Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 51650
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
 
WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ
http://csua.com/feed/
2025/05/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
5/25    

2008/10/23-27 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:51650 Activity:nil
10/23   Actually, Mormons contributing 77% of pro-prop 8 funds
        http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid64163.asp
        \_ what would Jesus ban?  -tom
           \_ Apparently, someone felt it was important to censor
              my comment that the Mormon church has taken up
              the torch of intolerance.  Truth hurts, eh?  How about
              trying to justify Mormons as being 'pro family'?  You'd
              be wrong, but at least you wouldn't be a censorfuck.
                --PeterM
              \_ Since this comment is still here, you were probably just
                 squished.  Get over it.
2025/05/25 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
5/25    

You may also be interested in these entries...
2014/1/7-2/5 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China, Reference/Religion] UID:54762 Activity:nil
1/7     Are you from a family of Mormons, Cuban exiles, Nigerian Americans,
        Indian Americans, Chinese Americans, American Jews, Iranian Americans
        or Lebanese Americans?
        http://www.csua.org/u/123d (shine.yahoo.com)
        \_ Somehow she misssed WASP Episcopalians.
	...
2013/5/28-7/3 [Reference/Religion] UID:54684 Activity:nil
5/28    San Francisco, 24% very religious:
        http://www.theatlanticcities.com/neighborhoods/2013/04/americas-most-and-least-religious-metro-areas/5180
        \_ I expected Boulder, CO, being in the Mid-West, to be pretty
           religious.  Yet it's only 17%.
           \_ God damn hippies.
        \_ It says religiousity is negatively associated with "the share of
	...
2013/3/29-5/18 [Reference/Religion, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:54643 Activity:nil
3/29    Old news but HITLERISM IS BACK!
        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/29/circumcision-ban-ignites-a-religious-battle-in-ger/?page=all
        \_ The "religious-battle-in-ger" part in the URL is funny.  "ger" in
           Cantonese happens to refer to the male genital.
	...
2012/12/28-2013/1/24 [Reference/Religion] UID:54570 Activity:nil
12/28   Looking for a religiousness density map based on county. Is there
        one out there?
        \_ Try http://search.census.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&affiliate=census&query=religion+by+county
           \_ Public Law 94-521 prohibits us from asking a question on religious
              affiliation on a mandatory basis; therefore, the Bureau of the Census
              is not the source for information on religion.
	...
2012/12/30-2013/1/24 [Reference/Religion, Health/Women] UID:54571 Activity:nil
12/30   Women on jdate look hot. Do I need to give up bacon to
        date them?
        \_ http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-04-10
        \_ Don't know, but you may have to give up your foreskin to date them.
           \_ I think this is a deal breaker for most men, and why
              throughout history Christianity always overwhelms Judaism.
	...
2012/12/5-18 [Reference/Religion] UID:54547 Activity:nil
12/5    Why the hell are there so many Christians in the Fremont area?
        \_ Really?  I know there are a lot of Chinese- and Indian-Americans.
           Fremont is also the city with the highest Afghan- population in the
           U.S., but their numbers are no match to the Chinese- and Indian-
           there.
           \_ a lot of Chinese Christians there.
	...
2012/8/21-11/7 [Reference/Law, Reference/RealEstate] UID:54462 Activity:nil
8/21    I'm trying to negotiate rent renewal and my manager came
        back saying she can't do that due to Fair Housing Laws
        that states that if they adjust price for one person
        they need to adjust price for everyone else. Is this
        an actual law or some bullshit she just made up?
        \_ Probably bullshit.
	...
2010/11/2-2011/1/13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/President/Reagan] UID:54001 Activity:nil
11/2    California Uber Alles is such a great song
        \_ Yes, and it was written about Jerry Brown. I was thinking this
           as I cast my vote for Meg Whitman. I am independent, but I
           typically vote Democrat (e.g., I voted for Boxer). However, I
           can't believe we elected this retread.
           \_ You voted for the billionaire that ran HP into the ground
	...
2010/8/29-9/30 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:53942 Activity:kinda low
8/29    OC turning liberal, maybe there is hope for CA afterall:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/us/politics/30orange.html
        \_ and the state is slowly turning conservative. Meg 2010!
           \_ We will see. Seems unlikely.
        \_ Yeah, because CA sure has a problem with not enough dems in power!
           If only dems had been running the state for the last 40 years!
	...
2010/7/15-8/11 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:53885 Activity:nil
7/15    "Mom jailed over sex with 14-year-old son"
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38217476/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts
        \_ I just bought a hot homeless teen runaway lunch.
           Am i going to jail?
           \_ Was she 18?
        \_ FYI people "MILF" doesn't always mean what you think it means.
	...
2010/4/15-5/10 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:53786 Activity:nil
4/15    Guess who is not on this list (States with worst projected deficits):
        http://www.cnbc.com/id/36510805?slide=1
        \_ Don't know how CA missed that list; we're looking at a $20B deficit
           on $82.9B spending (24.1%)  -tom
           \_ Even if that number is accurate, it makes California #7. That's
              enlightening given the attenion California has received.
	...
2009/9/2-9 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:53319 Activity:low
9/2     California will survive its crackup:
        http://tinyurl.com/qfzdpn
        \_ not if we can help it.
        \_ I like the comparison with Italy.  Maybe someday we can have
          dozens of political parties fighting!  yay chaos!!
          \_ Do you think Italian people have a lower quality of life than
	...
2009/8/12-9/1 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold, Politics/Domestic/California/Prop] UID:53268 Activity:moderate
8/12    Thanks for destroying the world's finest public University!
        http://tinyurl.com/kr92ob (The Economist)
        \_ Why not raise tuition? At private universities, students generate
           revenue. Students should not be seen as an expense. UC has
           been a tremendous bargain for most of its existence. It's time
           to raise tuition to match the perceived quality of the
	...
2009/8/14-9/1 [Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:53270 Activity:low
8/14    How California's Lock-Em-Up Mentality actually makes crime worse:
        http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111843426
        \_ Sounds nice, but the stats say the crime rate is better since
           we started locking them up.
           \_ You should look up "correlation and causation."
              \_ Just because they are not necessarily correlated doesn't
	...
2009/4/21-28 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:52885 Activity:kinda low
4/21    Real Per Capita spending in CA budget:
        http://www.lao.ca.gov/2008/spend_plan/fig_6.jpg
        Note that is is flat, which is the opposite of what we have
        been repeatedly told on the motd.
        \_ Does capita take in account for unaccounted illegal immigrants?
                                                                -Dr. jblack
	...
2009/2/27-3/6 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/Tax] UID:52655 Activity:low
2/27    CA unemployment increases from 9.3% to 10.1% for Jan
        \_ Good thing the legislature passed the biggest tax increase in
           history!  That should solve it.
           \_ because cutting taxes has done such a great job so far!
                \_ it has.. giving mortgages to poor folks did us in
                   \_ 100% horseshit.
	...
Cache (8192 bytes)
www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid64163.asp
Tag this page October 22, 2008 Mormons Bankroll Anti-Gay Marriage Amendments in California, Arizona The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has mobilized followers to give an estimated 77% of donations to support California's proposed marriage ban. "It is a staggering amount of money and an even more staggering percentage of the overall campaign receipts," Fred Karger of Californians Against Hate said in a press release. "The Mormon Church, based in Salt Lake City, Utah, has hijacked the campaigns in both California and Arizona, where voters face constitutional amendments to end same-sex marriage." Karger said Californians Against Hate came up with the figures by cross-referencing donor information from the California secretary of state with Brigham Young University alumni lists, church memberships, and other personal documentation that could identify Mormon Church members. He said the surge in support has been an attempt to boost the church's social standing among the greater religious community. "For whatever reason, they're trying to get some respect from other religions," he told The Advocate Tuesday. "They've always been looked down upon by the Christians, the Catholics, and evangelicals." Success with the marriage amendment would give the church credibility, Karger said. The Latter-day Saints Church says it has approximately 770,000 members in California, accounting for about 2% of the state's population. Senior church elders broadcast a call to Mormons October 8 for increased volunteer efforts and donations for the marriage fight. The hour-long message went out to churches in Utah, Hawaii, and Idaho as well as California. Members of the Quorum of Twelve Apostles, the second-highest church governing body, explained their plan to pass the ballot initiative. They asked each California congregation to commit 30 volunteers to donate four hours a week to Proposition 8 They also urged young people to use technology -- such as social networks, text messaging, and blogging -- to spread the word. Print this article Reader Comments These comments are reproduced as written by visitors to this Web site. They have not been edited for content, grammar, or spelling. Post a Comment Name: LH Date posted: 2008-10-23 2:17 PM Hometown: San Diego Comment: Marriage is defined as a union between a man and woman. Same sex couples are demanding that society elevate homosexuality. Same sex marriages already have he benefits of traditional marriage. Homosexuality is the conduct of engaging in sodomy (homosexual relations) with members of the same sex. Civil rights, on the other hand, are also known as natural rights, because they are based on things that cannot be changed or chosen. The whole idea of civil rights is that our civil government will respect, approve and award protected status to persons who are born with certain unchangeable qualities. This is why civil rights law prohibits discrimination based on race, ethnicity and nationality, sex and age all immutable characteristics. There are thousands of former homosexuals, but no former blacks or Hispanics. Post a Comment Name: Heather Date posted: 2008-10-23 2:02 PM Hometown: Concord Comment: No funds from the church are going towards the support of prop 8, the money is coming solely from it's members on a volunteer basis. Members of the mormon church are not paid a dime to run the church, it's programs, maintain it's buildings, etc. The organization and the willingness of the church's members have made this campaign so successful thus far. Zak, please try to be more informed when posting comments and refer to Cody's comment in which she said "Personal insults only weaken one's argument." Post a Comment Name: Zak Date posted: 2008-10-23 1:50 PM Hometown: Atlanta Comment: Simply put, if any church has the money to support legislation, they should lose their non profit status and pay taxes like any other business. Any other non-profit is forbidden to lobby any legislation or support a specific candidate. Post a Comment Name: Cody Date posted: 2008-10-23 8:48 AM Hometown: Orlando Comment: Why is it that none of the people posting in support of prop 8 are angry or rude; yet every person posting in opposition to prop 8 are insulting and inflammatory? Post a Comment Name: Jeff C Date posted: 2008-10-23 5:50 AM Hometown: Texas Comment: Why are people saying that the Mormon church is supporting Proposition 8 in an attempt to gain some respect from other religions? This is ludicrous, and is about as silly as saying that people who don't support Prop 8 are ALL GAY. Maybe the reason the LDS church is supporting Proposition 8 is because they realize that same sex marriages go directly against what the bible teaches. Post a Comment Name: Angela Date posted: 2008-10-23 3:26 AM Hometown: Chicago Comment: Let me clear up some inaccuracies here. Members are never forced to do anything they don't want to do, such as get married--it is their choice who and when they marry. They are also free to leave the church at any time they choose. Mormons DO believe in standing up for what they believe to be correct and true, as did ancient prophets of old, who were also scorned by the populace. That is what is wonderful about this country, that everyone is allowed to have an opinion, whether or not it is popular, and this is the point of voting on issues, isn't it? Please don't censor or insult something you don't understand. Instead, seek to understand by doing your research before spreading inaccuracies born from ignorance. Post a Comment Name: Daniel Date posted: 2008-10-22 9:44 PM Hometown: Orlando Comment: It's amazing to me that so-called evangelical Christians are willing to work directly with what many of them consider to be a cult. This won't gain the Mormons any respect from the evangelicals, but people like the Baptists don't mind using them. Post a Comment Name: Joy Date posted: 2008-10-22 5:21 PM Hometown: Los Angeles Comment: Heather is right. Both sides are standing up for their constitutional rights. The Yes on Prop 8 side is motivated by their desire to preserve their First Amendment rights of freedom of religion, speech and association. The No on Prop 8 side is motivated to preserve what 4 judges on the CA Supreme Court determined to be their constitutional right to marry. it goes to show everyone that the Mormon Church leads through intimidation and intolerance and appalling control. They've been looking into other people's beds for years and giving unenlightened opinions. The old saying from William Shakespeare still applies to them: "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." Post a Comment Name: gloria Date posted: 2008-10-22 2:51 PM Hometown: arkansas Comment: how long does it take people to learn that mormons think they run the country. it used to be free until the mormons started going around the cound with all the saying of the words of joseph smith to be true. as for marriage how many wifes did brigham young have 19 teen. and once a mormon mans wife passes away they should not be allowed to remarry. Post a Comment Name: Roger Burr Date posted: 2008-10-22 2:50 PM Hometown: Marble Hill, MO Comment: Michael from Boston is right! While I don't begrudge anyone their religous beliefs, or absence thereof, 'religion' has been used innumerable times over the centuries to subjugate one group or another. What we need to do is have them submit to an IRS audit, as they have CLEARLY crossed the line between church and state by espousing a specific political view. Notwithstanding, every LGBT person should support the NO on 8 effort, as I have even from here in Missouri. Post a Comment Name: Michael Date posted: 2008-10-22 1:09 PM Hometown: Boston Comment: Heather- The difference is, their "personal beliefs" that they are "standing up for" infringe on other people's lives (by denying them the right to marry who they love). Post a Comment Name: Heather Date posted: 2008-10-22 12:44 PM Hometown: Concord Comment: Wow this is really disturbing. Here, No on Prop 8 is promoting equality for all and love for everyone and I am reading comments by supporters of this blasting a religion for standing up for their person...