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7/28    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article6727710.ece
        Yes!!! Women are getting prettier and prettier due to evolution.
        "In men, by contrast, good looks appear to count for little, with
        handsome men being no more successful than others in terms of numbers
        of children. This means there has been little pressure for men
        appearance to evolve."
        Yes!!!! I have a chance to win at the reproductive game of
        human race!                     -average looking overweight sysadm
        \_ I believe it. Look at the old paintings of women. Yes, beauty
           ideals evolve, but so many of those women were downright homely.
           The men in the paintings look similar to men now.
           \_ Actually old paintings indicate that women were fat. Thanks
              to media, they are skinny malnutritioned sticks, the way our
              culture want them to be.
              \_ You are talking about Rubens, but not every painter portrayed
                 women that way. I am not talking about their bodies anyway,
                 but their faces. There are a lot of paintings by people
                 like Gainsborough done in the 1700s which depicted the
                 wealthy. The subjects were not fat. However, neither were
                 most of them attractive. Some of them were quite, but that
                 seemed to be more the exception than the rule. I think
                 better nutrition, and possibly evolution, has lead to
                 more attractive women certainly.
                 \_ The wealthy ate better than the poor, and the wealthy
                    had painters. Eating better-->getting fat-->getting more
                    pictures. As for nutrition and evolution, IMHO better
                    healthcare in general explains it all. You ever wonder
                    why the average American has better looking teeth than
                    the British? It's because Americans spend much more on
                    dental care than any other developed nations.
                    \_ Did you completely ignore my comment that the subjects
                       did not appear to be fat? Ugly, maybe. Fat, no.
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CLASSIFIEDS From The Sunday Times July 26, 2009 Women are getting more beautiful Jonathan Leake, Science Editor * FOR the female half of the population, it may bring a satisfied smile. Scientists have found that evolution is driving women to become ever more beautiful, while men remain as aesthetically unappealing as their caveman ancestors. The researchers have found beautiful women have more children than their plainer counterparts and that a higher proportion of those children are female. Those daughters, once adult, also tend to be attractive and so repeat the pattern. Over generations, the scientists argue, this has led to women becoming steadily more aesthetically pleasing, a "beauty race" that is still on. The findings have emerged from a series of studies of physical attractiveness and its links to reproductive success in humans. In a study released last week, Markus Jokela, a researcher at the University of Helsinki, found beautiful women had up to 16% more children than their plainer counterparts. He used data gathered in America, in which 1,244 women and 997 men were followed through four decades of life. Their attractiveness was assessed from photographs taken during the study, which also collected data on the number of children they had. Scientist explodes myth about Big Bum Theory This builds on previous work by Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics, who found that good-looking parents were far more likely to conceive daughters. He suggested this was an evolutionary strategy subtly programmed into human DNA. He cited two findings from the Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, a US government-backed study that is monitoring more than 15,000 Americans. The measurements include objective assessments of physical attractiveness. One finding was that women were generally regarded by both sexes as more aesthetically appealing than men. The other was that the most attractive parents were 26% less likely to have sons. Kanazawa said: "Physical attractiveness is a highly heritable trait, which disproportionately increases the reproductive success of daughters much more than that of sons. "If more attractive parents have more daughters and if physical attractiveness is heritable, it logically follows that women over many generations gradually become more physically attractive on average than men." In men, by contrast, good looks appear to count for little, with handsome men being no more successful than others in terms of numbers of children. This means there has been little pressure for men's appearance to evolve. The findings coincide with the bicentenary of the birth of Charles Darwin, whose theory of evolution first described the forces that shape all species. Even he, however, might have been surprised by the subtlety of the effects now being detected by researchers looking into human mating. When Elizabeth Jagger became a model, her mother, the former model Jerry Hall, said: "It's in her genes." Women may take consolation in the finding that men are subject to other types of evolutionary pressure. Gayle Brewer, a psychology lecturer at the University of Central Lancashire, said: "Men and women seek different things in their partners. "For women, looks are much less important in a man than his ability to look after her when she is pregnant and nursing, periods when women are vulnerable to predators. Historically this has meant rich men tend to have more wives and many children. This website is published by a member of the News International Group. News International Limited, 1 Virginia St, London E98 1XY, is the holding company for the News International group and is registered in England No 81701.