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2008/7/9-11 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:50507 Activity:low
7/9     Turns out, Fox News is the favorite channel for Dems
        FNC (31% Democratic): 491,350 Dem viewers
        CNN (45% Democratic): 432,450 Dem viewers
        MSNBC (48% Democratic): 328,800 Dem viewers
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/5rg7hq
        \_ Uh, that just says Fox News is the most popular channel overall.
           lrn2statistics please.
        \- maybe it's the "you spurned hillary and now i am going to vote
           for mccain but you already knew i was a moron for supporting
           a pandering liar" crowd tuning in to watch Howard Wolfson, Fox's
           latest hack.
        \_ I'm a moderate, but my liberal friends accuse me of being a
           Republican. They always say that I parrot Fox News and Rush
           Limbaugh, but I don't pay attention to either. They do. They
           claim they want to see what the other side is doing. These
           numbers don't surprise me at all. No wonder Dems have a messed
           up idea about Republicans - they get all their info from Faux News.
           \_ Who should we be getting our ideas about Republicans from?
              Ann Coulter, the best selling conservative author of all time?
              Rush Limbaugh, the most popular conservative radio host?
              \_ How about Barry Goldwater, Alan Greenspan, GWB (first),
                                                            \_ I think the
                                                               official
                                                               acronym is
                                                               GHWB
                 Arlen Specter, Colin Powell, AHNOLD, Rudy Giuliani, and
                 the Rockefeller Republicans? Coulter and Limbaugh are
                 trying to get ratings/sell books and the religious right
                 is it's own scary faction. I don't judge the Democratic
                 party by the actions of morons like Michael Moore.
                 \_ Other possibilities include George Will, Tom Campbell,
                    and Milton Friedman.
                    \_ All RINOs.
                       \_ Right. Any Republican that doesn't meet your
                          stereotype is a RINO.
                          \_ It was DeLay and Rove that purged all the
                             moderates from the Party, not me. Your own
                             Right Wing invented the term RINO.
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