2/17	Any recommendations for a decent digital point and shoot?
	\_ The SD300 is a great little camera. I just bought one in Dec and
	   it's done a great job. Canon also just announced the SD400 and
	   SD500 as well. -shac
        \_ Canon S500, totally love it
	\_ Canon SD10 or 20 (as simple as it gets, and girls go gaga over it).
           \_ These don't have optical zoom.  SD300 does, and is still pretty
              compact.
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        \_ How much larger is a Canon S60/S70 than an S500? I haven't seen any
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10/23	I am probably going to retutn my D90 until they fix all the problems
	in the next D90x version. I can't believe they released D90 is
	such a beta-ish state. Don't get me wrong. I love the improved
	highlight enhancement algorithm (that already existed on Canon over
	a year ago) that Nikon calls Active D-Lighting. White balance is
	much much better indoors. But a lot of other stuff really sucks!
	1) In Live Mode, there is no Live Histogram! This feature would have
	allowed metering on AI-S lenses in real time. This feature already
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	exists on Canon's cheapo XSi (sub $600, Nikon D40x equivalent) a year
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	Canon 40D, it just lets the shutter go through, resulting in faster
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	Canon XSi allows me to do that.
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	   switch to Canon.
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	      I love Canon's 24-70mm and Nikkor 105mm macro, I guess I'll
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		 I don't know about XSi, but I know for sure that Canon 5D
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		    switch to Canon. There's a reason why everyone's switching
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		    how much Canon and Nikon cameras are being rented for.
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		    priced. Even a really cheap Rebel XT is rented for $75
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		    go wrong with Canon. Back in the 70s and 80s Nikon was
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		    switching to Canon now, but you'll thank me for it many
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		    Canon lens adaptor we've been using for a while. However
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4/21	I'm looking for a good zoom lens for my 300D (Digital Rebel). Any
	recommendations as to which Canon EF-S (or other brands) to consider?
	How about buying a used lens from craigslist? tia.
	\_ stick with Canon lenses.  use ebay for used lenses.
				     \- ebay has been a boon for sellers
					not buyers on things like lenses.
					might be ok for filters.
					often things in good cond
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	   what zoom do you want?  Digital Rebel has a 1.6x cropping factor
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	\_ Tamron lenses are a good alternative to canon lenses, and
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10/12	Is it my imagination or camera lens prices have gone up slightly
	on Amazon? I've been shopping and some of the lenses I want to
	get have gone up in price. What the hell is going on? I thought
	electronics are suppose to get cheaper, not more expensive.
	\_ I don't know if prices wet up to down.  But unlike a camera body, a
	   big part of a lens is the glass elements which don't have much to do
	   with electronics.
	   \- it could be affected by USD-JPY exchange rates. french cheese
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	\_ my take is following: blame Canon.  and I mean it.
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	   Some of technique Canon used includes:
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		1) The common people for flocking to Canon, who are seduced
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		   market that allowed Canon to take over professional SLR
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	     Canon 70-200mm f/4 lens.  Optically, it performs on par with the
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2/20    I'm looking to take up photography.  I'd like a cheap beginner 35mm
        SLR camera.  I've heard Canon and Nikon were good.  Any rec for a
        budget of under $250?  Willing to get used.  Just don't know where
        to start.
	\- why do you want to shoot film? --psb
	   \_ No matter how fancy you can get with digital, it's still
	      more flexible, challenging, and rewarding to take
	      pics with film. Especially if you eventually learn to
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	         tends to be a little more expensive than canon
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                    currently have a digital camera(Canon S230) for just
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                    of the brands (Canon or Nikon) series is good if I want
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                          Canon Rebel TI from Costco, which came with a
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		       Again, Nikon N55/N75 or almost any of the Canon
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	\_ it's hard to go wrong with Canon or Nikon.  What about a Canon
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           \_ I can't remember which model of Rebel Costco has, but they
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8/23	Canon EOS 400D:
	http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/9685/canon_eos_400d/
	I'm glad I skipped the 350D/20D/30D.
	\_ And I'm sure you'll skip this one, too, for the upcoming 450D.
	   Sheesh.  I got my 350D for $500 after rebate.  No complaints.
	   Spent shit load on lenses, which will continue to be compatible.
	   \_ I had a 300D w/ several lenses and I kept putting off an
	   \_ I have a 300D w/ several lenses and I kept putting off an
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	\_ Official name is the Rebel XTi:
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                 I like Nikon and Sony's lens selection better than Canon
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3/28    Hey motd -- I was looking to buy a decent quality starter digital
        camera without spending too much money.  Eventually I'd like to move
        up to something really nice, but at the start I'd just like decent
        quality, affordable equipment that can easily download to my
        win2k machine.  Can anyone offer any advice/suggestions/warnings?
        TIA.           -mice
        ps.  Thanks everyone for answering the mp3/audio question I asked!
        \_ I'd wait for slickdeals to post a deal on the SD400/500/550.
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	\_ http://www.dpreview.com .  I really like my Canon Digital Ixus SD500
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	\_ If you want to get a DSLR, I'd look for a used Digital Rebel on
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	   Otherwise I'd go w/ one of those little Canon cameras, whichever
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           (or not) that Canon but I don't think you can go far wrong. The
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	      \- $500 is under the SLR threashold. get a decent compact canon.
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	   *LOUSY* pictures.  Canon "A" series is decent as it has manual
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12/22   There hasn't been a camera thread in a bit. I'm lazy, can someone help
        me decide that a dig SLR is better for me than a "prosumer" one,
        and if so that the Canon dig. rebel at $770 after rebate is the best
        deal? It appears to be $500 less than a Nikon D70.
	\- the +$800 non SLR digitals are for rich morons --psb
        and if so that the Canon dig. rebel at $770 after rebate is the best
        deal? It appears to be $500 less than a Nikon D70.
	\_ It really depends what you want to use it for.  I think for most
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         \_ yea I was comparing basic kits. the canon body is $670. So is the
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                  Canon kit with similar specs ends up $500 less than the
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                  Canon camera. Are the lenses different in just "general
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	   you want: Canon, Nikon, Sigma, Pentax.  All of them are pretty good.
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	   shutter speed as well.  Canon Digital Rebel combines apature and
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	\_ I would go with the Canon 300D (Digital Rebel). Not only is it
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	   The other big advantage I find is that Canon lenses are cheaper
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	   you could always get yourself a Canon "L" series lens (generally
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		    \- the canon 20d vs d70 is a serious question if you
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		       for the 300d would be large investment in canon lenses
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              on lenses bought with the drebel. I have a hard time determining
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              http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/page14.asp
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1/27	Anyone have a recommendation for a decent digital SLR camera?
	A colleague told me about a decent Nikon (D2H) but the lenses
	seem to be pretty expensive.  I've also had a Canon (10D, 30D, 60D)
	but I saw an article a while back about blurry color quality
	around the edges of digital SLR pix, or is that dependent on
	the lens?  -John
	\_ Canon Digital Rebel...under $1k with lens.
	   \_ seconded
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	   for choosing a SLR of any kind.  Canon and Nikon and all other
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	   include Nikon, Fuji, and Kodak).  If you have Canon lenses, then,
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	   about the same price as Canon's Digital Rebel.
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	      \_ digital Rebel is about 1000 USD.  I've bought lenses,
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	         \_ do you have a Nikon?  Canon?
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		       like that.  Canon is much successful commercialy, but
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		   the digital rebel!
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		   The Digital Rebel is a much better deal.
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		   was RELUCTANT to recommend Digital Rebel at first place.)
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9/24	I was thinking about buying a Canon EF 28-135 IS lens, but
	I just noticed that it is sold out in several places (bhphoto,
	adorama). Does anyone know if there is a new model on the
	way? If so, I'm wondering if I should hold off for a little
	while.
	\_ you sure you want that lens? at that focal length, IS is not
	   really necessary.  You might as well go for something that
	   has bigger maximum apature.
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	   \_ I have a digital rebel.
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6/21	For those with SLRs: Do you also have a small digital camera?
	If so, how often do you use the smaller camera?
	\_ I got a 4 megapixel camera for my wife for snapshots of our
	   son.  I never use it.  When I want quick pictures I just use
	   a 50mm or 20mm lens on my D60.  -meyers
        \_ I still carry around the Canon S230 I had before my SLR for
           snapshots, but usually end up letting someone else use it while
           I use my SLR.
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	      like a Canon S230
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	   actual subject at hand.  Carrying a Digital Rebel would interfere
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5/4	Which Canon dSLR should I buy?
	\_ The cheapest one you can get away with, and the most expensive
	   glass you can afford. Camera body depreciates 1/2 every 18-24
	   months. Plastic kit lenses depreciate at about 15-20% each
	   year till they're worthless in about 3-5 years. Good glass
	   (constant f/2.8 and below) hardly ever depreciate, and some
	   actually go up in value.
	   \_ This general rule is good for film SLR, where the film is not
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		 all APS-C competition with the Sony sensor. Many Canon 40D
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		 light capability (engineering trade-offs -- Canon opted for
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		 consumer end bodies. P.S. Canon used to win the DSLR sensor
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		 have been winning. I'm sure next few years, Canon will have
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		 Canon flouride coating is just marketing BS. Optical
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		 and Canon flouride coating is just marketing BS. Optical
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	\_ Why limit yourself to Canon?
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	   was crazy. This will likely mean you are picking from 2-3 Canon
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	   BTW, i would stick with canon if:
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	      Canon 1-series [high end pro bodies]. So you are likely looking
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	      \_ I have a huge 70-200mm f/2.8L IS body on a Rebel XS. I know
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		 \_ I'm shooting with a Rebel XSi; it's a totally capable
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		       both a DSLR and a Canon G10 (Lumix LX3 does a good job
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		       people out there. A Canon XSi on a bike is just too
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		       \_ Well, actually I use a Canon PowerShot S5 if I'm
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5/4     Um, so I asked the question yesterday about the Canon digital rebel
        and what problems people seem to say it has that prevents someone
        from moving beyond point-and-shoot yada yada. The kchang link reply
        wasn't helpful... anyone know what the deal is?
	\_ While we're on the topic, does anyone have a good article that
	   explains white balance. is this an issue only in digital or film
	   as well?
           \_ It's an issue in film development.
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	\_ user interface.  Digital Rebel has terriable user interface to
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		 Rebel is not designed to tinker with both without pushing
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		    canon f-1, if you can afford it. --psb
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	   the pro/near-pro photographers at work about which canon to get
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	   had a digital rebel which they used for personal photography
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	   Personally, I feel that the digital rebel is a great camera
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	   digital rebel). YMMV.
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6/9     Photo Enthusiasts.  I'm looking for a camera mainly for outdoors
        shots.  Camping, Hiking, Travel, etc.  I'm leaning towards the dSLR's.
        What do you think of Canon Eos Rebel (D300), D10, Nikon D70, and
        Olympus E-1.  I also hear rumors of a cheaper Olympus dSLR in the
        late summer.  The only consumer compacts I'm considering are the
        8 MP's, 8080, Powershot Pro1, etc., that have almost all the features
        of a dSLR.  Any thoughts on these cameras, or recommendations would
        be greatly appreciated.
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        \_ http://csua.com/?q=canon+rebel&sort=d
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        \_ Didn't I hear recently that there was some EOS Rebel hack that
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           http://www.bahneman.com/liem/photos/tricks/digital-rebel-tricks.html
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              look/feel/interface to canon. again, if you dont have a lens
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                    lens, and better flash technology.  Canon tend to have
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                    Canon is a better company,though.  Nikon's long-term
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                         dig. rebel compared to a reasonable alternative.
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           to the Nikon D70 over the Canon Digital Rebel. It gives it a
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11/7    looking for an entry level digital slr camera.  canon eos
	digital rebel xt with lens selling at $590 with shipping.
	good deal?  thanks!
	i am new to slr camera.  i just want to get something
	cheap to start with.  will the price come down for
	thanksgiving?
	\- my one piece of advice: for similarly priced camera [like
	   the entry level nikon dSLRs] rather than focusing on small
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	\_ Nikon D70 or or the Rebel XT.  If you can afford it, get the 400D
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	      \- BTW, the comparison to the Rebel 400 is the Nikon D80.
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		    to read it in 10years. canon RAW today isnt even canon RAW
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		    canon-RAW is the same across the whole product line. but
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8/5	I'm thinking of getting a serious SLR camera. Costco is selling
	a Canon SLR for $1299. Is that a decent SLR at a decent price?
	\_ If you don't know, you shouldn't be buying a $1300 camera.  -tom
	   \_ I agree with tom.  What do you need it for?  If you don't
	      know, it's obviously not _worth_ it.  If you do know, only you
	      can make that decision.  If you're wondering about price
	      comparison alone, go check out on-line sites, like buydig,
	      bhphotovideo, onecall, amazon, etc.  And it's a huge can of
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	      worms talking about DSLR.  Why Canon?  Did you check out
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              advantages I really like about the [123]0D series over dRebel
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              quality/feel.  (The feel of the shutter between the dRebel and
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	   Rebel XTi for around $700 w/ the 18-55 EF-S lens.
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		 w/ so few MP? You really need a Hasselblad H3D, a Canon
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	   you go with Canon, 17-35mm f/2.8 if you go with Nikon. Then, use
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					   more than x2 the Canon lens.
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			Canons have 1.6 (unless you go up to the full frame).
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			Canon 17mm x1.6 = 27.2mm
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			effectively. The Canon gets a tad more long end, but
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8/24    I've been thinking about getting a 2 GB Microdrive for my
        digital camera (Digital Rebel) so that I can start shooting
        pictures in RAW format. Has anyone used a microdrive for
        this purpose? If so, how well has it worked for you? tia.
        \_ microdrives are slow, and very unreliable compared with flash
           media.  you'll do better with multiple, smaller flash cards.  -tom
           \_ "seconded"
           \_ You can buy flash-based drives up to 4 gigs.
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                    on my Canon D60.  -meyers
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8/6     What picture resolution do you usually use for your digital camera
        and why? For sharing 1024x768 is more than sufficient, and I rarely
        go up to 2000x???? because I don't print posters
        \_ since i have a 1GB CF card, i take RAW pictures on my Canon, which
           is like 2276x1something. i send pix @ 800x600, which seems reasonable
          is like 2276x1something. i send pix @ 800x600, which seems reasonable
           enough.
        \_ I run my 21" desktop at 1280x1024 usually so never larger than that.
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        \_ I shoot fine jpg (3072x2048, 180 dpi) on my digital rebel. I
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        \_ I save my canon photo's in both raw format and hi-res jpeg.
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8/31	Does it make sense to buy a nice 70-200mm f/4L lens and mount it on a
	cheap Canon Rebel XSi with 12MP? I'd hate to upgrade the body
	because bodies get outdated quickly, and I don't care about how fast
	auto-focus is. I just care about image quality for non-sports pics. I'd
	love to have a sharper lens than my cheapo 55-250mm and don't care
	about the body, but I'm wondering if there are severe disadvantages
	for going with a consumer body + pro lens combo. Thanks.
	\_ There may be better lenses to consider depending on what your
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7/19    Motd Photo Experts: I'm thinking about getting a 28-105 F3.5-4.5
        USMII lens to replace the 18-55 lens that came with my Digital
        Rebel (http://tinyurl.com/yrctn for b&h link)
        I want a longer zoom (as opposed to wide angle) because I'm
        usually photographing birds and its hard to get close enough to
        get a good shot with the 18-55.
        Does anyone have this lens? Is it a good buy? tia.
        \_ I just bought one and know where to get another locally
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            \_ Thanks for the advice. My digital rebel came with the
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              it's not so good for Digital Rebel.  Further, OP is not a
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           lens that came with the rebel. If you have the $$$, I would recommend
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        \_ I'm not a Canon user.  Before you buy any telephoto lens for you
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