Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 51317
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2008/9/26-10/1 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:51317 Activity:low
9/26    Russia's a democracy. Iran's a democracy. Wouldn't they be
        members of McCain's League of Democracies?
        \_ Russia is definitely not a democracy.  Any decision may be
           arbitrarily changed by Putin.  Iran is not a democracy, at least
           no the US version.  any decision by the democratically elected
           not the US version.  any decision by the democratically elected
           leadership can be overruled by the chief cleric.
           \_ And yet they both hold reasonably free and fair elections, which
              makes them democracies, at least by definition. What McCain is
              proposing (and you are agreeing with) is an arbitrary club of
              countries we like. We currently call this NATO.
        \_ I still don't think you can really say Iran and Russia are
           democracies.  It stretches the bounds of credibility to say that
           Russia has free and fair elections.  The country is controlled
           by Putin.  Few would disagree with this.  Absolutely any decision
           in Iran can be modified by the Supreme Ruler I mean head cleric.
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