10/18	For the memory-challenged individual below, who stated that there were
 	no Davis/recall/Ah-nold flamewars on the motd:
        http://csua.com/?q=recall+davis
	http://csua.com/?q=recall+arnold
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9/29    This has probably been covered already, but what is the prevailing
        rationale, if any, on the part of recall proponents as to why this
        recall is merited? Considering that we anyway have elections every
        4 years, Davis won, and the stuff ppl complain about is no different
        than what they complained about before the election? And does anyone
        doubt that if he gets recalled, the replacement will also get recalled?
	\_ no, you're right, it's dumb, it sucks that the rest of
	   us have to suffer due to a quirk in the law, and it sucks
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	   \_ a quirk in the law?  the recall isn't a technicality.
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	   \_ so when democrats decide to try to recall a republican govorner
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		 for the recall.  If it was only politics, that wouldn't be the
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	      \_ You *might* buy enough signatures to start a recall against
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		 sigs to start a recall with step 2 where we all get to vote.
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	   just icing on the recall cake.  Davis is dead.  Unless someone gets
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10/7	http://www.recallarnold.us/
	Collecting links to all the sites popping up all over the place
	that are starting to push for The Next Logical Step. -alexf
	\_ It would be political suicide for the Democrats to start a recall
	   on Arnold.  Not only would it be difficult to get enough signatures,
	   but it would *never* pass the general vote and the party would be
	   *brutally* punished in 2004.  As a conservative I can only hope that
	   the leftist go for it.  They might as well just shoot themselves now
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	   motion.  *PLEASE* try to recall Arnold.  I'd love to see the Dem
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	\_ The recall is only a mockery of the political process when
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		   recall loophole for good (that is, raise the 12% barrier
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		   \_ Arnold got 47.7% (91% reporting) out of a field of
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			 How many people would've chosen Davis over Arnold?
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			    Yes on recall was a Yes on Arnold.  Gray was
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			\_ dumb fuck, a no on recall is a vote for Davis
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10/1    Let's say Davis gets recalled and some republican, presumabley Arnie,
        gets elected.  Then some democrates get together and decide to have
	a recall in a couple months.  they succeed, beating arnie with some
	wildly popular democrat celebrity.  This pisses off the republicans,
	who then stage another recall and take over with an even more amazing
	republican celebrity, etc. etc. etc.  when does it stop?  doesn't
	anyone see this as a bad direction to go in, even if you hate davis
	and happen to like one of the potential replacements?  In civilised
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	\_ It stops when Arnold takes over because the people won't do another
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	\_ You make it sound like its easy to get a recall election ceritifed.
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10/3    Does McClintock have a chance now?  I think (hope) Davis will still
        be recalled.  Perhaps the Democrat-controlled legislature will
        prevent any wacky pro-life or tax cuts for the rich moves.  Does
	anyone think there will be reliable poll data released before
	Tuesday?
	\_ No because the people have seen through the LA Times' sleazy
	   last second hatchet job.  I'm still voting for Tom anyway.
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	\_ Because of Arnold's confession yesterday (I'm sorry I got caught) I
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	   they finally endorsed Arnold, then the LA Times showed he was such
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	   I am still voting for the recall, but was trying to decide
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		 recall, I don't think CA is better off with any these
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		 \_ Actually, while I'm against the recall on principle,
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		    liberal candidate.  If another recall would make him
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10/8	Women supported Arnold (and other demographic trivia):
	http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/07/recall.exit/index.html
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10/6	I just got a robocall from a leftist org claiming to be a republican
	org telling me to vote no on recall and no on the race measure and
	ragging on Arnold.  The only thing missing was an appeal to vote for
	Cruz.  "I is a raypooblikan and i is so dum i is votan fa Cruz!"
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9/14    http://moveon.org/pac/recall/register/
        Absentee ballot registration for the October special election.
        There will be far fewer polls open than you're used to, so signing
        up for a mail-in vote is a Good Thing.  Applications must be rec'd
        by September 30. -- mjm
        \_ yeah, it's from an unbiased site.
		\_ Who cares.  Everyone with an axe to grind registers
		   absentee voters.  That doesn't mean you are obliged to
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              to get my No on Davis, Yes on Arnold forms through them.  It's
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              \_ The recall only needs a simple majority.  But if the recall
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10/31	Remember all those rosy estimates about how much it would
	cost to rebuild Iraq from the White House? Remember how many
	on the motd said that $200B and 10 years was wildly too high?
	Who turned out to be right?
	http://csua.org/u/4v5
	\_ Of course the Marshall plan cost over $1 Trillion.  And that gave us
	   France and Germany.  Oh well.
	   \_ BZZT thanks for playing anyway.  The Marshall Plan allowed the
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	\_ Yawn.  I don't recall seeing $200b and 10 years on the motd and
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	   Vietnam quagmire and we'll never beat them and how the CA recall
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11/15	California budget head calls deficit 'staggering'
	http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2003/11/15/rtr1149508.html
	Recall Arnold, bring back Davis!!!
	\_ good link.  yeah we need 4 more years of davis to reach that
	   $62b budget gap. bring back davis. im finding a new state.
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10/3	I'm thinking of voting for McClintock now.  Can you give a somewhat
	moderate republican reasons not to?  Go wild, I'll decide what I agree
	with and what I don't.
	\_ I'm not a conservative, but it seems to me that this is analogous
	   to the quandry facing a liberal in the 2000 presidential election.
	   you could vote for the guy who stands for something but has
	   no chance of winning(nader/mclintock) or the guy who might actually
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	   win(gore/arnold).  I can think of no other reason for anyone
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	   and watch the whole thing.  if you look at how arnold talks about
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              again to elect Arnold.  Vote for the one with most experience!
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	\_ Look, Arnold has a lot of independents and moderates, they are not
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	   numbers and percentages about what should go to what.  Arnold
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	       on what Bill Clinton did and Arnold also did (granted Arnold
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	   governor. I'm opposed in principle to this recall election. I don't
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	   recall and yes on Arnie. I'd prefer McClintock over Arnie but I feel
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	   \_ The only advantage I see for Arnold as Gov. (as a conservative)
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              their guns and field no candidate in case the recall went
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                 to vote "no on recall, yes on busty". But the only way Busty
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		    having a Dem in the running, should the recall go
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		    it's Arnold vs. whoever the Dems run; if the Dems run
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		    beat Arnie if the recall goes through, right?  Running
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                       on recall aren't enough, but are enough to get most
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           recall and yes on Arnie. I'd prefer McClintock over Arnie but I feel
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                       vote yes on recall and vote for Cruz.
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10/7	And Arnold wins it.  The humiliating spectacle that is the United
	States continues its great march forward!  By the way, Davis sucks
	ass too, California would have been fucked no matter what happened.
	Bah to the whole thing, BAH I say.  Silver lining is that everyone
	seems to have seen right through Ward Connerly's idiotic Prop 54.
	\_ how does Gary Coleman get 1900 votes?
        \_ It does appear that a bunch of Latino voters voted for recall/Cruz
	\_ People go to the polls in record numbers to vote and this is a
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10/8    if Bustamante didn't run , Gray Davis would still be Governor.
	\_ yeah, cuz moron democrats couldn't figure out a no on recal is a yes
	   vote for Gray Davis
	   \_ What the poster is saying that the yes on recall and bustamante
              votes were very likely no votes if he hadn't run.
	\_ ^did^had
	\_ That is by far the 2nd dumbbest thing I have heard about this
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	   election. More people voted for Arnold, with 134 other
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	\_ If McClintock doesn't run, Arnold wins by an even bigger landslide
	... total 10 lines ...

11/25	First Arnold campaign promise broken:
	Aug. 20:
	"SCHWARZENEGGER: Now, does this mean we're going to make cuts? Yes.
	Does this mean education is on the table? No."
	Now:
	"Education would absorb $160 million in cuts this year and next under
	the proposal Schwarzenegger presented to legislative leaders Monday."
	http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/1125califbudget-ON.html
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	\_ RECALL!
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9/28    What is worst in life?
          To crush your lead in the polls
	  to see it driven before you
	  and to hear the lamentation of your advisors and handlers
	\_ And just who are you talking? Even Democratic polls have
	   the recall in the bag and Arnold leading.
	   \_ I was confused by this, too, so I decided it was best to just
	      ignore it.  That which does not kill you, makes you stronger!
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3/3	Bush is going to win California.. hahahahhaha:
	http://csua.org/u/69o
	\_ Uhm, this state used to vote heavily (R).  Nothing says it can't
	   switch back.  The (D) take too many people for granted.
	\_ Schwarzenegger is a democrat fool
	\_ California won't forgive Bush for Enron.  CA as a battleground is
	   a pipe dream.
	   \_ It's March, don't start making predictions until August, fool.
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	      would've thought that the recall would work and Arnie would
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	      \_ Bush will win California when monkeys fly out of Arnold's ass.
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10/7    Remember when you're in the voting booth today: it will be your
        fault afterwards if everything gets more fucked up.  A vote against
        the recall means more of the same.  A vote for Cruz means more of
        the same x10.  A vote for Arnold is a vote for gridlock.  If you
        really want to change the course of CA, then you have to start at
        the top and do it for real.  This goes double for you jobless or
        underemployed people.  The welfare state never created a job for
        anyone.
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	      faux conservative-lite like Arnold.  If I can't get the real
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9/14	Federal appeals court delays recall!
	All I can say is: HAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHA!
	\_ Cool, all I can say is, 6 more months of incompetent non-leadership
	   from the lame duck governor who is going to continue his standard
	   pandering and mass sell out of the general population in an effort
	   to buy more illegal alien votes.  Whoop-di-doo.  So glad to live
	   in CA.  If you weren't a student, you'd care more.
	   \_ "Illegal alien votes"? Troll.
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	   \_ Do you really think the recall would have passed?
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		 incompetent and criminal boob.  Thus he needs to go.  Arnold
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              the next planned vote. The recall advanced that schedule by six
	... total 130 lines ...

10/6	Just think: tomorrow, regardless of the outcome, the greatest source
	of stupid trolls in the history of the motd will be at an end.  Praise
	Jesus!
	\_ You say that just months before the 04 election cycle begins.
           \_ Not too worried about that.  Everyone on here knows Bush is
	      a twink, except for one freeper that no one listens to anyway.
		    \_ everyone knows?  troll harder.
	\_ ^Jesus^Allah and Mohammed his Prophet^.
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	   -we-need-a-do-over thing and the various Dem attempts to recall
	... total 23 lines ...

10/7	Gray gave a very nice speech.  He's clearly not going to be leaving
	politics.  Also, exit polls gave Tom a 53% positive rating across all
	voters.  I hope he runs against Boxer.
	\_ This is a punch in the stomach of state democrats. I hope they
	   learned their lesson. In the meantime, Go Arnold!
	   \_ Yeah, it was a punch in the stomach 3 years ago when Bush won.
	      Boy, did I learn my lesson because today America is much
	      better than it was 3 years ago, right?
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			  Recall, I will gladly admit that I am happy to
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		       extra smart because the majority voted against recall?
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6/7	Hey, latimes.com has a neat Flash map where you can click on states
	to assign electoral votes to Bush/Kerry.  It looks like if Kerry loses
	Florida, he won't have a chance.  If he wins Florida, he can't lose
	too many battleground states.  Click on the map on the bottom right.
	It plays music when you hit 270 votes, though, so turn off your sound.
	I actually got it to 269-269, and something interesting pops up.
	\_ Ah, Florida, where election reform has gone... nowhere.
	   \_ Sure it has!  The Florida legislature banned recounts!  Oh...
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	      \_ They said the recall campaign would never get enough names.
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		 do win, it won't be Arnold, he's an actor, a Nazi, and not
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                             Deukmejian, Pete Wilson twice, and Arnold govs.
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				Arnold is a liberal, married to a Kennedy.
	... total 113 lines ...

10/1	Informal CSUA voting.  Please vote only once (don't be a hozer).
	Recall Davis
	Yes: .................................................................
	     .................................................................
	     .................
	No: ...........
	     \_ I like how the number of No votes changed from 5 to 9 votes
	        in the space of two minutes ... hoser.
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              satisfied as well when he says it will be "Governor Arnold,
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              \_ Ok. Well, I'll actually vote No on recall and Yes on Arnie.
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						  in Arnold's powers.  Fair
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						  Arnold's effectiveness is
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						  be subject to a recall of his
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						  series of tit for tat recalls.
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				It's not that I think Arnold will do a better
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				that Davis has (see earlier post).  Arnold
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				   as Governor Arnold looks sort of
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                                \_ Arnold has demonstrated even more cowardice!
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				      had their chance.  Arnold just had to
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        \_ I predict that Arnold will win and the first thing he will have
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10/2	I'm not a big fan of Ah-nold. However, Angelides hasn't wowed me at
	all. Is this because the Governator's campaign is strong or because
	there's really just nothing there to Angelides? Please, give me some
	reason to want to vote for this guy other than "He's not Ah-nold."
	\_ Ah-nold is a Socialist, Angelides is a Communist.
	\_ Angelides has no chance, it is sad.
	\_ What's wrong with Arnold? My impression is he actually got
	   a lot done, other than his occasional sexist/insensitive
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                 public treasury" and bowing to unions. As for Arnold, he may
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		    think Arnold would have won a republican primary in
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		    Arnold got to avoid the california GOP primary.
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                 \_ I thought that in the recall election debates, the two
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10/1	Oh gawd.  Check latimes.com for an Arnold expose on his treatment
	of women.  I still might vote for him, though, as bad as it is.
	\_ Don't be a hater.
	\_ *laugh*  If it was ok for Bill Clinton, if it was ok for the entire
	   Kennedy clan, then I say it's ok for Arnold!
           \_ Wow.  You have no idea what 'consent' means, do you?  I pity
	      your SO.
	      \_ Reading problem?  Don't they teach basic reading comprehension
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           \_ For Clinton, it was consensual.  For Arnold, that's sexual
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              Schwarzenegger's rivals in the recall race. And none of the
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		    new examples of Arnold's bad behavior.  As for the timing,
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9/25	I missed the debates and the rebroadcast was so late I fell asleep
	before it started.  Vote for who you think presented the best plan
	to restore California's economy and job situation:
        Arianna:  "Bush is bad!"
        Arnold:   "Bring business baaack."
        Cruz:     "I am so ashamed."
        Peter:    "Free Manifestos for all!"
        Tom:      "Keep your bloody gubmint hands off my money!"
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	   I'm voting Yes on Recall, and I'll be voting for, between Arnold
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	   gloating over the failed recall and then going back to business as
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           \_ I disagree.  We got to see Arnold wasn't a complete buffoon,
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                 \_ Arnold didn't show himself to be a "complete" buffoon.
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                 for her vindictive attacks against Arnold. She really brought
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                 to the table in order to try to destroy Arnold. She failed
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                 and the hallways of sacramento. Arnold held his own against
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9/15	Anyone know a good introductory programming book based on Java?
	My high school CS teacher had a bunch of newbie programmers
	stuck in her intermediate Java class, and she's at her wit's end
	trying to find good materials suitable for beginners. Thx. -anirvan
	\_ Arnold & Gosling - The Java Programming Language.  I thought it
	   was pretty good.  You can't get much simpler than that.  It's
	   also the official book on java.  If they're HS students make
	   them suffer and teach them scheme.
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					   any interest but I recall him
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2/17    So this is the end of Kerry since the primary reason people were
        voting for him was his 'ability to beat Bush'.  Here's the link:
        http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Presidential_Tracking_Poll.htm
        The nation is finally coming to it's senses.  Putting up a dog like
        Kerry for such a lame reason made no more sense than the (R) putting
        up Dole in 96 "because it was his turn".  Voters don't give a man "his
        turn" anymore than they will accept a man because he's has nothing more
        going for him than a claimed ability to beat the opposition.  In fact,
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	   and fiscal like Arnold doesn't make him a Republican either.
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	   winning the recall election.
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7/18	http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/09/29/novak.cia/
	http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20031001.shtml
	Above is the original CNN.com story and Novak's follow-up column from
	two years ago.
	If we assume that Rove, Libby, et al. are all innocent, it would appear
	that the main people to blame are Novak and his unofficial CIA source.
	Novak said, "According to a confidential source at the CIA, Mrs. Wilson
	was an analyst, not a spy, not a covert operative and not in charge of
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	      training recall her proficiency with foreign languages and an
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			     reporters to dig dirt on Arnold during the recall.
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				who voted for Arnold anyway
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					 Arnold's faults but not Davis' at the
	... total 268 lines ...

2/27    I don't live in California anymore, and it's dissapeared from the
        headlines...What's the deal with Arnie?  Has he improved the fiscal
	situation?  done anything else useful?
	\_ Of course not.  The main thing he's done is claim that allowing
	   gay marriage in SF will cause civil unrest.
	   \_Gay marriage in SF doesn't work, the state doesn't recognize
	     gay marriage. If you don't like it, either change the laws
	     in Sac. or secede from California. I don't really give a
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	   and some choose not to?  Not Arnold, not Davis, not Bush, not
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	   office wouldn't be enough time anyway.  I didn't vote for Arnold
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		 \_ Since the Recall put the blame for all of California's
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2/16	California is truly f'd for sure this time.  Can we find another pair
	of stupid radio DJs to start a drive to recall Arnold?
	http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/us/17cali.html?_r=3&hp
	\_ It will only help if we get a governor with a spine, and get rid of
	   the incompetent legislature.
	   \_ How do you expect that we will get a decent ledge?  With the 2/3rd
	      requirement to pass a budget and ridiculous gerrymandering
	   \_ How do you expect that we will get a decent ledge?  With the
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11/4	New Poll Shows Majority of Americans Support Impeachment;
	ImpeachPAC is Launched to Support Pro-Impeachment Candidates
	By a margin of 53% to 42%, Americans want Congress to impeach
	President Bush if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a
	new poll commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a grassroots
	coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President
	Bush's decision to invade Iraq in 2003.
	The poll was conducted by Zogby International, the highly-regarded
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	      recall election on Dubya, complete with Arnold Schwarzenegger,
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