Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 50514
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
2018/02/19 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

2008/7/9-13 [Science/Space, Finance/Investment] UID:50514 Activity:nil
        Economy today is very very healthy compared to say, the 70s
        and 80s. However the problem today is very different. Over-leveraging.
        Thanks to deregulation, commercial and investment banks used
        ridiculous degrees of leverage on investments that turned out to have
        much less value than they thought. Yay to deregulation!!! Let's
        deregulate EVERYTHING in the name of PROFIT! Deregulate electricity,
        healthcare, education, transportation, water, air, etc etc
        \_ Please list all of the successful planned economies of the
           last 100 years.
           \_ Straw man.  Regulation != "planned economy".
              For that matter, list all of the successful free markets
              of the last 100 years.  (I know, all market failures are
              due to government regulation).
           \_ Sweden, Norway, Luxemborg... need I go on?
              \_ Norway is a mixed economy. So probably is Sweden, although I'm
                 not sure. You're already down to Luxembourg? What's next
                 Monaco? Please do go on.
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