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2009/7/23-29 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:53185 Activity:low
7/23    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090723/ap_on_re_us/us_hospital_deportation
        "Hospitals are already struggling under the staggering costs of
        treating the nation's roughly 47 million uninsured. Illegal immigrants
        make up an estimated 15 percent of this group, according to the Pew
        Hispanic Center."  "He and Larson also say a country that relies on
        cheap, immigrant labor for everything from agriculture, to clothing to
        construction, should factor in the cost of catastrophic injuries to
        those providing these essential services - whether it means requiring
        employers to offer coverage even for day laborers or ensuring public
        and nonprofit hospitals can care for them."
        And people think cheap illegal labor is really cheap labor.
        \_ hello jblack (Justin Black), how are you? Is today the
           get angry at all brown people day again?
           \_ Why do the pro-illegal-immigrant people like to equate anti-
              illegal-immigrant opinion with anti-immigrant and even anti-
              minority ones?  -- !jblack
              \_ because the vast majority of "anti-illegal-immigrant" people
                 oppose any attempt to make our immigration laws more sane
                 and thereby reduce the number of "illegal" immigrants.
              \_ 1) It is a handy debating tactic.
                 2) Too often, it is true.
        \_ I know what we need to do, let's start a war and blow up
           $2T in some worthless country, that will help the economy!
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FILE - In this July 13, 2003 file photo, Luis Alberto Ramirez, rests in the AP - FILE - In this July 13, 2003 file photo, Luis Alberto Ramirez, rests in the Orthopedic General Hospital ... By LAURA WIDES-MUNOZ, AP Hispanic Affairs Writer Laura Wides-munoz, Ap Hispanic Affairs Writer - 25 mins ago STUART, Fla. During the early hours of a steamy July 2003 morning, Martin Memorial Medical Center chartered a private plane and sent 37-year-old Luis Jimenez back to the Central American country without telling his relatives in the US or Guatemala -- even as his cousin and legal guardian, Montejo Gaspar, frantically sought to stop the move. Gaspar is suing the hospital for essentially deporting Jimenez, who was an illegal immigrant. Underlying the dispute is the broader question of what's a hospital to do with a patient who requires long-term care, is unable to pay and doesn't qualify for federal or state aid because of his immigration status. 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