7/2     Is imaps working?  What are the hostnames of the "incoming and
        outgoing mail servers" for CSUA email, and what kind of options
        should one set?

        I also noticed that we seem
        \_ Setup yer .forward or .procmailrc for now. I'm at a loss, too.
        \_ <DEAD>mail.csua.berkeley.edu<DEAD>. Using SSH (on default port 993) like before.
        \_ <DEAD>mail.csua.berkeley.edu<DEAD>. Over SSL (on default port 993) like before.
          \_ alpine doesnt seem to work. i try
                Folders on <DEAD>mail.csua.berkeley.edu<DEAD>:993 in cur
                but get timeouts .. using cur for "inbox" folder