9/29    "This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics
        ahead of country," McCain spokesman Holtz-Eakin said.
        A majority of House Democrats supported the proposal and the majority
        of House Republicans opposed it. A total of 133 House Republicans
        voted against it, with 95 Democrats opposing the plan.
        \_ obama and mccain both need to be kicked in the head.  they both
           still support the bailout in its current form.
           \- look, there are some dems being slightly difficult trying
              to make sweeping changes to mortgages and even more so bank-
              ruptcy laws. but they are not any where near proposing insane
              things like "capital gain taxes to free frozen capital" ...
              which is basically a step away from "let's sell hawaii to
              dubai". if you cant see the difference, you are truly a
              dumbfuck. unfortunately there are a lot of you, including
              the alaskan lipstick pig. as long as these people are pulling
              the debate ... i hate to say rightward ... since this is
              really outer space beyond anything in the reasonable spectrum...
              it distorts the jockeying toward something acceptable.
              it distorts the jockeying toward something acceptable. obama
              in a sense has little to do given that pelosi and frank etc
              are negotiating in good faith, have supportive of bernanke
              and paulson, and keeping the dems if line better than the
              republicans are. even junior bush isnt being that awkful.
              the republicans nuts are the problem, and that is a problem
              for mccain and the republican leadership [i dont think mitch
              mcconnel is front and center on this, but a lot of the nuts
              in this case are in the R leadership]. but in no sense is there
              obama - mccain equivalence, or dem/rep equivalnence.
              \_ i see the difference and i think am in agreement w/you -pp
              \_ further proof that liberals can't spell and indent and
                 capitalize because they think they're special
                 \- nobody called me a liberal until i began to rant against
                    these incompetent, lying assholes.
              \-BTW, i dont think the current bill is "socialist"/hardass
                enough, but i am not sure if doing nothing is better than
                the current plan [i.e. cost the wall street and equity owners
                what they should pay, but risk the unemployment rate going
                up a few percent]. i think the real intervetion needs to
                look like the WBUFFET "aid package" to GS ... tap their
                cash flow in a bond-like way, and get equity stake ...
                but again i dont understand the implications of the govt
                holding voting/non-voting equity. i would probably be ok
                giving WBUFFETT $700bn and tell him to do what he can ...
                sort of a Modern Financial Cincinatus :-)