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2009/5/6-9 [Computer/HW/Laptop, Computer/HW/Display] UID:52954 Activity:low
5/6     My new Dell UltraSharp 2408WFP finally arrived. While it's only
        1/2 the cost of an Apple LED Cinema Display 24, it has very rich
        colors and is super bright. However, it is HUGE. It's about 5 inches
        thick and looks uber ugly on my little desk. Functionally, it
        does what it does well, and the specifications are superb. But
        it's like a PC-- full of features (CF card, SD card, 4 USB, VGA,
        displayport, DVI), 110% color gamut, etc etc etc. Yes on paper the
        specs look good. But it is nothing compared to Apple's 24 inch.
        I still think the Apple color looks better. More eye pleasing,
        less strains on the eyes, more crisp text display, more accurate
        colors. If it weren't for the fact that I can't do DVI->displayport,
        I'd get an Apple. Dell 2408WFP-- looks good on paper, but it's
        like a typical PC, loaded with features but lacks substance. I
        guess I'll just use this POS until I get a new laptop with
        displayport built in.
        \_ Dell brightness really hurts:
           http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?page=4&t=1908075
           Total piece of shit.
        \_ I have a dell 2405FPW, its an older model, I've had it almost 2
           years now, and it is still doing great.  It looks fine and I
           actually use the USB and CF slots in it.  I dismiss you as an
           apple fanboi.
           -ERic
           \_ No. The Dell is to the Zune as Apple Cinema is to iPhone.
              If you can't tell the difference, good for you. But to
              me, the Dell is just harsh on the eyes and badly built. By
              the way I'm not trying to insult you. Some people can't tell
              the difference between Merlot and Cabernet, and some people
              don't care. I don't know which category you fall into, but
              I can tell the difference, and I care. To each his own.
              \_ I think you mean the Dell is to Apple Cinema as the
                 Zune is to the iPhone.  The Dell compares to the Cinema
                 display, the Zune compares to the iPhone.  Back to the SAT
                 prep classes with you.
              \_ This is a terrible analogy on so many levels. For starters,
                 the Zune isn't a phone. So an iPod would be a better analogy.
                 But the iPod is not just an output device, there are actual
                 usability components, so it's not just straight technical
                 specs, industrial design, or quality of components to compare.
                 I work at Apple and like my 23" cinema display at work, but
                 at home I have a Dell 2005FPW and it's quite fine. OTOH, I
                 don't know how much you'd have to pay me to use a Zune.
           \_ I had a 2405 years ago.  I replaced it with an Eizo model
              within a couple of weeks and never looked back.  It's not
              just about the LCD panel (same Samsung panel in both).  The
              thing is cheaply designed using cheap components.  Lamp
              driver or some other high frequency switching circuit in it
              was emitting annoying high-pitched sound.  It was
              completely unacceptable to me.  Apparently, a lot of people
              are deaf thanks to the kinds and methods of music listening
              these days and can't hear it.  FYI, if I knew Eizo was
              going to release a 24" model within weeks of my 2405
              purchase, I wouldn't have even considered the Dell.
           \_ I have an Apple 23" and compared to my brother's 24" Dell,
              images on the Apple look better.  Still, if I had to replace
              my 23", I'd go with the Dell b/c it is so much cheaper. (I
              would probably have bought a Dell 24" in the first place, but
              I managed to get a huge discount on the Apple, so I got it
              instead).
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tiro 02:18 PM 27-03-2008 Originally Posted by Oranger: Was actually also very disappointed with it due to it being super bright even when I tuned the brightness to 0 Eyes get tired after a while. but after using it the whole day yesterday, kinda got used to it. Now setting it at brightness 8, contrast around 60-70, cant remember. well I adjusted my 2408 since the day it arrived and now using it w/o problem, but still red looks abit red to me. maybe you should adjust your color setting, I'm using Spyder 3 btw, bought from JPN last time. tiro 02:50 PM 27-03-2008 Originally Posted by Uramasa: you feel dizzy, because of? well I adjusted my 2408 since the day it arrived and now using it w/o problem, but still red looks abit red to me. maybe you should adjust your color setting, I'm using Spyder 3 btw, bought from JPN last time. Especially when I'm viewing things with white background. Especially when I'm viewing things with white background. without a proper calibration tool, what is a good program available for self calibration with our own eyes? i'm currently having rather dark midtones, and whites are too bright - and reducing brightness makes everything else suffer ... does graphics card affect the brightness / colour / midtones seen? a graphics card's job is only to pump data (1 0 1 0 etc) to the monitor, which will then determine the final image produced right? so upgrading graphics card only gives u speed but not the bright-dark, contrast kind of effect? please share your settings with us who does not have access of Spyder 3 or likes. While there will be part variations, our 2408 would be about the same batch and produced with same mfg conditions to use your settings without any major demerits. If you can provide chargeable service to calibrate all my 2408 and other 2 LCDs, I would certainly be interested. tiro: Yeah, I felt quite dizzy these past 2 days because of the brightness.. The 2408 is not "bright" Have you heard of brightness controls? There is the brightness control on the monitor And there is the brightness control in graphics card control panel - did you see whether you previously set it to +50% or +100% and forgot? limster 09:25 AM 28-03-2008 Originally Posted by richard_crl032: If you can provide chargeable service to calibrate all my 2408 and other 2 LCDs, I would certainly be interested. tiro 09:32 AM 28-03-2008 Originally Posted by limster: The 2408 is not "bright" Have you heard of brightness controls? There is the brightness control on the monitor And there is the brightness control in graphics card control panel - did you see whether you previously set it to +50% or +100% and forgot? Didn't think that I am that dumb to make such a mistake eh. franstam 04:31 PM 28-03-2008 Originally Posted by kailord: i'm having that problem too ... without a proper calibration tool, what is a good program available for self calibration with our own eyes? i'm currently having rather dark midtones, and whites are too bright - and reducing brightness makes everything else suffer ... does graphics card affect the brightness / colour / midtones seen? a graphics card's job is only to pump data (1 0 1 0 etc) to the monitor, which will then determine the final image produced right? so upgrading graphics card only gives u speed but not the bright-dark, contrast kind of effect? Didn't think that I am that dumb to make such a mistake eh. You have only mentioned 1 brightness setting whereas I pointed out that there are 2 brightness settings, one hardware, the other software. but basically you open the locking plate of the stand and you will notice the plate have holes that which the stand have a locking bumps these bumps, from what i see, is not really fitting and have a little tolerance what i do is to loosen the holding screws and over-compensate the slant/tilt when i affixed back, after a few times relocating, I finally got the @#$% thing right enough bout that I wanna ask whether anyone tried the Display Port I have a xpert vision 9600gt, with display port out...