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2008/9/10-17 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:51128 Activity:nil
9/10    I don't really care about what the rest of the world thinks when they
        don't even believe what happened on 9/11.
        http://www.newsmeat.com/news/meat.php?articleId=32140442&channelId=2951
        \_ Yeah! We all know it was Iraq!
           \_ I am pretty sure a majority of Republicans still believe that.
              \_ Yes but you're an idiot.
                 \_ http://preview.tinyurl.com/yp552s
                    "A Harris poll taken two weeks before the 2004
                     presidential election found that a majority of
                     Bush's supporters believed that Iraq was behind the
                     9/11 attacks"
                     Who are the idiots?
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The Boston Globe GOP rivals embrace unproven Iraq-9/11 tie By Peter S Canellos, Globe Staff | May 27, 2007 WASHINGTON -- In defending the Iraq war, leading Republican presidential contenders are increasingly echoing words and phrases used by President Bush in the run-up to the war that reinforce the misleading impression that Iraq was responsible for the Sept. In the May 15 Republican debate in South Carolina, Senator John McCain of Arizona suggested that Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden would "follow us home" from Iraq -- a comment some viewers may have taken to mean that bin Laden was in Iraq, which he is not. Former New York mayor Rudolph Guiliani asserted, in response to a question about Iraq, that "these people want to follow us here and they have followed us here. " However, none of the six people arrested for allegedly plotting to attack soldiers at Fort Dix in New Jersey were from Iraq. 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