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2009/3/10-17 [Reference/RealEstate] UID:52692 Activity:moderate
3/10    Sure glad I didn't take suburban guys advice and buy a big place
        in the outer suburbs:
        http://tinyurl.com/b68rty
        \_ My house just got appraised for 2x what I paid for it in 2001,
           which is down from 2.5x in 2007. I'm really upset about it,
           especially since the appraisal was because I refinanced at
           4.5% and my payment now is lower than it was when I bought.
           \_ Are you perchance a LANDLORD WITH A YACHT?!?!!?!?!!!!!
        \_ What is the N Cal equivalent to Riverside? Castro Valley?
           San Leandro? Dublin? Tracy? Antioch? Just trying to get
           a sense what it is like since I've never been to Riverside.
           \_ Riverside County is relatively similar to Contra Costa County.
              But downtown Riverside is relatively dense and almost urban.
              There's a UC there and a lot of the sprawl cities (e.g.
              Moreno Valley, Beaumont) are built around Riverside, not LA.
              I just checked Wikipedia and Riverside (city) has almost the same
              density of Castro Valley (~3,900/sq mi), but Riverside County
              is much less dense than Contra Costa.
              \_ professions? crime rates? demograph?
              \_ Riverside isn't much like Contra Costa County. I'd compare
                 it to Modesto.
                 it to Modesto or Stockton. Contra Costa is more like
                 Orange County. Riverside does not have very many wealthy
                 enclaves like Contra Costa County does. Maybe you can
                 compare Riverside to Davis, too.
                 \_ Nah, Davis >>> Riverside.
                    \_ Davis is maybe 1/10th the size of Riverside.
                 \_ Riverside is much wealthier than Modesto. A better
                    comparison would be Vacaville. Maybe Vacaville plus
                    Vallejo.
                     \_ And a 10x better place to live.  Which says something
                        about how shitty Riverside is.
                        \_ Perhaps, but all the other cities in the "Inland
                           Empire" are worse.
                 \_ I was going to say that Riverside was nicer than Modesto
                    and then I looked at the demographics and I have to admit
                    you nailed it. Concord is actually pretty close to
                    Riverside, in most ways.
                    \_ Concord is not similar to Riverside in my mind.
                       Concord has a BART stop that gets you to SF
                       quickly. Concord is a bedroom community for SF.
                       Riverside is too far from LA and San Diego to really be
                       influenced by them, so it (and San Bernardino) are
                       more like Stockton. I'd live in Concord area but
                       I'd never (again) live in Riverside area.
        \_ Riverside has terrible air quality and the "909" (area code) is
           ridiculed as being a meth capital. Moreno Valley passed up Fresno
           and was the murder capital of the US a short while ago. I think that
           Beaumont was the fastest growing "small city" in California in 2006
           and 2007. The IE has a lot of bad things about it. Upside is
           proximity to Palm Springs, maybe Temecula (wineries)?
           \_ Gotta agree, Riverside smells like cow-ass
              \_ You are confusing Riverside with Chino here. Chino smells
                 like cow-ass, Riverside like car-ass.
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tinyurl.com/b68rty -> www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-straight8-2009mar08,0,480698.story
By Susan Straight March 8, 2009 First in a series At night, I can hear the soft thumps as the rats land on my roof. They launch themselves from the branches of the apricot tree because they want to get inside my attic, into a house with heat. The house next door, and the one next to that, have been empty since October. Their yards have gone feral, with hundreds of dandelion heads glistening gray in the night. The skunks have a den somewhere next door, where the metal shed was dismantled. Opossums, raccoons and lizards have colonized the abandoned yards on my block in Riverside. And it's spooky, at night, to see so much darkness, to hear skittering, to keep an eye out for homeless people trying to break in and sleep, to listen for the sounds of desperate humans and animals. Last week, a woman stole a pair of shoes right off my neighbor Maria's front porch. Maria woke her son, who ran down the street and confronted the woman. After a pair of clippers disappeared from my yard, I've started taking ladders and anything else of possible worth inside at night. Our mailman, Randy, said this week that from what he sees in his letter bag (he reminds me that Americans have no secrets from the letter carrier), about one in eight homes in our neighborhood are in foreclosure or a few months away. The street already has six empty houses, some vacant for nearly a year. And people walking aimlessly in the street make life eerie and uncertain. Here in the Inland Empire, we joke that our people are canaries but we don't die. Our foreclosure rate was the highest in the country for many months; In the 1980s, we lost Kaiser Steel and many other manufacturers; Last year, after the price of copper skyrocketed, metal theft was rampant; thieves stole catalytic converters from parked cars, brass plaques from headstones and monuments, faucets and bushings from fire hydrants, copper wire from schools and parks. Thieves strip foreclosed homes, identifying them by "Bank Owned" signs in the dead lawns. Water heaters, copper pipes, electrical equipment -- all torn from walls and floors, homes destroyed. For a while, I woke up at night to check on my daughter's Honda, which was broken into repeatedly. But recently it was stolen from in front of her friend's house, in the 15 minutes she left it to go inside. On Presidents Day, my ex-husband and I drove to a towing yard in San Bernardino near the Colton border to retrieve what was left of the car when police found it. Everything gone but the fast-food trash the thieves had strewn on the floor. "I'll call the salvage guy for new door panels and seats," my ex-husband said. "He only takes cash, but my tax refund's gonna be an IOU, right?" We drove through streets of boarded-up bungalows, the neighborhoods of old California now turning back to wild oats and silvery foxtails so high the windows were obscured. Men wandered the potholed streets looking like something out of a current-day Steinbeck novel. We are already more isolated and urbanized than in the past. But to lose the community on my street, the street I've lived on for 22 years, breaks my heart. A neighbor with orange trees brings me bags of navels, which I share with other neighbors. I give Maria eggs from my chickens and winter tomatoes and oranges, and she brings us foods from her native Philippines -- chicken adobo and pancit. But increasingly there are things we can't help each other with. Down the block, my neighbors -- waitresses and home day-care workers and contractors and retired people -- are all nervous about whether they'll have jobs tomorrow. One neighbor sold many of her belongings last year in a series of yard sales, trying to make house payments; her husband, an adult-education teacher, was furloughed for the summer, and his hours for this school year were cut. someone had tried to carjack her son at gunpoint for his truck. And from my kitchen window, I saw police at a house on the next street. After work, my youngest and I smelled smoke on that street, so several neighbors and I ran to see whether the elderly widows on the block were OK. The fire was put out quickly, but one man said to me, "A bad day on this street." Earlier that morning, police arriving to evict a woman found her dead. A woman in her 30s, in a rental house, who'd lost her job some months before and was being evicted, had hanged herself. None of us can get her out of our minds, because we didn't help her. I can see the roof of her house as I wash dishes, and when I go to bed, I can hear the rats gnawing at the chicken wire over the vents on my roof. Susan Straight's most recent novel is "A Million Nightingales."