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2013/2/17-3/26 [Finance/Investment] UID:54607 Activity:nil
2/16    Stocks for the long run? Maybe not:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/ar8utns
        \_ um, ok, so what are better alternative investments?
           \_ Real Estate? Gold? Bonds? CDs?
              They all whooped stocks in the last decade.
              I believe in a balanced approach.
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