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2008/8/6-10 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:50800 Activity:nil
8/6     Pro-US rallies greet Bush in Seoul.
        http://csua.org/u/m12  (Blog w/ pics & vid and link to Rueters)
        Actually, when I was a missionary in SK, Bush made a visit
        (Feb 2002).  An odd fellow in the neighborhood brought us a cake
        to give to Bush.  I guess because we were the closest Americans he
        knew.  It said (in Korean) "Welcome Bush".  Anyway, we told him we
        couldn't give it to Bush, so he told us to eat it.  We did. -jrleek
        \_ Good to hear that Bush has done a good job of improving our
           image overseas.
        \_ You ate it?  Wow, you are VERY brave.  I would have assumed
           it was poisoned.
           \_ A) This was 2002. B) We knew the guy, he was harmless, just a bit
                 kooky. -jrleek
        \_ We forced them to import our beef again, and they still like us?
           It's not clear from the article what Bush did recently that more
           than offset the negative feeling from the beef issue.
           \_ My understanding is that the protests were less about beef,
              and more about the current SK prez, Lee Myung Bak.  The beef was
              just sort of a handy flashpoint. -jrleek
              Addendum: It was good flashpoint largely because Lee Myung Bak
              was being so high-handed about it and had terrible PR.
        \_ Can someone explain why beef import is such a touchy issue in Korea?
                -clueless
           \_ Again, my impression is that it wasn't that the beef was such a
              huge deal, it's that Lee Myung Pak is pissing everyone off.  He
              seems to think he's Park Chung-hee (The 1st military dictator.)
              My understanding is that it went something like this:
              Lee: We're importing beef again.
              A few protestors: Hey!
              Lee: Stupid poor people, always protesting.
              Everyone else: WTF?  Rawr!
        \_ I talked to my wife about this after I got home.  I had forgotten
           but Lee Myung Bak is/was a member of a VERY large church in Seoul.
           My wife guessed that a large chunk of the pro-US group was from that
           church and 'allied' churches. -jrleek
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