7/15    help, if i see anyone driving a Land Rover or Humvee in a non
        combat situation I automatically think they are an asshole.
        \_ what's wrong with that?
        \_ Look at the way those cars were advertised a few years ago.
           They are marketed as "fuck you" cars.  No duh people who own
           They are marketed as "f*** you" cars.  No duh people who own
           them are assholes.
        \_ Feel the same way about Jeeps?
           \_ My 1996 Jeep Cherokee (169.2in) is shorter than a Honda Civic.
              \_ So what?  When people complain about SUVs and the people who
                 buy them, the car's length is generally not what they're
                 objecting to.  What on earth are you trying to say?
                 \_ I'm just trying to say not all SUVs are equally bad-ass,
                    in terms of the space that it takes up and gas mileage.
                    Mine has better gas mileage than some full-size sedans.
                    Mine has better gas mileage than some luxury sedans.
                    Mine has better gas mileage than some luxury sedans. -- PP
                    \_ Doesn't change that Jeep was designed for combat.
                       \_ Also designed without shock-absorbers or comfortable
                          seating. Hardcore means no more kidney stones.
        \_ I wished that Cal Tech student burned down more Hummers.
           I totally support his cause.
           \- ARCHIMEDES DEATH RAY vs HUMMER!
        \_ if you really want to punish those assholes, lobby congress don't
           do anything about the high gas prices.  Let these road bullies
           PAY for their choices.   Right now, we would rather invade another
           country than willing to let gas price rise.