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2008/9/13-19 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:51156 Activity:nil
9/13    Gibson got the Bush Doctrine wrong.  Krauthammer should know, since he
        coined the phrase.
        http://tinyurl.com/5yzcgd [wapo]
        \_ Bush Doctrine means what Gibson said it means, if you know anything
           about policy you'd know that.  But you know what, even if it was
           an ambigious term, after Gibson explained exactly what he meant by
           The Bush Docterine Palin obviously still had no idea what he was
           talking about and kept rambling along mouthing empty platitudes.
           Please try again.
     http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bush_Doctrine&oldid=228969706
           (Once you get past the 100's of edits of the past two days as
            people try to cover up Palin's confusion, it is pretty clear
            what the Bush Doctrine meant 2 months ago.  Once again McCain
            chooses truthiness over truth.)
            \_ Why do you choose that particular edit, when the only diff
               between that and the one later is that on 7.31 someone used
               'nukular'?  That edit also says "Al Qaeda was from its inception
               a CIA-funded terrorist group" which is patently false.
               \_ I chose it as one of the first before sept 12th.  Choose
                  another edit before then and you'll see the same thing.
                  What the Bush Doctrine meant was not under debate until
                  after Palin flubbed an interview question even after
                  Gibson (fairly) clarified his question after her obvious
                  confusion.
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REAL ESTATE Charlie Gibson's Gaffe By Charles Krauthammer Saturday, September 13, 2008; Ms Palin most visibly stumbled when she was asked by Mr Gibson if she agreed with the Bush doctrine. Ms Palin did not seem to know what he was talking about. In fact, there have been four distinct meanings, each one succeeding another over the eight years of this administration -- and the one Charlie Gibson cited is not the one in common usage today. She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, "In what respect, Charlie?" Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense." Weekly Standard entitled, "The Bush Doctrine: ABM, Kyoto, and the New American Unilateralism," I suggested that the Bush administration policies of unilaterally withdrawing from the ABM treaty and rejecting the Kyoto protocol, together with others, amounted to a radical change in foreign policy that should be called the Bush doctrine. Then came 9/11, and that notion was immediately superseded by the advent of the war on terror. President Bush declared: "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime." Taliban and support our attack on Afghanistan -- became the essence of the Bush doctrine. A year later, when the Iraq war was looming, Bush offered his major justification by enunciating a doctrine of preemptive war. This is the one Charlie Gibson thinks is the Bush doctrine. It's the third in a series and was superseded by the fourth and current definition of the Bush doctrine, the most sweeping formulation of the Bush approach to foreign policy and the one that most clearly and distinctively defines the Bush years: the idea that the fundamental mission of American foreign policy is to spread democracy throughout the world. It was most dramatically enunciated in Bush's second inaugural address: "The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world." John Kennedy's pledge in his inaugural address that the United States "shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty." It draws also from the Truman doctrine of March 1947 and from Wilson's 14 points. If I were in any public foreign policy debate today, and my adversary were to raise the Bush doctrine, both I and the audience would assume -- unless my interlocutor annotated the reference otherwise -- that he was speaking about the grandly proclaimed (and widely attacked) freedom agenda of the Bush administration. Not the "with us or against us" no-neutrality-is-permitted policy of the immediate post-9/11 days. Not the unilateralism that characterized the pre-9/11 first year of the Bush administration. Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents. And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and "sounding like an impatient teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes' reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play on their stage. com Post a Comment Comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site.
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President Bush decided soon after the 9/11 attacks that the proper response was not just military attacks against Al Qaeda bases, but deposing the Taliban altogether and installing in their place a US-friendly democratic government. This presented a foreign-policy challenge, since it was not the Taliban that had initiated the attacks, and there was no evidence that they had any foreknowledge of the attacks. Richard Perle, held that direct and unilateral action was both possible and justified and that America should embrace the opportunities for democracy and security offered by its position as sole remaining superpower. President Bush ultimately sided with the Department of Defense camp, and their recommendations form the basis for the Bush Doctrine. Project for the New American Century, which was founded in 1997. PNAC, in its founding "Statement of Principles", stated the "need to promote the cause of political and economic freedom abroad"; the following year, it called for deposing Saddam Hussein. The Bush Doctrine is summed up in the National Security Strategy released in 2002. In it, Bush lays out eight different points on how his administration would handle foreign policy. The book argues that replacing dictatorships with democratic governments is both morally justified, since it leads to greater freedom for the citizens of such countries, and strategically wise, since democratic countries are more peaceful, and breed less terrorism, than dictatorial ones. Criticisms of the Bush Doctrine Critics of the Bush Doctrine are suspicious of the increasing willingness of the US to use military force unilaterally.