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2009/2/9-17 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:52537 Activity:low
2/9     Moral of the story, never stay in a Chinese-built high rise?
        http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/world/asia/10beijing.html?hp
        \_ Moral of the story, high rises suck. I prefer my single family house
           \_ Because single family homes never burn down?
           \_ Moral of the story: building safety is yet another thing you
              shouldn't leave to deregulation.
              \_ moral of the story: not everyone shares young people's vision of
                 dense living urtopia. A SFH has less dependency on others, hence
                 is more fault resilient. Also as you get older, you realize that
                 there's much more than meeting new people and partying everyday
                 in your dense living utopia in San Francisco. Also, when you have
              \_ moral of the story: not everyone shares young people's vision
                 of dense living urtopia. A SFH has less dependency on others,
                 hence is more fault resilient. Also as you get older, you
                 realize that there's much more than meeting new people and
                 partying everyday in your dense living utopia in San
                 Francisco. Also, when you have
                 kids, you really don't want them to grow up with a bunch of
                 crackheads and weirdos. There's a reason why SFHs in Pasadena
                 and San Marino cost so much.   P.S. Jackie Johnson & JPL rock!
                 Francisco. Also, when you have kids, you really don't want
                 them to grow up with a bunch of crackheads and weirdos.
                 There's a reason why SFHs in Pasadena and San Marino cost so
                 much.   P.S. Jackie Johnson & JPL rock!
                 \_ moral of the story: 80 col is the standard. Also, I'm 39.
                    I very purposefully do not live in a SFH. I like a vibrant
                    neighborhood with shops and diversions in walking distance.
                    Not all urban living is the projects. Get over your fear.
                    \_ any kid?
                       \_ Working on it.
                  \_ Stop trolling.
                \_ http://www.spur.org
        \_ Some hot girl from school added me in Facebook.  Looks like she
           just had a kid.  A cute kid.  A cute kid with Down's Syndrome.
           Her husband is a manly alpha male Special Forces officer.
           No nerds for miles.  Kids are overrated.
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