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2008/6/26-30 [Reference/Military] UID:50383 Activity:nil
6/26    Details aren't out yet, but SCOTUS has ruled:
        Guns are an individual right.
        \_ Details are out: http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/heller-opinion
           In a nutshell: "you can have a reasonable loaded gun in your house
           \_ What is "reasonable loaded"? 8 rounds? 20? 100 round
              extender? How about one shell with crazy ass projectiles?
              \_ Yes, welcome to the next level of constitutional arguments.
              \_ phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range -t101
           without a trigger lock, so long as you meet reasonable licensing
           requirements."
           It's a remarkably restrained opinion from Scalia. More power to
           him.
               \- it was a 5-4 decision. the restraint may
                  say more about "the rule of five"
                  [BRENNAN J.: "if you get 5, you rule"]
                  than ASCALIA's "moderation". but yeah, i
                  agree there were various narrowing
                  options ... although maybe that's to keep
                  the guns away from the scary people. --psb
           \_ that's fine. i can have my handgun without a trigger lock
              and my 50 BMG with a trigger lock. kewl
           \_ Given how relatively restrained it is, I'm shocked there are 4
              dissenting justices. -emarkp
              \_ how many shells do you put in your loaded gun?
                 \_ In CA I'm only allowed a 10-round magazine. -emarkp
              \_ I will reserve judgment on this until I read the dissenting
                 opinions. Perhaps you should do the same.
                 \_ Okay, read: Breyer's arguing from a different interpreta-
                    tion of 2ndA; in the context of his reading, his arguments
                    hold. In light of the various issues at hand, it's not
                    that shocking to me that there would be 4 dissenting
                    Justices; this is a complicated issue and deserves scrutiny
                    and discussion.
        \_ Of course individuals have a Constitutional right to firearms as
           both a check against govt tyranny and for self-protection.  Legal
           disputes are about where you can carry what level of lethal
           firepower.
           - On one extreme you can only have a single shotgun in the home with
             child locks within a locked safe and for which you need to
             re-permit every year
           - On the other extreme any 21-year-old can openly carry one fully
             automatic weapon with matching handgun and clip extender as long
             as the safeties are always engaged.  Firearms must be secured
             in a locked gun rack in your cube when you're away, of course.
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