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2008/7/31-8/5 [Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50746 Activity:nil
7/31    Obama, such a class act.  Accusing McCain of being racist
        (groundlessly) _again_.
        http://csua.org/u/lzl
        \_ do you get everything from michelle malkin dot com?  your language
           is the same.
        \_ Wow.  McCain is indulging in the most disgusting of campaign
           tactics which even people like Ranesh Ponnuru are decrying,
           but it's Obama whose accusations are groundless.  If you
           don't get the obvious message sent by putting Obama in an
           ad with two sexually available white women, then you are
           extremely naive.
           \_ Right, anyone who doesn't see racist undertones in everything
              is naive. Two sexual availible white women, sheesh.  If that's
              the first thing you think of, your either trying too hard or
              a perv.
              \_ You don't have to see racist undertones in everything to
                 see it when it's obvious. -!pp
                 \_ FIND ME A LINK.  THANKS.
        \_ ugh, article is boring and uninteresting.  can either you post
           a link to video of the ad?  ok thx.
        \_ No where in this article does Obama accuse anyone of being racist.
           In fact, the Obama camp specifically denies that claim:
           http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/obama-camp-obam.html
           Try again.
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Jake Tapper is ABC News' Senior National Correspondent based in the network's Washington bureau. He writes about politics and popular culture and covers a range of national stories. Prominent Liberal Blogger Says Britney Ad Implies Obama Has a "Taste for Young White Women" Did Obama Accuse McCain of Running a Racist, Xenophobic Campaign? July 30, 2008 10:45 PM "John McCain right now, he's spending an awful lot of time talking about me," Sen. I haven't seen an ad yet where he talks about what he's gonna do. And the reason is because those folks know they don't have any good answers, they know they've had their turn over the last eight years and made a mess of things. Obama continued: "And so the only way they figure they're going to win this election is if they make you scared of me. So what they're saying is, Well, we know we're not very good but you can't risk electing Obama. Us deciding that we're going to come together to bring about real change in America or continuing to do same things with the same folks in the same ways that we know have not worked? I mean, are we really going to do the same stuff that we've been doing over the last eight years? Obama made similar comments earlier in the day in Springfield, Mo Correct me if I'm wrong, but does it not seem as if Obama just said McCain and his campaign -- presumably the "they" in this construct -- are saying that Obama shouldn't be elected because he's a risk because he's black and has a foreign-sounding name? The Obama campaign says no, no, no, certainly not, he was talking about his "opponents" in general, writ large, the talk radio hosts and smear artists and such. Then in Union, Mo, this evening, Obama seemed to specifically accuse McCain and the GOP of peddling racism and xenophobia. Obama said that "John McCain and the Republicans, they don't have any new ideas, that's why they're spending all their time talking about me. I mean, you haven't heard a positive thing out of that campaign in ... All they do is try to run me down and you know, you know this in your own life. If somebody doesn't have anything nice to say about anybody, that means they've got some problems of their own. So they know they've got no new ideas, they know they're dredging up all the stale old stuff they've been peddling for the last eight, 10 years. "But, since they don't have any new ideas the only strategy they've got in this election is to try to scare you about me. They're going to try to say that I'm a risky guy, they're going to try to say, 'Well, you know, he's got a funny name and he doesn't look like all the presidents on the dollar bills and the five dollar bills and, and they're going to send out nasty emails. "And, you know, the latest one they've got me in an ad with Paris Hilton," Obama said, referring to a McCain campaign ad launched today. But, but, you know, what they're gonna try to argue is that somehow I'm too risky." But not only has McCain not peddled any of it, he's condemned it. he condemned the North Carolina Republican Party's ad featuring images of the Rev. With one possible exception, I've never seen McCain or those under his control playing the race card or making fun of Obama's name -- or even mentioning Obama's full name, for that matter! one exception was in March when McCain suspended a low-level campaign staffer for sending out to a small group of friends a link to a video that attempts to tie Obama not only to Wright but to the black power movement, rappers Public Enemy and Malcolm X) While I have no doubt there will be a bunch more racist, xenophobic, and other ignorant drek coming our way courtesy of the Internet and perhaps the occasional cable news network, it's important to determine where it's coming from. A third-party group with direct ties to establishment figures? I've seen racism in campaigns before -- I've seen it against Obama in this campaign (more from Democrats than Republicans, at this point, I might add) and I've seen it against McCain in South Carolina in 2000, when his adopted Bangladeshi daughter Bridget was alleged, by the charming friends and allies of then-Gov. George W Bush, to have been a McCain love-child with an African-American woman. What I have not seen is it come from McCain or his campaign in such a way to merit the language Obama used today. Whenever a Democrat oppose or criticize President Obama, they are automatically labeled by the Obama camp and the MSM as RACIST? Race baiting part II Posted by: politicsIsdirty | Jul 31, 2008 3:15:17 PM The racist component here is that the black guy is the only one who is being called elitist and arrogant. The right wing is using the only tricks it knows and is simply hamstrung because it can't use the word uppity. If the McCain campaign could get away with it they would. The fact is Obama is smarter than the right and is driving the right crazy because they can't get him to fly off the handle. They need him to turn into the angry black man and so far it looks like he just feels sorry for them. Posted by: mordoormat | Jul 31, 2008 3:14:19 PM Jake and readers: Obama has used the lines cited here or ones like them many times in the course of his campaign, including during the primary season. It's nothing new, and he says what he says because his opponents are trying to paint him as scary, radical, and not-really-American. People speaking on McCain's behalf and in messages he approves are doing it as well. How else can you explain the grossly distorted characterizations of Obama's motives in not visiting a military hospital? Only a monster who's not a patriotic, real American would have behaved the way McCain falsely claims Obama did. 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Posted by: Jack | Jul 31, 2008 3:09:33 PM Post from Ron:"I hated the gooks. If you read McCain's remarks he clearly said he was referring to his captors. And, it was in 2000 and it has nothing to do with Obama. Posted by: treyb | Jul 31, 2008 3:08:03 PM What's so inflammatory about Obama's statements? He's being truthful - detailing exactly what the gop/mcccain camp is trying to do. He's exposing the republican tricks - if people are inflamed over it, blame mccain. Yep, looks like a whole lotta folks are upset because they're tactics are being exposed. Posted by: Julie | Jul 31, 2008 3:03:48 PM Post ...
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Jake Tapper is ABC News' Senior National Correspondent based in the network's Washington bureau. He writes about politics and popular culture and covers a range of national stories. Obama Camp: Obama Doesn't Think McCain Is Using Race, But Does Think He's Taking Low Road July 31, 2008 1:22 PM Statement from Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton: "This is a race about big challenges--a slumping economy, a broken foreign policy, and an energy crisis for everyone but the oil companies. Barack Obama in no way believes that the McCain campaign is using race as an issue, but he does believe they're using the same old low-road politics to distract voters from the real issues in this campaign, and those are the issues he'll continue to talk about." Obama Camp: Obama Doesn't Think McCain Is Using Race, But Does Think He's Taking Low Road: User Comments I listened, read and watched Obama in each retort. He deried "Bush and McCain" but offered nothing of his own. Posted by: drjohn | Aug 1, 2008 7:32:45 AM So the race-card did not go over well with fair-minded Americans - ooops, so go to Plan B - say it is the same old low-road politics! Beckie | Aug 1, 2008 12:01:56 AM The fact of the matter is that there is an overwhelming amount of Americans who cannot swallow having a black president even amongst people who feel that they are not racist. Mcain has already been discrimenatory towards Obama regarding his age using "inexperience" as his reasons for this; This issue has been sultering within and around the Republican party and my personal feeling is that "it is what it is" why not be proactive and bring these issues to the forefront; this is what any good business person would do, wouldn't they? Obama made a wise business decision by being just saying it! Posted by: Elizabeth | Jul 31, 2008 8:13:38 PM Once again, Obama has to return to clarify what he said earlier. 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Posted by: marylou | Jul 31, 2008 5:34:56 PM jhw539, I'm sorry, are you saying Obama was willing to have 8 debates, 5 + 3 traditional or 5 altogether? Posted by: Sue | Jul 31, 2008 4:53:40 PM >>>>Barack Obama in no way believes that the McCain campaign is using race as an issue ROFL - more hoodwinking from Obama! Yesterday, Obama claimed McCain WAS using the Race Card. This is a typical CYA back tracking Obama remark - commonly known as WORM = what Obama really meant. Posted by: JoseyJ | Jul 31, 2008 4:51:24 PM Sue: "I just heard Obama say McCain doesn't want to debate the serious issues, instead he wanted to discuss Brittney & Paris. As I posted earlier, Obama offered five debates with McCain (more than any modern presidental race has had). And there are the traditional three debates scheduled already, not that I think you care about reality. expect this campaign to be as nasty or even nastier than it was in the past as McCain and other Republicans get more and more desperate... Posted by: indy_voter | Jul 31, 2008 4:36:35 PM Magoo: "Cite some examples other tahn the given one of a strong military and what do you have left? " Extension of the Bush economic "plan" (extending the tax cuts). Giving away the final areas that oil companies aren't already allowed to drill. The immigration amnesty / cheap labor for industry policy. That's three - basically go to McCain's website and tell me where, other than climate change, McCain does NOT match President Bush. Posted by: jhw539 | Jul 31, 2008 4:34:41 PM Poor me, I don't look like all the other candidates. Posted by: riley | Jul 31, 2008 4:33:07 PM Team Mccain should call him out. Say ok Senator Obama, let's go - right now - TownHall meeting next week! Posted by: Magoo | Jul 31, 2008 4:13:19 PM "Just another attempt to feign outrage to deflect from the fact that John McCain's policies make no sense and are no different from George Bush's." Yea, you'd love to paint them both with the same brush but it just ain't so. Cite some examples other tahn the given one of a strong military and what do you have left? Posted by: Magoo | Jul 31, 2008 4:09:23 PM I just heard Obama say McCain doesn't want to debate the serious issues, instead he wanted to discuss Brittney & Paris. Posted by: Sue | Jul 31, 2008 4:07:06 PM "Obama's team response" It's called spinning, backtracking, blah, blah, blah... If a candidate's remarks are so ambiguous they have to be explained, maybe the remarks shouldn't have been made in the first place. Posted by: Magoo | Jul 31, 2008 4:06:32 PM If he doesn't think McCain is using race, why all that malarky about Presidents on dollars? Posted by: Buford Gooch | Jul 31, 2008 3:57:54 PM I watch McCain on the news when he said "Obama would not fit the image of a dollar bill" . I must say, I thought because he was black at the time McCain said it. So whether McCain meant for it to be taken that way or not, he said it and that was my first thought. Which I must also say, I was upset McCain had said it, and thought how low can the man go. Posted by: becky | Jul 31, 2008 3:51:42 PM Obama was like John F Kennedy, Martin Luther King and Lincoln before we really knew him. Now that we know Obama he is now like Paris Hilton and Brittney Spears Posted by: Eric Sells Kool Aide | Jul 31, 2008 3:48:34 PM The 'low road' for Obama is a one way street, he used it with Hillary, his supporters are always calling McCain names and demeaning old people, but you can not critizice him, no sir, tht's 'old politics'. Posted by: lamecandidate | Jul 31, 2008 3:46:17 PM Note that Obama has said nothing lately. Posted by: dgh629 | Jul 31, 2008 3:41:23 PM Let the bet ride: exactly what is the high road and what makes you think we believe you after what you did to Hillary Clinton and continue to do by pulling out the race card every time your numbers drop? Get real, Senator and right soon, Ok Senator Obama, let's talk issues. You don't want to drill and you don't have any other suggestions except that you want to give Silicon Valley (a major source of your campaign funds) big tax dollars to develop alternatives. I agree technology should be developed but how about the oil companies spending more than 1% of their profits on research and development? It would indeed be nice to move past the slingshot gotcha politics but as long as you insist on a Really Big Show, you will have all the credibility of Ed Sullivan as an act except you won't book The Beatles as long they can outshine you. and blatantly accused McCain in his speeches over the last few days of doing it even though McCain has not mentioned his race or even used Obama's full name" I would love to see some cites for the Obama campaign "using the race card over and over." And, to be fair, since you don't believe McCain can use the race if he doesn't say "race," why do you claim Obama's comments, which don't mention race, are playing the race card? 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