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4/3     Counter offer: don't do it!!!
    http://news.yahoo.com/why-shouldnt-counteroffer-133221049.html
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See latest photos Thinking about using a potential employer's job offer to get your current company to counter and pay you more money? Using another job offer as a bargaining chip may be tempting, but too often, it ends badly. Here's why: 1 Employers often make counteroffers in a moment of panic. ") But after the initial relief passes, you may find your relationship with your employer--and your standing with the company--has fundamentally changed. You're no longer part of the inner circle, and you might be at the top of the list if your company needs to make cutbacks in the future. other factors that drove you to look: personality fit, dislike of your boss, boredom with the work, lack of recognition, insane deadlines--whatever it might have been. Those factors aren't going change, and will likely start bothering you again as soon as the glow from your raise wears off. You needed to have one foot out the door to get paid the wage you wanted, and there's no reason to think that future salary increases will be any easier. The next time you want a raise, you might even be refused altogether on the grounds that "we just gave you that big increase when you were thinking about leaving." If you go all the way through their hiring process only to accept a counteroffer from your current employer, then the former is going to be wary of considering you in the future. If it's a company you'd like to work with, you might be shutting a door you'd rather keep open. Now, are there times where accepting a counteroffer makes sense and works out? But it's a bad idea frequently enough that you should be very, very cautious before doing so. Ask a Manager blog, where she dispenses advice on career, job search, and management issues. She's also the author of Managing to Change the World: The Nonprofit Leader's Guide to Getting Results and former chief of staff of a successful nonprofit organization, where she oversaw day-to-day staff management, hiring, firing, and employee development. Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney declares victory in the Wisconsin presidential primary at the Grain Exchange, Tuesday, April 3, 2012, in Milwaukee. Neighbors view what remains of a home in Arlington, Texas, Tuesday April 3, 2012. Tornadoes tore through the Dallas area Tuesday, peeling roofs off homes, tossing big-rig trucks into the air and leaving flattened tractor trailers strewn along highways and parking lots. shows the company's prototype flying car, dubbed the Transition, during its first flight. The vehicle has two seats, four wheels and wings that fold up so it can be driven like a car, and flew at 1,400 feet for eight minutes during the test. caldude1010101 o 8 days ago Yes, been there did that in my more foolish days. I got a small pay increase, but the company made my life hell. I ended up leaving for a better paying job about 6 months later anyway. Once you are ready to go, just deliver the 2 week notice, say nice things, and move on. MarcD o 8 days ago Basically, the current company can only view it as a form of extortion, so imagine how long your future will be secure with THAT. It's called "trying to hedge your bets," and THAT always turns out bad. There are a few things I have learned from handling this both from coaching & recruiting. It has worked out well for a large percent (of the small percent that were ripe for it). Dover, Delaware o 5 days ago As an executive recruiter with over a decade of experience, I have not yet heard of one instance where taking a counter offer was beneficial to one's career. Personally, I would not represent any candidate who has taken a counter offer in the past because of their proven indecisiveness. Cincinnati, Ohio o 8 days ago You never use another companies offer just for leverage with your current company. If you tell your employer, u have to already have it in your mind that you are leaving. That being said, i've received counteroffers twice (different companies) and accepted them with no backlash. fyi, I wasn't actively looking either time, I was approached by headhunters. cynthia o 4 days ago They are in the exploitation business. They exploit every employee for every man hour of labor they can suck out of them. I would rather bake cakes and sell them at the county fair, than work another corporate job. They pay you a living wage, just barely enough to keep you fed, clothed, and housed; but a full time corporate job leaves very little time to enjoy the fruits of your labor. I had invitations to socialize many nights of the week, and I always had to think; It got to the point where I only scheduled "me time" on the evenings when I did not have to work the next day. So, to sum it up, I would say this: you are earning a living, but are you really living? If you dropped dead on your shift, all they would do is walk right over you to hire your replacement. San Mateo, California o 5 days ago I disagree with this one size fits all advice. Everyone in your company including your boss has left for a better opportunity in the past. They understand that you've grown as an employee and are more valuable than you were in the past. If you handle it well, let them know that you would rather not leave but there is a compelling reason to, you can give them the chance to counter and bring things to where they should be. Even if you do leave, if you handle it well, you should be able to stay in touch with your past employer forever. I've had people call me months after I left to ask my advice on a situation. Whether you leave or not, always, ALWAYS take the high road. If there's a panic situation, tell them you would be willing to help them with whatever transition they need and follow through. Juneau, Alaska o 8 days ago Nothing wrong with having a job offer in you back pocket when you go to negotiate with your current employer, but I agree with the author: you shouldn't use it as a bargaining chip. Houston, Texas o 8 days ago It is called a job market for a reason: the market will determine the compensation that you should receive. It is unavoidable that you might receive offers even if you are not looking. As a matter of fact, it is very likely that you will get offers when you are not looking. If there is a sincere and transparent relationship with your employer you can make it work. If, on the other hand you are only using an offer to get more money, then you might deserve to get both doors closed. Do not be afraid to check what you are worth and discuss it with your employer. After all, if that is what you are worth, it is also a fact that the company is making a lot more. VictorY o 8 days ago This thing is a fine interplay of different factors and political skills. However, if you are not headhunted, you'll almost never get a raise.