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2008/10/9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51453 Activity:moderate
10/9    McCain is STILL lieing about the bridge to nowhere?  What the hell?
        http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/mccain-bridge-lie
        \_ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/09/mccain-bridge-lie
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Sarah Palin said "thank but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere. John McCain (R-AZ) brought the line back, claiming that Palin "stood up against" the project: MCCAIN: Let me mention to you one more time, the earmarks and pork-barrel spending very quickly because, because, it is so important because it is not only gotten out of control, but it's end up with members of Congress residing in federal prison cause it's corrupting and it's your money and they think it's their's. And we've had a Bridge to Nowhere, $233 million bridge in Alaska, which I'm glad, happy to say, this governor stood up against. October 9th, 2008 at 2:12 pm 2 Blade Says: I am more interested in the absolute incoherency of his statement. My mother was and English teacher, and I think she MAY have a few problems with this. I tired to read the statements before watching, and I got lost a time or two. October 9th, 2008 at 2:12 pm 3 MCMetal Says: It's a terrific sign when you spew the same debunked lie , McDepends , and bloviate about earmarks and pork-barrel spending , after voting FOR the Bail-Out bill that included almost $150 BILLION in earmarks and pork barrel projects ............. October 9th, 2008 at 2:16 pm 7 MCMetal Says: Meanwhile , out on the campaign trail , McDepends is prattling on endlessly about Obama's lack of "honesty" with the American people in not being forthcoming in regards to his "true relationship" with William Ayers ............ October 9th, 2008 at 2:18 pm 8 ADDdaddy Says: MCCAIN: Let me mention to you one more time, the earmarks and pork-barrel spending very quickly because, because, it is so important because it is not only gotten out of control, but it's end up with members of Congress residing in federal prison cause it's corrupting and it's your money and they think it's there's. And we've had a Bridge to Nowhere, $233 million bridge in Alaska, which I'm glad, happy to say, this governor stood up against. machost Says: I really, REALLY, believe this man is suffering rapid onset dementia. His whole "fellow prisoners" thing yesterday, his constant gaffes and mental wanderings. I really think his handlers are working overtime trying to re-spin the crap that comes out when he opens his mouth. Perhaps we'll see books when it's all over about the challenges they faced trying to keep the old codger's diapers clean. but it's end up with members of Congress residing in federal prison cause it's corrupting and it's your money and they think it's there's. There is not one member of Congress who is in prison because of earmarks. I think that Obama really missed an opportunity at the last debate. He should have said firmly that the amount spent on earmarks is XXXXX dollars which is XXX% of our budget. Then he should have gone on to say that not all earmarks are bad. He could also say that some are frivolous and should never be funded. He could then go on to say that as President, he will sponsor two "earmark" bills a year where states ask for projects to be funded. They will be totally transparent and only be in specific bills for earmarks. There are many very worthy projects that have been funded through earmarks. The way McCain says it, they are all worthless and frivolous. A Patriot Acting Says: McCain claims Palin 'stood up against' this project. Well if by standing against it you mean that she helped to support it then yeah, I guess you're right! For months pretty much everything out of his mouth has either been made up as he goes along, or just an outright lie. I cannot believe anyone with a single ounce of common sense is taking this liar seriously. ralph the wonder llama Says: I've noticed a very potent strategy employed by the Right in cases like this; they don't make a simple false statement that can be debunked on one straightforward point. No, they've discovered that it's much more effective if they craft a convoluted statement of such disparate threads of falsity that opponents (i. e, those that care about the Truth) much choose which angle of attack will yield the best outcome. This disperses the damage and dilutes the attacks, thus allowing confusion to come to their aid. Since their adherents are intolerant of overlapping arguments, they will instinctively seek the position that makes them feel better and makes their head stop hurting. For instance, one could attack the Bridge to Nowhere claim on the basis of a lie about Palin's "maverickiness" -- she supported it until it became politically untenable. Or one could attack it based on its false conclusion -- since the money was appropriated anyway and went to different projects, Gov. Palin's timely opposition didn't save the American taxpayer a dime. But those two narratives collide slightly, and that slight collision is all a wingnut needs to retreat back into his secure location and mumble about how Palin is a Maverick(TM) and so's her old man. It's a very clever strategy, if you've got no actual facts on your side. MCMetal Says: Is someone ever going to explain to McDepends that eliminating earmarks altogether would simply give federal agencies authority over how taxpayer dollars are spent ? tom Says: Seriously, McNumbNuts is down to the stems and seeds. It is really sad to see him savage and squander what little was left of his self-styled and phony profile. There should be no one left to wonder about his motivation and lack of honesty. The man is a complete and total whore who should be removed from the Senate and never permitted to set foot in the Oval Office even as a visitor. I am beginning to think that the desperation is so thick and his anger is under such pressure that we could truly see a blow-up and/or total melt-down at the next presidential debate. In the last poll, Teddy Boy Stevens, the Godfather of the bridge and having his house lifted by VECO is now a point ahead in his race for retaining his seat in the Senate. I guess it takes a special kind of LIV in Alaska to keep bringing these scumbags back in office. krdaddy Says: This absurd claim has been put to rest by inumerable fact-based investigations. Only the woefully uninformed or doggedly loyal lock-steppers could possibly think this phoney talking point will translate into a winning strategy. kasinca Says: Newsflash for the McSameiacs: We have had a lying SOB in the White House for the past eight years and we will not tolerate another lying SOB even if he is old, senile, and was a POW FORTY FREAKING YEARS AGO! chriswithstix Says: i hate to even bring up clinton, but wasn't the right's main problem with the entire affair the LYING. i can't even remember how many times that my fundie-in-laws told me they just couldn't trust bill because he was a liar. Q U E S T I O N: With the influence of "CONSERVATIVES" over the last 30 years, especially these last 8 years, why isn't the term "Conservative" a dirty word by now? Q U E S T I O N: With the influence of "CONSERVATIVES" over the last 30 years, especially these last 8 years, why isn't the term "Conservative" a dirty word by now? bentley1 Says: Geez, they even pulled that lie out of his campaign ads. The right wingers are really running on empty at this point. One good thing is the more Mcsame opens his mouth the more you can see he really has no sense of decency, never has. Game of Life Says: Why do repugs pronounce "government" as govment? Listening to limpydic, mcchimpy, chimpy and other repugs pronounce this word makes me wonder if this a repug kinda flag-pin-ish, coded, bs thing. He could then go on to say that as President, he will sponsor two "earmark" bills a year where states ask for projects to be funded. They will be totally transparent and only be in specific bills for earmarks. There are many very worthy projects that have been funded through earmarks. The way McCain says it, they are all worthless and frivolous. If the earmarks in your suggestion are "totally transparent" and "only in specific bills," then are they really earmarks anymore? but, as I understand it, she kept the bridge money anyway, and put it in Alaska's state coffers. So, it's not like she actually saved the federal taxpayers anything.