Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 51950
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2018/07/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2008/11/12 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/Military] UID:51950 Activity:nil 66%like:51955
        USSC hates whales.
2018/07/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

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Los Angeles Times Obama Headline Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times Jordan Bennett looks for whales and dolphins during exercises aboard the destroyer Momsen in January. Email Picture Rick Loomis / Los Angeles Times Jordan Bennett looks for whales and dolphins during exercises aboard the destroyer Momsen in January. By David G Savage and Kenneth R Weiss November 13, 2008 Reporting from Los Angeles and Washington -- Despite the Supreme Court's ruling Wednesday that the nation's security outweighs the need to protect marine mammals from high-powered sonar during Navy training exercises, environmentalists said the fight was far from over. The court immediately lifted limits on the Navy exercises now being held 12 miles off the Southern California coast, in a victory for the outgoing Bush administration. But the decision doesn't bind the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama to follow the same policy. Another set of Navy exercises is scheduled for February. "We don't know what the Supreme Court decision means for the next go-round. It's a new game," said Mark Delaplaine, an analyst with the California Coastal Commission. Lawrence J Korb, a former Defense Department official who has been an advisor to the Obama campaign, said, "This says the Navy can do this. wrote that the Navy needs to train its crews to detect modern, silent submarines, and it cannot be forced to turn off its sonar when whales are spotted nearby. "The public interest in conducting training exercises with active sonar under realistic conditions plainly outweighs" the concerns voiced by environmentalists, he said, speaking for a five-justice majority. This "does not strike us as a close question," he added. Environmentalists contend that the sonar has a possible deafening effect on the whales. Roberts questioned whether whales have indeed been harmed by sonar. 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