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2008/7/20-23 [Reference/History/WW2/Germany, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:50641 Activity:high
7/20    Oh, that crazy Obama, he couldn't get the Brandenberg gate, so he
        switched to Hitler's favorite monument of militaristic dominance.
        http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,566920,00.html
        Not that he could have asked any German reporters about this.
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/5tqtgy  (Washington Post)
        \_ Yes, because Obama LOVES HITLER!  He's a crazy secret muslim
           HITLER LOVER!  HITLER HILTER HILTER!
        \_ Perhaps it is part of Obama's effort to reach out to White
           \_ Don't forget he's a commie who wants to raise all our taxes
              to 100% and outlaw all guns except if the state needs to use
              them in an "on-demand" abortion.
              \_ HITLER!
                 \_ Um, deal with it. When Obama wins, you'll have to learn
                    to live with this crap for the next 4 years just like
                    everybody had to deal with BUSH=HITLER nonsense for the
                    past 8 years. It's a small price to pay for having your
                    team finally win one.
                    \_ You are missing what is important here.  Obama is
                       HITLER!
                    \_ Wait, you mean you stopped calling Dems HITLER, LIAR,
                       and FLIPFLOPPER when Bush became Pres.? Your weak sauce
                       is old news.
                    \_ Not sure Obama is going to survive 4 years with all
                       the gun-toting whackos in this country.
                       \_ The gun-toting whackos in the Secret Service will
                          protect him just fine.
                          \_ Just like they did JFK and Raygun.
                             \_ Yeah, too bad JHJr assassinated Reagan. Oh,
                                wait, he _didn't_. Secret Service hasn't
                                lost anyone since JFK. Get over it.
                                \_ Oh yes, because Reagan and Brady managed to
                                   survive I guess that means the SS did its
                                   job. Maybe Obama will just be a vegetable
                                   so you can still stand by your stupid point.
                                   \_ Right, it's easier for you to imagine
                                      that the Secret Service is incompetent
                                      than to simply accept that the fact that
                                      no one's been assassinated since JFK is
                                      a result of professionalism.
                                      \_ Only in your world is the POTS being
                                      \_ Only in your world is the POTUS being
                                         shot and nearly dying considered a
                                         success.
        \_ Perhaps it is part of Obama's effort to reach out to the White
           Supremicist vote.
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