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2008/10/6-9 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:51408 Activity:moderate
10/6    I was only 9 when Obama's friend tried to kill me.
        http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html
        \_ Either you believe this attack has any validity and are therefore
           too stupid to breathe or you reek of desperation and flop sweat.
           Which one is it?
        \_ So what are you conservatives going to say when a friend of the WU,
           a reknowned Marxist and the most liberal member of the Senate wins
           the Presidency in a landslide? Will you finally admit your ideology
           a Marxist and the most liberal member of the Senate wins the
           Presidency in a landslide? Will you finally realize your ideology
           is destined for the junk bin of history?
           \_ Funny words from a guy who has to keep pulling his ideology
              out of the dustbin.
              \_ That was non-responsive, but I can answer the question for
                 you, if you like, because I have spent the time and effort
                 to figure out what makes Conservatives tick.
        \_ How old were you when Ayers co-authored an Annenberg grant that
           netted nearly $50m over five years for the ailing Chicago school
           system? How old were you when he became a Distinguished Prof at
           UI Chicago?
           \_ So murder is okay in your eyes if you get some grant money?
                \_ Murder is always OK so long as you're one of the wealthy
                   elite.  OJ Simpson and the Bush Administration are proof.
              \_ No one was killed or even hurt by Ayers.
                 \_ So attempted murder is okay?
                 \_ Tell that to Diana Oughton
                    \_ "Oughton died in an explosion on March 6, 1970, in the
                        Greenwich Village townhouse explosion in New York
                        City, when a bomb she was constructing with Terry
                        Robbins accidentally detonated, destroying the
                        building and killing her, Robbins, and Ted Gold."
                        Waiting for explanation of Ayers' guilt here.
                        \- Nice of Hillary Clinton [the extreme liar]
                           to lay the groundwork for MCCAIN INC on this
                           one ... rewatch the PA Debate [sic] ...
                           "Barak, people died".
           \_ The $50M went to typical radical causes.  And even CNN has called
              Obama a liar on this.  Check out Anderson Cooper:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ
              \_ CNN's called Obama a liar on what?
           \_ $50 mil he completely wasted which did no good for any student.
              There's a recommendation!
              \_ Dude, he raised the money; if it was squandered, look to the
                 Administrators.
                 \_ You mean Obama?
                    \_ You mean you think Obama was the Superintendent of the
                       Chicago Unified School District?
                       \_ No, he was the chairman of the Chicago Anneberg
                          challenge.  He decided when the money went.  Sorry,
                          we've been over this before, and I don't have time
                          right now.  Go look up where Obama spent the $100
                          million.  It's very interesting.
                          \_ Yeah it is interesting and it looks like it was
                             a good experiment. How many billions get wasted
                             every week on Bush's little "experiment" in Iraq?
                             I would rather spend the money here, trying to
                             improve Chicago schools, but this is an area where
                             we obviously differ.
                             \_ Nice red herring.  In any case, those who
                                are stupid in small things, are also stupid
                                in large things.
                                \_ You mean like the Bush/McCain/Palin ticket?
                                   \_ No, like you apparently.  Sheesh. Bush/
                                      McCain/Palin ticket. Really.
                                      \_ You are right, I forgot Cheney.
        \_ Dittohead Desperation Level: Red
           \_ what is the level beyond Red?
             \_ There's a Paranoia joke here, but I'm too drunk to make a
                good one.  Damn you beer.
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John M Murtagh Fire in the Night The Weathermen tried to kill my family. They bombed the Pentagon, the Capitol, and other buildings. Stephanopoulos then asked Obama to explain his relationship with Ayers. Obama's answer: "The notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was eight years old, somehow reflects on me and my values, doesn't make much sense, George." I was only nine then, the year Ayers's Weathermen tried to murder me. In February 1970, my father, a New York State Supreme Court justice, was presiding over the trial of the so-called "Panther 21," members of the Black Panther Party indicted in a plot to bomb New York landmarks and department stores. Early on the morning of February 21, as my family slept, three gasoline-filled firebombs exploded at our home on the northern tip of Manhattan, two at the front door and the third tucked neatly under the gas tank of the family car. That was an act whose courage I fully appreciated only as an adult, an act that doubtless saved multiple lives that night. I still recall, as though it were a dream, thinking that someone was lifting and dropping my bed as the explosions jolted me awake, and I remember my mother's pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn't leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside. The same night, bombs were thrown at a police car in Manhattan and two military recruiting stations in Brooklyn. Sunlight, the next morning, revealed three sentences of blood-red graffiti on our sidewalk: FREE THE PANTHER 21; For the next 18 months, I went to school in an unmarked police car. My mother, a schoolteacher, had plainclothes detectives waiting in the faculty lounge all day. My brother saved a few bucks because he didn't have to rent a limo for the senior prom: the NYPD did the driving. We all made the best of the odd new life that had been thrust upon us, but for years, the sound of a fire truck's siren made my stomach knot and my heart race. In many ways, the enormity of the attempt to kill my entire family didn't fully hit me until years later, when, a father myself, I was tucking my own nine-year-old John Murtagh into bed. Though no one was ever caught or tried for the attempt on my family's life, there was never any doubt who was behind it. Only a few weeks after the attack, the New York contingent of the Weathermen blew themselves up making more bombs in a Greenwich Village townhouse. The same cell had bombed my house, writes Ron Jacobs in The Way the Wind Blew: A History of the Weather Underground. And in late November that year, a letter to the Associated Press signed by Bernardine Dohrn, Ayers's wife, promised more bombings. As the association between Obama and Ayers came to light, it would have helped the senator a little if his friend had at least shown some remorse. But listen to Ayers interviewed in the New York Times on September 11, 2001, of all days: "I don't regret setting bombs. Translation: "We meant to kill that judge and his family, not just damage the porch." When asked by the Times if he would do it all again, Ayers responded: "I don't want to discount the possibility." Though never a supporter of Obama, I admired him for a time for his ability to engage our imaginations, and especially for his ability to inspire the young once again to embrace the political system. Yet his myopia in the last few months has cast a new light on his "politics of change." Nobody should hold the junior senator from Illinois responsible for his friends' and supporters' violent terrorist acts. But it is fair to hold him responsible for a startling lack of judgment in his choice of mentors, associates, and friends, and for showing a callous disregard for the lives they damaged and the hatred they have demonstrated for this country. It is fair, too, to ask what those choices say about Obama's own beliefs, his philosophy, and the direction he would take our nation. At the conclusion of his 2001 Times interview, Ayers said of his upbringing and subsequent radicalization: "I was a child of privilege and I woke up to a world on fire." Funny thing, Bill: one night, so did I John M Murtagh is a practicing attorney, an adjunct professor of public policy at the Fordham University College of Liberal Studies, and a member of the city council in Yonkers, New York, where he resides with his wife and two sons.
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Good comment Marked as spam Reply yeah "vigilante", the libs had this info in their back pocket, just waiting to release it and try to "smear" Palin. because it's digusting and he loses this argument every time. Good comment Marked as spam Reply Palin does not associate with people that attack America. They may hate DC corruption, like many of us do, but give us an example of Palin's friends bombing anything or killing innocent people and police! Good comment Marked as spam Reply On 9-11-01, Ayers glorified bombing US. This is all during Hussein Obama's political friendship with him, so stop with the obama was 8 years old and this was 30 yrs ago bullshit. Good comment Marked as spam Reply Maybe you should also look into Palins friends as well. Like her husbands friends who are domestic terrorists that would like Alaska to break away from the United States. Good comment Marked as spam Reply Obama has very poor discernment in choosing his friends and associates - Ayers, Rev Wright, Rezko and that guy that paid his way through Harvard. Good comment Marked as spam Reply "he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous." I never knew there was a statute of limitations for terrorists. I guess if Osama Bin Laden decides to turn a new leaf in another 32 years, Barack Obama can work with him also, for the common good of needy children. Good comment Marked as spam Reply nodem:Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous."