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4/30    So I have been posting reviews to Tripadvisor. They are usually good.
        A couple have been poor. I noticed that the poor ones tend to
        recieve poor marks for "helpfulness". I think that is someone at
        the establishment marking my poor review as "unhelpful". What
        really irritated me is when my honest and accurate review was
        removed from the site. I got a letter from Tripadvisor saying that
        I had violated policy by "smearing" the establishment. (I actually
        rated the place 3 stars but related a poor experience I had.) So
        Tripadvisor acts under pressure from property and restaurant owners
        to remove bad reviews apparently. This calls into the question the
        value of any reviews on that site. This is certainly unethical,
        but is there a basis for a lawsuit?
        Article I found:
        http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel/chi-travelquest_0525_r_lmv_pmmay25,0,5120261.story
        \_ See also the East Bay Express story on yelp.
           http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyrobase/yelp_and_the_business_of_extortion_2_0/Content?oid=927491&page=1
            -tom
           \_ Good article, thanks.
           \_ I have a friend at yelp who is one of those people who is so
              earnest he pretty much can't tell lie.  (It's kind of embarassing
              how earnest the guy is.)  His take on that article was that
              it is 100% bullshit.  That said, yelp reviews suck so hard
              they are useless.
              \_ The guy who owns Mama's Cafe told me he's repeatedly
                 received calls from Yelp saying that they'll "re-
                 prioritize" bad reviews in exchange for donations.
        \_ This is my least favorite Yelp reviewer on planet:
           http://www.yelp.com/user_details?userid=G3bUPrjE__b-jKpYASYFxg
           \_ Why? Looks like he gives a lot of relevant information.
                \_ how nice:
                   "It's like the creepy math nerd from high school:
                   I wouldn't hang out with him if I didn't have
                        to get his class notes! "
                   \_ Dude probably was the creepy math nerd.
                      Anyway, I am not on Yelp to make friends. I want
                      lots of accurate info and he seems to provide more
                      than average.
        \_ What would you sue them for? They haven't caused you any harm.
           IANAL, but you have to have some kind of personal stake in something
           to file a lawsuit.
           http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/s064.htm
           \_ "I suppose a disgruntled business could bring an
              unfair-trade-practices-type lawsuit of their Terms of Service,
              but it has to hinge on whether they're saying one thing and
              then are doing something else. That's the only way there could
              be any legal action."
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I received a letter from an attorney threatening to sue me for libel if I did not remove my negative review within 14 days. I have contacted others who have written reviews for this establishment, and they also received the attorney\'s letter. When I contacted TripAdvisor, I received an e-mail that said the site took the threats seriously, but they didn\'t even ask for a copy of the attorney\'s letter. Shouldn\'t TripAdvisor be leading the charge for protecting customers? I received a letter from an attorney threatening to sue me for libel if I did not remove my negative review within 14 days. I have contacted others who have written reviews for this establishment, and they also received the attorney's letter. When I contacted TripAdvisor, I received an e-mail that said the site took the threats seriously, but they didn't even ask for a copy of the attorney's letter. Shouldn't TripAdvisor be leading the charge for protecting customers? A: That fine print that no one reads when you agree to the terms and conditions on TripAdvisor? story But in an e-mail to me, Brooke Ferencsik, senior manager of media relations for TripAdvisor, said, "It is rare that a hotelier threatens a reviewer with legal action, but if we are made aware of such an instance, we will send out a letter to the owner alerting them that their property will be actively monitored by TripAdvisor for suspicious activity and that they must discontinue any attempts to subvert our system. We also make them aware that we have a procedure for penalizing businesses who make such attempts." And if TripAdvisor's words to the unwise don't resonate, you always have the 1st Amendment on your side--you know, that little thing that says, "Congress shall make no law ... " Maybe the hotel's lawyer was absent the day the class studied that chapter. California takes a dim view of something legal eagles call a SLAPP lawsuit, for strategic lawsuit against public participation. Such lawsuits often are used to intimidate people into silence on certain issues. "First thing I would try to do is argue it's a SLAPP suit." Al Anolik, a travel-rights attorney in the San Francisco Bay Area, contends that Wilcox is only trying to give constructive criticism. "The hotel should spend the money on maintenance rather than attorney fees," he said. do exactly what I've seen other property owners do on Trip- Advisor: Have one of their representatives post a concise statement in accordance with TripAdvisor's posting policy, stating that they regret the traveler's negative experience and that they have addressed the issues, if that is the case, and that their property maintains the highest standards and consistently achieves high ratings from travelers and independent hospitality evaluators, if this is the case." The hotel and/or its lawyer might not know about the 1st Amendment, but you'd think a California business would know about reputation management. All the experts agreed that people who post on TripAdvisor or similar sites need not worry about having their say as long as they frame it as opinion rather than fact. Even if the hotel was dirty, it's probably wiser to frame your remarks in terms of your reactions, such as, "It didn't meet my standards for cleanliness."
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To do so, a person must be sufficiently affected by the matter at hand, and there must be a case or controversy that can be resolved by legal action. There are three requirements for Article III standing: injury in fact, which means an invasion of a legally protected interest that is concrete and particularized, and actual or imminent, not conjectural or hypothetical; a causal relationship between the injury and the challenged conduct, which means that the injury fairly can be traced to the challenged action of the defendant, and has not resulted from the independent action of some third party not before the court; and a likelihood that the injury will be redressed by a favorable decision, which means that the prospect of obtaining relief from the injury as a result of a favorable ruling is not too speculative. The party invoking federal jurisdiction bears the burden of establishing each of these elements. In deciding whether xxx has standing, a court must consider the allegations of fact contained in xxx's declaration and other affidavits in support of his assertion of standing. see also Warth, 422 US at 501 (when addressing motion to dismiss for lack of standing, both district court and court of appeals must accept as true all material allegations of the complaint and must construe the complaint in favor of the party claiming standing). Standing is founded "in concern about the proper--and properly limited--role of the courts in a democratic society. When an individual seeks to avail himself of the federal courts to determine the validity of a legislative action, he must show that he "is immediately in danger of sustaining a direct injury." National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), 42 USC S 4331, et seq. Someone who seeks injunctive or declaratory relief "must show a very significant possibility' of future harm in order to have standing to bring suit."