Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 53763
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2025/05/23 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
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2010/3/29-4/14 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:53763 Activity:nil
3/29    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100329/us_time/08599197588300
        "Arabs, who would seem to have an even stronger race claim than
        Hispanics do, are trumpeting their own write-in campaign because the
        Census by default counts them as white ... Ironically, part of the
        problem is that Arab immigrants a century ago petitioned the Federal
        Government to be categorized as white to avoid discrimination."
        Which way do they want?
        \_ Shockingly, not all Arabs want the same thing.
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news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100329/us_time/08599197588300
Copies of the 2010 Census forms are seen during a news conference Monday, March 15, 2010, in Phoenix to kickoff a national drive as Census forms are m AP - Copies of the 2010 Census forms are seen during a news conference Monday, March 15, 2010, in Phoenix ... ABC News By TIM PADGETT / MIAMI Tim Padgett / Miami - 25 mins ago Hispanic advocates often tell the story of a Census Bureau worker who visits a Puerto Rican household in New York City's East Harlem neighborhood. Seeing the family's caramel complexion, the Census taker asks which race he should put down for them - white or black. The story could substitute a Mexican-American family - or Colombian- or Nicaraguan-American ones for that matter - but the gist would be the same. Many, if not most, Hispanics in the US think of their ethnicity (also known as Latino) not just in cultural terms but in a racial context as well. 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