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2008/9/23-29 [Recreation/Media] UID:51272 Activity:nil
9/22    that angry sysadmin Karl Denninger got on NBC Nightly News's airing
        today at 5:30pm.  i feel pleased because i have been pointing my
        senators and congressman to the http://fedupusa.org site for the last week.
        \_ Please record it and put it on youtube for me. I want to see
           this guy rant.
           \_ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26841602 (vid at bottom)
              just 25 seconds
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www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26841602
The group was protesting the "failure of the Bush administration and Chairman Ben Bernanke to include lifelines for homeowners facing foreclosure in its big bank bailout." By Allison Linn Senior writer Steve Ebels hasn't been that hurt by the recent stock market roller-coaster ride because he no longer has much to lose. Ebels, who owns a heating business, said he already lost much of his life savings when a general contractor he was doing work for went belly up, leaving Ebels with a pile of bills for materials and labor he had already invested in the project. And that is perhaps the biggest reason why Ebels, 51, would like to see the failed Wall Street titans pay for the actions that have led to this crisis. If he has to start over because of a soured business deal, he figures, so should they. "I would just like to see some way that these people are held personally accountable," he said. "We've got to do more of that in this country: personal responsibility and accountability." "All (the bailout has) done is transfer all the indiscretions of all these people onto the shoulders of the taxpayers," he said. As Americans digest a dizzying series of events that has left Wall Street shaken to its core, the mood on Main Street is shifting from fear to loathing. They are angry that government regulators did not do enough to prevent this -- and protect them -- in the first place. They are upset the government is proposing billions of dollars in bailouts for Wall Street, even as many regular Americans are struggling to hang onto their homes and pay their bills. They also are livid that massive financial firms in which they trusted took wild risks and made incredibly bad decisions, in turn impacting their personal finances. Some wonder why, in the face of such a massive financial crisis, so few of these executives have stepped up to apologize for, or even try to explain, their actions. Mostly, they think it's despicable that many of these top executives could walk away with millions of dollars in their bank accounts, even as some average Americans see their retirement plans thrown into chaos. The Senate Tuesday opened a series of congressional hearings on the bailout plan that will address some of the issues, such as executive compensation and relief for regular homeowners, that have drawn some of the outrage. The one thing Susan Provencal, 63, knows is that her retirement will not go as planned. First, Provencal was laid off from one, then another, high-paying job training workers. Then, she had to abandon a plan to live in her getaway home in the mountains because she couldn't find enough work there, either. So, Provencal decided to sell that home and put all her equity into a condo in the northern California city of Fairfield, where she found clerical work. 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And if they couldn't foresee it, then she thinks safeguards are needed to prevent the same thing from happening again. "I hate to see too much regulation in place, but the bottom line is, these institutions have not been self-regulating," she said. At 59, Richard Martin also is dealing with a suddenly changed financial landscape. Martin had planned to stop working next year, using his 401 savings and two pensions he has earned to finance his retirement. But after watching his investment portfolio shrink for the past 12 months, he said that plan is looking iffy at best. Adding to his woes, Martin now isn't sure he'll have a job, even if he does decide to keep working. The Grand Prairie, Texas, resident works for Electronic Data Systems, which was recently bought by Hewlett-Packard. Last week, HP announced plans to cut 24,600 jobs over the next few years as it absorbs EDS. But even if he postpones retirement, Martin isn't going to hold out for a stock market rebound. 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fedupusa.org
UPDATED - 9/23/2008 We the American Taxpayer have been subjected to the biggest con job ever in this country. Here are a couple videos that will help you understand what's going on and how we can fix this and place the burden on the people that cause the problem, not the taxpayer... I am sure that this weekend Ben and Hank told Congress some horror story about how the whole world is going to come to an end and that there is no money left anywhere and they have the Only solutions. That is completely false and to prove it we are offering our solution. Do not believe the people that have been totally and completely wrong during this entire crisis. After you watch the video's you can learn more by visiting the links below...