10/7    What's the new IP address going to be for soda?
        \_ http://www.csua.org  probably somewhere in the south bay.
           \_ Shoo, you.  The only services I provide with http://csua.org right now
              are email redirection (username@csua.org ->
              username@csua.berkeley.edu) and web redirection
              (http://username.csua.org ->
               http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~username     --dbushong
              \_ Are you planning to keep this up? Is it paid for by CSUA
                 funds?  If so, can I start giving these out as my email
                 and webpage?
        \_ It's been posted to csua@csua & http://ucb.org.csua

10/4    How come sometimes URLs work without the "www" part and sometimes
        they don't?  Thanks.
        \_ because the domain was setup that way. Kinda like saying,
           "Why does http://csua.berkeley.edu need the csua part?", cause
            it was set up that way... -M Diddy
        \_ Some sites are only on the World Wide Web because it's less
           expensive than being on the entire internet.
        \_ it's part of a vast conspiracy. wheels within wheels my friend.
        \_ http://www.foo.com is just a DNS record that ends up resolving to a
           system somewhere.  What the hell is so special about http://www.foo.com
           nothing.  just a DNS record. --jon
           \_ Sorry I was not clear on what I meant.  Sometimes when I type
              http://foo.com, my browser will automatically go to http://www.foo.com
              Whereas if I type http://bar.com, it would end up not found; and I'll
              type http://www.bar.com and it would work.      - original poster

9/20    from now on, only the CSUA motd.official shall be visible from
        http://www.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU/motd  -poliburo

9/14    I'd like to make the following points:

    (1) If you haven't read wall.log yet (or don't know how to), at least
        one CSUA member had indicated to the Politburo that they felt
        threatened and scared by the racist comments in the MOTD.

    (2) The Politburo did not make this fact clear to the membership,
        that it was a basis for the closing of the MOTD.  Instead, it is
        described as "anti-arab sentiment offending many members" in
        /csua/pub/minutes/F2001/0913.politburo.
        (no offense intended to the CSUA Secretary)

        You're all human beings.  I'll let you figure out who was right
        and who was wrong here.  You can then return to what you were doing,
        instead of feeling incredulous, righteous, wronged -- whatever.

9/15    DOWN WITH POLITBURO!!!!!

9/14    I'd like to make the following points:

        (1) If you haven't read wall.log yet (or don't know how to), at least
            one CSUA member had indicated to the Politburo that they felt
            threatened and scared by the racist comments in the MOTD.

        (2) The Politburo did not make this fact clear to the membership,
            that it was a basis for the closing of the MOTD.  Instead, it is
            described as "anti-arab sentiment offending many members" in
            /csua/pub/minutes/F2001/0913.politburo.
            (no offense intended to the CSUA Secretary)

        You're all human beings.  I'll let you figure out who was right
        and who was wrong here.  You can then return to what you were doing,
        instead of feeling incredulous, righteous, wronged -- whatever.
        \_ I read wall.log and at least two of the comments have been
           clearly misinterpreted. They were ment to illustrate just how
           stupid a particular line of reasoning was.

9/14    I'm reminded of the kkat presidency.  When are y'all gonna walk
        out and leave danh as supreme CSUA dictator again? --scotsman
        \_ I wish.
        \_ "Never compromise, even in the face of armageddon." - Rorshach

9/13    I'm curious what the closest that anyone in the CSUA is to the
        tragedy... my friend's aunt was a stewardess on one of the flights.
        Anyone else care to divulge?
        \_ My sister-in-law's student's relative (Is this very far?) was in
           WTC and made a goodbye call to his wife because he was trapped
           up on one of the upper floors.
        \_ A co-worker's friend was on the SFO-bound flight.
        \_ Word going around of a girl at CKC who lost her entire family
           on one of the flights.
        \_ maroo (amazing in netrek) works at morgan stanley in wtc. he is alright
           and most of their company is accounted for
           jack hsu - (gaia in netrek) was across the canal and saw the wtc towers
           go down
           \_ submit these to <DEAD>safe.millennium.berkeley.edu<DEAD>
           \_ Did Jack really log 500 hours of netrek during 1 semester?
             \_ on how many different servers?  --oj
                \_ What does that mean?  I don't play netrek, just heard the
                \_ I don't know.  I don't play netrek.  Just heard the
                   above about Jack.
                   above about Jack.  Are you from Catholic High?
        \_ my best friend's college buddy was on the 85th floor when
           it happened.  He got out a couple minutes before first tower
           collapsed. He was in first tower.
           \_ What floors did the plane hit?
           \_ What floors did the plane hit?  I thought 85 would be above the
              hit.
           \_ What floors did the plane hit?  I thought 85 was above where
              it hit.
        \_ This is kind of macabre... I used to be a consultant to Lehman
           and worked in the WTC. I also have a friend who lives a few blocks
           away in Tribeca.

9/12    How about a csua t-shirt that says,
        "Now is not the time for justice, now is the time for WAR!"
        i bet it would sell well right now.
        \_ Hi paolo!

9/10    Antimasturbation devices for csua members (no pun):
        Check out http://free.freespeech.org/shockingtruth/pittjohnson.html
        esp. the quotes at the bottom.  These guys are serious...
        \_ It can't be real.  How do you pay for something priced at 34.99
           pound sterling in British currency?  -- not from Britain
        \_ too bad it isn't true.
        \_ It can't be real.  How do you pay for something at 34.99 pound
           sterling in British currency?
           \_ it's obviously not real

9/6     Politburo meetings scheduled (for now) for 18:30-19:30 Thu in 337.

8/22    Poll:
        CSUA Snob Award goes to:
        psb:    1 for idiotic post about teaching grad level math to freshmen.
        tom:    2                                   \_ where?
        ali:    2 for being a rude know-it-all Muslim asshole
                        ali, are you a Moslem? _/
                              \_ no he is made out of cloth, doy!
                        \_ not sure, but he sure acts like one
                        \_ Are you Hindu?
                           \_ he acts like a jew.
                              \_ his religion isn't the reason he's a snob.
        \_ How come I am not up there? -- ilyas
         \_ because you are just a moron
            \_ As opposed to a moron and a snob like the above three, or as
               opposed to a moron, a snob, and a coward like you, my friend?
                \_ Hey I know ali isn't a moron.
                   \_ In the greater scheme of things, everyone is probably a
                      moron.

8/13    war is over.  xcf loses 311 soda.
        \_ XCF hasn't produced a piece of useful product since Gimp and those
           days are long over.
           \_ The star of XCF will rise again.  -- misha.
        \_ i remember reading an interview with pete and spencer that
           said "we didn't write the gimp in the xcf really, and
           the xcf was a big distraction anyway"
           \_ it produced vadim and his empire of warez!
           \_ Gimp was a useful product?
              \_ here here.  gimp is lame.  What was useful was the research
                 done by lapsley && co to fight the morris worm.
                 \_ very droll
           \_ Yeah! Those XCF lusers... the CSUA on the other hand has produced
              ... uh... nevermind.
              \_ Try reading the charter, dimwit. The CSUA never claimed to
                 produce anything.           [ restored ]
                 \_ So you're saying, "Because the CSUA has never aspired to
                    anything, it's better than the XCF which aspired to some-
                    thing and failed"?
                    \_ No, idiot, I'm saying that the CSUA has lived up to
                       its charter; your comparison is silly.
                        \_ You mean the CSUA's charter is something more than
                           what the XCF did? They seem the same to me, a club
                           with a bunch of yammering members, and people who
                           don't give a damn.
                           \_ The XCF's charter claimed they were something
                              different than what they did in practice.  In
                              practice they have recently acted in a fashion
                              similar to the recent CSUA, but with a limited
                              membership.
        \_ Vadim wins: FATALITY?

8/7     Does soda have sww mounted?
        \_ No.
        \_ who is sww?
           > finger sww
           finger: sww: no such user
           \- dumbass...

7/21    [{/csua/bin/ /tmp/}/finger] to get thru .nofinger

7/20    I found another page of kinneydrivel I forgot to add to the
        archive. Updated. Also, I happened to notice a post from 6/30
        asking the name of an old game where you return to find Earth
        enslaved and you send landers down to collect minerals:
        Star Control 2. --Mr. Helpful
        >~ 86> wc /csua/tmp/motd.kinney
        >     567    5581   35335 /csua/tmp/motd.kinney

7/2     Is http://inpassing.org run by a CSUA'er?
        \_ As per below, bsii@rescomp is "affiliated" -- he's the author's
           boyfriend. To the best of my knowledge, neither is CSUA-affiliated,
           although several people on soda know bsii@rescomp in person.
        \_ No, and you'll never be on it.
        \_ Well, bsii@rescomp.berkeley.edu (admin contact for the domain)
           doesn't seem to have a CSUA account, so probably not.
        \_ it's by some cog sci student.  I can't remember her
           name right now, but it's not a CSUA thing
           \_ You're full of it. She's a BioEng person.
           \_ Eve?
           \_that was her pseudonym in the daily cal story, so
             go ahead, call her eve if you want
             \_ You can call me Al.
                \_ I can call you Betty?  Can you be my bodyguard?
                   I can be your long lost pal.
             \_ Eve Kendall?
             \_ Eve S. Dropper.
        \_ Cog Sci Students Assoc, maybe.
           \_ hehehehe.  -- cog. sci. #1 fan

6/14    does csua/berkeley have an o.e.d. online subscription? -homer
        \_ berkeley has one, yes (for anything matching <DEAD>.berkeley.edu<DEAD>$).

5/29    danh, why do you have a bunch of frequent typos symlinked
        to wall in /csua/bin? And why does pld have a bunch of symlinks of
        usernames to other usernames?
        \_ There is no secret cabal of Daves.  I'm sorry, what was the question
           again?

5/30    Wanna go to JavaOne? A small company needs people to man their booth.
        /csua/pub/jobs/Jinfonet
        \_ should've said: "Wanna be a monkey at JavaOne?"
           \_ Yeah... well... you get to go. And you get enough cash to cover
              a few movies... and you get some free food and drinks... and you
              get to meet the booth babes. What are you looking for? A
              technically stimulating job at a trade show?

04/07   nweaver rants 7pm-4/17,306 Soda details: http://ugrad.csua.berkeley.edu
        \_ is there a <DEAD>grad.csua.berkeley.edu<DEAD> and an <DEAD>alumni.csua.berkeley.edu<DEAD>?
           what about staff.csua and faculty.csua?  what does the u in csua
           stand for?
                \_ If u have to ask...
                   \_ perhaps he/she was trying to make a point.  He/She
                      probably know what "u" in csua means.
                      \_ what does the "u" in .edu stand for?
                         \_ what does the "o" in "education" stand for?
                                \_ Same thing as the "u" when you're in the
                                   deep south.  its optional.
                                   \_ What does the "d" in "Bush" stand for?
                                        \_ Democrat?
                                           \_ Why is the "p" silent in
                                              "toilet"?

3/13    What's a good colocation facility in Berkeley?
        \_ My basement.  My living room is good, too, but that's more
           expensive.
        \_ 311 Soda.  Fast Bandwidth, you have to be on their vpn tho.
        \_ http://autobahn.org, cheap.

3/14    Must-see TV this week was Bill O'Reilly being confronted by Star
        Jones on The View regarding his successful pursuit of Jesse Jackson.
        The ladies on the panel had been provided with crib cards of
        background notes which they shuffled helplessly as he patiently
        explained. The salary for Jackson's mistress? 150,000 tax free
        dollars. The look on Star Jones face? Priceless.
                \_ Someone tell me their girlfriend/wife recorded this?
        (note: this is not the standard assumption that there are no CSUA
        girls, just a vain hope that csua girls don't watch the View).

2/26    "Stanford is Model, Cal's Berdahl Says"
        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2001/02/26/SP135965.DTL
        \_ this is about sports.  you know, when the csua goes poof, and
        this server goes away, i'll be glad that at least the sports inanity
        will dissapear.
        \_ That reminds me of a TV commercial for UCSF a few years ago where
           a nerdy football player got knocked down, couldn't catch a pass,
           and so on.
        \_ The CSUA ain't gonna "go poof"!

2/24    3 rocks of crack for sale, $20 a piece. This is not a joke.
        Go to the CSUA office next Tuesday at 5pm. Ask for some special
        "merchandise."

2/14    Lonely on 2/14? Call your mom. Get her something nice.
        \_ I already got yermom something nice.  Why didn't you?  You're
           a customer.
        \_ What if your mom is dead?  -welch
                \_ of the 200+ sorried users, is this one's mother dead?
                        \_ sigh.  too many newbies.
                           \_ #f. i've been around for years, this one
                                must've escaped me. i feel so left out!

2/8     The CSUA should have a date auction to raise money.
                \_ Raise money for what?  'oors?
        \_ who the hell would pay money to date CSUA members?
           \_ would you pay to *not* date CSUA members?  we had fundraisers
              on this principle at my highschool.  people paid people like
              me to stop singing.  we had amplified sound in the cafeteria,
              and made alot of money.
                \_ you are the exception
                \_ why pay when i could just walk away?
           \_ help the csua male populaiton would pay to date even the ugly
                   \_ ...and eat lunch outdoors, in the winter, in New England,
                   by yourself.  No, when people heard my singing, they started
                   handing out fives and tens to make the noise stop.
                   \_ uh huh.
           \_ half the csua male population would pay to date even the ugly
              and dumb female csuaers.
              \_ There are female sodas!?! Can I have one?
                \_ man, the last semester being in Soda, there were a few
                   young and cute girls in the classes.  Dang!
                   \_ Both of em huh?
                \_ go take a cold shower.  women are for the weak.
                   \_ Your blood line SHALL end HERE!
                      \_ let go your pitiful evolutionary struggles.
                         kids are 20 years of money and trouble, and so are
                         women.  man with 20 kids shall be just as dead as geek.
                        |_ is there a single decent-looking soda female?
                          \_ on the whole they look better than the males
                                \_ uh like who for instance?  liladog?

2/1     I have an old HP LJ IIIsi with a JetDirect card. Would it be of any
        use for soda/csua?

1/29    Free cs164 manual/reader from Fall 2000.  mail mjm
        \_ Charge $0.50 and the demand will go up.
        \_ I'll bring it to the csua office for a can of coke.
        \_ I've got a lot of shit like this that I'd be willing to give away.
           (164, 186, 61a, etc)... Is there any "reader repository" anywhere?
           \_ ASUC does something like this, but they don't organize it at any
              helpful level.  If the csua could set up a box in the loung, it
              might save some paper.
              \_ There is currently talk of organizing a reader recycling
                 program in HKN. If you _have_ to offload it, drop it off
                 at 345 Soda (HKN office); if HKN doesn't come up with,
                 your stuff will migrate to CSUA. If you don't care that much,
                 just wait for an announcement which will get cc'ed to
                 csua@csua when and if this program does get going. -alexf

01/23   The new politburo:
        team-leader: twohey
        equipment-guy: paolo
        communications-officer: chialea
        loyalty-officer: galen  (treasurer)
        morale-officer: darin (lib)

1/25    I've always thought fonger was hot (<DEAD>soda/~fonger<DEAD> until
        I happened to run across this yesterday:
        http://dojo.asian-orbit.com/bewo (scroll down to Gallery 11).  It's
        unbelievable what some people would do.
        \_ That's not really fonger, is it?
           \_ That's exactly my point.
              \_ Is that really fonger on ~fonger?
        \_ Did you ever think that maybe fonger put the picture up because
           fonger just liked it? It's not like it says, ``This is my public
           web page for people to learn about me, and this is what I look
           like'' or anything...
           \_ I'm confuse.  Please explain to me in very simple term.
        \_ try harry potter.
        \_ Hahaha.  Sucker.  I hope you didn't spend countless nights
           masturbating in front of fonger's webpage.  Serves you right
           for lusting after csua females.
           \_ There are females in csua?
              \_ I've heard of people walking in on couples "doing
                 it" on the CSUA lounge sofa.
                 \_ what? ee40 homework?
              \_ Oh, yeah.  <DEAD>soda/~anjie/portfolio/anjie/noir.html<DEAD>
                 http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~jean
                 \_ ~suzuki
                    \_ Any cuter ones?
                 \_ you guys are funny. -female
                    \_ what's your login name so that we can prowl
                       through your webpage?
        \_ babe@CSUA

01/23   Congrat-u-fuckin-lations, your new politburo:
        president: twohey
        vice president: paolo
        secretary: chialea
        treasurer: galen
        librarian: darin

01/16   ---> CSUA GENERAL MEETING AND POLITBURO ELECTIONS  <---
        ---> 5:00pm, Tuesday, Jan 23rd 2001, 337 Soda Hall <---

01/16   Readable version of .official post above:
        Politburo Elections & CSUA General Meeting
        5:00pm, Thu 01/18/01
        337 Soda (the CSUA lounge)

1/2   It's a new year, update your life file entries! /csua/pub/life
        \_ Do people who graduated and out of school for several years still
           get to play?
           \_ No, but they can play /csua/pub/afterlife

15:58   /csua/pub/jobs/webMethods2.  Come work at the rapidly expanding
        company where CSUA h0zers such as smurf,mel,oj,boyd,eric,dstein
        and van already work. -eric
        \_ So what do you guys actually DO?
                \_ Buzzword generation.  B2Bi was good.  Nominations for other
           http://www.webmethods.com/company/executives_board/0,1323,,00.html
                   top choices?
        \_ what locations?
        \_ No Berkeley folk involved in running this company.
           http://www.webmethods.com/company/executives_board/0,1323,,00.html
           \_ VP Marketing Development and VP Product Development went to Cal.
                \_ Doesn't say they got degrees.  Just hung out and got stoned.
        \_ Release architect = build engineer.  Basically you do installers
           and makefiles and/or other scripted stuff to build their
           products.  Pretty mundane (unexciting) work so it should pay
           you well.  At least $80k/yr for a couple yrs experience or
           you're being taken advantage.
           \_ Yes. Exactly.  So my point is that why didn't they just call it
              Build engineer or release manager or something.  Architect?
        \_ Does this person have to do bad-*ss source version countrol as well,
           or is it just limited version release control?
                \_ Typically this sort of job involves the whole thing.  What
                   you describe as "limited" is nothing more than running an
                   rdist or rsync with the right parameters once or twice a
                   week.
                   \_ Indeed.

4/250   yo politburo, who is the new ruling class?
        \_ maybe they're still counting ballots

11/21   CSUA POLITBURO ELECTIONS will be held at the next GENERAL MEETING.
        Tuesday, Dec 5th. 6:00pm. 337 Soda Hall. Make your voice heard! Vote!

**/**   Politburo Meetings 6-7pm, 1st & 3rd Tuesdays, 337 Soda Hall

11/21   CSUA POLITBURO ELECTIONS will be held at the next GENERAL MEETING.
                 Tuesday, Dec 5th.   6:00pm.   337 Soda Hall.
        ---++--- Save the CSUA! Make your voice heard! VOTE! ---++---

11/21   The next meeting, 5 Dec 2000, will be a GENERAL MEETING.  We will
        be electing a NEW POLITBURO.  If you would like to save the csua,
        please come to 337 Soda and make your voice heard!

**/**   Politburo Meetings 5-6pm, 1st & 3rd Tuesdays, 337 Soda Hall

        The next CSUA meeting, 21 Nov 2000, is a GENERAL MEETING.

11/14   /csua/bin/weather updated. bugs to brg, who may or may not ignore
        them.  the basic idea is: weather berkeley,ca
        the old version is in /csua/bin/weather.old

**/** Regularly politburo meetings are 5-6pm, 1st and 3rd Tuesday of every
      month in the CS Undergraduate Lounge in 337 Soda Hall.  --Jon

      The next CSUA meeting, 21 Nov 2000, is a GENERAL MEETING.  -lye

11/12    What is the purpose of the program called mor in /csua/bin?
         ---ranga

11/9    In the CSUA, which do you think will have the more popular support?
        Communist Party?  Hippy Party?  The Gun-Toting, NRA Party?
        \_ Party at yermom's house

11/7    Someone please tell me the story of Xchoi? who is achoi? bchoi?
        Why are they famous? Finger shows user not found. Squished?  -freshy

11/3    Support yer CSUA gals! Support Lila Patton and vote on
        <DEAD>www.amiahotbabe.com!!!<DEAD>
        \_ ew.
           \_ to the site or to Lila?
              \_ To each his/her own.
        \_ is that you, kchang?
        \_ "unable to locate the server <DEAD>www.amiahotbabe.com"<DEAD>
        \_ do you mean http://amihotornot.com?

10/19   One might think that a CS group at Berkeley could come up with a
        more advanced system of discourse than editing, without locks,
        a shared text file.
        \_ wall y, bumfuck.
        \_ It works.  Don't like it?  Use that genius of yours to find a better
           solution while still maintaining optional anonymity.
           \_ Perhaps we can make it a pseudo-device, that allows only serialized
              access to the file.
        \_ oh please. CSUA != CS, CSUA != XCF, CSUA == sys admin
           \_ fuck off. that's so 20th century.
        \_ Anonymity is key, boy!  As well as elegance!  World-writable
           motd's are very elegant.
        \_ hi marco

10/11   InterVideo is hiring SW Engineers.  /csua/pub/jobs/InterVideo
        \_ Do we have to hack rewt and chmod the permissions as part
           of the qualifying process?
        \_ -rw-------  1 chug  csua  3028 Oct 11 17:20 InterVideo

10/6    Readline enabled wallall in /csua/bin/wallall-rl. Bugs to mogul.

10/6    Readline enabled wallall in /csua/bin/wallall-rl.

10/6    Readline enabled wallall in /csua/bin/wallall-rl. man readline for
        details.  Mail root to let them know how much you want this to be the
        default.  Bugs to mogul.  -mogul

09/30 NOTICE:  EXPECT SIGNIFICANT SODA DOWNTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
      A meteor the size of an apartment building is expected to land on
      Soda Hall in the near future.  Life as we know it will cease to
      exist, and you will no longer be able to wall.  You have been warned.
        \_ but walling is our life?
        \_ Are backups up to date?

09/30 NOTICE:  EXPECT SIGNIFICANT SODA DOWNTIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE.  Due to
      all the recent crashes, we'll be moving to MkVI as soon as possible.
      An exact time and date have not been set for the transition, but due
      to the accellerated timetable, it may not be announced very far in
      advance.  /csua/tmp will not be saved.  You have been warned.  -mikeh

2/29    Way cool jobs.  See /csua/pub/jobs/webMethods
        \_ So.  What's so cool about working there again?  Do they do
           interesting things?  Or is all this free-snackage supposed
           to distract us from the fact that the company does boring shit?
            \_ you mean B2Bi isn't major excitement?
                \_ get over yourself
           \_ I'll ignore the fact that you are just trying to bait me and
              answer the question seriously.  The cool thing about working
              at webMethods is that the people here are really positive and
              have lives outside of work.  The daily grind is somewhat
              better than most places, but it's mostly because of the
              people rather than the work. That said, webMethods is doing
              a lot of things that haven't been done before, rather than
              putting yet another shading on version 236.4 of some browser.
              If you want to know what things, try http://www.webmethods.com for
              a start and mail me for details if you are truly interested.
              We have done a good job of leaving the "whine about things
              but don't fix them" crowd behind when we left UCB.  -mel
              \_ "The daily grind is somewhat better..."  You need a better
                 job my friend.  I don't view my work as grind.  It is
                 both interesting and stimulating.  I look forward to
                 coming in to work.  All the fake smiling faces in
                 neighboring cubicles won't change the fact that you don't.
                \_ Loser.  Work != your life.  It just pays for it.
                   \_ Of course it's not.  I didn't say my life was boring.
                      Why should my work be?
                   \_ Actually my work is a large part of what I think
                      is interesting about my life.  If you can't envision
                      this, perhaps you should find more meaningful work
                      to do.  -blojo
                      \_ my work is play. I can't believe they just gave me
                         another $10K raise to have fun every day and learn
                         lots of cool stuff and have lots of toys to play with.
                         And i have great coworkers and we just took a 3 hour
                         lunch today to go to the movie theater.
                         \_ And?
                         \_ That was because everyone thought they deserved
                            a 3-hr lunchbreak because they've been putting
                            in > 70 hour weeks, right?
                            \_ I only work ~10am-7pm and mondo bennies.
                               Have not been in on a weekend, yet.
                               \_ Where is this?
                                  \_ Probably Cisco, Sun, HP or IBM.
                                     \_ You're right. How did you know? hahaha
                                        \_ Been there, done that. Will soon
                                           be doing it again. Small co recently
                                           bought by one of the big 4 mentioned
                                           above.
                                           \_ You sound very Bechtolsheim-ish
                                  \_ Italy

9/21    Stupid stuff expunged. I'm deeply worried about the kind of people
        we are letting on soda these days.

9/19    ECOMMERCE! Gotta love that csmajors email list
        /csua/tmp/email.txt

9/15    Is is true that once you start walling on soda you can only marry
        another CSUA'er?
        \_ Yes, just ask norby, tabloyd, ikiru, eric, sony, meyers,
           ERic, jsl, chris, ari...
           ERic, jsl, chris, ari, tom, cynthia...
        \_ Yes, just ask norby, tabloyd, shyguy, ivy, ikiru, eric, sony,
           \_ ari, are you circumsized?
           meyers, ERic, jsl, chris, ari, cdaveb, mikeh, tom, cynthia,
           adr, mel...
           meyers, ERic, jsl, chris, ari, cdaveb, ekim, tom, cynthia,
           dbushong, dawne, alanc, jenni, glass, chamm, marco, jyim,
           nevman, reeser, adr, mel...
           \_ Oh man... ERic & jsl?  sony & meyers?  Weren't they paired with
              other csua people before?  Just because you're in the CSUA
           \_ ari, are you circumsized? --chris
              doesn't mean you're obligated to keep dating other CSUA members.
                \_ only xtine has slept with more csua'ers than jsl has
                 \_ speak now or forever hold your peace
                   \_ "i put the 'grrr' in 'swinger,' baby!!!" --chris
        \_ jj are you worried?
                   \_ didn't anitac sleep with more men?
           \_ ari, are you circumsized?
              \_ he's jewish.  figure it out.
                   \_ how many and with who did she sleep?
           \_ I don't believe tom and cynthia are married.
                \_ They bought a house together - close enough, and as close
                 \_ speak now or forever hold your piss
                   as they're likely to get.
                \_ nor are sony/meyers or ERic/jsl, I believe.  -tom
                        \_ yet.  soon.
                   \_ nor are cdaveb and mikeh, god forbid
                      \_ I believe they _are_ married?  --chris
                                \_ mikeh != ekim
           \_ ari, are you circumsized? --chris
              \_ he's jewish.  figure it out.  --chris
           \_ mehlhaff's married?!  to whom?  --chris
                \_ note the list above is conveniently paired
                   \_ so shyguy and ivy finally tied the knot?
                 \_ speak now or forever hold your penis
             \_ yer mom
           \_ who is ikiru? not some tall svelte brunette from the old days?
                                \_ yes, her.
              \_ wow.  you are a newbie.  she's an oldtimer csua female.  i
                 don't suppose you know who vctoria is, either then.
                 \_ How come the name is different on finger ikiru@soda?
                    Ah, must be changed for marriage. Too long for
                    hyphenation. I see now. And remind me, who is vctoria?
                        \_ i is for ikiru, Euphrasia Lavette Alzena Guri
                                 Scientia Ventura Ikiru; and then
                           j is for more ikiru, Alvera Ganbatte Gelasia
                                 Curvilinearjky... van Bezooijen
        \_ *name removed*  are you worried?
             \_ Nah;  man, if I had to marry anyone else in soda I'd
                shoot myself first.
        \_ No.  It isn't.  -walled on soda before but not married to csuaer.
                                \_ Are you married to non-csua'er?  If not,
                                   doesn't count.
                                   \_ I am married to a non-csua, non-berkeley
                                      person and I used to wall a lot.  College
                                      romance didn't work for me.
           \_  have you set a date, mehlhaff and jsl?  or is this some sort
               of fake engagement?

9/15    Please please clean up yer shit in /csua/tmp.  -John
              \_ is /csua/tmp same as /tmp? Do both get cleared upon reboot?
                \_ no, it's not, and no, it doesn't.  And soda's only been
                   up 9 days.  -tom
        \_ why don't u just reboot the machine. It's only TEMP.
           \_ but that would ruin the uptime. we all know how UNIX folks
              are so concerned about uptime.
              \_ is /csua/tmp same as /tmp? Do both get cleared upon reboot?
                \_ no, it's not, and no, it doesn't.  And soda's only been
                   up 9 days.  -tom

9/8     Shouldnt there be a Trevor Buckingham entry in the CSUA
        Encyclopedia by now?
        \_ There's a Trevor entry in the Playboy encyclopedia. Something
           like loser, reject, etc...
        \_ where can i read the CSUA encyclopedia? --chris
           \_ www.csua then click "CSUA Encyclopedia"... or go here:
              http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~appel/csua.html
              Note: No info on Trevor... what gives?
              \_ The encyclopaedia and be-boys do not lend themselves
                 to cohabitation.

9/6     Anyone recommend a good place to learn kung-fu in berkeley?
        \_ Call 'the operator' and ask Tank to download you a couple
           of good Kung Fu programs.
           \_ I know kung fu!
              \_ Show me.
        \_ Join the WuShu club at the RSF. williamc
        \_ do you want to train in kung fu, or just some martial art?
           \_ kung fu.
              \_ You've watched the matrix one to many times.
                \_ Or not enough if he hasn't mastered the moves from seeing
                   the movie.  Professional stuntmen.  Do not attempt this
                   at home.
           \_ I am CAIN I will help you.
        \_ Soda hall at project time.  -John

8/31    clean up job postings in /usr/local/csua/pub/jobs/ please -- some
        of the content in there is 3 years old!
        \_ I'd like to remove /usr/lcoal/csua/pub/jobs/Geoworks/, but all the
           files have been owned by root for a long time.  -- yuen

12/20   Any ideas on the ratio of CS v. non-CS members of the CSUA?
        \_ If you're a CS emphasis EECS, consider yourself CS too.
        \_ I'm a non-CS member. I guess that's one. williamc
        \_ CS           2
        \_ CS           1
        \_ CS           3
        \_ CS           4
        \_ non-CS       1
        \_ non-CS       5
        \_ non-CS       7
           \_ That makes up all but 5 people in EECS.
        \_ CS           6
        \_ non-CS       6
        \_ alumni - isn't important     3
        \_ CS           69
        \_ non-CS       61
        \_ alumni - isn't important     4
        \_ Any ideas on the ratio of U v. non-U members of the csUa?
                \_ does it matter? membership and rules are as arbitrary
                   as whatever the politburo members say it is. If the
                   world's run by politburo members it'd be worse than
                   \_ your verbs don't agree here.
                   the Democratic + Republican party.
           \_ I would say soda is mostly alum.
              \_ correctamundo!   -- bitter alum
                \_ Bitter that you're an alum or bitter that you're no longer
                   a student or bitter about life when you were a student?
                \_ Yes. =)
        \_ What is the radio of lonely sodans to non-lonely sodans?
        \_ non-CS       0
        \_ alumni - isn't important     1
        \_ alumni - isn't important     2

8/21    csua Top 20 of 2882 Total Search Strings
        #1 491 5.34%    panties
                        \_ thank you lolly. we needed that traffic.
        #3 104 1.13%    catfight
        #8 44  0.48%    dork

8/8     Soda time is off by 9 minutes.  Is anyone going correct it?
        \_ there's only 3 people with root now.
                \_ does that mean less arbitrary happy squishage?
                   \_ no.
        \_ No.  Time is relative.  Nothing needs correcting.
                \_ Then it's relatively wrong.
        \_ "Time be time, mon."
                        \_ Sometimes.

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      See also: /csua/pub/jobs & /csua/pub/housing & /csua/pub/recruiting

Regularly scheduled politburo meetings are 5-6pm, 1st and 3rd Tuesday of
every month in the CS Undergraduate Lounge in 337 Soda Hall.  --Jon

The next CSUA meeting, 21 Nov 2000, is a GENERAL MEETING.  -lye

The uncensored messages below this line may not reflect opinions of the CSUA.

7/27    Want a good job?  Got clue?  /csua/pub/jobs/ActiveSoftware-developers

7/21    What Sodans have started their own companies?
        \_ I started several porn sites.  Do those count as "companies"?
                \_ If you attempted to make money, yes.
        \_ Sameer has started several (c2 most notably), and blojo has
           bolt-action.  Ari & twaung started one once, don't know if it's
           still around.  Oh, and for real old timers, there's bbehlen of
           http://collab.net fame.
        \_ If you mean "people in Soda Hall", there's Brewer, Stonebraker,
           Rowe, McCanne, and a couple other professors as well.
           \_ What else has Sameer started? I heard he was on the cover
              of the French Economist about a week ago.
                \_ He's currently got a consulting business going
        \_ Didn't someone say something about dans getting funding? And I heard
           that yaroslav (xcf, not csua?) just got $2M in the bank.
                                \_ yaroslav was a CSUA officer for a semester
        \_ Spencer & genehkan started one recently didn't they?
           \_ Even dans lacks sufficient mush to start his own company.
                \_ Mush?  I need mush to start a company?
        \_ Spencer & genehkan: http://www.onlinephotolab.com
        \_ Didn't nweaver start an "Amway business"?
                \_ Would you care to buy some soap and also join the amway
                   sales family without which your retirement is in doubt?

7/14    Its been a while since my UCB days.  Out of curiosity, what
p       are the most popular dorms students want to be in?
        \_ 343 soda
           \_ is that like WEB or 260 Evans? -- pre-Soda geek.
                \_ 238 Evans
                   \_ yermom's guest house
        \_ that's only for cs dorks.  typically, foothill, unit 3,
           and clark kerr (for people with cars) are the desired
           spots                           \_ Ride bike!  I did.
           spots
           \_ Jeez, you lazy schmuk. I used to walk from clark kerr,
             until I rode bike. -- grouchy oldtime sodan
                \_ well, it was also fucking expensive and FAR, so there...
                      -- he who walked alot in berkeley
                \_ Moron, there are other places to go besides driving to
                   campus from the dorms.  Life as a student is not just
                   "wake up, go to lecture, eat, go to sleep, repeat".
                   \_ of course not.  There's also the hacking on random
                      things.
                      \_ and chasing after chicks.
                         \_ and masturbating
           \_ What's with all the complaining i hear from recent grads about
              clark-kerr being "far"? Man, back in the 1980s, people were
              happy to be in Dwight-Derby (it's old name?) and nobody
              complained. Sheesh. Wimps. -- mid-1980s eecs major
           \_ fuck dorms, just live in a Student Group Office like
              vadim does in the XCF - well (former XCF)
                \_ XCF must die! - recent /. headline
        \_ Evans. -wnj

6/28    Does CSUA still accept donations for hardware and so forth?
        If so please email me info, thanks   -- stevie
        \_ donations@csua

4/65    A couple of new IT positions available at NSSB in
        /csua/pub/jobs/NikkoSalomonSmithBarney or
        http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~yumin/nssb
        Also to answer those of you who asked if an IT person can become a
        trader, one IT has become an equity junior trader in June.  --yumin
        \_ One out of how many?

6/2     Um, could people please delete their crap in /csua/tmp so the rest of us
        can use it (it's nearly full).
209952 -rw-r--r--   1 ausman    csua      107424768 Apr 21 18:38 dkdemo.exe
 99664 -rw-r--r--   1 yulius    csua       50985272 Feb 24 12:15 x620wnt.exe
 50896 -rw-r--r--   1 marc      csua       26031487 Mar 11  1999 menace_480.mov
 21792 -rw-r--r--   1 blojo     csua       11146549 Jun 16  1999 darkstar.zip
        \_noooked -ausman
 99664 -rw-r--r--   1 yulius    csua       50985272 Feb 24 12:15 x620wnt.exe
 50896 -rw-r--r--   1 marc      csua       26031487 Mar 11  1999 menace_480.mov
        \_ unknown actor will play across Natalie In SW:EPII
 21792 -rw-r--r--   1 blojo     csua       11146549 Jun 16  1999 darkstar.zip

5/30    Are the city engineers in Berkeley stupid?

        Why is it that the large streets (like University Ave. and
        parts of Telegraph) have their traffic lights timed to be
        red more often than green while the smaller streets that
        intersect them are green longer than red?
        \_ if you were so smart, you'd avoid driving on University and
           Telegraph near the campus and College and the other "big"
           streets
           \_ Even idiots don't drive near campus.  I'm talking about
              right after Jack in the Crack (small street before
              Alcatraz) and the 24 on/off ramp (no big surface streets
              intersecting them).
              \_ That would be Oakland, yes no?
        \_ People who drive or walk on the smallers streets have their
           rights too! -opressed smaller street walker
        \_ They must be. How else can you explain the repaving of Hearst
           east of Oxford after 10 years of disrepair and then promptly
           beginning to tear it up again?
            \_ that's the university doing infrastructure shite, not the city
           \_ No no, you mean every 2 years when city council elections
              come up.
           \_ how about the widening of the sidewalk on Center St. by campus
              a few years ago -- how long did that take? 6 months?
        \_ Duh.  Welcome to Berkeley.  It's *intentional*.  They _want_ to
           make it harder for drivers in Berkeley.  Duh, duh, duh.
           \_ Pshaw.  That implies that there's anything even remotely
               coherent in their 'planning'.  I think blatant stupidity
               applied in the most shortsighted manner possible is closer
               to the mark.
                \_ Go to a city planning meeting.  They spell it out in plain
                   English.  Car drivers are evil and must be punished.  I
                   wouldn't bother to make this up.  When in Berkeley, you
                   should never attribute stupidity when evil will suffice.
                   You're talking about a place that wants to turn a bunch of
                   dilapidated structures (not enough left to call them
                   'buildings' anymore) into historic landmarks, thus keeping
                   prime real estate from being turned into job making
                   businesses and screwing the owners. It's Berkeley. Wake up.
        \_ Man, everything related to the city of berkeley just sucks.
           Why was rent control removed? when demand is greater than supply
                \_ Because Pete Wilson outlawed rent control statewide.
                   Berkeley fought tooth-and-nail, but can't escape state law.
                   Get a clue you fucking whiner.
           rent control is good for the tenants. parking stinks, i think
           everyone w/ a car has paid at least 200 in parking tickets
          (me much more). Who here has parked at soda and gotten massive
           tickets?? Where do they expect people to park to go lab?
           \_ walk to lab, you fucking shithead.  know how much i paid
              in tickets in 4 years at cal?  nothing.  go back to LA
              and drive around with the rest of the auto-worshiping
              shitheads.
                \_ you probably live close enough to walk. not everyone
                    lives within walking distance. think b4 you speak
                \_ Ride Bike? Suck me bitch.
           This is the only city where they seem like they make life hard
           for the students, the non-students that generally make up the
           population of berkeley seem to want to make it hard for students
           to have proper accomodations... And how come we still have
           peoples park??? we need another unit... not a drugged&homeless
           gathering center. <sigh>
           \_ uh, rent control went away because vacancy rent control was
           \_ WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!????
           \_ can't we all just get along?

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5/24    CSUA skydive - with jor and lila.  ~jor/skydive for details
        \_  Can I pack your parachutes, please?
                \_ I've packed lila a few times.  Her chutes always open
                   perfectly.

5/23    Update the life file, you wusses! /csua/pub/life
        \_ Where's that secret point come from?
           \_ You have to guess the identity of the life god.
              \_ What is the identity of the life god?
                 \_ It's a secret.
                    \_ Would you mind telling it to me?
                 \_ Sean Welch.
                        \_ Oh, it is not.  Just stop that.

5/18    http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~tpc/grrls
        Is this proper on CSUA?
        \_ doesn't seem to be violating any ucb rules. i'm not offended by it.
        \_ yes! thank you!
                \_ i fucking hate dorky ass girls.  how bout more pics
                of brooke berry buckingham williams/whatever ==ham.
                \_ Possibly some copyright violation, but who's the owner?
                   So who knows?

05/02 Your Summer/Fall 2000 Politburo: Pres. paolo, VP mikeh, Sec. lye,
      Treas. ajani, Librarian twohey.

05/02 CSUA Fall 2000 Election Results:

                     President:  Paolo Soto (paolo)
                Vice-President:  Mike Howard (mikeh)
                     Secretary:  Eli Bingham (lye)
                     Treasurer:  Bem Ajani Jones-Bey (ajani)
                     Librarian:  Paul Twohey (twohey)

4/25    Sysadmin position at Cacheon, see /csua/pub/jobs/cacheon.sysadmin

4/20    The csua bat as you have never seen it before:
        http://teen.erosvillage.com/xxxteensluts/sample/9/6.jpg
        \_ someone has a serious vegetable fetish.

03/23   Upcoming CSUA Event:
        TOMORROW - Thursday April 13 - 5:30 PM - 306 Soda - Ian Goldberg
        A Pseudonymous Communications Infrastructure for the Internet
        Ian will discuss protocols for allowing anonymous and pseudonymous
        use of any IP-based service. The protocols he will be discussing are
        the basis of Zero-Knowledge Systems' Freedom

4/10    Clean up /csua/tmp please:
        \_ Do you mean clean it up, clean it up, or, *ahem* clean it up?
           \_ I meant remove your crap^H^H^H^HI mean delete large files so that
              it isn't full anymore.
        127215760 aaron Mar 28 01:50 scat_comp_1.mpg
        \_ This shit (no pun intended) is nasty
        \_Doah!
          \_ I'm a doamfuck!
        52124643 chucky Nov 15 00:50 q3DemoTEST.exe
        \_ aaron likes asian chic
                \_ don't all ucb white guys like asian chicks?
                    \_ don't all straight ucb guys like asian chicks?
                        \_ I prefer Indian chix myself - asian guy
                           \_ Since when is India not in Asia?
                      \_ someone beat me to the extra adjective -aspo
        50985272 yulius Feb 24 12:15 x620wnt.exe
        26064748 aubie  Jan 28  1999 sw.mov
        26031487 marc   Mar 11  1999 menace_480.mov

4/9     Room for Rent beginning of June, Downtown Berkeley $475
        more /csua/pub/housing/tpc

03/23   Upcoming CSUA Events:
        Tuesday April 11 - 5:30 PM - 306 Soda - CSUA General Meeting #2
        Phil Lapsley will be the guest speaker.  He will be speaking about
        patents: what they are, why you should know about them, how to read
        a patent, how to apply for one, and whether Amazon's 1-Click Patent
        is the worst thing to happen to the industry since Microsoft or just
        a natural step in the evolution of patent law.

        Thursday April 13 - 5:30 PM - 306 Soda - Ian Goldberg
        A Pseudonymous Communications Infrastructure for the Internet
        Ian will discuss protocols for allowing anonymous and pseudonymous
        use of any IP-based service. The protocols he will be discussing are
        the basis of Zero-Knowledge Systems' Freedom

3/21    Politburo Meeting Tonight, 5:00 PM in 343/337 Soda (The rooms are
        across the hall from each other).  Yeah it's in the motd.official,
        but just in case you missed it. -dans
        \_ No, I don't see it in motd.official.
           -rw-rw-r--  1 root  motd  894 Mar 14 00:53 /etc/motd.official
           \_ --==< Politburo Meetings: Tuesdays, 5:00pm, 337 Soda. >==--
              Perhaps you should have your vision checked.
        \_ politburo = nasty geek politics
           \_ politburo == nasty geek politics
        \_ Foo!

3/20    I want to read the mail that gets delivered to csua@csua, but I
        don't want to be on the mailing list.  Is there a solution?
        \_ AFAIK, no.  It shows up in the wall log, but I think mails
           to lwall get clipped to a certain length.  Why not just use
           procmail to store it somewhere other than your inbox until
           you read it, then you can nuke it. -dans
           \_ Yeah, or maybe I can use procmail to save the last month's
              csua@csua e-mails in /csua/tmp so that everyone can read them.
              Or has someone done this already?
                \_ ~danh/csua-mail .  enjoy.

3/16    Clean your pr0n out of /csua/tmp
        \_ Fuck, now where am I gonna keep my Jenna pictures?
           \_ Who's Jenna?
                \_ if you have to ask...
                        \_ Guh-duh!  leik if you have to ask you don't know!
                           Guh-har!  Thats leik s0 clev0r!111 d00de!11
                           \_ Hi paolo!
       \_ whoa...there's porn in the tmp directory...i'm there   =)

3/14    Job posting for http://guru.com, /csua/jobs/guru.com - posted for friend. Thx.
        \_ permissions fixed. sorry.
                \_ well, no, they're not fixed, and you gave the wrong path...
           \_ ahem
-rw-------  1 jowens  csua  2268 Mar 15 16:58 /csua/pub/jobs/guru.com

3/13   Sysadmin, engineering and other jobs from Planetweb posted in
       /csua/pub/jobs/Planetweb        -cdaveb

3/14    http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/~benchan/entreprise/CYBERARMS.html
        \_ Is commerce allowed on CSUA?
           \_ No.
              \_ but this is eCommerce!  It's downright unamerican not
                 to encourage eCommerce!
        \_ Squish!

3/13    Tournament Challenge on http://espn.com: "CSUA" group created.

3/8     Network/system admininistration related jobs at Cal Performances.
        See: /csua/pub/jobs/calperfs
        \_ it's art, it's gay, it's THUON CHEN!
                \_Its crack, its a whore, it's $5, its your mom.
                  I'll give you a good ass reaming and turn you out
                  quick, motherfucker.  -sky
                  \_ Oh sky!  I love when you talk dirty!  Please ream my
                     queer ass now!  Then I'll suck your queer dick and we
                     can get married!

3.3.00  The secretary's band is playing lower sproul at noon on mar 3rd.
        To hear what they sound like, /tmp/howsYourHero.mp3 - I'll take
        it off in a day or so.
        \_ Any more where that came from?
           \_ actually yes, email sexy@csua for further requests (i don't
              want to fill up /tmp/
              \_ mr secretary should know that he ought to put this
                 in /csua/tmp, not /tmp.  bad secretary.
                 \_ ok it's in /csua/tmp/howsYourHero.mp3
              \_ Mr SOTO should know not to imply that the CSUA endorses
                 his activities
              \_ Mr paolo soto should use paolo@CSUA.

10/7    Rake in some greenbacks by designing a Quake level.
        See /usr/local/csua/jobs/bolt-action.

02/20   Next CSUA General Meeting: Thursday February 24, 5:30 PM 306 Soda
        We'll have a panel of Berkeley alums who currently work for startups
        talking about their experiences, plus pizza from Little Chicago.
        This week's regularly scheduled Politburo meeting is cancelled.

2/17    i know the asuc requires we let them into the csua, but can't we
        at least deny soda accounts to annoying bigotted assholes?
        \_ Is someone actually applying? if not, stop trolling and go back
           to your 100k/yr+options sysadmin job. tjb has gotten boring.
        \_ And who defines "bigoted?"  Lil ol' level-headed you?

2/17    Octane Software is hiring, more details at /csua/pub/jobs/Octane

2/17    Looks like someone from Trilogy is going through all of the CSUA
        web pages looking for people's resume.
        \_ Isn't that why they're there online?
         \_ Some of the recruiters are even smart enough to realize the
            resumes might be out of date.  -oj
                \_ Don't leave a resume online without a date on it or better
                   yet, keep your online resume updated.  Not their fault.
        \_ Smart recruiters are rarer than ethical politicians.

2/17    Position available at Abeona, see /csua/pub/jobs/Abeona for details

2/14    Do we have the CSUA Book of Records? Like # of walls / day, #
        of squishes in a CSUA lifetime, etc?
        \_ Normally I'd just delete something like this but I felt the need
           to say, "Who cares?  Don't you have something better to do?"
           \_ no                                        sys adm at company X

2/9     Why does it seem like there are a disproportionate number of sys adms
        in csua?
        \_ Informal poll of cs related jobs:

        CSUA Code Monkey:  2
        CSUA Programmer:   1
        CSUA Sys Admin:    1
        CSUA Code Monkey:  3
        CSUA monkey who does not code: 1
        CSUA Sys Admin:    2
        \_ The sysadmins have more free time to goof off on wall/motd.  Coders
           are always under pressure to make the next deadline, fix the next
           bug.
           \_ Uh, aren't we generalizing just a tad? -- CSUA Coder
                \_ No.
                    \_ Idiot.
                        \_ sysadmin.
                           \_ That hurts!
                                \_ Shut up all of you.  Babbling fools.

2/3     CSUA Engineer Job Title poll:
           \_ Current or previous jobs?
        1       CTO
                \_ heh. kinney gave me the title, tho somehow i don't think
                it means what he thinks it means - paolo
        0       VP Eng
        0       Architect
        1       Sr Software Eng
        1       Software Eng
                \_ someone removed my 1!
                   \_ no, mine!
        2       Various Sysadmin
        0       Random Title
        1       Herder of Cats
        1       Member of Tech Staff
                \_ What exactly is an MTS (Member of Tech Staff)
                        \_ Whatever you want it to be - here it includes
                           programmers, sys admins, release engineers, etc.
        2       Tech Support Engineer
        1       Gopher
        1       Programmer/Analyst (go UC employees!)
                \_ Slaves to the Man.  Half the pay for 3/4ths the work.
        1       Blowjob boy
        1       Pascal Princess
        1       Web monkey

2/2     Inktomi is coming (back) to Berkeley.  We will be at
        Brewed Awakening (1807 Euclid) on Thursday, February 3rd, from 4 PM to
        7 PM.  Drop by and speak with a hiring manager about a possible job
        internship with Inktomi.
        More info in /csua/pub/jobs/Inktomi.new
        -kube

2/2     Let's say David Cash and/or Trever apply for a CSUA account. Can we
        deny them?
        \_ Why would we? We like good entertainment, no?
        \_ Woo.  Be careful there.  Back in the days when I joined CSUA,
           the officers give you a lecture about "apply for a CSUA
           account".
        \_ In short, no.  In long: why would you care?  They violate any
           policies and they get squished like other idiots before them.  If
           they don't who cares?

12/07   Return OVERDUE CSUA library books to 343 Soda, ASAP!  --librarian

12/09   "got mips?" t-shirts!  See dans or visit the CSUA office.  $10

**/**      --==< Politburo Meetings: Tuesdays, 5:00pm, 337 Soda. >==--

2/1     female northside aptspace avail: /csua/pub/housing/northside2-1-2000

1/29    Vote for your favourite CSUA male:
        phillip         2
        lila            1
        \_ is this because i talk about my penis so much?  -lila
           \_ there you go again
        kane            5
        tom             1
        elm             1
        psb!            1       - psb #1 fan
                                \_ You are *not* the --psb #1 Fan  --psb #1 Fan
        Fuzzy Bunny     1080388899039883710298775773838102-3@782898.30923$3!!!
        !psb            100

1/29    Vote for your favorite CSUA female:
        -lila           1.6
        -reeser         42
        -chris          -10 * i
        -kchang         port 6667
        -kiersten       1
        -ahm            1
        -jkoh           1
        -sony           3
        -tjb            1 for each professor who wants hot gay sex with tjb
        -alissa         1

1/29    Vote for your favorite CSUA male:
        phillip         2
        lila            1
        kane            5
        tom             1
        elm             1
        psb!            1       - psb #1 fan
        !psb            100
        \_ is this because i talk about my penis so much?  -lila
        kane            5
        tom             1
        elm             1
        psb!            1       - psb #1 fan
        !psb            100

1/27    My favorite job hunting web site is:
        http://dice.com        0
        http://monster.com     1
        http://vfc.com         0
        careermosaic    0
        http://bayareacareers.com 1
        /csua/jobs      -14
        P.S. http://jobs.com really sucks
        careerpath      1

1/24    Does anyone know what's up with the CSUA room?  The key isn't in
        the combonation lock, so I can't get in.  Help please?
        \_ Mail politburo
         \_ Someone stole it. -politburo
                \_ The politburo must wield the bat to secure it's return.

12/21   Next Politburo Meeting: 1700, Tuesday Feb 1. 337/343 soda.
        Meetings will be held at the same time and place every week thereafter
        unless otherwise noted.

1/17    /csua/pub/housing/northside.claret.sp2000
        Rooms right across from Soda Hall (no, NOT Etcheverry, and NOT
        Cloyne); urgent opening

1/11    What was the matter with Soda yesterday?  'Twas quite laggy.
        \_ The whole net seemed laggy to me.
        \_ I was playing q3arena-x11 on soda.  Sorry.  Won't happen again.
        \_ traceroute showed the route going through UCLA.

1/7     I have a Alpha Station 4/166, but it appears that the powersupply
        is dead. Anyone know where I might be able to get one cheap?  I
        have already tried WierdStuff and Halted with no luck. I don't
        want to pay the support price for a Genuine Dec/Compaq one either.

        Alternately, if any of the current CSUA officers think that they
        can get it fixed, I wouldn't mind donating it.
          \_ try http://www.computersurplusoutlet.com
               they have a 300W one that I think fits the bill, search
               for "alpha".   -nick

1/6     /csua/pub/jobs/InfiniteMachine

1/5     A friend of mine at work wanted an URL to place a job offer for
        some java dev and I could only tell him /csua/jobs.  Is there
        something online for those w/out csua membership?
        \_ mailto:jobs@csua.berkeley.edu

12/31   Great soda crashes.  Anyone have a history of it?  I think the
        last major one was in 1995?
        \_ 1992. Soda Mark I died when some moron left the grounding cable
           for the internal tape drive hanging loose and it landed on the
           motherboard causing a nasty short circuit and frying the mb.
           On the bright side, the downtime resulted in the acquisition of
           Mark II, the first of the mighty Sequents.
           \_ A moment of silence, please.

12/21   does /csua/tmp gets cleaned whenever soda reboots?  Or via a cron
        job? How do we get some of these huge (and quite old) files off the
        system?
        \_ It gets cleared when it fills and someone gets bored enough to mail
           all the people who've forgotten they left their crap there.  But,
           since there's plenty of space there now, why do you care?
           \_ Some people just are curious. And just because there's plenty
              of space now doesn't mean there always will be.
                \_ an issue that will be delt with when it is the case
           \_ Sloppy sysadmining due to "lots of space" is no excuse.  A cron
              job that wipes files older than X days is trivial.  I care
              because this raises questions about how soda is admin'd in other
              ways.  I don't keep anything important here but soda itself is.
              \_ you are a moron. --aaron
                \_ actually a cron job that wipes files older than X days
                   that isn't a massive security hole is far from trivial -tom
                   \_ are you talking about linking files like /etc/passwd
                      into some link in /tmp?
                    \_ chown nobody:nobody /csua/tmp and run cron job as nobody.
                        \_ there are subdirectories.  chowning them all is
                           not really an option (and has its own security
                           problems).  -tom
                \_ Uh huh.  Because I'm not sloppy?  No one would sign something
                   that stupid.  You can't be aaron.
                   \_ This just proves it even more --pld
                \_ You're missing the point of /csua/tmp - stuff is supposed
                   to stay there longer than a couple of days, as long as
                   everyone plays nicely.
               \_  Having a cron job to wipe files older than X days is just
                   going to make the /csua/tmp diskhosers set up cron jobs to
                   touch their files every X-1 days.  It's a stupid idea. -ERic
                   \_ tom can easily figure out how to do it perfectly.
                     \_ tom already pointed out that it is difficult to do
                        properly.  get a clue.

12/18   It is Friday night. I am drunk. yay CSUA. yay motd.

12/8    Are there any more CSUA "got mips?" T-shirts, like Dan was showing
        off at the general meeting? --Galen
        \_  Yes, last time I looked.  I think there about 20+ left.  --PeterM
        \_ They would have sold much better if the words "Undergrad assoc."
           were left OUT of the back.  I.e.: front says: Got Mips? and the
           back SHOULD've said: Berkeley Computer Science.  It's all about
           marketing the product.
           back SHOULD've said: Berkeley Computer Science. Someone needs to
           take a marketing class. =P
        \_ Thank you Mr. Anonymous Marketing coward.  We'll be sure to consult
           the motd for your advice before producing any future t-shirts.  If
           we wanted CS department t-shirts, we'd make CS department t-shirts.
           Seeing as these are CSUA shirts, it makes sense that they say CSUA.
           -dans
        \_ who should we be contacting if we want to buy a shirt?  -oj
           \_ contact dans@csua, alternatively, you can come by
              the office (343 soda) and buy one. - paolo

12/07   Return your OVERDUE CSUA library books asap to 343 Soda! Don't
        make me HUNT YOU DOWN! --librarian

12/3    www.csua/library/patrons.txt.old
        Return your CSUA library books!  Overdue books from 1995?
        Sheesh.  That's really inconsiderate to the other members.
        \_ I know in my case (and probably lots of other people's)
           I returned those books and just forgot to cross off my name
                                -aspo
                \_ Sure, sure....

12/2    Is the politburo on crack?  a 3PM meeting?  what the hell?
        cassandra.
        \_ What's wrong with a 3PM meeting?

11/20   Proposed letter: "Dear Mr. Buckingham - we in the CSUA have
        noticed your extremely adept use of the english language and
        the usenet forum.  We would like to invite you to join
        the CSUA, so that you can impart your wisdom directly to us
        on our highly esteemed public forum, the motd.  Please stop
        by XXX Soda, and take advantage of this honor."
        \_ Yes!  I simply must have more Wisdom From Da H00d!
        \_ Oh no. Another kchang??
        \_ you guys are giving this guy way too much mind share

11/17   /csua/tmp/soda.paradise.txt
        Fresh from the walls of 2nd floor labs; typed in for the benefit of
        CSUA expatriates
        \_ This was amusing and fits in quite well with the thread below about
           Berkeley not being about learning.  I wouldn't have put it in terms
           of gang banging, but what the hell, why not?
           \_ truth in advertising: unfortunately, the file has nothing
              to do with group sex.

11/14   Is it against the rules to leave a process(/cron job) on Soda
        running that, say, checks a web page every minute and if it
        changes mails me?
        \_ webwatch!
           \_  URL?
        \_ Why run it on soda?  Why in cron?

soda> ls -l | sort +4rn | head
-rw-------  1 rajah     csua    20938280 Nov 10 03:52 rajah
-rw-------  1 wyman     mail    20505460 Nov  5 19:59 wyman
-rw-------  1 tchow     mail    10122127 Nov 10 01:09 tchow
-rw-------  1 tchuang   csua     8463426 Nov 10 02:43 tchuang
-rw-------  1 norby     mail     8379308 Nov 10 04:15 norby
-rw-------  1 muchandr  csua     7536055 Nov 10 00:00 muchandr
-rw-------  1 jose      mail     7512177 Nov 10 01:51 jose
-rw-------  1 toddlee   mail     7249283 Nov  9 18:25 toddlee
-rw-------  1 lila      mail     7248484 Nov 10 04:15 lila
-rw-------  1 akyan     mail     7016131 Nov 10 03:04 akyan
soda> df /var/mail
Filesystem  512-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/da0e      2540480  2337248       -6   100%    /var/mail

Clean up your mail spools people! sheesh! you'd think soda was your
personal hard drive or something! it's not like it's hard, just scp
it or ftp it somewhere else!

11/1    CSUA Shuttle Pieces.  Appropriate CSUA funds for new CSUA relics:
        <DEAD>cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190410340<DEAD>
                \_ "Item invalid." is the auction already over?
                \_ auction halted: http://www.msnbc.com/news/330070.asp?cp1=1

11/02   Next Politburo Meeting: Monday November 15, 5:30 PM - 337 Soda

10/24   Congratulations, Christine and Ari! Just Married!
        \_ Lotsa CSUA couples getting married lately. Must be the economy
        \_ Wow, one of the MANY CSUA couples getting married this year.
                \_ Who else?  Everyone else who was engaged at the same
                   time as those two was married long ago.
        \_ and about time in this case.
        \_ so how many times have they been "married" now?
           \_ officially once; ceremonially once. is it any more complicated?
            \_ yes, christine "look at me" lee has announced this marriage
               at least four times.  -tom
                \_ look at her?  uhm.. no.
        \_ good economy, 1999/2000 hype, marriage, kids, car, mortgage.
           Welcome to the world of typical working class.

10/23   Opportunities in SoCal for computer saavy people with Library
        interest/experience (the kind with books in it, not the kind you
        link into a program): see /csua/pub/jobs/RiversideLibrary  --dbushong
        \_ Uh, MS in Library Science? You gotta be kidding...
                \_ No.  MS in LS in hardcore.  I'm *sure* _you_ couldn't earn
                   one.  LS isn't about the Dewey Decimal system BS you learned
                   in 1st grade.
                        \_ No one is putting down MS in LS - but I doubt you'll
                           find anyone on soda other than cynthia  who has one
                           and I doubt she wants to move to riverside after
                           just buying a house up here.
                \_ College of Engineering is superior over ANY college in
                   Berkeley. ENGINEERING REWLS, YOU ALL SUCK!!!
                        \_ And knowledge of English is obviously not required
                                to get into Engineering.
                           \_ knowledge of english is overrated --pld
                           \_ Fuck English, speak PERL!
                                \_ Me fresh off boat make big engineer bucks,
                                   go back China make China strong, beat evil
                                   America into dirt!
                        \_ If "Engineering is superior over ANY college in
                           Berkeley" then is it "superior over" (love that
                           grammar) itself or has it seceded from the
                           University and moved out of Berkeley?  You make
                           no sense.

10/20   Happy Poll: Should Tom be squished for making Tom look foolish?
        Yes: 0
        No: 0
        \_ No, because if Tom is squished, who else would I pick on for fun
           and amusement?  He's such an easy cheap-shot victim.  I'd miss him.

**/**   Clean up /csua/tmp. Clean up /var/mail. Clean up your home directory.

  UNAUTHENTICATED, UNCENSORED, SSSSSMOKIN' PUBLIC MESSAGES BELOW THIS LINE
  [ See also: /csua/pub/jobs & /csua/pub/housing & /csua/pub/recruiting ]

10/04 Next Politburo Meeting: 6PM Monday October 18, 1999

10/04 There will be a CSUA Politburo meeting this Thursday, 5pm.
      CS Undergraduate Lounge, Third Floor Soda Hall.

9/24    CSUA meeting @ Gold Club in SF.  Bring small bills.
        \_ but yermom wanted something bigger than a five.
         \_ small meaning 20's.

9/21    Does biff work on soda?  I tried it but it didn't work.
        \_ try /csua/bin/philbiff -lots
           \_ Don't forget the -mchammer option!
        \_ biff is broken and/or obsolete on most Unix machines - it assumes
           too much that is no longer true.  Use newmail instead.
           \_ philbiff is much better than 'newmail'

09/13 Those of you who are hogging more than your fair share of space in
      /csua/tmp, clean up your junk.  You know who you are.  -root

09/12 Politburo Meeting, Monday, September 13th, 1999, 7pm.  337 Soda.

9/10    Politburo meeting.  Christ quit spamming my email!  I am a rich
        alumni who uses his soda account to maintain touch only with friends,
        aside from a few minor inconveniences with ssh, i don't really give
        a damn what the current politburo does.  It doesn't affect me, nor
        should it affect anyone with a real life.  Jeez.  What's the big deal
        anyway?

9.10    CVS Help Session tonight.  306 Soda, 6:30 pm. ASUC Sponsored and
        Wheelchair Accessible.

9/8     lwall censorship: oh dear god, grow up, who cares?  this is so
        incredibly stupid.  this is one of the better politburo's the csua
        has seen and you want them to resign over some stupid crap about
        your moron buddy getting his hand slapped for being an ass?  go away.
                -never been on politburo because doesn't want to deal with
                 selfish morons like you
        \_ This is strictly a censorship issue.  Is it in the best interest
           of the CSUA to censor an individual based strictly on that
           person's opinions?  Without notify any interested parties?
           If you have an opinion on this issue, I urge you to show up
           at the politburo meeting this Monday.  -- nickkral
           person's opinions?  Without notify any interested parties that
           such an action was going to take place?  If you have an opinion
           on this issue, I urge you to show up at the politburo meeting
           this Monday.  -- nickkral
           \_ well, it's more like he's already squished
              -- nickkral
        \_ Let democracy work its course.  If someone can drum up enough
           support to override politburo (yeah right, as if kchang has
           that many friends left), let them.  Otherwise shut the heck up.
           \_ The politburo should ensure that public CSUA resources are
              made available without fear of censorship or root punishment.
              Arbritrary censorship actions by the politburo damage
              \_ well, it's more like he's already squished
              the CSUA in the long term.  -- nickkral
        \_ kchang must be laughing at the ruckus he's causing.
           \_ kchang wrote me and said he is happy at the ruckus
              he is causing

9/7     Starting 1992, politburo is the CSUA god. Worship politburo now.
        \_ why 1992?
                \_ Soda was founded in 1992?
                   \_ Soda is a machine, not something that would be "founded".
                       Soda Mk. I went online in 1989 (Happy 10th birthday
                       to soda & the OCF BTW).  The CSUA is almost 30 years
                       old.
                        \_ How about soda as 128.32.43.52?
                                \_ 1994 - when we moved to soda hall.
           \_ tom was on politburo in 1992

9/6     I have lists of student ID numbers I want to verify.  Does Berkeley
        have some kind of service that lets me do this on a regular basis.
        (How does CSUA check SID against names or can someone just fill out
        a fake account form)?
        \_ http://regssl.berkeley.edu --jon