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9/3     I changed my mind, Palin is totally awesome.  Please be a part
        of the ticket until the election, PLEASE.  thanks!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv=CrG8w4bb3kg
        transcript of words from Peggy Noonan:
        "it's over..."
        "palin thing is insulting."
        "they're all bummed out."
        "they went for this political bullshit about narratives. It's not
         what [the Republicans] are good at."
        "it's cynical. it's gimmicky."
        \_ better transcript
           http://pastie.org/265602
        \_ I would have voted for Peggy Noonan
        \_ Are you sure it means what you think it means?
           http://online.wsj.com/public/article/declarations.html
           \_ I just LOVE the backpedalling!  Oh boo who she said an
              obscenity on air and apologizes.  Well good thing that's
              over.  Actually I didn't clue in on the fact she said
              "it's over".  And I don't believe her, not one little bit.
              When she said "it's over", she meant it.  She also refrains
              in her column discussing what she said her about
              the Palin pick:
              Todd: Is she really the most qualified woman?
              Noonan: The most qualified no. I think they went for this excuse
                      me political bullshit about narratives..
              So like I said earlier, please keep Palin!
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Noonan and Murphy on Palin Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Good comment Marked as spam Reply This is the kind of commentary that they ought to be giving us on purpose. That they don't is why people are turning to non-professionals (eg bloggers) for their news and analysis. Good comment Marked as spam Reply McCain and Palin win the election. President Palin has a bad menstrual cycle and goes nuts. China, Russia, Sudan and a tiny atoll are wiped off the map. The next day, president Palin signs Executive Order 100-GF prohibiting gas to never exceed twenty five cents a gallon. Less info) Two conservative commentators on MSNBC, after they're off the air, say what they really think about the veep choice.
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Murphy: Um, you know, because, I come out of the blue swing state governor world. Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, I mean, and these guys, this is all how you win a Texas race, just run it up, and it's not gonnawork. aroundthewayboy (1 hour ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply | Spam Murphy: Still, McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech and do himself some good. Todd: That's the thing, the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Baily Hutchinson Noonan: I saw Kay this morning... Todd: She's never looked comfortable about this Murphy: They're all bummed out. Todd: I mean, is she really the most qualified woman they can have turned to? Noonan: Every time Republicans do that, because that's not where they live andit's not what they're good at, they blow it. Murphy: You know what's the worst thing about it, the greatest of McCain is nocynicism, and..
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MORE DECLARATIONS By PEGGY NOONAN Open Mic Night at MSNBC September 3, 2008 St. Paul Well, I just got mugged by the nature of modern media, and I wish it weren't my fault, but it is. Readers deserve an explanation, so I'm putting a new top on today's column and, with the forbearance of the Journal, here it is. Wednesday afternoon, in a live MSNBC television panel hosted by NBC's political analyst Chuck Todd, and along with Republican strategist Mike Murphy, we discussed Sarah Palin's speech this evening to the Republican National Convention. I said she has to tell us in her speech who she is, what she believes, and why she's here. We spoke of Republican charges that the media has been unfair to Mrs Palin, and I defended the view that while the media should investigate every quote and vote she's made, and look deeply into her career, it has been unjust in its treatment of her family circumstances, and deserved criticism for this. When the segment was over and MSNBC was in commercial, Todd, Murphy and I continued our conversation, talking about the Palin choice overall. We were speaking informally, with some passion -- and into live mics. An audio tape of that conversation was sent, how or by whom I don't know, onto the internet. And within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is "over", as it says in the transcript of the conversation. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. "The first lesson they learned is the one they remember," I said to Todd -- and I'm pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that's over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn't know, but that we just might find "This IS a country for old men." I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that "It's over." However, I did say two things that I haven't said in public, either in speaking or in my writing. One is a vulgar epithet that I wish I could blame on the mood of the moment but cannot. The other, more seriously, is a real criticism that I had not previously made, but only because I hadn't thought of it. And it is connected to a thought I had this morning, Wednesday morning, and wrote to a friend. Early this morning I saw Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, and as we chatted about the McCain campaign (she thoughtfully and supportively) I looked into her eyes and thought, Why not her? Had she been vetted for the vice presidency, and how did it come about that it was the less experienced Mrs Palin who was chosen? I didn't ask these questions or mention them, I just thought them. Later in the morning, still pondering this, I thought of something that had happened exactly 20 years before. I was on the plane, as a speechwriter, that took Republican presidential nominee George HW Bush, and the new vice presidential nominee, Dan Quayle, from New Orleans, the site of the convention, to Indiana. Sitting next to Mr Quayle was the other senator from that state, Richard Lugar. 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An early draft is said to have been direct to the point of rambunctious in drawing contrasts between the policies of Obama and McCain. "Lotta biography, lotta foreign policy, taking Obama straight on," said a GOP strategist Tuesday afternoon. By Thursday night rambunctious will be fine, and a relief. Great political parties must show compassion, but they don't want to wilt with the weight of it. "A maid laughing is half taken," said a randy old Elizabethan poet. A voter laughing is half yours, and just received a line he can repeat next weekend over a beer at the barbecue or online at Starbucks. Here is a fact of American politics: If you make us laugh we spread your line for free. I do not understand the absence of humor, that powerful weapon, that rhetorical cannon, in this year's campaign. There are a lot of things to say here but let me tell you the first I think of. We are vast, stretch coast to coast, live in self-sufficient pods; modern culture tends us toward the atomic, the fractured and broken up. When two people meet, as they come to know each other as neighbors or colleagues, one of the great easers, one of the great ways of making a simple small human connection is: shared laughter. So fill that area with humor: sly humor, teasing humor, humor that speaks a great truth or makes a sharp point. He should keep in mind that if his audience is laughing and chanting, it will help him with his delivery. As they cheer he can smile, while checking his next line. I am told alternately that he has given up on the teleprompter and will go straight from text, and that he will use a teleprompter. If it is it will be interesting to see if he has mastered it. That will tell us if he knows what this speech IS, which is one big fat brilliant opportunity. If he's reading from text, well, it is not true that this is impossible in the media age. 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