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8/26    Hey, motd boob guy, I have got a story for you:
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/6gkcae
        \_ No pics, damn.
        \_ I don't understand her outrage. She's got metal on her body. How
           does the TSA know it's a bra and not a box cutter or whatever?
           They have to err on the side of caution, because otherwise
           someone will smuggle something in their bra and they will be
           taken to task for not being diligent.
           \_ a 9/11-style takeover with box cutters would not be possible
              anymore; keeping people from bringing nail clippers or swiss
              army knives on planes does nothing meaningful for security.
              \_ Thank you Security Guru. Don't quit your day job.
                 \_ There is no way that confiscating nail clippers makes
                    anyone more safe. It is a "feel good measure" and nothing
                    more, just like most of what the TSA does.
           \_ The amount of metal in an underwire bra is very small, and
              overwhelmingly the choice for large-breasted women because of the
              support.  So why are the sensors tuned up so high as to detect
              that tiny amount of metal?
              \_ How else would they have an excuse to strip "A big-busted
                 woman wearing a large underwire bra"?
              \_ Do you want them to detect metal or not? The amount is not
                 very small if you've ever taken apart a bra, by the way,
                 and they have no idea of knowing it's even the bra that's
                 setting the sensor off until they check. She can say it's
                 her bra, but who is to know?
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Comments Georgia (default) Verdana Times New Roman Arial Font | Size: (08-25) 16:51 PDT OAKLAND -- When Berkeley resident Nancy Kates arrived at Oakland International Airport to board JetBlue flight 472, she thought she was heading off on a routine journey to visit her mother in Boston. Instead she ended up in a standoff with Transportation Safety Administration officials over her bra. For Kates, on Sunday, though, the security check got too invasive. A big-busted woman wearing a large underwire bra, she set off the metal detector. She was pulled aside and checked by a female TSA agent with a metal-sensitive wand. He told her that underwire bras were the leading item that set off the metal detectors, Kates said. If that's the case, Kates said, the equipment must be overly sensitive. And if the TSA is engaging in extra brassiere scrutiny, then other women are suffering similar humiliation, Kates thought. The Constitution bars unreasonable searches and seizures, Kates reminded the TSA supervisor, and scrutinizing a woman's brassiere is surely unreasonable, she said. The supervisor told her she had the choice of submitting to a pat-down in a private room or not flying. Kates offered a third alternative, to take off her bra and try again, which the TSA accepted. "They tried to humiliate me and I was not going to be humiliated over this," Kates said. "If I was carrying nail clippers and forgot about them, I wouldn't have gotten so upset. So she went to the rest room, then through the security line a second time. Walking through the airport braless can be embarrassing for a large-chested woman, not to mention uncomfortable. The metal detector didn't beep on the second time through, but then officials decided to go through Kates' carry-on luggage, she said. The whole undertaking took 40 minutes, Kates said, and caused her to miss her flight. JetBlue put her on another one, but she was four hours late getting to Boston. "It's actually a little funny in a way, but a sad, sad commentary on the state of our country," Kates said. There are 150 million women in America, and this could happen to any of them." TSA spokesman Nico Melendez said Monday that he wasn't familiar with the incident. But he said in all circumstances, "we have to resolve an alarm." That's the case for bras, artificial hips or anything with metal that sets off an alarm, he said. "Unfortunately, we can't take a passenger's word for it." Melendez said he didn't have any statistics on how many times passengers are screened because of bras. But he said, "we do everything we can to ensure that a passenger doesn't feel humiliated." Kates said she plans to talk to her family lawyer as well as the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Organization for Women and decide how to pursue the incident. Barry Steinhardt, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union's technology and liberty program, said Monday of federal security officials: "They can't find bombs in checked luggage, and they're essentially doing a pat-down of private parts. Kates said that although she flies about once a month, the only other time her bra has set off alarms in an airport was while she was being "wanded" in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. When she explained to the security agent that the wand was picking up the metal in her bra, she said, that was the end of the matter and she was allowed to go on her way. Chronicle staff writer Henry K Lee contributed to this report. New life for SF house Julia Morgan designed A San Francisco couple has spent nearly six years tediously renovating an early work of famed Bay Area architect Julia Morgan... Running in the Family - A 1966 Mustang cruises into its third generation Mike Caruso, 47, is the owner of San Francisco's Caruso Construction Company and has been doing... Unions working to get everyone on board for Obama As Barack Obama tries to convince blue-collar voters that he's one of them, union leaders acknowledge that some of their white constituents are still reluctant to support an African...