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2009/10/22-11/3 [Politics/Domestic/California, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:53463 Activity:nil
10/22   State of Utah saved $4.1M in one year by switching to 4day-10hr work
        weeks: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ut_four_day_workweek (Not to mention
        the commute time saved.)
        Maybe the State of CA (a much bigger body) and our private employers
        can do the same.
        \_ We did this at work and maybe they saved money, but they also
           receive less for the money they spend. Lots of people were
           working 9 or 10 hours every day anyway. They still do, but now they
           just don't come in on Friday. Productivity seems way down. In
           fact, in order to meet a big deadline on a particular project
           that project's management made everyone on that task switch to
           a regular work week. What does that say? YMMV.
           \_ Do you work in a government office? I am guesing that most
              govt employees are not working 9-10 hours/day.
              \_ Actually, I do work for the government. However, I will
                 agree this is probably atypical for the government.
           \_ The article says that the biggest savings for Utah came not from
              energy saving or janitoral service reduction, but from overtime
              pay saving.  So it won't work for positions that don't pay
              overtime.
              \_ It assumes people were working paid overtime to begin with
                 and now they will not because the work day is so long.
                 However, I wouldn't argue that the productivity is the
                 same. The article says: "They're getting what they need
                 to get done in 10 hours and going home" with the
                 implication being that they used to be there more than
                 40 hours but got no more work done in that time. I doubt it.
                 I think money is being saved, but less work is being done
                 as a result. People are not suddenly using their time
                 more productively unless the whole overtime thing was a
                 fiasco to begin with where people stayed to get
                 time-and-a-half in which case they could have just as easily
                 said: "No more overtime" and stayed on 5/40. This is not
                 a benefit of the short work week per se.
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State employees were eager to leave after the longer workday, and weren't inclined to work an extra hour or two. "They're getting what they need to get done in 10 hours and going home," said Angie Welling, spokeswoman for Gov. "The state envisioned some energy savings, but that overtime number was not anticipated," she said Wednesday. Utah was the first state in the country to shut down most of its services on Fridays. Hawaii tried a limited four-day week last fall, when a similar program was under way in Washington state. Lawmakers in at least two other states -- West Virginia and Virginia -- have also looked into adopting a four-day workweek. Jon Huntsman made the switch for Utah in August 2008, largely to cut energy costs. Utah, however, achieved only a sixth of the $3 million it expected to trim on energy costs. The state couldn't shut down as many state buildings as it planned on Fridays, officials said, and it didn't save much by closing the smaller buildings. Also, the state assumed gasoline for state fleet car use and building utility costs would soar, and it would save as much. Both expenditures actually fell over the past year, however. Utah has some of the lowest utility rates in the country. The figures were released Wednesday by Herbert's strategic planner, Mike Hansen. The new governor -- Huntsman left to become the US ambassador to China -- is undecided on whether to stick with the program, Welling said. He feels like we have good data on the amount of cost savings, employee satisfaction and the energy reduction. What he things is missing is input from the public," she said. To that end, Herbert will commission a poll of public sentiment -- citizens lost a day of government service with the switch. Another survey found 85 percent of the workers like working four longer days better than five shorter ones. Working mothers like Carolyn Dennis -- she has two young sons -- found a way to adjust. "It's actually a lot easier than the five-hour day, because I have all day Friday to clean and run errands and still have the whole weekend to spend with my kids," said Dennis, customer service manager for the Utah Division of Occupational and Professional Licensing. We never did anything in the evening anyway, but having that extra day has made it easier to be a working mom." Dennis leaves the Salt Lake City suburb of West Jordan at 5:45 am with her youngest, a 2-year-old, in tow. she drops him at a day care center near work in downtown Salt Lake City. Her husband, a business owner, drops the couple's 7-year-old son, a first-grader, at school. Dennis works from 6:30 am to 5 pm, skipping lunch hour and leaving a half-hour earlier than normal. That allows her to cut down a long day for her youngest. "I started out getting him dressed while he was still asleep, but now he's getting up early for breakfast. He's happy and smiling when I drop him off, so it makes my day go better," she said. "I do love the 4/10 and told my boss if they take it away, I'll probably cry," she said. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.