Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 53442
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2018/06/23 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2009/10/9-21 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:53442 Activity:nil
10/9    "Iconic Hummer brand sold to Chinese manufacturer - Yahoo! Finance"
        Now the Chinese has blueprint of the workhorse vehicle of our military.
        \_ You know what?  It's a stupid workhorse.  We shouldn't be
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           \_ I heard what's good about the HMMWV is that it's highly
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              regard.  To me, it doesn't even have a level front hood that can
              be used as a table, which was a requirement for the MJ's.
              \_ Mind you, milspec Hummers are great for breaking up kidney
                 stones. Those shock absorbers? Definitely an after-market
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ap Iconic Hummer brand sold to Chinese manufacturer Hummer, symbol of America's love of big, is now in hands of Chinese heavy equipment maker * By Tom Krisher, AP Auto Writer * On 10:06 pm EDT, Friday October 9, 2009 * (Submit) Buzz up! Motors Liquidation Company DETROIT (AP) -- Hummer, the off-road vehicle that once epitomized America's love for hulking trucks, is now in the hands of a Chinese heavy equipment maker. AP - FILE - In this June 2, 2009 file photo, a Hummer H2 vehicle is seen for sale at ... AP - FILE - In this June 2, 2009 file photo, a Hummer H2 vehicle is seen for sale at ... pk","k" : "c10,l10,p20,t10","o" : "","j" : ""} General Motors Co. finally signed the much-anticipated deal for GM to sell the brand on Friday. Tengzhong will get an 80 percent stake in the company, while Hong Kong investor Suolang Duoji, who indirectly owns a big stake in Tengzhong through an investment company, will get 20 percent. The investors will also get Hummer's nationwide dealer network. Financial terms were not disclosed, although a person briefed on the deal said the sale price was around $150 million. The person did not want to be identified because the terms were being kept private. GM's bankruptcy filing last summer said that the brand with military roots could bring in $500 million or more. GM and Tengzhong said in a statement that the transaction still must be approved by the US and Chinese governments. Chinese regulators initially expressed reservations about Tengzhong's ability to run such an enterprise. Hummer's current management team will stay with the new company, which will be headquartered either in Detroit or suburban Auburn Hills, Mich. James Taylor, the GM executive who has run Hummer recently, will remain as its chief executive officer. Taylor said in an interview with The Associated Press that he knows resurrecting the brand will be difficult, but the key will be quickly rolling out more fuel-efficient models that get over 20 mpg. "I'm not in any kind of denial that we have a very steep uphill challenge in front of us," Taylor said. Hummer, he said, has been in a state "suspended animation" since June 2008 when GM announced it would be reviewed for sale or closure. Since then, its future has been uncertain and it got no marketing support or new products. Financing for leases, a big part of its luxury market, also dried up, Taylor said. Still, GM sold 1,000 Hummers in some months, proving that buyers are out there. "There's still a loyal customer base underneath there that loves Hummer," he said. Hummer hopes to keep buying fuel-efficient engines and transmissions from GM, but can seek them elsewhere, Taylor said. He said the brand has been unfairly tagged as a symbol of the American gas guzzler, saying other vehicles get worse mileage. He wants to make sure "at least we aren't a victim of misinformation that we stand alone as the ultimate bad guy in the space, which we aren't." Hummer hit the streets for civilian use in 1992 while owned by AM General LLC, which makes Humvees for the US Army, and California Gov. But only 8,193 Hummers have been sold in the US through the first nine months of the year. And only 426 Hummers were sold nationwide last month, according to Autodata Corp. GM, which spent 40 days in bankruptcy protection during the summer and has received about $50 billion in US government aid, also plans to sell its Saab brand and scrap Pontiac and Saturn as it tries to streamline its operations. The Hummer deal is a victory for GM, which saw a similar agreement to sell the Saturn brand blow up at the last minute. Auto dealership magnate Roger Penske's bid fell through just before the deal was to close last week when a contract to make vehicles for Saturn was rejected by the Renault board. The company wants to focus on four core brands: Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC With backing from a well-capitalized company, Hummer will now focus on improved efficiency and performance and include alternative fuels, more efficient gas engines, six-speed transmissions and diesel engines. would continue to assemble the commercial Hummer H3 and H3T pickup trucks on a contract basis until June 2011, with a one-year option until June 2012. The Shreveport GM plant is currently slated to close by June 2012. For the time being, the plant also is assembling the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon pickup trucks. CEO Taylor said GM has agreed to make the H3 models under contract through 2012, but he expects the manufacturing relationship to end when production of other products made in Shreveport ends. "GM's not in the business of supporting other OEMs or niche manufacturers like us," he said. He sees a potential for a manufacturing relationship to continue with AM General, he said. 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