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2/23    anyone following the HBGary/Palantir fiasco?
        \_ ArsTechnica: http://csua.org/u/sms
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Nate Anderson | Last updated February 24, 2011 11:40 PM Anonymous For Anonymous, the most obvious result of the hack was publicity, glorious publicity. The attack has been covered in every outlet from Ars to the BBC and back again, though the group was unbelievably lucky to stumble on a cache of e-mails involving dirty tricks against WikiLeaks and using intelligence assets against pro-union websites. Without those revelations, the hack and e-mail release might have looked far more self-interested--Anonymous protecting its mask. We spoke to people with knowledge of the initial Anonymous hack. All have denied the existence of continuing operations against HBGary and note that the IRC channel used for coordination, #ophbgary, has been shuttered; most expressed disbelief that these attacks are even happening. We asked HBGary for a copy of some of the faxes received at its offices, but were told that the fax machines had been turned over to the authorities as part of the investigation. HBGary did pass along a representative e-mail that an employee received last week (all header information has been removed): Subject: Security Problem loooooooooooooooooool owned by anonymous. hope your strategy wont work and ppl of this planet will become free without beeing surpressed or monitored. shame on you for your "business" - it is ppl like you who try to stop human revelation all in the name of allmighty america. nice to see you failing hard and getting exposed yourself. greets one of your monitored sheep that actually dont like to be monitored. ps: please do us (the human race that is not trying to be nazis like you) a favor and get aids and die slow and painfull, thanks in advance. The real impact of the attacks on Anonymous may not be felt for months, or even years. 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