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5/29    http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9609.html
        \_ Nice to see the Swiftboat Brigade knocked back into the festering
           swamp they belong in.
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Obama's Great Uncle that liberated a sub-section of Buchenwald, not an uncle at Auschwitz. But if sources are correct and unless there's some arcane military history in his favor, Obama still has a problem. the 89th Infantry Division of World War II, the division in which Obama's great uncle served and helped liberate the Ohrdruf satellite of the Buchenwald concentration camp. com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:14 AM Subject: Any Record Of Charles W Payne? Mr Kitchell, As you may have heard by now, Barack Obama has claimed that his great uncle Charlie Payne was a member of the 89th Div that liberated Buchenwald. According to records his full name is either Charles W Payne or Charles T Payne (most likely the former), and he was born in 1924 -- and he is still alive today. He most likely was from Kansas at the time of enlistment. com PS - If you go to my website, you will see that I was probably the first to note the error in Mr Obama's first claims about his "uncle." Bush plans Iran air strike by August' "The George W Bush administration plans to launch an air strike against Iran within the next two months, an informed source tells Asia Times Online, echoing other reports that have surfaced in the media in the United States recently. Two key US senators briefed on the attack planned to go public with their opposition to the move, according to the source, but their projected New York Times op-ed piece has yet to appear." Just show how stupid and unconnected with the military these jackasses are. Cheap portable cameras were just coming onto the market thanks to Kodak and many soldiers took them along. This is nothing different than any other war - right down to the current conflict which is full of GI photos being snapped onto digital cameras and cellphones. the 89th division are now cult-aid drinking Obamabots, too! Maybe Obama's great uncle did liberate Buchenwald, but now Obama is raising the spectre of sending the FL & MI delegations there instead of Denver. Like this: "However one commentor at another site has found an army name match for Payne but the birth year is off by a few and it is from a DC database rather than the Kansas history." I have searched the NARAL report using every possible combination. And none of them turn up anyone who fits the Obama great uncle. Granted the enlistment records are said to be missing as much as 13% of the inductees, due to key punch card malfunctions. But what are the odds that Obama's great uncle's records would be missing? Um, the odds you just fucking stated in the previous sentence, moron? Apparently the guys there liked the taste so much, they asked for some more. Also, the intrepid S&L correspondant dispatched to bravely write an email to a veteran of a war that ended half a century ago, is named Cigarskunk. Their argument now, verification by someone who was there at the time isn't sufficient since there is no proof provided. Also, the interwebs catalog of names for people born in 1924 shows a different middle initial. Got to wonder whether wingnuts are born without shame, or get it removed like a castrati's balls. I have the inkling of an inkling that most people are tired of these fuckers, and that they'll wake up on November 5th feeling very, very alone. But I must try to prevent optimism getting the better of me. these civilian heroes of the right who've sat on their asses supporting an administration that engineered its own concentration camps and secret prisons for torture. Naturally the wingnuts couldn't leave well enough alone and just had to respond to the reply cuz it hurt their widdle feewings. Apparently, when directed, the wingnuts are unable to crawl back under the rock they came from. To that end, they have now moved on to harassing WWII veterans to find out the truth, damn it! Unfortunately for the wingnuts, the WWII veterans have fought tougher battles than The Battle of Dunkin Donuts, and don't suffer fools gladly. The 101st Fighting Hellmice, on the other hand, have successfully forced Dunkin Donuts to pull an ad featuring Rachel Ray in a scarf. You'd think the 89th would bow to the superior accomplishments of the wingnut overlords. This commenter (close to the bottom of the thread) is certain to blow the gaskets of all who ridicule and try to diminish Payne's service. J Straight May 29th, 2008 at 12:02 am On the matter of the military service of Charlie Payne, the great-uncle of Barack Obama: His full name is Charles Thomas Payne and he IS the uncle (the term "uncle" has in fact been used even for great-uncles in that family) who served in the Army in the 89th Infantry during WW II and suffered severe enough PTSD that, after coming back from the war, he isolated himself at home for some time. Charles recovered, attended college and to this day is an active, mentally vital, 83 year-old resident of Chicago. This information was obtained tonight from a phone conversation with members of the Payne family and is being posted to correct the mis-information that is swirling around the internet. CORRECT info: 1 Charles' middle initial is "T", not "W"; Charles is the second of FOUR Payne siblings: 1 Madelyn Lee 2 Charles Thomas 3 Margaret Arlene 4 Jon Virgil, (born 1937, which is why there is no listing for him in the 1930 Census of Augusta City, Butler County, Kansas. This census has been the only source offered for "Payne sibling info" oin all of the genealogical sites cited by those interested in this story. I suspect that the listing for Charles E Payne of Kansas is in fact the record for Charles Thomas Payne. That type of error is frequent in census records and in military records where the info is provided orally: Payne, Charles E Inducted 9 June 1943, Army 37531353 Registered, order # V11125 Augusta, Butler Co. This commenter (close to the bottom of the thread) is certain to blow the gaskets of all who ridicule and try to diminish Payne's service. J Straight May 29th, 2008 at 12:02 am On the matter of the military service of Charlie Payne, the great-uncle of Barack Obama: His full name is Charles Thomas Payne and he IS the uncle (the term "uncle" has in fact been used even for great-uncles in that family) who served in the Army in the 89th Infantry during WW II and suffered severe enough PTSD that, after coming back from the war, he isolated himself at home for some time. Charles recovered, attended college and to this day is an active, mentally vital, 83 year-old resident of Chicago. This information was obtained tonight from a phone conversation with members of the Payne family and is being posted to correct the mis-information that is swirling around the internet. CORRECT info: 1 Charles' middle initial is "T", not "W"; Charles is the second of FOUR Payne siblings: 1 Madelyn Lee 2 Charles Thomas 3 Margaret Arlene 4 Jon Virgil, (born 1937, which is why there is no listing for him in the 1930 Census of Augusta City, Butler County, Kansas. This census has been the only source offered for "Payne sibling info" oin all of the genealogical sites cited by those interested in this story. I suspect that the listing for Charles E Payne of Kansas is in fact the record for Charles Thomas Payne. That type of error is frequent in census records and in military records where the info is provided orally: Payne, Charles E Inducted 9 June 1943, Army 37531353 Registered, order # V11125 Augusta, Butler Co. I bet dollars to donuts some of these schmucks will show up on the old man's doorstep haranguing him for proof. 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Concerning the service of Mr Charles Payne: CT Payne was a soldier in the 89th Infantry Division. He served in the 355th Infantry Regiment, Company K The 355th Infantry Regiment was the unit to liberate Ohrdruf. For those who seek to minimize the horrors of Ohrdruf since it was a 'work' camp and not a 'death' camp, we have but one word: shame. Ironically, this argument has been made to us time and time again by various Holocaust-deniers and other pro-Nazi groups. We will let the testimony of survivors and veterans speak for themselves. It has been recorded that in Ordruf itself the last days were a slaughterhouse. At every turn went on the destruction of the remaining inmates. Indiscriminant criminal behavior (like the murderers of Oklahoma City some days ago). Some days before the first Americans appeared at the gates of Ordruf, the last retreating Nazi guards managed to execute with hand pistols, literally emptying their last bullets on whomever they encountered leaving them bleeding to death as testified by an American of the 37th Tank Battalion Medical section, 10 am April 4, 1945. Today I'm privileged thanks to G-d and you gallant fighting men. I'm here to reminisce, and reflect, and experience instant recollections of those moments. Those horrible scenes and that special instance when an Allied soldier outstretched his arm to help me up became my re-entrance, my being re-invited into humanity and restoring my inalienable right to a dignified existence as a human being and as a Jew. Something, which was denied me from September 1939 to the day of liberation in 1945. I had no right to live and survived, out of 80 members of my family, the infernal ordeal of Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Ordruf, and its satellite camp Crawinkle and finally Theresinstadt Ghetto-Concentration Camp. Rabbi Murray Kohn This website has been created to honor the service of the 89th Infantry Division during the Second World War. The 89th, known as the Rolling W, served with distinction during combat operations in Europe from March-May, 1945. This website was created by 89th veteran Raymond E Kitchell and his son Mark R Kitchell. We are grateful to the contributions of histories, stories and pictures from numerous 89th Infantry veterans and their families, and from the 89th Infantry Division Society.