7/30    SF is about to build a 2 mile subway from Chinatown to
        the ballpark, going UNDER Powell BART.  Powell BART leaks
        like a sieve and BART needs to pump thousands of gallons of water
        out of the station daily.  They actually have trash cans out
        in key parts of the station to collect water.  Somehow I don't think
        the might SF corp of civil engineers have taken into consideration
        all of this crap they are going to have to build their gajillion
        dollar tunnel of shit under.
        \_ I hadn't heard about this.  I assume there will be some easy
           transfer from BART to the new line?  By gondola perhaps?
           \_ Ever use muni?
           \_ they will use HOMOSEXUAL FAIRY MAGIC
           \_ There will be an underground walkway from Union Square Station to
              Montgomery BART.
        \_ All subways leak water.  The NYC subway system would flood within
           hours if electricity went out and the generators failed.  It's
           part of that whole "being 100 feet underground" thing.  But you
           should stay convinced that only you understand that water exists
           and that civil engineers don't know anything about their jobs.
           \_ you know I wouldn't put it past the city of sf to plan
              this 1.7 subway going under some of the densest most expensive
              real estate in the United States Of America, and totally
              fucking it all up and it ends up costing something stupid
              like 11 billion dollars.  also the subway is part of a
              gentrify the toxic waste dump that is Hunters Point and fill
              it with pleasant white relaxed Google engineers who haven't
              done their own laundry in years + gain political points with
              the 40 percent population of sf Chinese people you never hear
              about.
              \_ *cough* Big Dig *cough*
              \_ You know I wouldn't put it past you being an idiot.
                 \_ The gajillion dollar subway is part of a plan to gentrify
                    Hunters Point, it is hard to dispute that.  The gajillion
                    dollar subway was planned to butter up the chinese sf
                    people.
                    \_ If you think civil engineers who work on subway
                       systems don't know tunnels leak water you are dumb.
                       \_ Apparently BATMAN is running SF's computer systems
                          these days.  THE MOLE MAN might run city public works
                    \_ What is wrong with gentrifying Hunter's Point? You would
                       rather see a Superfund site there? And I can't see
                       what is wrong with actually serving your constituency.
                       The Chinatown buses are the most crowded in The City.
                       \_ Don't you know that the chinese aren't real people?
        \_ I wouldn't trust the City of SF to plan the drainage in a desert.
           \- maybe you can align the incentives by having Bechtel design a
              tunnel which goes under the Bechtel Building. BTW, isn't the
              rationale for this to connect 3rd street rail/caltrain to
              downtown without going through surface traffic rather than
              bringing chinese people to the ball park?
              \_ No, when this is all done, there will actually be two
                 tunnels, two blocks apart: one for Muni and one for CalTrain.
                 This seems kind of stupid to me, but I see why they are
                 doing it.