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2/5     There's no reason only poor people should get infected by malaria.
        --Bill Gates,
        just before releasing a bunch of mosquitos at TED:
        http://csua.org/u/ngw
        \_ So he supports repealing bans on DDT?
           \- the DDT ban has a interesting backstory. It is worth
              reading about.
           \_ There are plenty of ways to kill mosquitoes without DDT, and
              mosquitoes in malaria areas have mostly developed resistance
              to it.   -tom
              \_ DDT is quite cheap and worth distinguishing between
                 pesticide use and public health use.  DDT can reduce
                 malaria without needing to kill resistant mosquitos.
              \_ DDT is quite cheap and worth distinguishing between
                 (agri) pesticide use and public health use.  DDT can reduce
                 malaria levels without needing to kill resistant mosquitos.
                 And poor people running high risks can reasonably have
                 a different future discount rate.
                 \_ DDT is only cheap to the extent that its costs are
                    externalized.  -tom
                    \_ Poor people who say dont take jet planes around
                       the world have a big "externality" quota.  And
                       by that measure, the costs of the "ban" on DDT
                       arent internalized either.
                       \_ Don't kid yourself; the lack of decent mosquito-
                          abatement programs in poor countries has virtually
                          nothing to do with the ban on DDT.  -tom
                 \_ You know that DDT is still used for vector control
                    in quite a few countries, right? It is just not
                    sprayed indescriminately for ag use the way it used
                    to be. Is there some weird Right Wing meme about DDT
                    these days or something? Did Rush start talking about
                    it on his show or something? For some reason, I have
                    heard a lot about it lately.
                    it on his show? For some reason, I have heard a lot
                    about it lately.
                    \- It's not much of a contemporary issue and is not a
                       right wing issue.  But there are a number of issues
                       common to global warming: who will bear the present
                       costs, technology vs behavior change as an issue,
                       future discount, future discount incorporating
                       differntial impact and resources etc. There are also
                       some analogous problems when it comes to antibiotics ...
                       but I'm trying to avoid getting into long motd
                       conversations, so i'll leave it at that.
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