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7/7 Reiser leads police to body of Nina
http://preview.tinyurl.com/6xwgsg [sfgate]
\_ i can't believe this is the same reiser of ReiserFS
\_ then you never met him.
\_ does he have Asperger's Syndrome and carry a gun like emarkp?
\_ At least he doesn't think God talks to him.
\_ emarkp is a nice enough guy in person, he just has a
ridiculous world view. Reiser is insane. -tom
\_ Almost all Aspies appear to be nice but have really
really warped perception of the world view. Also,
almost all Aspies deny that they are Aspies despite
rigorous clinical checks. Yeah, typical Aspies.
\_ carrying your gun into church isnt aspie, it's just stupid.
\_ Unless it saves your life and the lives of others.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=3980889&page=1
or, another
http://preview.tinyurl.com/5rwuem
-emarkp
\_ ok i'll give you that. if you live South Africa, you probably
need to carry a gun in some places. I live in AMERICA.
\_ carrying a gun makes the carrier feel safe and everyone
else unsafe. Arms race, anyone?
\_ Cool. I wonder if taser would help in this case. Also,
how carrying a handgun helps in cases like the
North Hollywood shootout?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuhP2Y18CkI
\_ emarkp's awesome CCW handgun sure would have helped
\_ typical religious nutcase takes 1-2 examples and say
"yes it works!" and also cry out "statistics lie!"
Typical Aspies also don't change their view point once
they've made up their mind. Hello Aspie emarkp!
\_ Hi anonymous troll! You said "it's just stupid". I post
counter-example. You go ad hominem. Thanks for making my
point. -emarkp
\_ http://www.wjactv.com/news/16728776/detail.html
Two dead after Clearfield church shooting
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/16639564/detail.html
Shooting outside Cobb church leaves 1 dead
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080625/NEWS03/80625083/1005
Pontiac teen sought for allegedly killing boy at church
\_ Oh, this is a good one. What is a 16-yr old doing with
a handgun?
<http://http://www.nbc5i.com/news/16659670/detail.html
One dead after police-involved shooting at Rockwell Church
And that's just a trivial Google News search from the
past month. I'll also point out that the Colorado Springs
incident was an *armed security guard*, which is a lot
different than some random dweeb with a gun. -tom
\_ Incorrectly reported. She's a *volunteer*.
\_ She's a volunteer security guard.
\_ These events are pretty random. The first one is about a
guy who went and killed the janitor at a church because the
guy was having an affair with his wife. The second is a
guy driving up to a church parking lot and shooting someone
there. The third was a guy who drove into a church parking
lot and pointed a gun at the officer, who shot the guy
dead. What do these have to do with anything?
\_ I thought the topic was gun deaths.
\_ The claim above was that "carrying your gun into
church" was stupid. |
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| preview.tinyurl.com/6xwgsg -> www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/07/07/BAN011LDR8.DTL&type=printable Reiser, who had proclaimed his innocence from the day his estranged wife, Nina, was last seen in September 2006, agreed to reveal the location of her body in exchange for a deal in which he would be sentenced for second-degree murder rather than the first-degree murder conviction a jury returned against him in April, according to officials with knowledge of the case. Reiser also acknowledged that he and his wife had fought and that he had strangled her, a source familiar with the investigation said. The maximum sentence Reiser could receive for second-degree murder is 15 years to life. Reiser had faced a term of 25 years to life under his first-degree murder conviction. The remains that Reiser revealed Monday were found about 4 pm buried on the side of a steep hill off a deer trail between Redwood Regional Park and the Huckleberry Botanic Regional Preserve, less than 200 yards behind a house on Skyline Boulevard, said Reiser's attorney, William Du Bois, who accompanied his client to the site. The body was less than half a mile from the home on Exeter Drive where Reiser lived with his mother, and where Nina Reiser, 31, was last seen alive Sept. "It's shocking, to say the least," said Michael Arboleda, a Skyline Boulevard resident who watched the police investigation. Reiser was handcuffed to Du Bois and they accompanied Oakland police, prosecutor Paul Hora and Alameda County district attorney's Inspector Bruce Brock as the body was exhumed, Du Bois said. Officer Roland Holmgren, Oakland police spokesman, said the body has not been positively identified. Police and prosecutors declined to further comment, saying a news conference is scheduled for today. Reiser, 44, was convicted by an Alameda County jury April 28 after a six-month trial in which the combative software programmer testified over 11 days that he was innocent of killing his wife, who had not been seen since dropping off the couple's young son and daughter at his home. On the day Reiser was convicted, Hora said, "We have a body. Reiser was scheduled to be sentenced Wednesday, but the discovery of the body is likely to delay the hearing. Du Bois declined to address the question of whether Reiser would receive a reduced sentence, saying, "We don't know. Talk to the DA" But the defense attorney added, "We're just trying to improve our position at this point." Prosecutors agreed to the deal in which Reiser would receive a lighter sentence for revealing the location of his wife's body, said officials with knowledge of the case, speaking on condition they not be identified. Du Bois confirmed that he and others had been urging Reiser to reveal the location of Nina Reiser's body. "We've talked a very long time about the subject - not only myself, but many other people," Du Bois said. The issue was "whether Hans would summon up the intestinal fortitude to do this - he did," Du Bois said. Reiser knew exactly where the body was, his lawyer said. "There was no difficulty once he got on the job," Du Bois said. It was highly unlikely anyone else would have found the body, Du Bois said. "It was so obscure, but I admit it was also clever because it was not that far off the road." Michael Cardoza, a defense attorney and former Alameda County prosecutor who has been following the case, said he would be shocked if prosecutors agreed to the deal. However, he added, they might "if the family leaned on them so hard that they wanted to know where the body was," Cardoza said. The Reisers were separated and going through an acrimonious divorce when Nina Reiser disappeared. During the trial, Du Bois hammered at the fact that Nina Reiser's body had never been found and suggested that she might be alive and hiding in her native Russia in an attempt to frame her estranged husband. Prosecutors, however, believed that Hans Reiser killed his wife after she dropped off their children and that he disposed of her body using his mother's Honda CRX. Police later found the car with its front passenger seat missing and the floorboard saturated with water, as if someone had tried to clean it. It takes about a minute to drive from Hans Reiser's home to where the body was found Monday. Prosecutors said Reiser had abandoned his wife's Honda Odyssey minivan on a street near Highway 13 and hid the CRX from police in a similar fashion on another street near the highway. An inmate at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin testified during the murder trial that Reiser raced to a television set when a news report came on in February 2007 about a body being found in the Oakland hills. Reiser was visibly relieved when the reporter said the body was that of a black man, the inmate testified. Albert Chiu, 61, a retired federal government worker whose home is close to where the body was found Monday, said a police helicopter began flying overhead about 3 pm Officers soon swarmed the area, joined by police technicians and forensic scientists. Chiu said he didn't recall seeing or hearing anything suspicious near his home around the time Nina Reiser disappeared. He said he believed private search parties had searched the trail shortly after she went missing. Vince Dunn, 61, a member of the jury that convicted Reiser, said he was elated that Nina Reiser's body apparently had been found. The discovery shows that "our decision was based on fact and circumstance," the retired schoolteacher said. Throughout the trial, the seven-man, five-woman jury - like everyone - wanted to know where Nina Reiser's body was, Dunn said. "It was the same question that the children had," he said. Dunn said it would be wrong for Reiser to get a lighter sentence for revealing where he had buried his wife's body. "It just doesn't seem right to me that that can happen in America," Dunn said. Ellen Doren, Nina Reiser's best friend, said she wanted to know how Reiser, his father and his attorneys would explain their long-standing theory that the mother of two had disappeared on her own. Doren decried what she called "the show they put on and the circus they put on over the past year. I think they put so much dirt on Nina, now they're going to have to get themselves out of the dirt." Doren said she was convinced that Reiser wouldn't have agreed to divulge the location of the body if there were not a deal. |
| abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=3980889&page=1 Church Guard Security guard Jeanne Assam, who gunned down a young man who had shot several people at her church, said she was "given the assignment to end this before it got too much worse." Weak from a three-day religious fast, Assam said Monday that she shut out the frightening gunshots outside and focused on Murray as he walked down a church hallway. When Murray came in with an assault rifle, she shot him several times with her gun. "It seemed like it was me, the gunman and God," said Assam, whose hands trembled a little as she recounted the shooting during a news conference Monday. Murray is believed to have killed two people after a midday ceremony at the megachurch and two other people 12 hours earlier at a missionary training school in the Denver suburb of Arvada. Police said a weapon found at the church was forensically linked to shell casings left behind at the missionary school. Even though Assam shot Murray, investigators said he may have died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Before the shooting at her church, Assam said, she felt chills when reading that the gunman from the missionary school shooting hadn't been captured. When the gunman entered New Life Church, she said, she took cover and drew spiritual and physical strength from her religious faith. As church members ran away, Assam said, she had no intention of fleeing. "I was given the assignment to end this before it got too much worse," she said. Assam, who now works for a ministry, declined to provide details of her prior work in law enforcement, saying only that she had pulled her gun several times in the course of her job but never had to fire at anyone. If you would like to tell us more facts about this story, please click here to send the editors of ABC News a separate email with the information you have. Please enable javascript to use the community features on this page. Privacy Policy/Your California Privacy Rights External links are provided for reference purposes. ABC News is not responsible for the content of external internet sites. |
| preview.tinyurl.com/5rwuem -> garybaumgarten.blogspot.com/2007/10/terroirst-shooter-charl-van-wyck-to.html The Gary Baumgarten Report As a journalist since 1969 (including a decade as CNN Radio's New York-based correspondent) I've reported, the good, the bad, the beautiful and the ugly. com I host a daily online show, News Talk Online, where I interview newsmakers and offer commentary. As with the show, this blog reflects my personal thoughts. Terrorist Shooter Charl Van Wyck To Appear On Paltalk Van Wyck Charl Van Wyck, who, on July 25th, 1993 opened fire on terrorists attacking the St. James Cathedral in Cape Town, South Africa, will be my guest on News Talk Online on Paltalk on Tuesday, Nov. In his new book, Shooting Back: The Right and Duty of Self-Defense, Van Wyck talks about the right of people to use guns to protect themselves against unwarranted and potentially deadly attacks. The terrorists attacking the church with AK-47s and hand grenades killed 11 and wounded 58. But Van Wyck shot one of the attackers, driving the others away. Van Wyck will talk about the right to bear arms on November 6 at 5 PM New York time. He asks critical questions, and invites people from all around the world to talk directly to his newsmaker guests using Paltalk's voice over IP technology. Gary came to Paltalk as director of news and programming from CNN where he was the radio bureau chief and correspondent in New York for a decade, where he covered, among other things, the 9/11 attacks in New York and Hurricane Katrina. He was previously reporter and assistant news director at CBS all news radio station WWJ in Detroit. Prior to that he was managing editor at Detroit Radio News Service and a reporter for the Jackson (MI) Citizen-Patriot, the Detroit News and a number of weekly newspapers. Paltalk is the largest multimedia interactive program on the Internet with more than 4 million unique users. News Talk Online is also syndicated by CRN Digital Talk Radio to cable systems serving an additional 12 million households. |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout Phillips and Matasareanu had robbed several banks prior to their attempt in North Hollywood and were notorious for their heavy armament, which included automatic rifles. North Hollywood around 9:17 am, and set their watch alarms for 8 minutes, which was the amount of time they estimated it would take for law enforcement officials to respond. Television news helicopters responding to the "Shots Fired" LAPD dispatch arrive minutes later and start broadcasting the shootout. SWAT supervisors watching the live television coverage, pass critical, time-sensitive information to the officers on the scene. Scale map of the area around Bank of America , final locations of Phillips and Matasareanu . Streets-A: Laurel Canyon Boulevard - B: Agnes Avenue - C: Ben Avenue - D: Gentry Avenue - E: Redford Avenue - F: Morella Avenue 1: Archwood Street - 2: Lemay Street - 3: Kittridge Street Scale map of the area around Bank of America , final locations of Phillips and Matasareanu . As KCBS and KCAL helicopters hover overhead, a patrol car driven by SWAT officers quickly arrived--Matasareanu left the truck, took cover behind the original getaway car, and engaged them immediately. The illegally-modified automatic AR-15 with a drum magazine used by Matasareanu, photographed at the location where he was shot down. The dark item in the background marked "25" is the mask that he wore. The robbers were protected by body armor, which could not be penetrated by the officers' handguns and shotguns. While Phillips was shot in the hand and shortly afterwards allegedly committed suicide, a SWAT officer reported during the final gunfire exchange that his M16 rounds could not penetrate Matasareanu's armor (due to the trauma plates), suggesting that the outcome could have been different had both robbers been wearing leg protection. The responding police officers directed their fire at the "center mass" or torsos of Matasereanu and Phillips. Each man was shot and penetrated by at least ten bullets, yet both continued to violently attack officers for the extended engagement. |
| www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuhP2Y18CkI Good comment Marked as spam Reply Those guys had already robbed over $2 million from other banks, so they had had previous success. But a Cop saw them walking into the bank on the day of this video so they were screwed from the get go. It was basically a sucicide mission once that cop saw them. Good comment Marked as spam Reply Man fuck that if I lived 2 minutes away from that shit I would be out there watching that shit go down with my own two eyes. Good comment Marked as spam Reply I think these guys had the right idea when they went in W/ ballistic jackets on and modified rifles, I don' think they should have split up that was their downfall. |
| www.wjactv.com/news/16728776/detail.html Two Die In Clearfield County Shooting Two Die After Clearfield Church Shooting POSTED: 1:26 pm EDT June 27, 2008 UPDATED: 12:01 am EDT June 28, 2008 CLEARFIELD, Pa. The victim, Jim Dixon, and his shooter, Norman Kauffman, died at Altoona Regional Medical Center. The shooting happened at the Trinity United Methodist Church in Clearfield. Pastor Bob Rupp said Dixon was retired and worked as the church's maintenance worker to keep busy. "I think, first of all, we have to begin to build relationships and heal the hurt that is there. Police said Jim Dixon was having an affair with Kauffman's wife. According to court documents, Kauffman shot Dixon Thursday morning in the church basement and then drove to the Moshannon State Forest. For eight hours, Kauffman led police through the forest's dense network of dirt roads, which stretch into Elk, Centre and Cameron counties. Norm Kauffman is a former employee at the Department of Conservation and Natural Resources office near Elliot State Park and called many of his former co-workers during the day. Because of that, police found Kauffman's location using his cell phone signal and GPS. Kauffman was located around 3:30 pm Thursday along Four Mile Road, just two miles away form where his car was found. He was immediately flown to Altoona Regional Hospital due to a self-inflicted gunshot wound. County officials said they were able to local Kauffman because of intense cooperation between the police and the DCNR. "He maintained contact with law enforcement throughout the day via his cell-phone and we were able to use triangulation cooperation throughout the cell phone companies and ultimately he called and reported his location and where he would be," said District Attorney William A Shaw. Rupp said he never expected something like this to happen in Clearfield, let alone his own church. |
| www.wsbtv.com/news/16639564/detail.html Man Shot, Killed Outside Cobb Church Shooting Outside Cobb Church Leaves 1 Dead Authorities Have No Suspect POSTED: 5:45 am EDT June 18, 2008 UPDATED: 12:05 pm EDT June 18, 2008 MARIETTA, Ga. The victim, identified as 17-year-old Joel Andresen of Marietta, was taken to Kennestone Hospital where he later died. It is unknown whether the victim had any affiliation with the church. Authorities with the Cobb County Police Department said the incident happened around 9:30 Tuesday at Powers Ferry Road and Fern Street. When authorities arrived on scene, they found Andresen lying in the parking lot. If you have any information about the shooting, youre urged to call Cobb County authorities. Looking for that perfect family vehicle to meet your everyday needs? Look no further because weve reviewed several of the newest models to keep your family on the go. your early warning neighborhood Your Early Warning Neighborhood Forecast service just got better! Now, you can get the latest information from Channel 2 Action News along with weather warnings and forecast delivered directly to your desktop. |
| www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080625/NEWS03/80625083/1005 The Oakland County Prosecutors Office issued a two-count felony warrant today for a 16-year-old Pontiac boy suspected of killing another boy last week. Advertisement James Cecial Willis is not in custody and police say his whereabouts are unknown. But the warrant charges him with open murder and felony firearms in connection with the death of a 14-year-old boy shot June 15 in Pontiac. The boy, whose name is not being released by police, was in town from Alabama visiting family. Police last week were looking for three teenage boys in connection with the shooting. Two of the boys came in to talk to detectives in recent days; Police say the 14-year-old boy was leaving a church at Cottage and Russell on June 15 when a fight broke out. Someone pulled a gun and started shooting, police say, hitting the boy twice in the head. |
| www.nbc5i.com/news/16659670/detail.html Advertise With Us news E-Mail News Alerts GO Get breaking news, daily headlines and more. One Dead After Police-Involved Shooting At Rockwall Church POSTED: 8:45 pm CDT June 19, 2008 UPDATED: 4:49 pm CDT June 20, 2008 ROCKWALL, Texas -- Police said they are investigating a fatal shooting involving an off-duty Garland police officer. Police said the incident occurred Thursday at about 6 pm at the Lake Pointe Baptist Church, located at 701 East Interstate 30 in Rockwall. Rockwall police said Hernandez was dressed in plainclothes and just happened to be at the church at the time. Police said witnesses reported the victim pulled a weapon and pointed it at the officer. The police officer then returned fire, striking the man several times. Investigators said they aren't yet certain what the argument was over, but they said they were quite certain the two men were strangers until Thursday night. |