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2009/2/20-22 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Finance/Investment] UID:52608 Activity:high
2/20    Was just watching Thu's CNBS on tivo.  Gosh, Obama has no idea what
        he's doing, does he? -Dem
        \_ No, he doesn't. Everyone knew that. That's why I voted for Hilary.
           However, I expected him to have competent advisors. I think
           part of the problem is "What happens when you have competent
           advisors who *disagree*?" as I feel is the case now. Someone
           has to make the call.
           \_ And this just occured to you?
              \_ No. "I voted for Hilary."
           \_ what happens when Krugman (!advisor), Geithner, Summers, Buffet,
              and Volcker are all fucking wrong?
              \_ Greenspan? Bernanke? Roubini? I actually think Buffet is
              \_ Greenspan? Bernanke? Roubini? I actually think Buffett is
                 right and history will prove it.
                 \_ Buffet has been selling, after he told you to buy
                    http://www.thestreet.com/story/10464539/1/buffett-watch-the-oracle-sells-america.html
                    \_ Bull.
                       Sure, he sold some positions. He's also been buying
                       Intersoll-Rand, Nalco (NLC), and Burlington Northern
                       Ingersoll-Rand, Nalco (NLC), and Burlington Northern
                       since end of 3Q 2008. Most holdings are unchanged.
                       That's in BRK. Buffett's article was talking about
                       his personal holdings, which we don't really know
                       about what's happening there.
        \_ What is "Thu's CNBS"?
           \_ Sorry, Thursday CNBC.  Specifically about 2-3 segments where
              Rick Santelli and Steve L. are yelling at each other; also the
              Meredith Whitney interview.
              \_ Yeah the CBOE traders are all such great representatives
                 of the common man. How can you take this guy seriously, he
                 was a hedge fund advisor and one of the architects of CDOs?
        \_ Your use of CNBC as a barometer of anything of substance says
           more about you than about Obama.
           \_ See above about specific segments on the bullshit channel;
              I'm not too impressed with you myself
        \_ Gibbs has a great response to Santelli's right wing frothing:
           http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/02/dude_needs_decaf.php
           \_ Uh, great response?  He's a press secretary, and what I got from
              that was:
              - You're a derivatives (actually, bond) trader you motherfucker
              - By preventing your neighbor's foreclosure, your house will
                maintain value (Santelli actually addressed this yesterday,
                saying most people buy a house to live in, not as in investment
                and the need for house prices to return to normal supply/demand
                levels overrides subsidy of foreclosed properties)
              - Really smart people created this plan
              - Go read the plan, and you'll see it helps a lot of people
              Once again, Obama has no idea what he's doing -Dem
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But whenever you say that any rich person has lost money, one whom we respected, you can expect to get corrected posthaste. So, I will simply leave the sales and the facts out there and let Pickens arrive at a story arc. The "out" Buffett always has is that he buys for the long term. I have no problem with that if you are really rich because you aren't worrying about losing your house or putting food on the table or putting a kid through school. I have argued mightily that it isn't a fair time frame for the hundreds of millions of Americans -- lotsa people -- who aren't rich. However, as long as Buffett was buying and not selling, or as long as he was at least holding, you couldn't knock him.
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