Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 53356
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2009/9/10-21 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:53356 Activity:nil
9/10    "4 Conundrums That Impede Healthcare Reform"
        http://www.csua.org/u/p11 (news.yahoo.com)
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Supporters of the health care reform hold signs outside a health care town hall meeting with US congressman Kendrick Meeks (R-FL) in Miami Reuters - Supporters of the health care reform hold signs outside a health care town hall meeting with US congressman ... By Rick Newman Rick Newman - Wed Sep 9, 9:01 am ET Everybody agrees that something is wrong. Yet it remains remarkably hard to fix our $2 trillion healthcare system. Part of the reason, obviously, is that a lot is at stake. Healthcare accounts for 16 percent of the economy, a far higher portion than in most other developed nations. Yet even though we pay more, the care we get is hardly better and in some cases worse than what's available elsewhere. President Obama's plans to improve the return on our healthcare dollar would affect the livelihood of millions--some for the better, and some for the worse. 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