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2009/9/21-29 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:53386 Activity:nil
9/21    http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/21/google-is-searching-for-beautiful-minds-but-so-far-no-m-i-t-students-have-broken-its-code
        If you can figure this out, you may have a future with Google.
        8MLDQ6 T UI
        6TFML RH AA
        NRA6Q 8EFL
        DMQ86II2 O3
        2S5J 13JXOJ
        \_ keywords: MIT Google interview job
        \_ Assume wrap-around, then if you just count the characters before each
           space, then you get 617 ...  617 is a Boston number. Hmmm...
           \_ That's not it. JOBS is your answer. Have fun.
           \_ What? 62, not 617.
        \_ It amazes me how much computer job hiring depends on doing
           puzzles and how little that correlates to actually being
           a good engineer.  -good at puzzles
        \_ It amazes me how tough some of the algorithmic questions are really
           tough yet you don't need a lot of brain to do most of the tasks at
           Google.  P.S. having fun with your fucking perf yet? You enjoying
           bragging^H^H^Hself-assessment to standout to get that EXCEED
           EXPECTATIONS and to get promoted?                      -Googler
           \_ A good company takes a few brilliant minds and leverages
              their ideas. Too many cooks spoil the soup. You get a lot of
              second-guessing, overengineering, difficult personalities,
              and large egos to handle. If you are too successful you also
              have a lot of brain drain as people leave for things more
              interesting or to retirement if they have piles of cash.
              It's much better to have a few brilliant minds and a lot of
              worker bees. I'm not sure what Google is thinking. It's
              working so far, but my opinion is that it's in spite of
              their culture and not because of it.
              \_ obviously, you never worked at Google          -Googler
                 \_ So you think that hiring a lot of brilliant people to do
                    brainless tasks is a winning strategy?
                    \_ Yes, because they all get paid the same anyways, so
                       smart people make less dumb mistakes than dumb ass.
                       P.S. Not everyone at Google is smart. Most of the
                       new hires after 2007 are hired out of desperation
                       as they relaxed the standard substantially. The
                       quality of new hires has gone down by quantum leaps.
                       \_ Ever hear the phrase "too many chiefs, not enough Indians?"
                          Do you think it makes sense to hire a PhD to be the
                          janitor?
                          \_ yes I actually do. No one forced the PhD to
                             eat shit. He/she asked for it, and the company
                             gets a pretty good deal. And BTW, learn to read.
                             I already said most of the new hires post 2007
                             are (*@&($*#@ Indians. The company nearly
                             doubled between 2007-2009. So yes they're hiring
                             cheaper and dumber. Apparently, you can't read and
                             maybe you should join the Indians.
                       P.S. Not everyone at Google is smart. Most of the
                       new hires after 2007 are hired out of desperation
                       as they relaxed the standard substantially. The
                       quality of new hires has gone down by quantum leaps.
                             \_ They are all just going to get disillusioned
                                and quit, so it is bad for the company to have
                                to be constantly retraining people like that.
                                I bet you are wrong about the salaries, too.
                                \_ I bet everyone is wrong. Google 600!!!
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Part of the movie A Beautiful Mind takes place there and in real life it's always had close ties with the military and intelligence agencies. Tech companies also like to recruit there, and Google is no exception. In search of some beautiful minds, Google has been putting up signs around the MIT campus with a code that say, "If you can figure this out, you may have a future with Google." If they crack the code, which is a fairly simple substitution cipher (or not), it reveals a phone number where they can leave their contact information. students have been able to crack the code, or at least they haven't bothered to leave a voicemail. The first person to crack the code gets a TechCrunch T-shirt, or maybe a job at Google if you call the number and leave your name. September 21st, 2009 at 10:33 am CDT "I am not really interesting in working for Google because I can do math but I can't speaking" And yeah, would love the solution, I'll take the job... IMDB: After the conclusion of Nashs studies as a student at Princeton, he accepts a prestigious appointment at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), along with his friends Sol and Bender. Five years later while teaching a class on Calculus at MIT, he places a particularly interesting problem on the chalkboard that he dares his students to solve. When his student Alicia Larde comes to his office to discuss the problem, the two fall in love and eventually marry. September 21st, 2009 at 9:06 am CDT Maybe this is a sign that the economy is getting better since the students aren't that desperate to waste time on this silly riddle just to get their resume ahead on the list. Enough people from around here get jobs (at Google too) without the need for riddles like this, and they rather be spending their time doing important globally relevant things like put a police car on top of the MIT dome, drop a piano from a dorm roof, or just watch Rocky Horror for the 1000th time.. No thanks, we are at MIT and we don't really have a dearth for nicer, smarter less arrogant people who want to hire us, when we are not founding our own companies. Lot more fun working on the dome hacks instead of this silly riddle! September 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm CDT I think that's a piss poor reason not to take a shot at it. Just because you're at MIT doesn't (or at least shouldn't) mean you get a job anywhere you want. I believe that, yes, you probably could get a job at Google if you wanted to without solving the code, but they're trying to introduce some sport into the matter and make things fun. They're not trying to have you solve some meaningless riddle with the hopes that you may one day "work at google." Maybe theyr'e hoping one day you'll stop just thinking you're smarter than everyone else and actually prove it. September 21st, 2009 at 2:54 pm CDT Oh dear, I seem to have misspelled some things within my rant. s/theyr'e/they're/ and any other mistakes I may have made (I want to catch them before someone goes OH DEAR YOU CAN'T FORM A GOOD ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SPELL). September 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm CDT That's the answer that I came up with as well, within the first few minutes, but I don't know of its actual authenticity. September 21st, 2009 at 9:42 am CDT You know, I had this thought also, but I wasn't 100% positive so I did a quick check over at Wikipedia to prevent myself from from incorrectly spouting off and looking like an ass. September 21st, 2009 at 9:10 am CDT From a HR Standpoint, I would think that such a qualifier would certainly weed out some less then motivated persons. September 21st, 2009 at 9:13 am CDT easy, the code is 77556722063, you huys can have the job at google thanks, i'm from a third world country, they'll never give it to me. 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