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6/2 Obama is willing to ditch his own church in order to win the election.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama
How faithful.
\_ After hanging out with the Klan for 20 years, he decides it's
politically expedient to leave.
\_ Yeah, the Klan. That's right. What an apt analogy. I mean
it's SO obvious.
\_ You're right. It's just as racist, but doesn't physically harm
people. ^the Klan^his co-racists
\_ The crazy is strong in this one.
\_ Didn't we beat this horse a few day ago?
\_ Give it up, you have already lost the election. Prepare yourself
for at least four years and probably eight years of being in the
\_ Obama is going to implode, trust me.
\_ Why should I trust you? What other predictions have you made
that were on the mark?
\_ Well, it looks to me like he's already imploding. Obama!
The only guy who could lose to the R's in '08! -!pp
\_ What the hell are you talking about? Are you the
person who thinks Obama wants to rape all the white
wimmin?
\_ I don't remember THAT post on the motd. -pp
\_ http://www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm
Imploding.
\_ That's a very strange def of imploding |
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| news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080601/ap_on_el_pr/obama AP Obama quits Chicago church steeped in controversy By TOM RAUM, Associated Press Writer Sun Jun 1, 2:37 PM ET ABERDEEN, SD - Barack Obama said Saturday he has resigned his 20-year membership in the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago "with some sadness" in the aftermath of inflammatory remarks by his longtime pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and more recent fiery remarks at the church by a visiting priest. and it is one I make with some sadness," Obama said at a news conference after campaign officials released a letter of resignation he sent to the church on Friday. "I'm not denouncing the church and I'm not interested in people who want me to denounce the church," he said, adding that the new pastor at Trinity and "the church have been suffering from the attention my campaign has focused on them." Obama said he and his wife have been discussing the issue since Wright's appearance at the National Press Club in Washington last month, which reignited the furor over remarks Wright had made in various sermons at the church. "I suspect we'll find another church home for our family," Obama said. "It's clear that now that I'm a candidate for president, every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity, including guest pastors, the remarks will imputed to me even if they totally conflict with my long-held views, statements and principles," he said. "I have no idea how it will impact my presidential campaign but I know it was the right thing to do for me and my family," he said. "This was a pretty personal decision and I was not trying to make political theater out of it," he added. Trinity released a statement Saturday night saying: "Though we are saddened by the news, we understand that it is a personal decision. We will continue to lift them in prayer and wish them the best as former members of our Trinity community." For months, Obama has been hamstrung by the rhetoric of Wright, whose sermons blaming US policies for the Sept. Initially, Obama said he disagreed with Wright but portrayed him as a family member he couldn't disown. The preacher had officiated at Obama's wedding, baptized his two daughters and been his spiritual mentor for some 20 years. But six weeks after Obama's well-received speech on race, Wright claimed at the Press Club appearance that the US government was capable of planting AIDS in the black community, praised Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan and suggested that Obama was acting like a politician by putting his pastor at arm's length while privately agreeing with him. The next day, Obama denounced Wright's comments as "divisive and destructive." Remarks by Wright inflamed racial tensions and posed an unwanted problem for Obama, front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, as he sought to wrap up the party's nod. More recently, racially charged remarks from the same pulpit by another pastor, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, kept the controversy alive and proved the latest thorn in Obama's side. As a guest speaker at Obama's church, Pfleger mocked Obama rival Hillary Rodham Clinton. Although Obama condemned comments by both Wright and Pfleger, the controversy persisted. Obama made clear he wasn't happy with Pfleger's comments -- in which the Catholic priest pretended he was Clinton crying over "a black man stealing my show" -- and said he was "deeply disappointed in Father Pfleger's divisive, backward-looking rhetoric, which doesn't reflect the country I see or the desire of people across America to come together in common cause." Pfleger issued an apology, saying he was sorry if his comments offended Clinton or anyone else. The timing of Obama's decision broke late Saturday, while most of the political attention was focused on the Democratic National Committee's struggle to seat delegates from Florida and Michigan. Republican John McCain also has had his woes with religious leaders. Earlier this month, McCain rejected endorsements from two influential but controversial televangelists, saying there is no place for their incendiary criticisms of other faiths. McCain spurned the months-old endorsement of Texas preacher John Hagee after an audio recording surfaced in which the preacher said God sent Adolf Hitler to help Jews reach the promised land. He later repudiated the support of Rod Parsley, an Ohio preacher who has sharply criticized Islam and called the religion inherently violent. "This was one I didn't see coming," Obama said Saturday when he asked if he had anticipated the firestorm that would erupt over his relationship with Wright. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. |
| www.pollingreport.com/wh08gen.htm McCain Obama Nader Barr Other/Unsure % % % % % 5/15-18/08 37 47 4 3 10 4/10-12/08 42 44 3 2 9 . McCain Clinton Nader Barr Other/Unsure % % % % % 5/15-18/08 40 41 4 3 12 4/10-12/08 45 39 3 2 12 Investor's Business Daily/TIPP poll conducted by TechnoMetrica Market Intelligence. "If the 2008 election for United States president were held today and the following were candidates for whom would you vote? McCain Obama Unsure % % % 5/12-18/08 37 48 15 4/1-6/08 44 44 12 . McCain Clinton Unsure % % % 5/12-18/08 39 44 17 4/1-6/08 45 38 17 . McCain/ Rice Obama/ Clinton Unsure % % % 5/12-18/08 40 47 13 . McCain/ Romney Obama/ Clinton Unsure % % % 5/12-18/08 39 49 12 . McCain/ Pawlenty Obama/ Clinton Unsure % % % 5/12-18/08 37 49 14 Democracy Corps Poll conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research . "I know it is a long way off, but thinking about the election for president in November, if the election were held today, for whom would you vote: the Democratic candidate or the Republican candidate?" "Now let me ask you again about your vote for president, but with candidate names. "Now, even though the 2008 elections are a long way off: If the election for president were being held today, and you had to make a choice, would you be voting for the Republican candidate or the Democrat candidate?" If unsure: "And which party's candidate do you lean toward at this time?" Republican Democrat Unsure % % % 5/11-14/08 41 49 10 12/9-12/07 41 47 12 7/15-18/07 38 49 14 . If unsure: "And which candidate do you lean toward slightly?" McCain Obama Unsure % % % 5/11-14/08 47 49 5 1/8-11/07 51 39 10 . McCain Clinton Unsure % % % 5/11-14/08 51 43 6 1/8-11/07 53 43 4 Quinnipiac University Poll. or McCain, or would you vote for a candidate from some other party?" McCain Obama Other Unsure % % % % 5/1-8/08 40 46 5 9 2/21-25/08 44 42 5 9 1/18-22/08 42 41 5 12 10/19-22/07 36 44 7 13 6/7-10/07 35 47 10 8 4/5-9/07 40 48 5 7 . McCain Clinton Other Unsure % % % % 5/1-8/08 38 47 4 11 2/21-25/08 46 40 5 9 1/18-22/08 42 46 5 7 10/19-22/07 38 48 6 8 6/7-10/07 45 41 9 5 4/5-9/07 42 45 10 3 12/8-11/06 50 36 10 4 Ipsos Public Affairs poll. MoE 31 4/23-27/08 and earlier: Associated Press/Ipsos Poll. " Now thinking about the next election for president in 2008, if the election for US president were held today, would you be voting for the Democratic candidate or the Republican candidate?" McCain Obama Unsure % % % 4/30 - 5/3/08 43 47 10 3/28-31/08 46 44 10 2/14-17/08 40 48 12 1/10-12/08 42 43 14 5/16-20/07 39 42 19 4/26-30/07 37 48 15 1/11-14/07 43 38 20 11/8-12/06 39 35 26 . McCain Clinton Unsure % % % 4/30 - 5/3/08 43 46 11 3/28-31/08 50 41 10 2/14-17/08 48 40 12 1/10-12/08 48 45 8 5/16-20/07 43 45 12 4/26-30/07 45 45 11 1/11-14/07 48 39 12 11/8-12/06 45 40 15 7/20-23/06 49 37 15 6/21-25/06 50 40 11 5/18-21/06 49 38 13 2/16-19/06 50 40 11 1/12-15/06 52 36 12 11/11-15/05 52 39 9 . McCain Obama Nader Unsure % % % % 4/30 - 5/3/08 40 45 5 9 3/28-31/08 45 41 3 11 . McCain Clinton Nader Unsure % % % % 4/30 - 5/3/08 42 44 4 10 3/28-31/08 46 39 5 10 CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. "Putting aside for a moment the question of who each party's nominee might be, what is your preference for the outcome of the 2008 presidential election -- that a Democrat be elected president or that a Republican be elected president?" "Suppose that neither Clinton nor Obama is able to secure the Democratic nomination and the party turns to Al Gore as its presidential candidate. If the presidential election were being held TODAY and you HAD TO CHOOSE between Al Gore, the Democrat, and John McCain, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for?" If other/unsure: "As of TODAY, do you LEAN more toward Gore, the Democrat, or McCain, the Republican?" McCain Obama Nader Other/Unsure % % % % 3/13-14/08 44 39 5 11 . McCain Clinton Nader Other/Unsure % % % % 3/13-14/08 45 39 6 11 Diageo/Hotline Poll conducted by Financial Dynamics. McCain Obama Bloomberg Unsure % % % % 2/14-17/08 39 44 6 11 . McCain Clinton Bloomberg Unsure % % % % 2/14-17/08 40 42 6 11 . Huckabee Obama Bloomberg Unsure % % % % 2/14-17/08 33 47 8 12 . Huckabee Clinton Bloomberg Unsure % % % % 2/14-17/08 35 45 7 12 Time Poll conducted by abt SRBI. |