11/14 lulz why doesn't GOOG buy JAVA i mean SUN i mean whatever the hell they
are these days.
\_ Even GOOG isn't THAT stupid
\_ Sorry, but WHY would Google do something like that? They
run 99.2% Linux servers on the backend. They don't use
Solaris for development. I mean, what does Sun have to
offer to anyone these days?
\_ ZFS, some SMP goodness, a quality OS, some neat stuff
like containers, Java, and MySQL but I'll admit it's not
much which is why the price is where it is. Sun has more
to offer than Apple does in terms of technology, but
can't seem to connect with users the way Apple does.
\_ Apple is a consumer electronics company, not a
technology company. Sun's "quality" OS is being
phased out virtually everywhere it's implemented. -tom
\_ It is true that Solaris is dying, but it is not because
it is inferior.
\_ So? It's proprietary, it's slow-moving, it's
expensive. If they'd community-sourced it 10 years
ago it might have beat out Linux, but at this point
it's dead. -tom
\_ It's not proprietary nor expensive. I'm not
sure what slow-moving means in this context.
\_ It's not proprietary? I can release
"Tom's Kewl Solaris Distribution," and
mirror all the patches Sun puts out? Don't
think so. Slow-moving means it's slow to
support new hardware, it's slow to get vendor
support for commercial/propietary applications,
it has poor support from most open source
packages as well. -tom
\_ People do that with Redhat all the time.
\_ Google is fundamentally an advertisement company. Sun is a
computer hardware company. What kind of "synergy" you are thinking
again?
\_ I would say Sun is a software company at this point.
\_ I work at the software side of Sun. and don't I wish
Sun is a software company. But consider that almost 90% of
the revenue is coming from hardware sales, I would consider
it is still a hardware company more than anything else.
\_ And yet it's not, because SPARC is all-but-dead. The
only value-added Sun has is in software. They better
figure that out right quick.
\_ This is similar to the problem Apple faced in
the mid 90s. People were saying they needed to
license the OS to grow the market share for the
platform, but 80%+ of company revenues were from
hardware. They licensed the OS, got taken to
the cleaners by clone makers, and tanked badly
while failing to grow market share. Jobs came
in and focused the company on hardware, found an
effective niche and has been quite successful.
If Sun were to transition from being a hardware
company to being a software company, they'd have
to be prepared to cut 50%+ of their workforce,
and make a strong case for why the new software
company is something that businesses should be
investing in, which will be difficult since
businesses are currently deciding to get rid of
Sun software. Sun actually has some decent
commodity Intel servers these days, but that's
not going to save them. -tom |
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