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5/27    Pharamcist convicted of first-degree murder for shooting at armed
        robberers:
        http://www.csua.org/u/tfk (news.yahoo.com)
        What the f**k!!??
        \_ Shooting the robber and leaving him on the floor unconscious was
           obviously self-defense.  Calmly returning to the store afterwards
           and shooting the unconscious robber on the floor five more times,
           killing him?  That sounds like murder to me.
           \_ What's it like being a trustafarian/armchair lawyer?
           \_ One day your net will go down, and you'll have to leave your
              gated community.
           \_ First-degree murder is for killings that are premeditated, which
              shouldn't be applied to killing out of rage when one was
              ROBBED AT GUNPOINT.  Do you think the robberer would be
              convicted of first-degree murder if it was him shooting the
              pharmacist dead after the pharmacist pointed a gun at him but
              was shot and fell first?  I don't think so.  --- OP
        \_ This is pretty sad because I'd expect this bullcrap from CA not
           OK.
        \_ The case below further illustrates that the pharmacist in the case
           above did the right thing:
          http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110622/ap_on_re_us/us_pharmacy_shootings
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liz Goodwin - Fri May 27, 1:47 pm ET Yesterday, a jury rejected an Oklahoma pharmacist's plea that he was acting in self-defense when he killed a man in an attempted robbery, and sent him to prison for first-degree murder. to Tulsa World, two employees at Reliable Discount Pharmacy testified that Jerome Jay Ersland saved their lives and was a "hero" for shooting at the two masked robbers two years ago, killing one. But prosecutors played the store's surveillance video to argue that he was acting in cold-blood when he shot the 16-year-old masked robber, left the store to chase the other robber, returned, grabbed another gun, and then shot the unconscious man five more times. Report Abuse In the news today California accidently let 450 violent felons go free due to a computer glitch. The authorities are saying they will be waiting until they begin to commit crimes. Report Abuse As far as I'm concerned, the second these scumbags entered the store with guns is the second they gave up their right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness. The courts don't explain this power that a jury has to the jurors. Instead the judges tell the jurors they have to go by the letter of the law. If a juror thinks that a law is wrong, thet can vote to nullify that law. No juror can be punished for any verdict that they render no matter what the evidence is. Report Abuse I guess none of you got the memo - in this country the criminals have all the rights and the victims are the ones who have to defend themselves. Report Abuse You can't SEE what the downed masked robber was doing! Maybe he was moving to reach his gun again, you just can't see what actions might have prompted an additional gun response.
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Suffolk County police gather near the door of a house before escorting two people out of the house near a pharmacy where four people were shot to deat AP - Suffolk County police gather near the door of a house before escorting two people out of the house near ... By FRANK ELTMAN, Associated Press Frank Eltman, Associated Press - Wed Jun 22, 6:55 pm ET MEDFORD, NY - A 33-year-old man described by neighbors as polite and friendly was arrested Wednesday in connection with the deaths of four people who were shot at a pharmacy during a robbery for painkillers. David Laffer, who a few years ago proposed to his then-girlfriend at a New York Islanders hockey game, was led out of his brown and yellow ranch-style home in handcuffs Wednesday as neighbors watched. He was later arrested, said Jack Eddington, chairman of the Suffolk County Legislature's public safety committee. The charges against Laffer hadn't been announced as of late Wednesday afternoon, and it wasn't clear when he would be arraigned. He said nothing as he was led from police headquarters and was later hospitalized. His arrest capped a massive manhunt for the suspect, who was captured on surveillance footage as a tall, gaunt, bearded man wearing glasses, a white baseball cap and a hooded sweatshirt. The gunman was bent on stealing painkillers, officials said. About 30 to 40 officers converged on Laffer's Long Island home before he was brought out, said Peter Spano, who was working on the lawn next door. Authorities had no details on whether she faced charges. Spano said the thin, "distraught" man resembled the man in the surveillance photos, except without a beard. Friends and neighbors described Laffer as polite and said, if he had a drug problem, they did not see it. He lived at his family's home in Medford with his mother, Pam, and his wife, Melinda. According to their wedding announcement, Laffer and Melinda Brady Laffer met while they were out to dinner with mutual friends, and he proposed to her at an Islanders game. "To Melinda's complete surprise, he had been planning the engagement for more than a year and his proposal was shown on the large TV screens in the arena," according to the 2009 announcement. Next-door neighbor Trish Bohlert attended the wedding and said Laffer was always friendly. "Something must have made him snap, because his personality, I can't picture him robbing a store, much less hurt people," she said. Zaida Ayala, a longtime neighbor, said she had spoken to Laffer's mother Tuesday about the shooting. "You could give me a million dollars to pick somebody and he would be the last person I would've picked," she said. His Facebook page showed he was interested in weapons and science fiction. 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