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2009/1/27-2/1 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:52477 Activity:kinda low
1/27    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090127/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_gaza_challenged_8
        In one classroom Saturday, when UNRWA schools reopened, a Palestinian
        teacher was filmed asking children about their trauma during the war.
        The unidentified teacher then told the children that Palestinians have
        to "wage war against them (Israelis) until they leave their land," and
        asked her students, aged about 8, how they should react.

        Two children in the class suggested hurling stones or rockets back at
        Israel. "Okay," the teacher said, apparently summing up her class'
        position. "We throw rockets at them, we throw stones at them," she
        said.
        \_ Yawn
        \_ Yes, the appropriate response to invasion by foreigners is
           surrender! How dare they defend themselves?
           \_ Would you like freedom fries with that?
           \_ I wouldn't ever advise kids to throw rocks at an army.  Maybe the
              teacher should be throwing rocks at Hamas (their elected gov't).
                \_ right! we got rid of our moron leader Bush.. they should
                 do the same or stfu
           \_ Who is the foreigner? The land belongs to both. However, only
              one side is willing to accept the presence of the other.
              \_ Complete bullshit.  c.f. "right of return".  Also, there are
                 Israelis who don't accept the presence of the Arabs.  Clearly
                 the Palestinians have by far the worse situation, they have
                 the worst land, are poor, and live under a sort of Israeli
                 lockdown.  So it's not really surprising that Israel is more
                 accepting of this situation.
                 But this is how peace always works.  It takes one side or the
                 other to basically give up.  But this only works when there is
                 a viable alternative path, like Germany and Japan after WWII
                 were pretty fucked, especially Germany, but there was an
                 economic path to prosperity.  The Palestinians' situation is
                 being in disjointed non-nation territories with various
                 instances of Israeli settlement and security checkpoints etc.
                 \_ Israel has a rather large Palestinian population (20%) and
                    Palestinians are represented in the Knesset. There is
                    no reason why the Palestinians cannot live in Israel.
                    As for 'right of return' they mostly left on their own
                    accord fearing that Israelis would be as barbaric as they
                    are and most of them don't want back. They want their
                    own State, which they already fought for and lost.
                    \_ Isreal will not let them back, that is why they
                       cannot live in Israel. Some left in 48, some were
                       forcibly moved and most were born since then.
                       \_ If they were born since then how can they "go back"?
                          Can Americans go back to England? Can Mexicans
                          go back to Spain? They are being ridiculous.
                          \_ How could the Jews "go back" to "their" holy land.
                             \_ Thank the Brits.
                          \_ Germans can "go back" to Germany, even the ones
                             born two generations after their grandparents
                             were shipped by Stalin to the Urals. Many other
                             countries use Jus sanguinis (nationality by
                             blood) rather than Jus soli (nationality by
                             place of birth) even the US, to a certain
                             extent.
        \_ can I say Israel is a "racist" nation just because by definition
           it is a "Jewish" state?   It is well known that Palestinians in
           Israel doesn't have the same right as regular Jews.
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Slideshow: Israeli troops invade Gaza JEBALIYA REFUGEE CAMP, Gaza Strip - Crouching against piled mattresses in a room crammed with refugees, Bissan Abu al-Eish focused on her homework, blocking out the relentless shrieks of dozens of toddlers and the stench of overflowing latrines. "I'm so happy to be studying," said the 9-year-old girl, bent over the new textbook she received this weekend when classes resumed for 200,000 Gaza children at United Nations facilities. Beyond being schooled by the UN, Abu al-Eish and her seven siblings eat the agency's food, wear its clothing and now live in one of its buildings after their own house was leveled during Israeli bombardments on Gaza. Hamas may be politically in charge of the Gaza Strip, but it's to the UN's relief agency that the majority of the 14 million Gazans turn for health care, garbage collection, food assistance and just about every other service usually provided by a state. With much of the territory devastated by Israel's latest military offensive, the agency's job is bound to get even bigger. Many expect the UN's agency for Palestinians to take the lead in reconstruction, though its role is currently limited to the refugee camps that house more than 1 million of Gaza's population. The UN spearheading efforts to rebuild Gaza could open a door to international donors, many of whom don't want to give Hamas money because the group doesn't recognize Israel and is considered a terror organization by the US and European Union. It is estimated that $2 billion is needed to repair the 21,000 homes damaged or destroyed, along with factories and government buildings, in the three-week Israeli attack to end Hamas' rocket-firing. Fundraising has hardly begun, and the question of how the money will be funneled remains unanswered. "We're delivering the services of a state, until the state is established," John Ging, the head of Gaza operations for the UN Relief and Works Agency, UNRWA, told The Associated Press this weekend. At the same time, it must exist side-by-side with Hamas' government -- and take care to maintain its neutrality, which some Israelis question. In one classroom Saturday, when UNRWA schools reopened, a Palestinian teacher was filmed asking children about their trauma during the war. The unidentified teacher then told the children that Palestinians have to "wage war against them (Israelis) until they leave their land," and asked her students, aged about 8, how they should react. Two children in the class suggested hurling stones or rockets back at Israel. "Okay," the teacher said, apparently summing up her class' position. "We throw rockets at them, we throw stones at them," she said. 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