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2009/2/27-3/5 [Politics/Domestic/California, Health/Women] UID:52654 Activity:moderate
2/27    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7914357.stm
        *shocking* allegations.
        China denounces US 'rights abuse':
                China has responded in detail to a US report published this
                week criticising China for alleged rights abuses. Beijing
                released its own report on the US, saying crime is a threat to
                many Americans and racial discrimination prevails in social
                life across the US.
        \_ Chinese obviously doesn't know much about America.  American are
           actually very abusive in terms of human rights but we've just
           accept it as part of the norm.  example, USA has the highest
           incarceration rate, relatively high murder rate, Blacks/Latinos
           being jailed for drug-related crime are disproportionally higher
           than the demographics of the drug users, etc, etc.  And I haven't
           start talking about outsourcing tortures, prisoner abuse,
           detain people indefinitely without trial nor charges... I really
           don't know what is so special about China and their human rights.
           \_ We generally don't run over protestors with tanks here.  -tom
           \_ All of China is not Bejing.
           \_ Virtually no one in the USA goes to jail for just using drugs.
              In fact, in California, even many small time dealers may be
              released off the hook if caught dealing the first time. Those
              minorities in jail you're talking about are not there
              for just drug use. Most of them are recedivist dealers who
              negotiated a plea deal where they accept a relatively small
              jail time for drug possession in exchange for the judges
              dropping the more serious charges. They do it because
              most of them know their case wouldn't stand in court, and they
              would have to go to jail for much longer time. Just go outside
              of campus and see who is dealing drugs.
              \_ This is not true. I will do some research and get back to
                 you, but there are millions in jail in the US for possession
                 only.
                 \_ Yeah. Please do so. Find and post whacked liberal web site
                    link of the week to support your liberal agenda. I know
                    second hand from people who had known others who had gone
                    through the system.
                    \_ Well since you put it that way, I won't waste my time.
                       Obviously your second hand anecdotal knowledge is
                       superior than any kind of fact-based reasoning.
                        \_ Please tell us about your facts. What are they?
                           You have a proof that the vast majority of drug
                           "users" were not jailed for dealing? No one goes to
                           jail for using drugs in California. That's a fact
                           "users" were not jailed for dealing? No one goes
                           to jail for using drugs in California. That's a fact
                           Even small time dealers get at worst a probation
                           sentense. Anyone who has gone through this system
                           will tell you this. People who are in jail for the
                           most part are real criminals. No doubt about it. You
                           will tell you this. People who are in jail for the most part
                           are the hardened criminals. No doubt about it. You
                           can't see who is dealing drugs in the Bay Area and
                           elsewhere? You still need to do research on that?
                           elsewhere? You need to do research on that?
                           Puhhlease..
                           \_ "No one goes to jail in California for using
                              drugs." Having a hard time tracking down
                              CA-specific numbers, but Bureau of Justice
                              reports 250k prisoners under jurisdiction of
                              state correctional authorities for drug
                              offenses in 2005: http://csua.org/u/nnz
                              If you can find a breakdown of CA prison pop.
                              that shows no drug offenders, your case is
                              made.
                              \_ I don't know if he's right or not, but surely
                                 you realize that your link doesn't actually
                                 answer his claim.  (Maybe for the same reason
                                 as conspiracy theories are impossible to
                                 disprove, but still...) Especially since
                                 dealing is a drug offense... -!pp
                                 \_ Catch-22, then. I would like much clearer
                                    statistics, but the sources are hard to
                                    find.
                                    \_ Yeah, you'd need to find both: how many
                                       people are in jail _just_ for
                                       possession, and how many plea deals
                                       were struck to reduce dealing to
                                       possession.  And, you'd have to take
                                       into account the DAs who use a dealing
                                       charge as a threat to get a plea on
                                       possession....
                            \_ http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=7
                        \_ You might be right, even the DEA is in favor of
                           treatment over jail for first time posession:
                           http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/demand/speakout/10so.htm
                           There's your wacked out liberal site for you, DOJ.
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Printable version China denounces US 'rights abuse' Crowd of Americans Americans hail Obama but China says racial divisions remain China has responded in detail to a US report published this week criticising China for alleged rights abuses. Beijing released its own report on the US, saying crime is a threat to many Americans and racial discrimination prevails in social life across the US. When US officials first published their report on China, Beijing told them to mind their own business. The BBC's James Reynolds, in Beijing, says the reports are a standard yearly exchange with little practical impact. The 9,000-word Chinese report depicts a bleak picture of the US, saying violent crime is a widespread threat to people's lives, property and personal security. The American people's economic, social and cultural rights are not properly protected, say the Chinese, and many young Americans "have personality disorders". "The US practice of throwing stones at others while living in a glass house is testimony to the double standards and hypocrisy of the United States in dealing with human rights issues," says the report. Beijing's report came after the US state department concluded in its annual report on rights around the world that China's human-rights record worsened in some areas in 2008. The US report accused China of harassing dissidents and increasing its repression of ethnic minorities. Last weekend, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton held talks in Beijing with China's leaders and, in public, the issue of human rights was barely mentioned. Advertise With Us BBC MMIX The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites. This page is best viewed in an up-to-date web browser with style sheets (CSS) enabled. While you will be able to view the content of this page in your current browser, you will not be able to get the full visual experience. Please consider upgrading your browser software or enabling style sheets (CSS) if you are able to do so.
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Property offenses include burglary, larceny, motor vehicle theft, fraud, possession and selling of stolen property, destruction of property, trespassing, vandalism, criminal tampering, and other property offenses. Drug offenses include possession, manufacturing, trafficking, and other drug offenses. Public-order offenses include weapons, drunk driving, escape/flight to avoid prosecution, court offenses, obstruction, commercialized vice, morals and decency charges, liquor law violations, and other public-order offenses.
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