domestic/California, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:29008 Activity:moderate
7/10    Che,
        As of midnight, The Guevara family residence at: 333 Soda Hall
        #1776, Berkeley, Ca 94705 is Pre-Qualified for a 5.13% 30 YR Fixed.
        I have prepared these monthly payment examples for your Berkeley
        property.
        Click Here Now For a 1 Minute Quick Quote.
        Thank You,
        Belita Fidella
        American Refinance Group
        \_ Kind of her to pre-qual you Che.  Too bad you're both dead and an
           anti-capitalist.
        \_ just take the loan and run
2003/7/10-11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28995 Activity:nil
7/10    What happened to /csua/bin/thumbnail_index?  Any replacement?  Thx.
        \_ try out /csua/bin/genethumb instead - danh
2003/6/19-21 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28769 Activity:nil 53%like:28197
6/19    Websphere job in Iowa in /csua/pub/jobs. --scotsman
2003/6/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:28629 Activity:high
6/4     'What's the point of all this?  Berkeley really should be a really
        cool place to be a CS person, but it's usually not.  If you're reading
        this book, it's probably *your* responsibility to help make Berkeley a
        cooler place to be.  Even if you're just a CSUA member, or nonmember,
        and not an officer or anything.  It is important that people do stuff
        that's for more than themselves, but the Berkeley computer science
        community I have been witnessing is stuck in a deadlock of mutual
        laziness and exhaustion.' - Jon Blow, from the CSUA log book
        \_ I think the above is perhaps the single finest exposition of what
           the CSUA should be about. -dans
           \_ Your webpage is hillarious.
              \_ The way you spell hilarious is hilarious. -dans
           \_ laziness and exhaustion?
           \_ whining aimlessly while trying to look like you care about
              something unimportant or nonexistent like the "Berkeley computer
              science community"?  as soon as someone starts drooling about
              a 'community' that's a keyword trigger that tells you it's ok
              to tune out and think about something important.
              \_ Like, perhaps, expanding your pr0n archive?
                 \_ That and anything else imaginable would be more meaningful
              \_ Wow, I pity your sad, lonely, self-loathing existence -dans
                 \_ Wow, I pity your arrogant, sanctimonious, self-important
                    existance.
                 \_ Take a deep breath and repeat after me, "it's only school,
                    it's only school, it's only school".  If you need the csua
                    to have some sort of great social meaning in order to
                    bring meaning to your own life then well, nevrmind, this
                    should be self evident.  There's no such thing as the
                    "Berkeley computer science community".  Most "communities"
                    don't exist.  If they did they wouldn't require "work" to
                    keep them going.  Think about it, genius.
                    \_ You, too, have missed the point. College, as an
                       experience, should be more than a process of getting a
                       good job. In blojo's POV, the CSUA should be part of a
                       better, smarter, more inventive, more mind expanding
                       computer experience. And ALL communities require work
                       to keep them going.
           \_ The CSUA has had this problem since XCF split off from UCF and
              the proliferation of affordable computing power. Without the
              need for machine access, the CSUA falls back on a social agenda.
              And since nerds by definition aren't social, it falls apart.
              Unless, as written by Jon, you can find a core group to hold it
              together and attract other likeminded people.
              \_ I see nothing falling apart.  What's wrong with the CSUA?
                 \_ Nothing really. It's just not a great hacker group.
              \_ why shouldn't be the CSUA be a social organization?  Do you
                 know how many people got married as a result of the CSUA?
                 \_ Name all of the CSUA social events/activities. If there is
                    a strong leadership, it's fine. They can drive them. If
                    not, it all falls apart. If the CSUA can develop a core
                    place for people to do computer nerd hacking, it becomes
                    a social organization by default. The question has always
                    been what does the CSUA want to do?
                 \_ and how many marriages has BDG stopped?
                    \_ He stopped mine. One must listen and obey.
                       I repeat the daily invocation: T B T H!
                        \_ what is TBTH???
                           \_ "The B&%#h took half!"
              \_ The OCF split off from UCF?  When did this happen?  Neat
                 trick.
                 \_ Oops. Too much drinking. It has been fixed...
              \_ I don't know about you, but I joined to get another
                 e-mail address and shell account.
                 \_ nononono, it's all about the warm fuzzy feeling you get
                    when you code late into the night with other nerdlings
                    and share tales of GNUvictory over those who would keep
                    the information from being free!  it's all about the
                    Berkeley computer science community!!  Do it for the kids!
              \_ blojo never said anything about a social agenda. -dans
                 \_ You're right. But the CSUA becomes just a social club
                    when there is no centralizing computing environment where
                    likeminded nerds can hack code, talk about code hacks, and
                    create stuff for world use/domination. So many CS nerds,
                    so little code generation.
                    \_ its what the WEB used to be for for undergrads.
        \_ Remember kids.  It's only school.  However important you think the
           CSUA and your CSUA 'friends' and just about anything else in school
           seems now it won't mean shit onec you've graduated, have a job, a
           wife/husband, a mortgage, car payments, and start thinking about
           what you're going to name your kids and if you'll raise them in a
           religion or not and which one.  The CSUA is mere trivia at best.
           \_ I graduated a decade ago and the community of friends that
              I made in college is still the people that I spend time with,
              still the ones that I visit on vacation, still the ones
              that I live with and still the ones that I know will be
              there for me when I need them. I respect your choices, but
              you should not think that your way is the only way.
              \_ Did you ever leave Berkeley?  Maybe you'd be better off with
                 a more diverse group of friends.  Sounds really inbred to me.
              \_ ditto.  Most people i know/know_of are like that too.
                 Probably something about the first people you know well
                 when you are away from home, (or the first people you know
                 after you are over age?) but there is definitely somthing
                 about college-connections that seem to last.
                 \_ For many folks, it's the last time they're exposed to
                    a broad group of people.
                    \_ The CSUA represents a broad group of people?
                       \_ College.  Retake that reading comprehension course.
                          \_ College doesn't represent a broad group of
                             people.  It's 99% the 18-22 year old children
                             of the wealthy or the educated.  It's the elite
                             of society, especially at Berkeley.  We can all
                             read.  It's you that fails to comprehend.
                             \_ So where do you get your "broad group"
                                exposure?  Spend a lot of time at the
                                supermarket? --scotsman
2003/6/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28624 Activity:high
6/2     Is there a standard way to get new/improved software into /csua/bin?
        For example, it has "whothefuckis" which probably isn't too helpful,
        but stuff like motdbrowse kind of floats around ~/homes.
        \_ Mail politburo and ask to be put in group contrib, then you can
           install whatever you like.
2003/5/29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:28574 Activity:high
5/29    Why did kchang get sorried?
        \_ Lack of proper sense of humor on the part of Politburo?
        \_ (Destructive) scripts on the motd get you squished
           \_ but the same destruction done manually is ok, huh?
              \_ being a hoser in general will also get you squished
                 (hey, I didn't write the rules)
              \_ actually, this will also get you squished, see:
                 /csua/adm/doc/policies/motd
                 \_ which also claims that the motd can't be used for
                    non-University business.
        \_ Stalking.
2003/5/5-6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28337 Activity:kinda low
5/5     Too many f***ing spams from my usernet posting on csua. is there
        a way to hide my email address? I can change it but csua adds
        a damn X-mail address to my post. thanks.
        \_ create a free email account you use to post to usernet.
           \_ but I need to post from csua account... thx.
              \_ help yourself. rtfm for your news client. if there's no way
                 to turn it off, hack the source or switch news clients.
2003/4/29-8/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28253 Activity:nil
28/4/3  CSUA Elections and General Meeting 5/5/2003, 5:30pm 337 Soda.
        Catered.
2003/4/28-29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:28249 Activity:insanely high
4/27    When did you join the CSUA?  I want to get a histogram of motd users.
        Please keep it chronological.
        1984:
        1985: ..
        1986: .
        1987: ..
        1988:
        1989: .
        1991: ....
        1992: .....
        1993: ................
        1994: ..............
        1995: .............
        1996: ....
        1997: .....
        1998: ....
        1999: ....
        2000: ...
        2001:
        2002:
        2003: .
        \_ How many members join per year?  What proportion of the current
           EECS student body are CSUA members?
        \_ extended your date range back a bit for you....
           \_ you needed to extend the range more if you want to cover the
              oldest still "active" sodans.
              \_ self extend, grasshoppa!
        \_ NO WAY!  1985?  Who was here in 1985?  I thought Partha was the
           oldest CSUA member.  And didn't he come in 87?  Who are you people
           that claim to be here in 86 or 85?
           \_ Partha was here in 86.  - someone who predates psb
              \_ He acted just the same then. -other person who predates psb
                 \_ THE PSB is eternal!  All Praise!  --psb #1 Fan
                 \_ No, he was a VMS bigot then.
                    \- well in fairness, my unix exposure was limited
                       to "eunice" and some ancient sysV release --psb
        \_ you need ot create some sort of anonymous csua voting mechanism
           so that (fucker)s cant throw off yoru data.
           \- andy@soda has a decade on the nearest competition --psb
              \_ has he been using his soda account?
                 \_ finger andy
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2003/4/23-28 [Reference/BayArea, Computer/SW/Languages, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28197 Activity:nil 53%like:28769
4/23    C++/Oracle programming job located in SF:
        /csua/pub/jobs/wsa
2003/4/21-24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28180 Activity:nil 57%like:27235
4/21    Summer internship at Berkeley - /csua/pub/jobs/roc
2003/4/13-14 [Computer, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28105 Activity:moderate
4/12    Has anyone set up a csua username/password for IEEE Xplore?
        \_ Their rates aren't that bad.  Considered signing up for a
           half-year, or are you just interested in one article (in which
           case you're asking the wrong question)?
2003/4/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:28082 Activity:very high
4/10    What's the CSUA policy on cron jobs?
        \_ /csua/adm/doc/policies/processes
        \_ Any users running processes for more than 24 hours
           will be terminated.
           \_ The users or the procs?  What about all these shells that are
              open for days on end?
              \_ Can we institute a humour litmus for CSUA membership?
                 \_ "Draw a picture of yer mom"
                    \_ VP, please teminate this individual.  -"yermom"
        \_ yes. If you're friends with politburo members then you can
           do anything you want. Screw the policies. None have been truly
              have you had your ircbot unfairly terminated by w00t?
              get a fukn life.
           enforceable and it's been broken over and over again.
           \_ Um.  get yer head out of yer ass and stick it in a pig.
              have you had your ircbot unfairly terminated by w00t?  is the
              secret cabal of daves out to hose your screen session?
              get a fukn life.  They are totally enforcable, and they are
              enforced when need be.  as they get buffer hardware (thank you
              donating alumni!), the policies have become mildly outdated,
              but geez.
              \_ There is no secret cabal of daves.
                 \_ It's a secret cabal.  How would you know?
                    \_ because I'm in the secret cabal of secret cabals.
                       \_ then you'd be the last person to know.
2003/4/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:27983 Activity:high
4/3     Tea Time in Soda Hall!
        Join the CS 162 Hackers for a cup of tea this evening in soda hall.
        We'll be in and around 2nd/3rd floor soda.  email me if you have
        questions. -dans
        \_ i hope there's boba
        \_ Tea Time a success.  Fun had by all.  What's a boba?
           \_ If you have to ask, you don't know!
              \_ Indeed.
2003/3/26-27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:27861 Activity:high
3/26    UNLINK news: RFP going out this week for uclink replacement, aiming
        at clustered solution--implementation of new service, probably to be
        run by a different group, is planned for this summer.
        \_ Might we finally get a decent email hostname?  <DEAD>cal.edu<DEAD> or <DEAD>ucb.edu<DEAD>.
           C'mon, everybody, pray with me.
           \_ what's wrong with <DEAD>uclink.berkeley.edu<DEAD>?
              \_ if you have to ask...
           \_ There is zero chance we'll change our primary domain name.
              However, it is reasonably likely that we'll have top-level
              "@Berkeley.EDU" names instead of "@uclink.berkeley.edu"
              names.  "Berkeley" is a name with international recognition,
              unlike "cal" or "ucb".  -tom
              \_ Ah callous youth... No respect for the past and ucbvax.
              \_ there's no reason we can't have an MX alias point to
                 http://berkeley.edu.  I agree with the name recognition thing,
                 and that's important, but I'm sick of spelling "berkeley"
                 for people and writing out a long address on forms.
                 <DEAD>Cal.edu<DEAD> would work well in those cases, just like http://csua.org
                 does (or did) for http.
                  \_ I hadn't realized this was available as a mail
                     redirect.  Are we assured that http://csua.org will last as
                     long as the csua exists?  Is http://csua.org owned by the
                     actual csua, and the translation occuring locally?
                     (e.g. not being intercepted and forwarded by another
                     machine?)
                \_ having 2 ways of addressing the <DEAD>.berkeley.edu<DEAD>
                   domain would be stupid and lame.  people who can't
                   spell Berkeley aren't worth your time.
                   \_ it makes a lot more sense than <DEAD>uclink.berkeley.edu<DEAD>,
                      but if we ditched the uclink part I wouldn't mind
                      so much.
              \_ Ah callow youth... No respect for the past and ucbvax.
                 \_ you probably mean "callow".
                    \_ is there ever a non-callow youth?
                       \_ maybe not, but the other guy still fucked up the
                          reference.
                          \_ There. Fixed. Happy?
2003/3/5-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW] UID:27605 Activity:nil
3/5     There is a new urgent internship position at SUN available.
        Please take look at /csua/pub/jobs/SUN file.  Thanks, - Chiachi
2003/3/1-2010/9/30 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:10003 Activity:nil 54%like:10004 86%like:18853
**/**   Mail staff for -administrative- questions. For assistance, mail help.
        See also: /csua/pub/jobs & /csua/pub/housing & /csua/pub/recruiting

The uncensored messages below this line may not reflect opinions of the CSUA.
2003/2/28-3/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:27567 Activity:high
2/28    Have you guys ever experience a sudden slow down/or a pause while
        composing your email, or editing some text on CSUA via SSH?
        \_ sometimes campus net is congested, nothing you can do about it.
        \_ It's a glitch in the matrix.  It happens when they change something.
           \_ I wish I could sentence you to the Neutral Zone, you
              fucking nerd.
              \_ are you insulting someone for being a nerd by using
                 a star trek reference? wow.
              \_ I wish I could sentence you to the rape camps, you
                 fucking nerd.
                 \_ you could've just said 'prison'
                    \_ I wanted it clear exactly what I wished.
                       \_ Point taken.
                          \_ Yeah, you'll be taken' "points"
2003/2/12-7/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Recreation/Media] UID:27377 Activity:nil
2/11    I need a contractor for a few months. Can you help a brutha out?
        /csua/pub/jobs/pixar       -=Aubie
2003/2/11-7/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Industry/Jobs] UID:27365 Activity:moderate
2/10    Lyris is hiring (downtown berkeley)
        http://csua.org/u/929
        \_ Any non-senior code positions?  Also, I know someone in the CSUA
           works for Lyris, and I recall him making allusions to the Lyris
           code base being pretty gnarly.  Care to confirm or refute that?
           \_ Not for now.  Currently only senior candidates are being
              considered.  The code base has in the recent past been in
              much gnarlier states, but this has been from understaffing -
              a problem which is finally being addressed. --scotsman
           \_ no one trains interns anymore - at least not for loooow wage
2003/1/29-2/2 [Industry/Jobs, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:27235 Activity:nil 50%like:25736 57%like:28180
1/29    Undergrad research position available, /csua/pub/jobs/roc
2003/1/27-28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:27214 Activity:high
1/27    Was anyone able to generate a gpg key on soda? I tried a couple of
        times but everytime gpg starts generating key pair, it prints:
        "Not enough random bytes available.  Please do some other work to give
        the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 300 more bytes)",
        and then sits forever without doing anything. I hit Ctrl-C after
        four hours of waiting.
        \_ if it were your local machine, you could wiggle your mouse,
           but but I don't know what you could do on soda. maybe run
           find /
        \_ Soda is too predictable.
           \_ I knew you'd say that.
              \_ I knew you'd say that.
                 \_ I didn't know you'd say that!
        \_ Don't use soda. Generate the key somewhere else and scp
           it to soda.
           \_ What's the point of that? Either way, you're exposing
              your keystrokes on soda were it to be comprimised.
              The best thing to do is to generate and use your key
              on your local machine.
                \_ I ment scp the public key to soda. I would never
                   put a private encryption key on soda.
                   \_ Which pretty much confirms my suspicions of how
                      little real utility PGP has for most of us
                      who don't operate from a "local machine" except
                      at work.
                        \_ I keep my public/private key pair on my
                           laptop with a copy of my public key on
                           soda. I encrypt all my sensitive messages
                           on my laptop and then send them using
                           soda. For normal messages, I just don't
                           bother.
                           If OP is interested in a DSA key, maybe
                           it would be okay to store the key pair
                           on soda.
                           \_ no it's not okay to store ssh keys on soda unless
                              you want to accept the risk that your key (and
                              the hosts where you login with it) could become
                              compromissed.
                              \_ we're talking about PGP here, not SSH.
                                 fucking stay on fucking topic.
                                 --jon
        \_ I generate my keys by hand and transmit them using a one time pad
           over S-IPV7.
        \_ I write my keys out long-hand and leave them in the men's room
           stalls.
2003/1/18-25 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:27143 Activity:nil
01/17   Soda needs patching bad. No, it wasn't patched when it was taken down
        before, that would have made sense, and we're not here to make sense,
        we're here to make your lives hard. So don't get too used to those
        screen sessions, 'cuz I'm gonna reboot it again later tonight to
        upgrade the thing. Hopefully it won't be down much longer than it was
        yesterday. And, really, 24 hours is too much uptime anyway. - ajani
        \_ Due to unforseen complications, this won't be happening today.
           Enjoy your longer uptime. Patching will be resumed when I figure
           out all the uniquely soda complications. - ajani
2002/12/18 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26846 Activity:nil
12/17   So did the thief ever get his goods from another csua-er willing to
        self-identify as a criminal?
2002/12/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26760 Activity:nil
12/6    contract position over winter break ...  details in
        /csua/pub/jobs/Starvine   -jenn
2002/12/8-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26745 Activity:nil
12/7    if anyone's interested, there's now a /csua/pub/books sub-
        directory to post (used) cs-related (and other) books for sale in.
2002/12/6-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26734 Activity:nil
12/6    looking for a Voice UI Designer.. details in
        /csua/pub/jobs/MindSource  -shac
2002/12/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26715 Activity:kinda low
12/4    Fact: almost 13% of all soda accounts are sorried.
        \_ I'm sorry about that.
        \_ What a sorry situation!
        \_ That certainly is a sorry fact.
        \_ Sorry = turned off due to inactivity, or for bad behavior?
        \_ A whole bunch of accounts with lame passwords got sorried
           when root ran crack.
2002/11/20-2003/1/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26578 Activity:nil
11/18   Soda crashed.  Soda was rebooted.  -root
2002/11/15-16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:26552 Activity:kinda low
11/14   Is there a CSUA login and password to TransGaming's site?
        Is there a list of CSUA logins and passwords?
        \_ /etc/master.passwd
           \_ Uh, really?  Shall we run Crack on it?
        \_ [useless not-at-all clever responses purged to disuade the stupid]
        \_ Clarification: Is there a list of logins and passwords for popular
           websites (e.g., Washington Post, CNN, TransGaming, etc), not for
           \_ This would be nice if we standardized pwds.
              eg. email: subscriptions@csua (or lwall), login: csua, pwd: soda
           CSUA accounts? -OP
           \_ generally csuamotd:csuamotd or csua:csua.  Some places like the
              LATimes allows username:password or membername:password or
              whatever it is they call users.
2002/11/10-11 [Computer/SW/Mail, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26500 Activity:high
11/10   Is it possible for CSUA to automaticall forward all emails sent to
        <username>.* to username?  So like joe.amazon@csua would go to
        username@csua.
        \_ no, that would require work
           \_ Dumbass
        \_ you already have user+detail
           \_ How's that again?  Does that mean joe+*@csua will go to joe?
              \_ joe+<SMTPALLOWEDSTRING>@CSUA goes to joe@CSUA
                 \_ Do RFCs allow a plus in the user portion of address?
                    \_ Yes.
                       \_ Which one?
                          \_ RFC 822, Sec. 3.3
                             The localpart is word *(.word) (their notation),
                             according to sec. 6.1 of the same. 3.1 gives
                             word as atom or quoted-string. Atoms are
                             strings of chars except spaces, controls, and
                             special chars. None of these three categories
                             includes "+", so "+" is kept as part of the
                             atom token. The modern mail RFC, 2822, gives
                             a similar setup in its sec. 3.2.4, where atom
                             is explicitly 1*atext, with atext defined to
                             include valid chars, which are (quote):
                        ALPHA / DIGIT / ; Any character except controls,
                        "!" / "#" /     ;  SP, and specials.
                        "$" / "%" /     ;  Used for atoms
                        "&" / "'" / "*" / "+" / "-" / "/" / "=" / "?" / "^" /
                        "_" / "`" / "{" / "|" / "}" / "~"
                             ...And in all cases, it is left up to the
                             system to interpret localpart any way it likes.
                             Note that a lot of MTA's _will_ break on some of
                             those characters even though the RFC doesn't make
                             them illegal.
                             \_ more flexible is something like virtual
                                hosting username.domain.tld and forwarding
                                all mail to that smtp virtualhost to
                                username@domain.tld, letting you having
                                spamtag@username.domain.tld.
        \_ qmail does this better. arbitrary hierarchies and easy
           processing. and hyphen looks nicer than plus. --aaron
2002/11/8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26470 Activity:high
11/7    >       who started the csua?
        It was brought back to the undergrads by El Presidente
        It was then that it truly began.
        \_ paolo, get a life.
2002/11/1-2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26375 Activity:moderate
10/31   What is crack and how did running it result in ppl being sorried?
        \_ It cracks passwords semi-brute force with a dictionary attack and
           a lot of cpu & io time.
           \_ and any password actually cracked is then considered a "weak"
              password since crack was able to guess it in a relatively
              short amount of time.
2002/10/31-11/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26370 Activity:low
10/31   I fart in your general direction.
        [ can somebody add that to fortune or put it in /csua/bin/fortune? ]
        \_ I started giggling at this when I saw it this morning, and I've been
           just staring and giggling at it ever since. I got fired.
2002/10/17-18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:26227 Activity:moderate
10/17   Follow up on fagdaddy street. /csua/tmp/ulysses/map.txt from
        somebody who used to work at Etak.
        \_ hey ace that directory is private
           \_ Whoopsie. All better now. -- ace
              \_ The dir is empty!
        \_ cool, thanks.
2002/10/13-14 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:26166 Activity:high
10/13   John Salomon has letter to the editor published in The Economist.
        See it in this week's issue.
        \_ Would someone please put the text somewhere on soda?
        \_ Who is John Salomon?
           \_ > finger john | grep -i salom
Login: john                             Name: John Morgan Salomon
John Salomon, first against the wall when the Revolution comes
        \_ Yeah, type in the letter.  It can't be more than a few paragraphs.
        \_ What issue date exactly? He isn't in the online letters:
           http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=1378418
           (Subscription required)
           \_ The letter doesn't say anything substantial.  Was it just
              repartee or was it edited down?
                \_ Edited-down repartee to a badly-written, ill-informed
                   article featuring worse-than-usual management blather by
                   worse-than-usual cretin Sun manager.  Can
                   I put it on my resume?  :)  -John
                   \_ Can you put the original in /csua/tmp?
                        \_ /csua/tmp/letter.txt
                          \_ That letter never would have been printed save
                             for the "dashingly handsome" bite. I'll have to
                             remember that trick.
                             \_ Hehe.  The "Zurich, Switzerland" bit
                                didn't hurt, either.
                                \_ Ha ha ha! Jesus lord in heaven they suck.
                                   Very well done!
                   \_ URL or title of the original you responded to?
        \_ The Economist is intended for people who want to FEEL that they are
           intellectual, sophisticated, and have a wide breadth of knowledge.
           Stereotyping is what it does to keep its customers.  You happen
           to notice because you have a working knowledge of this subject,
           but it really applies to basically everything in that magazine.
           \_ true.  but i like Economist obituaries -- they alone are
              worth the price of the magazine.  - misha.
              \_ Certainly no other "news" magazine provides unpaid for full
                 page obits for running dog industry captains.
2002/9/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25927 Activity:nil
9/18    Anyone else having problem accessing csua www pages?
        \_ My home page does't work now.
2002/9/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Security] UID:25767 Activity:very high
9/3     I'd like to donate equipments (eg 160G HD) so that I can influence
        politburo members into giving me root access. How do I go about
        doing that? P.S. I'm an alumni
                                \_ alumnus (possibly alumna) or alum
        \_ are you female? I think most of them are tired of making love
           to mr.hand
           \_ rosie Palm and her five sisters are h07!
              \_ The Palm SEXtet (pun intended) will make you blind!
           \_ You mean *Miss* Hand?  Or are they gay?
              \_ No, you're just 100% clueless.
        \_ mail politburo. ask. -chialea
           \_ chialea!  I want to kiss you!  :-)
              \_ are you an eastcoast or westcoast stalker of hers? !fan
              \_ you're freaky
                 \_ No, they're dreamy!  --chialea #1 fan #1 fan
                                            \_ a.k.a. chialea
                                               \_ Incorrect.
                                                  --chialea #1 fan #1 fan
        \_ you're going about it the wrong way.  you need to bribe a single
           root person, not the whole politburo.  you don't want official
           access, just access.  social hacking.
           \_ is that how paolo got root?
           \_ Speaking of bribing, have the recent politburo requested
              alumni support yet for this year?
              \_ still not getting it.  you dont support politburo for root,
                 you buy some kid a few beers.  sheesh.  must i spell out
                 *everything* for you?
                 \_ Not looking for root, just wondering about funding.
                    \_ maybe they can request funding for a SCSI RAID card.
                 \_ if you're cute, you screw for root.
                    \_ The secretary?
                       \_ Good things I'm not sexy@csua anymore -chialea
                    \_ Get real. Sleep with csua root users instead of popping
                       5 bucks for cheap beer?  Son, not all sex is good sex.
                       You should go for the beer option.
2002/8/29-9/4 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25736 Activity:nil 50%like:27235
8/29    /csua/pub/jobs/ZoneLabs updated
        -sky
        \_ permission denied
           \_ d'oh.  fixed -sky
2002/8/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25725 Activity:nil
8/28    Do you logon to csua fearful your boss might see you logging on?
        \_ Not really.  I put her over a server and fuck her ass anytime
           she gets too feisty.
        \_ what is there to fear exactly?
           \_ "You are wasting your time.  One more time, and you are out
              of here"
              \_ Keep wall running.  Tell them it's a knowledge resource
                 (which, really, it is).
              \_ Managers who pull this sort of shit aren't worth their
                 salt.  Get a new job.
              \_ You're not using the right server hardware....
2002/8/28 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25721 Activity:high 66%like:25712
8/28    4600: 233.  9700: 408.46
        \_ My guess is that you're the only one in the world who actually
           cares about this.
           \_ Well, no, I really don't care either.  Find me a better job and
              I'll stop.  You haven't figured out yet that the csua is the
              home of the bored alumni?  This is what happens to cal alum who
              don't get a phd.  You get a very high paying but boring job and
              then waste your 9-5 hours on soda.  Consider the post above where
              some other slacker is off reading the survivor website bios and
              bothered to read to the bottom of this ugly chick's to find out
              she was at Cal and *then* went so far as to login to soda and
              ask the rest of us if we knew her, as if it mattered.
              \_The survivor post was actually more interesting than yours.
                \_ thanks for the input.  mine wasn't supposed to be
                   interesting if you'd actually read half of what i said you'd
                   know that.  you're a doll, keep at it!
              \_ hey-- don't leave me out of the loop. I'm a bored 9-5 alum
                 logging into soda... but don't understand the op. what is it?
                 \_ nvidia 4600 vs ati 9700pro pricing and shipping eta.
2002/8/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25532 Activity:kinda low
8/9     are there any simple command-line games installed on soda?
        \_ /csua/bin/fortune
        \_ /usr/games/*
        \_ /usr/local/bin/pine
        \_ (setenv EDITOR ed; /csua/bin/me)
           \_ env EDITOR=ed /csua/bin/me
2002/8/2 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25475 Activity:high
8/2     Is it true that some of the old farts on soda are actually old
        enough to be my mom and dad?  -sophomore
        \_ No, it's that you're young enough for us to drop kick across
           the county.
        \_ I doubt I was fertile when I was 11.
           \_ wuss...
        \_ We're old enough to do yermom.  Oh wait, we already are.
        \_ We're old enough to do yermom.  Oh wait, we already did.
        \_ There are no "old farts" on soda.  There *are* people on soda who
           forget more everyday before breakfast than you're ever likely to
           know.  That answer your question, kid?
2002/7/31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25461 Activity:very high
7/31    Who is the oldest person on soda?  In terms of age and/or in terms of
        being a member of the CSUA for the longest time.
        \_ lwall:*:166:166:Larry Wall:/csua/home/lwall:/csua/bin/wallall
           \_ How old?
                \_ It was a joke, son.
                   \_ You mean "Larry Wall" is not a real person?
                        \_ He wrote Perl and readnews.
                           \_ "Larry Wall" may have.  lwall@csua did not.
        \_ I am soon to be 42 so I bet it's me! cynthia
           \_ are you really 42?!  You're older than my mom!!
                \_ how old is chialea?
                   \_ not quite that old. 22, in fact. -chialea
                        \_ when are you moving to pittsburgh?
                           \_ before school starts. -chialea
                \_ What's with all this chialea-obsession?  -28-yr-old and
                   has never heard of chialea.
                   \_ beats the hell out of me. maybe they're all waiting
                      anxiously for me to publish this steganography work.
                      -chialea
2002/7/25-26 [Science/Biology, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25423 Activity:high
7/25    I didn't know Gene Kan was UCB Alumni:
        link:www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/3729883.htm
        \_ Duh.  He was a CSUA & XCF member, which is why his death
                was discussed to death when it happened.
        \_ Duh.  Most of the articles that discussed his death mentioned
           that he was a Berkeley alumnus.
        \_ He was a sodan, even. Was that last contact they refer to in
           the article here?
        \_ Hell he was even in my cs186 class.
2002/7/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Security, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:25413 Activity:low
7/25    Thanks to the root types who have been working hard to clean up the
        recent mess on soda and in EECS in general.  The masses are pleased
        to have soda return.  --PeterM
        \_ Word.
        \_ Hmm, is POP and IMAP still down?
        \_ All praise the great root types!
        \_ No HTTP service either
        \_ Your work means a lot to us.  Inability to use soda drives me nuts,
           especially since I use it for love emails.
        \_ specifically much praise is due to mikeh.  He put alot of time into
           the reinstall and cleaning up of things.  'course everybody put
           effort in.
2002/7/18-19 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/SpamAssassin] UID:25385 Activity:nil
7/18    So, I just received a spam about mortgage rates.  Problem is the
        sender address on the email is my own csua address.  Should I be
        concerned?
        \_ You're hosed.  Now that they've got you you're going to get more
           and more and more.  Your csua address is now a spam magnet.
        \_ spamassasin, takes 10 seconds to set up and works really well
           \_ he's still hosed.
2002/7/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25302 Activity:nil
7/8     A default timeout of 10 minutes has been added to /csua/bin/me.
        Use -t to override.  Bugs to me. --scotsman
2002/6/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25231 Activity:nil
6/27    Who's the oldest active member on CSUA? What year?
        \_ psb, 2
2002/6/27-28 [Reference/Law, Politics, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25219 Activity:nil
6/26    /csua/pub/jobs/brobeck-part-time
        Law firm looking for someone who knows communications/digital
        signal processing to help them out.
2002/6/25-26 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25193 Activity:nil 54%like:24661
6/25    /csua/bin/motd_warriors replaced by new version.
2002/6/21-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:25168 Activity:very high
6/21    There are songs about SF, NYC, LA, etc. Are there songs about
        Berkeley? Say from the 60s or something?
        \_ it's not a reasonable comparison.  berkeley is a college town.,
           and those are real cities.  how many songs can you name from
           cambridge, ma, palo alto, cambridge or oxford england,
           north hampton, ma, ithica ny, an arbor michigan, or new haven,ct?
           sure, there are colleges in the cities you mentioned, but
           that's not why there are songs about them(unles you include
           college fight songs in which case berkeley has an annoyingly
           high number.)
           high number.)  people sometimes seem to forget this, but
           berkeley is really just a college town.  no one would even
           think to ask the above question about State College, Pa for instance.
        \_ "The Elements Song", by Tom Lehrer at least mentions
           Berkeley, since two elements are named after Berkeley.
        \_ From the 60s I don't know, but you can start with Green Day,
           "Welcome to Paradise" from the mid-90s.
        \_ Berkeley?  You're confused about what Berkeley is all about.  No one
           in Berkeley actually *does* anything of any note, they just *talk*
           about it a lot and sometimes carry signs.  Why would anyone bother
           to write a song about Berkeley?  Would it be a take off on the "I
           left my heart in SF" song?  Like so, "I left my 3 sheets and my
           bong in Berkeley!"  Nah... doesn't work.  Berkeley shmerkeley.
           \_ attempted comedy? attempted troll? sorry... failed on all
              counts.
                \_ Neither.  Stop looking for what isn't there and wasn't
                   intended.  This isn't a comedy club.
                   \_ Let me guess. You are one of the bitter angry
                      conservatives on soda, right?
                      \_ Hell, I'm a non-bitter, non-angry liberal, and I agree
                         with him/her.  --scotsman
                         \_ Haven't been robbed yet, Ben?
                      \_ Why do you assume all conservatives are bitter and
                         anygry?  Your assumption that anyone with a differing
                         philosophy must have social and psychological problems
                         is a huge intellectual cop-out.
                         \_ You must have huge social and psychological
                            problems.  If he though that ALL conservatives
                            were angry and bitter, he would not have had to
                            specify "one of those bitter angry conservatives"
                            and could have just said "conservatives".  Are
                            you one of those dim-witted, hyper-sensitive
                            conservatives?
                            \_ Yawn.  Are you one of those moronic and
                               blindly stupid ultra leftists who has to
                               determine the meaning of "is" and then attack
                               based on what you've falsely decided someone
                               has said by putting unspoken words in their
                               mouth rather than directly address their
                               statements?  No, you're probably not.  Have a
                               nice day.  :-)
        \_ http://www.thereoutthere.com/useeberklyrics.htm
           How about all those Cal fight songs?
        \_ Start spreading the news, I'm leaving today
                I want to be a part of it - Berkeley Berkeley
           hm, I guess that doesn't sound too good
        \_ Berkeley gets mentioned a fair amount.  Counting Crows
           "Down on Virginia and La Loma/Where I've got friends who care
           for me", Warren Zevon in "Roland, the Headless Thompson Gunner".
           John Denver has a song called "Berkeley Woman".  Joni Mitchell
           mentions People's Park in "Court and Spark."  -tom
           \_ the Barington[sp?] co-op is mentioned in a Primus song
              "if barington starts to breathe again, we might all
               just fade away."  perhaps someone can name the song. i forget.
2002/6/8-7/5 [Reference/Tax, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25038 Activity:nil 85%like:24888 50%like:25010
6/7     [ moved to /csua/tmp/motd.kinney ]
        \_ Cool.  In response to the 6/15 babbling, uhm, dude, we're in a
           recession.  Companies fail during bad times.  Maybe you remember
           when the Federal Government (your tax dollars) had to bail out
           Chrysler?  The S&L's?  Several State governments that have gone
           bankrupt over the years?  There's nothing new here, dude.  There are
           incompetent people at high levels who take huge risks or just make
           lame decisions and kill their companies.  It's been going on since
           we've had companies in the modern sense.  Big yawner.
        \_ Whew that's a lot of spouting.
2002/6/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:25004 Activity:nil
6/6     What is soda's IMAP server?  I tried http://csua.berkeley.edu and failed.
        \_ Well, try it again.
        \_ telnet csua 143 to verify.
2002/6/5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:24990 Activity:nil
6/3     Can we get rid of the link to our finger information from
        the CSUA web site?  This may be a source of spamming.
        \_ 'touch ~/.nofinger' to make yourself invisible to fingerd,
           'touch ~/public_html/.noindex' to remove your homepage
           from the CSUA index. -- jwang
             \_ Thanks. When does that update?
                \_ every Sunday at 2:15am.
2002/5/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Security] UID:24952 Activity:nil
5/26    Congrats on your award for service to the CS department through the
        CSUA paolo!
2002/5/20-21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24888 Activity:nil 85%like:25038
5/20    [see /csua/tmp/motd.kinney]
        \_ beware.  Episode 2 spoilers that way are. --yoda @csua not
           \_ some.  it was mostly semi-coherent ranting about something that
              might have had to do with star wars.
2002/5/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24794 Activity:nil
5/11    "Refreshments Served" or "ASUC/something wheelchair accessible."
        Which is the deputy tagline of CSUA. (CSUA tagline: "If you have
        to ask, you don't know." For those who don't know.)
2002/5/8 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD] UID:24753 Activity:nil
5/7     Two crashes in two days.  What's going on?
        \_ jkh resigned, thus his blessing has left f-bsd
           \_ so now soda shall run Darwin. --jon
        \_ soda crash or plane crash?
2002/5/7 [Academia/Berkeley/Classes, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24738 Activity:nil 75%like:24744
5/6     Implications of DMCA Anti-circumvention Rules for Research

Dr. Pamela Samuelson
SIMS, UC Berkeley

May 8 , 2002 4:00-5:00 p.m.
Hewlett Packard Auditorium, 306 Soda Hall
EECS Joint Colloquium Distinguished Lecture Series
        \_ mp3 whore!  Hundreds of gigs!  Free Warez!  Woo hoo!  divx! yes!
2002/5/6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24728 Activity:kinda low
5/6     If anyone has it, can they post the spiderman wtc preview in /csua/tmp?
        \_ could make soda a warez/movie haven and put up the whole thing
2002/5/3-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24691 Activity:high
5/3     http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/~vance/www/vaxbar.html
        \_ Ooookay... that was reaaaaallly nerdy.
        \_ Why doesn't the CSUA have one? The vp needs to get on the ball.
           \_ I wanted to do this with the old Sequent Balance back in
              the day.  We could have moved Lame in there.  (Lame being
              the old mini-fridge, before it spawned life and had to be
              cleaned... and was subsequently stolen.) -geordan
              \_ I don't think it was stolen.  I think that after danh's
                 underwear mated in an unholy union with a 6 year old bottle
                 of snapple in the bowels of Lame, someone duct-taped and
                 dumped the fucker. --scotsman
                 \_ Had SnappleĀ®. even been around for 6 years then? --jon
                 \_ Had SnappleM-. even been around for 6 years then? --jon
                    \_ It's quite possible.  I had that bottle of Snapple
                       Iced Tea living in my room for what, 2 years when I
                       started college. -geordan
2002/5/1 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24661 Activity:nil 54%like:25193
4/30    Damn, I was bored.  /csua/bin/motd_warriors --Jon
        \_ cute.  I like it.
2002/4/23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Politics] UID:24540 Activity:nil
4/22    /csua/bin/me updated.  Race condition removed with a thing-of-beauty
        hack.  Thanks for the idea, jon.  --scotsman
2002/4/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24520 Activity:nil
**/**   Mail root for -administrative- questions. For assistance, mail help.

  UNAUTHENTICATED, UNCENSORED, SSSSSMOKIN' PUBLIC MESSAGES BELOW THIS LINE
  [ See also: /csua/pub/jobs & /csua/pub/housing & /csua/pub/recruiting ]
2002/4/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24519 Activity:nil
12/07   Return OVERDUE CSUA library books to 343 Soda, ASAP!  --librarian
2002/4/22 [Computer/HW/CPU, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24518 Activity:nil
12/09   "got mips?" t-shirts!  See dans or visit the CSUA office.  $10
2002/4/22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24515 Activity:nil
**/**      --==< Politburo Meetings: Tuesdays, 5:00pm, 337 Soda. >==--
2002/4/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24450 Activity:very high
4/15    Who is considered the major hot asian babe on soda ?
        \_ geordan (but no one believes me) --stalker #634
        \_ elle?
           \_ Who?
           \_ Pics please?
              \_ Oh, hell.  I knew I should have invested in more
                 bandwidth. -geordan
        \_ jsl
           \_ mmm, criscoy goodness
        \_ chiapet
        \_ pst
                \_ no such user?
                        \_ It's Paolo.  !chick.
                \_ /csua/bin/finger -p pst
        \_ fonger?
        \_ http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~anjie/portfolio/anjie/noir.html
        \_ jean?
2002/4/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24422 Activity:nil
4/12    for alumns; check out the new look of mlk:
        /csua/tmp/mlk1stfloor*
2002/4/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24415 Activity:nil
4/10    Random stuff for sale: /csua/tmp/payam/forsale. Some free stuff too.
2002/4/9-10 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24392 Activity:very high
4/9     Has anyone got a picture of the 96 CSUA tshirt?
        \_ Which one was that? -geordan
           \_ /csua/archive/tshirt.f96
              \_ I've seen people wearing these on occasion, so they're still
                 around. Keep looking... -current ugrad
                 \_ I still have mine.  I suppose I could scan it.
                    That would require me to be non-lazy, though. -geordan
                    \_ Whoah there! It's not worth the risk! Just stay
                       calm and we'll have somebody there in a minute. The very
                       thought that you would explore non-laziness! No!
2002/4/8-9 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:24372 Activity:kinda low
4/8     Berkeley Study Links Soda to High Childhood Obesity Rates
        \_ http://dailycal.org/article.asp?id=8225
        \_ No.  More like too much TV and not enough running around outside.
        \_ more like playing basketball and other sports on Playstation
           rather than outside.
           \_ and of course all these motd geeks are top athletes.  -tom
           \_ Some of them, yes.  Even if not, a bad athlete still burns
              a hell of a lot more calories than they would on the couch.
2002/4/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24321 Activity:nil
4/3     http://www.rectaltronics.com should be a very popular CSUA site.
2002/3/12 [Computer/SW/Mail, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24084 Activity:nil
3/11    What's soda's smtp server?
        \_ <DEAD>smtp.soda.berkeley.edu<DEAD>?
            \_ host -t MX http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu
http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu mail is handled (pri=20) by http://scotch.csua.berkeley.edu
http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu mail is handled (pri=10) by http://soda.csua.berkeley.edu
                (Soda is the primary, scotch is the secondary.  Soda also
                handles its own pop and imap services).  -crebbs
2002/3/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:24049 Activity:nil
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 01:03:09AM -0800, Galen Hancock wrote:
> This thread has become unreasonably long and no longer contains any
> actual content. I suggest you stop cc'ing csua@csua on your messages. If
> you want to feel like you have an audience for your various rants, you
> can cc lwall, which gets plenty of crap anyway.
>
>                                       Galen

NO DISCUSSION ON CSUA LISTS
NO DISCUSSION ALLOWED
ALL HAIL
2002/2/27 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23987 Activity:very high
2/26    It's almost impossible to find out how to break into soda
        machines.  What is this world coming to?
        \_ so, was that info ever available?
           \_ yes.
                \_ oops got it. thought you meant the computers
                   (machines) in soda hall.
        \_ I wonder if it's still possible to do what we did a lot
           in HS, which was fill a squirtable bottle (dishwashing soap,
           etc) full of really salty water and just shoot that shit in
           every hole and press all the buttons and the coin return
           over and over until shit started to short circuit and coins
           and sodas started falling out of it.  Best time ever was when
           somehow we blew out all the lights in the Menlo Park train
           station somehow.  But yo, WE NEED CASH LIKE ANYONE.
           \_ Yeah, right. Palo Alto mall rats are known for their poverty.
2002/2/21-22 [Computer/Networking, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23935 Activity:nil
2/21    New job posting in /csua/pub/jobs for Juniper Networks.  Anyone
        know of any other places like CSUA where I can post this job req?
        TIA.  - dsw
2002/2/19-20 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23914 Activity:nil
2/19    Saw this and I thought of the CSUA.  Good luck with the job search:
        http://www.digitalcampaigns.com/d5.html
2002/2/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23773 Activity:kinda low
2/4     could someone put when the next politburo/csua meetings
        are, in advance, in the motd.official?  thanks
        \_ try emailing the secretary, karthik
2002/2/4-5 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23767 Activity:nil
2/4     too much focuss on self-esteem in schools/society?
        I thought some csua-ers might like this article
        http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/03/magazine/03ESTEEM.html
2002/1/28 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23689 Activity:high
1/27    So what's the functional difference between /csua/bin/webfmt and
        /usr/bin/fmt ? They seem pretty close to identical.
        \_ try using fmt with text cut/pasted from netscape
2002/1/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23611 Activity:high
1/20    summary of critique of pure reason: man critique
        (it's in /csua/man/man7)
        \_ you translated that into ROFF?
           \_ nah, searle writes in ROFF.
        \_ searle is still a dick.
           \_ I saw him talk in public, and kind of thought he sounded like
              a long winded fool, but not really a dick.  is he?
              \_ Yes to both.
        \_ Um, how about you put that on a webpage?  How long until the
           anti-Israeli guy starts turning his rants into man pages?
           \_ first off, it's not a rant.  2nd, it's in roff, 3rd if you
              don't like it, don't read it.
2002/1/5-6 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Security] UID:23468 Activity:moderate
1/4     csua/csua and user/pass are two short, many sites require 5-8 char
        names and passwords.  What should is sign up as then?  -goodCSUAer
        \_ ucbcsua with password ucbcsua1, ucbcsua2, etc.
           Or csua123 or csuacsua as username.  Some site require
           pw diff from logins so either have a pw that is the
           reverse of the login or I dunno...?
        \_ cypherpunk/cypherpunk
        \_ csuamotd/csuamotd works fine for me at a few places.  thanks to
           whoever set that up.
        \_ How about a /csua/pub file of websites with user/pass for each.
        \_ soda.csua/password was set up for NYT.
2001/12/18 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Industry/Jobs] UID:23287 Activity:insanely high
12/17   Where can I get a poster of Cal pictures (e.g. poster of Sather gate
        or tower, Soda Hall, etc etc?) -Cal sick alumni with a windowless
                                cubicle who hates working in the industry
        \_ http://www.OCF.Berkeley.EDU/~oso/calpics/sather.jpg
           \_ Isn't that from some Playboy College Interview or something?
              \_ are you familiar with the capabilites of the Google
                 toolbar's "Up" button?
                 \_ Did I mention Brooke was my girlfriend until I dumped her?
                    \_ It's strange that http://images.google.com doesn't find any
                       pics for her when searching for "Brooke Williams".
                       \_ it's brooke BERRY now
                          \_ get off my dick.
                       \_ Berry is her real last name.  Williams was an alias.
                    \_ Nice tits!  From your experience are those real?
                        \_ Oh yeah!  They're real!  The doctor said they were
                           as good as the real thing!  Try the pencil test.
                 \_ No, sorry.
        \_ Reprint Mint on Telegraph should have some of the Ansel Adams
           images.  -tom
           \_ Ansel Adams has images of UCB?
                \_ Yes, he did a whole series of Berkeley shots.  -tom
                \_ http://photo.ucr.edu/photographers/adams -lcddave
           \_ any color print? I'm a color kinda person.
                \_ why don't you go there and look.  Sheeze.  -tom
              \_ I too thought Ansel Adams only took B&W pics, but at the
                 "Anzel Adams at 100" exhibition in SF I actually saw a few
                 color postcards.  -- yuen
                \_ he did some color prints, but he wasn't happy with
                   the quality available at the time.  He also basically
                   invented a developing system for black and white prints,
                   and his developing skills wouldn't really carry over.  -tom
                   \_ wow, that's like us, developing awsome UNIX skills
                      that are so esoteric that they will not be carried over
                      to the next few decades
                      \_ Yeah, except for the awesome part.  -oj
                      \_ People still create great pictures in black and
                         white.  -tom
2001/12/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23253 Activity:nil
12/14   I think we should all work to make sure that every crappy "you must
        login to use" has a csua/csua user/pass combo.
        \_ Ok, I'll cover NY Times, you cover the porn sites. -phil
        \_ Good idea.
2001/12/13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23237 Activity:high
12/13   I am a CSUA alumni member who would like to surreptiously take
        control of the new Politburo, as a way of preventing the ineptitude
        of the Fall '01 officers from presenting itself again.  What is the
        best way to form my shadow government?
        \_ He who owns the motd owns the future... or something like that, no
           wait, maybe it was the wall, or hoserchat, or... nevermind.
        \_ you should sell weapons to other student organizations to
           create a slush fund for your sub-group in the CSUA.  use
           this to fund your coup.
        \_ mmmmm, csua puppet regime...
        \_ spawn offspring, and have them enter the csua when they
           enroll at cal.
2001/11/24 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll] UID:23092 Activity:high
11/22   csua poll:
        yen will hit 130: ..
        yen will stop at 128:
        yen wil go back to 120:
        \_ who's yen?
           \_ Annabel Chong's friend.
        yen will hit it with annabel and go out for a smoke: .
        shut the fuck up, cmlee: .
        who the fuk cares:  ..
2001/11/21-2002/1/11 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23063 Activity:nil
11/16   Materials relating to disciplinary procedures will not be released
        without at least one of the following:
                a) a subpoena
                b) the written consent of the full politburo and the
                   member involved
        This will give the members of the CSUA the privacy they rightly
        expect.
2001/11/21-29 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23062 Activity:nil
11/17   Net to Soda Hall was down early this morning due to a problem
        with the gigabit link feeding most CS networks in Soda, causing
        all CSUA systems to be unreachable from outside Soda Hall. --jon
        \_ and again this afternoon. --jon
        \_ and again this evening. thrice --jon
2001/11/16 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23061 Activity:nil
11/15   Can someone provide an explanation to why the CSUA can't have
        the http://soda.berkeley.edu as a CNAME for soda?
2001/11/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Motd] UID:23054 Activity:very high
11/15   DNS PROBLEM. CSUA staff, can you please check the external DNS?
        only the www.csua.b--- is working. http://soda.berkeley.edu is not.
        thanks!
        \_ This has been expected for years. CSUA does not officially "own"
           http://soda.berkeley.edu. You've been told many times to use the csua
           prefix.
        \_ Is your attention span so limited that you can't read or scan
           the motd all the way through to see this topic already covered?
           \_ Can the CSUA Politburo lobby to keep a pointer from <DEAD>s.b.edu<DEAD>
              by suggesting this name has been around for a long time and
              is in many web pages, used by many people etc. A reasonable
              hostmaster shoud allow this if reasonably asked. Two big ifs
              perhaps.
        \_ Just out of curiousity, why can't http://soda.berkeley.edu be used
           by the CSUA?
2001/11/15 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:23048 Activity:moderate
11/15   Since the undergrad labs are moving to Hearst Mining Caverns,
        and the current office is falling into ruins, is the CSUA
        going to relocate to Hearst too?
        \_ youre not really talking about the caverns behind hearst ,
          are you?  when i was an undergrad, there was a mine shaft back there,
          but it was coollapsed in one section, and was small with only
          one room, and you had to crawl thru mud to get in.
        \_ Something happened to Soda hall?  Why are people moving away.
           -- alum
           \_ recent rains flooded the CSUA office.  curiously it didn't
              flood the office to the left, or to the right.  what's
              up with that?  the soda faculty plan to move the undergrad
              labs to Hearst in The Near Future
                \_ It's obviously a conspiracy.  You have no evidence that the
                   profs didn't plan it this way.
                   \_ Or the XCF?
                      \_ XCF is effectively dead. They got kicked out of 311
                         into a little broom closet (346 Soda) for not
                         doing anything visibly productive and living in the
                         office. They=={eric,vadim,and now misha}
                         \_ The XCF has been dead for years.  Making it semi-
                            official doesn't change anything.
        \_ from the nuclear wasteland to the mining wasteland??
2001/11/7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Industry/Jobs] UID:22969 Activity:nil
11/7    Be the Man!  Oakland Police looking for cadets; must be full-time
        college students:
        /csua/pub/jobs/OP
2001/11/6-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:22956 Activity:nil
11/5    /csua/tmp/ep2_breathing_m640.mov
2001/11/6-7 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:22950 Activity:high
 11/5  This has probably been asked a thousand times...but...how does one
         post newsgroup articles here on CSUA without revealing one's true
         email address?  Thanks        -kngharv
       \_ I would like to know this too. Asked and no one answered.
       \_ Yeah!  How to post?
        \_ give it a rest, obviously no one knows. =D
2001/10/31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:22883 Activity:nil
10/30   Can we run a webcam in Soda and/or CSUA?
        \_ webcam are voyeuristic tools of perversion.
           \_ i suppose that means yes?
        \_ There already is one in soda somewhere.  It's even watching CSUA
           people (no, not the lounge or office).  But I'm not telling you
           the URL.  Neener.
           \_ is this the one you had in mind?
              IE:
                http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mhoward/cam/popup-java.html
              NS:
                http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mhoward/cam
2001/10/30-31 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:22870 Activity:nil
10/29   Re: the earlier question about sftp, is there a reason why sftpd
        isn't on for csua?  Is there a known security issue with it?
        \_ Oh, that's why it seems to hang when I try to sftp to soda from my
           Solaris box.
2001/10/25 [Computer/SW/Mail, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Finance/Investment] UID:22829 Activity:nil
10/25   How do I do anonymous NNTP posting via tin from csua? I can
        change my from email address, but tin still inserts a Sender line
        which includes my full email and name. Thx.
2001/10/22-23 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:22797 Activity:very high
10/22   oh my... is /csua/tmp/wathmorld.tar.gz really what I think it is?!!
        \_ shut up, make a local copy, and forget where you found it. 20
           years from now when the copyright cops become extinct, we can
           all celebrate...
        \_ SWEET JESUS, I THINK IT IS! GOD HAS SMILED ON US!!
           \_ is this sarcasm?
              \_ sad
              \_ No.
        \_ What does it seem to be?  Math tutorial?
           \_ It is just about one of the greatest resources for all
              things math. I just can't believe that there is a copy
              here on soda. Read this for the complete saga:
                   http://mathworld.wolfram.com
2001/10/21 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Academia/GradSchool] UID:22784 Activity:high
10/19   How do I reserve 306 Soda? I'd like to get a room to get a bunch of
        people to study for the GRE. Thanks.
        \_ http://buffy.eecs.berkeley.edu/Resguide/CS/sodasched.shtml
           ( http://www.cs , then click on "Room Reservations")
           \_ Make sure you press the "Login" button first, then go back to
              that page and you'll be able to view current reservations for
              all reservable Soda rooms. If you're looking for a place to do
              a group study session, I strongly recommend against 306, which
              is not set up for group interaction; try 310, 320, 373, 380,
              405, or 606. On a somewhat related note, HKN has been running
              some review sessions for the CS Subject Test; the last one is
              this Thu at 6:30 in 306, for 170/172 material.
2001/10/20-22 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:22782 Activity:high
10/19   How do you take 101010, draw one straight line, and get 950?
        (answer in /csua/tmp/riddle.txt)
        \_ hey these are FUN. Please post a new one every day.
        \_ pardon my cluelessness, what sort of notaton is T?
           \_ put a space after every second character and maybe you'll get it
        \_ just curious, how many people actually got the answer?
2001/10/10-13 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA] UID:22681 Activity:nil
10/9    The IP address renumbering for CSUA systems is mostly done.
        The nameservers for http://Berkeley.EDU have not updated yet with the
        new information, so DNS resolution of CSUA hostnames will be
        problematic.  A message will be posted here and on http://ucb.org.csua
        when the update occurs.  we hope you enjoy (but do not abuse)
        the increased network capacity. --root
2001/10/9-10 [Computer/Domains, Academia/Berkeley/CSUA, Computer/SW/Unix] UID:22673 Activity:nil
10/9    http://soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU now has an ip address of 128.32.247.226.
        it and scotch (aka ftp) were unreachable due to miswired connections
        in the network closet from the network changeover.  it may take a
        while for new DNS information to get around.  we hope you enjoy
        (but do not abuse) the increased network capacity. --root
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